Hi again. Figured I was about to ignore some information myself, so thought I'd post it, too. This is regarding the Charles I found as a baby on the 1860 census w/father Vincent. I said I sort of eliminated this Charles per having found him again in 1870 w/father, alive and age 10. I was thinking this was not our Charles as our Charles was at the same time on the 1870 Crosby, Hamilton co, OH census. But it dawned on me I should not just eliminate this family, because you never know. So I went back, came across something interesting. At least, I think it's interesting. So, I'll post about it. 1860 St Clair twp, 1st Ward, N. Hamilton, Butler co, OH, enumerated 16 Jun 1860: 458 436 Vincent Dill, 24, M, Laborer, b OH Sarah, 22, F, b OH Margaret A, 4, F, b OH John J., 3, M, b OH Charles, 6/12, M, b OH William, 6/12, M, b OH (w/Charles' & Wm's names it says "twins.") Ok, this is the Charles I found as a baby, I think the only one I found for Hamilton/Butler counties in Ohio with the closest age (I think I remember right). I followed the family into 1870: 1870 Clay, Bartholomew co, Indiana, enumerated 14 Jul 1870: 149 144 Vincent Dill, 29, M, W, Farm Labour, b OH Matelda/Matilda, 18, F, W, Keeping house, b IN John, 13, M, W, at home, b IN Charles, 10, M, W, at home, b OH Wm, 10, M, W, at home, b OH Joseph, 0/12 or 6/12, M, W, b IN I'm not worried about it saying John was b in IN, nor about Vincent's age showing as it is. Some persons lied about their ages to spouses. Some did not even discuss it. Matilda might have been guessing his age. Who knows? But this was the only Dill family I found w/a Vincent at the head and the 3 boys' names right, w/ages pretty right. So, I figure first wife died & Vincent remarried this younger Matilda, then had another baby. It dawned on me that even though Charles here is 10 yrs old and our for-sure Charles was 10 same year living with Ann and Margaret Dill in a different county and state, you never know for sure. Sometimes people died & had to quickly go live with relatives, so... I checked enumeration dates. Vincent's family was enumerated 14 Jul 1870 in IN. Charles with Ann and Margaret were enumerated on 29 Jun 1870 in OH. So, unlikely it's the same Charles but I realized I had not compared the enumeration dates earlier. Anyway, I thought I'd look for Vincent/Matilda again in the 1880 census. I did not find Vincent, though. Now I did not do a real dig-dig type search but still -- it looks like Vincent might have been dead sometime after that 1870 census. I found other Vincents in the US but w/different birthyears, a bit farther removed that I like. I found some Matildas, some in OH, but rather farther-off birthyears, too (like Matilda Dill living in Hamilton co but b ca 1841 rather than 1852 when I think the one w/Vincent was born). Anyway... I did not search for Vincent's children, as that would take a while. I just thought it was interesting, my not finding Vincent w/family right off. Just figured I should post this thru since Vincent Dill started off right near where our Charles Dill w/Ann and Margaret were enumerated in 1870. Butler county and Hamilton county are right next door to each other. Hamilton in Butler county is at the bottom of the county maybe 5-10 miles from Hamilton county limits. I did not see Crosby on my Ohio atlas, but Groesbeck (that's the post office Ann, Charles and Margaret Dill were listed as served by on that 1870 Crosby, Hamilton co, OH census) is about mid-left in Hamilton county. If I'm judging right, there are only about maybe 15 miles between Groesbeck in H co and Hamilton in B county. I'm in Texas, looking at my 2003-definitely-needing-to-be-replaced-atlas. Y'all in Ohio, is that right -- the distance I think? Anyway, the Dill families in the 2 counties were not that far apart, tho living there different years. So, they could have been related. Figured I'd better add this, just in case... Pavla Chandler, TX
The Charles you found is from my side of the Dill's, Vincent Dill was my ggrandfather his father was James born in Del. to Vincent and Esther Dill, James had a brother Solomon who died in Miami Co. Ohio, James and his family settled in Bartholomew Co. In. Vincent Dill was married 4 times #1 Sarah Jane Willis, #2 Adaline Purvis, # 3 Matilda ??, # 4 Louisa Rebecca Stephens John J. Dill was my grandfather. Tom Dill Colorado Springs. Co. CHANDLERPRIME@wmconnect.com wrote: Hi again. Figured I was about to ignore some information myself, so thought I'd post it, too. This is regarding the Charles I found as a baby on the 1860 census w/father Vincent. I said I sort of eliminated this Charles per having found him again in 1870 w/father, alive and age 10. I was thinking this was not our Charles as our Charles was at the same time on the 1870 Crosby, Hamilton co, OH census. But it dawned on me I should not just eliminate this family, because you never know. So I went back, came across something interesting. At least, I think it's interesting. So, I'll post about it. 1860 St Clair twp, 1st Ward, N. Hamilton, Butler co, OH, enumerated 16 Jun 1860: 458 436 Vincent Dill, 24, M, Laborer, b OH Sarah, 22, F, b OH Margaret A, 4, F, b OH John J., 3, M, b OH Charles, 6/12, M, b OH William, 6/12, M, b OH (w/Charles' & Wm's names it says "twins.") Ok, this is the Charles I found as a baby, I think the only one I found for Hamilton/Butler counties in Ohio with the closest age (I think I remember right). I followed the family into 1870: 1870 Clay, Bartholomew co, Indiana, enumerated 14 Jul 1870: 149 144 Vincent Dill, 29, M, W, Farm Labour, b OH Matelda/Matilda, 18, F, W, Keeping house, b IN John, 13, M, W, at home, b IN Charles, 10, M, W, at home, b OH Wm, 10, M, W, at home, b OH Joseph, 0/12 or 6/12, M, W, b IN I'm not worried about it saying John was b in IN, nor about Vincent's age showing as it is. Some persons lied about their ages to spouses. Some did not even discuss it. Matilda might have been guessing his age. Who knows? But this was the only Dill family I found w/a Vincent at the head and the 3 boys' names right, w/ages pretty right. So, I figure first wife died & Vincent remarried this younger Matilda, then had another baby. It dawned on me that even though Charles here is 10 yrs old and our for-sure Charles was 10 same year living with Ann and Margaret Dill in a different county and state, you never know for sure. Sometimes people died & had to quickly go live with relatives, so... I checked enumeration dates. Vincent's family was enumerated 14 Jul 1870 in IN. Charles with Ann and Margaret were enumerated on 29 Jun 1870 in OH. So, unlikely it's the same Charles but I realized I had not compared the enumeration dates earlier. Anyway, I thought I'd look for Vincent/Matilda again in the 1880 census. I did not find Vincent, though. Now I did not do a real dig-dig type search but still -- it looks like Vincent might have been dead sometime after that 1870 census. I found other Vincents in the US but w/different birthyears, a bit farther removed that I like. I found some Matildas, some in OH, but rather farther-off birthyears, too (like Matilda Dill living in Hamilton co but b ca 1841 rather than 1852 when I think the one w/Vincent was born). Anyway... I did not search for Vincent's children, as that would take a while. I just thought it was interesting, my not finding Vincent w/family right off. Just figured I should post this thru since Vincent Dill started off right near where our Charles Dill w/Ann and Margaret were enumerated in 1870. Butler county and Hamilton county are right next door to each other. Hamilton in Butler county is at the bottom of the county maybe 5-10 miles from Hamilton county limits. I did not see Crosby on my Ohio atlas, but Groesbeck (that's the post office Ann, Charles and Margaret Dill were listed as served by on that 1870 Crosby, Hamilton co, OH census) is about mid-left in Hamilton county. If I'm judging right, there are only about maybe 15 miles between Groesbeck in H co and Hamilton in B county. I'm in Texas, looking at my 2003-definitely-needing-to-be-replaced-atlas. Y'all in Ohio, is that right -- the distance I think? Anyway, the Dill families in the 2 counties were not that far apart, tho living there different years. So, they could have been related. Figured I'd better add this, just in case... Pavla Chandler, TX ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE: Send a message to: OHBUTLER-L-request@rootsweb.com or OHBUTLER-D-request@rootsweb.com Put SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE (whichever you want to do) --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and well bind it!
Vincent Dill is listed in the 1880 census as Dill Vinson and all the children were listed with the surname Vinson including his mother Hesther, Vincent died 1893 and is buried in City Cemetery, Bartholomew County, Columbus, Indiana. Tom Dill CHANDLERPRIME@wmconnect.com wrote: Hi again. Figured I was about to ignore some information myself, so thought I'd post it, too. This is regarding the Charles I found as a baby on the 1860 census w/father Vincent. I said I sort of eliminated this Charles per having found him again in 1870 w/father, alive and age 10. I was thinking this was not our Charles as our Charles was at the same time on the 1870 Crosby, Hamilton co, OH census. But it dawned on me I should not just eliminate this family, because you never know. So I went back, came across something interesting. At least, I think it's interesting. So, I'll post about it. 1860 St Clair twp, 1st Ward, N. Hamilton, Butler co, OH, enumerated 16 Jun 1860: 458 436 Vincent Dill, 24, M, Laborer, b OH Sarah, 22, F, b OH Margaret A, 4, F, b OH John J., 3, M, b OH Charles, 6/12, M, b OH William, 6/12, M, b OH (w/Charles' & Wm's names it says "twins.") Ok, this is the Charles I found as a baby, I think the only one I found for Hamilton/Butler counties in Ohio with the closest age (I think I remember right). I followed the family into 1870: 1870 Clay, Bartholomew co, Indiana, enumerated 14 Jul 1870: 149 144 Vincent Dill, 29, M, W, Farm Labour, b OH Matelda/Matilda, 18, F, W, Keeping house, b IN John, 13, M, W, at home, b IN Charles, 10, M, W, at home, b OH Wm, 10, M, W, at home, b OH Joseph, 0/12 or 6/12, M, W, b IN I'm not worried about it saying John was b in IN, nor about Vincent's age showing as it is. Some persons lied about their ages to spouses. Some did not even discuss it. Matilda might have been guessing his age. Who knows? But this was the only Dill family I found w/a Vincent at the head and the 3 boys' names right, w/ages pretty right. So, I figure first wife died & Vincent remarried this younger Matilda, then had another baby. It dawned on me that even though Charles here is 10 yrs old and our for-sure Charles was 10 same year living with Ann and Margaret Dill in a different county and state, you never know for sure. Sometimes people died & had to quickly go live with relatives, so... I checked enumeration dates. Vincent's family was enumerated 14 Jul 1870 in IN. Charles with Ann and Margaret were enumerated on 29 Jun 1870 in OH. So, unlikely it's the same Charles but I realized I had not compared the enumeration dates earlier. Anyway, I thought I'd look for Vincent/Matilda again in the 1880 census. I did not find Vincent, though. Now I did not do a real dig-dig type search but still -- it looks like Vincent might have been dead sometime after that 1870 census. I found other Vincents in the US but w/different birthyears, a bit farther removed that I like. I found some Matildas, some in OH, but rather farther-off birthyears, too (like Matilda Dill living in Hamilton co but b ca 1841 rather than 1852 when I think the one w/Vincent was born). Anyway... I did not search for Vincent's children, as that would take a while. I just thought it was interesting, my not finding Vincent w/family right off. Just figured I should post this thru since Vincent Dill started off right near where our Charles Dill w/Ann and Margaret were enumerated in 1870. Butler county and Hamilton county are right next door to each other. Hamilton in Butler county is at the bottom of the county maybe 5-10 miles from Hamilton county limits. I did not see Crosby on my Ohio atlas, but Groesbeck (that's the post office Ann, Charles and Margaret Dill were listed as served by on that 1870 Crosby, Hamilton co, OH census) is about mid-left in Hamilton county. If I'm judging right, there are only about maybe 15 miles between Groesbeck in H co and Hamilton in B county. I'm in Texas, looking at my 2003-definitely-needing-to-be-replaced-atlas. Y'all in Ohio, is that right -- the distance I think? Anyway, the Dill families in the 2 counties were not that far apart, tho living there different years. So, they could have been related. Figured I'd better add this, just in case... Pavla Chandler, TX ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE: Send a message to: OHBUTLER-L-request@rootsweb.com or OHBUTLER-D-request@rootsweb.com Put SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE (whichever you want to do) --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and well bind it!