Dear Ann, I have forwarded your email on to Gale Wallen in Illinois, as she and I together have been trying to figure out these Dills for three years. I have asked her to cc: me on whatever she sends to you, and if you don't mind, please cc: me on whatever you send to her. I will get back to you tomorrow night on what information I know and believe me, Gale and I both appreciate your getting involved in trying to solve this family mystery. My best to you, Barbara (nee Dill) Noble in Indiana Ann Trimmer <ann@trimmer.net> wrote: I've been digging in the Dills too and in 1850 and 1860 things are murky at best. The leap from 1900, where the Charles Dill we've been following is listed as having been born in July 1861, to the 1880 is really not giving us any proof this is the right Charles. That Ann Dill in 1880 in Crosby Twp, Hamilton Co, at 68, has Ann 68 Matthew 41 son(ie born abt 1839), Mary 38 dau ie b. abt 1842, Charles 20, son In the 1870 still in Crosby Twp, Hamilton Co You get Ann 58, Charles 10, son Margaret 33 dau(ie b. abt 1837). In 1860 and things are less clear. If you look for Ann, who seems to have been born about 1812, judging from the 1880 and 1870, then the only one who comes close in age , is 1860 MillCreek Twp, Hamilton Co Sarah Ann Dill 46 b abt 1814. Salinus 16 Elizabeth J 11 Mary 83 On this same page is Richard Dill 42 Ann 37, b. abt 1823 Harriet 13 Edmund W 10 Elizabeth J 9 Elvira 5 Also on this page is the family of James Dill. None of the known children, Margaret, Matthew or Mary show up here, although they could have left home. If you search for Charles (who according to the 1900 wasn't born, you run into Vincent's family and the 6 month old Charles, the twin. in St Clair Tpw, 2st Ward, Hamilton, Butler Co So I tried in 1850 for Ann and/or, the older siblings living with the Charles and Ann in the 1870 and 80 (Margaret b 1837, Matthew b. 1839 and Mary b. 1842.) Well 2 different Ann Dills show up The one is 1850 Green Twp, Hamilton Co John D Dill. 44 Ann 39 Cort? A 15 Margt 13 Mathew 11 Elias F 7 ok, both Margaret and Matthew are the right age BUT where is Mary? She should be 8! The other Ann Dills in 1850 are on the same page but 10 yrs apart. In Millcreek Twp, Hamilton Co Samuel Dill 40 Ann 36 Selanus 6 Elizabeth 2 Mary 73 and next door Richard Dill 34 Ann 26 Harriet 4 Edmund 3 Mary 1 and a whole list of laborers,living with them There are clearly the same 2 families in the 1850 and the 1860, but it sure isn't clear to me, which of these might be the Ann with a Charles, seen in 1870 and 1880. How can it be the Ann married to John D, when Mary is missing? The Charles Dill we've been following was born in July 1861 from the 1900 census. SO, assuming that is right, he can't be the twin born to Vincent in 1860. Maybe I've worn out, but I keep wondering how we know the Charles in 1900 is the one in 1880 and just which of the 1850 and 1860 Ann's match with 1870 and 1880. Ann ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== Butler County American History & Genealogy Project http://www.usgennet.org/usa/oh/county/butler Barbara