Oh yes, I have been doing genealogy for over 15 years and working on this family of mine. I have Ancestry.com and many things at home but the wall is there and I know the answers are there also in those files. This is one tough nut to crack but I can't give up. My dream is to find who the family of my great grandfather Francis Marion EDDY is. He lived from 1890 to 1906 when he died in Cincinnati. Death cert gives no information and spells his name wrong because the hospital personnel has filled it out not family. He appears on no census but he is in the Cincinnati directories. I have covered just about all I can cover on him and I know the answers to him and his son Isaac lie in those nursing home records that I can't get. Cindy -----Original Message----- From: Lisa Siders [mailto:jsiders@ameritech.net] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 1:52 PM To: OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [OHBUTLER-L] Help with Nursing Home Question Cindy, Very sorry in all your lose. But please do not give up. Because you will get answers. Do you have a library card from the library from your local library, to where you have free access to census and other ways to help in your research? I use mine a lot and have really got answers that way. Do Not Give Up Lisa Cindy Crawford <clcrawford@fuse.net> wrote: Hi Lisa First, my mother died of breast cancer, my little sister was 46 and she died of ovarian cancer and my brother was 51 and he died of pancreatic cancer. My sister had lost her only daughter who was 15 just two years before she died, her daughter died in a car accident in Brookville, Indiana first time she had ever been allowed to ride with anyone other than family and they were going 1 mile to sell year book ads and the little driver and my niece were killed instantly when she pulled out in front of a semi truck. The little girl in the front passenger seat was barely injured. My sister went down hill and ended up with ovarian cancer. We worked on this Alena problem before she died...I kind of gave up because of losing my family but now I still want to find their proper place in my life just as my sister and my mom use to do. We had such fun tracking our family and when we found out about Alena we gave it our all until the tragedies of losing one family member after the other. Anyway, I made the first call to the probate office in Butler County. The man said it is almost impossible to get information from a nursing home because of the medical information that would be in the file. He said I might get a civil action to allow me to look at them. I don't want medical..I want names and dates. I think I may have found a connection to this great Aunt as her father (my great grandfather) is buried in Cincinnati in an unmarked grave in the Wesleyan Cemetery, cemetery with so many problems and on the news a lot. We knew so little of him and now I think I may have found his parents and I just know the answer I need will be in Alena's records in the nursing home. I am going to go there tomorrow in hopes someone will listen to me. I wouldn't care if they go through them page by page while I sit across the room and give me names and dates. I have seen the file, it is HUGH and I just know there will be answers to her parents and grandparents and siblings that is all I want from this. -----Original Message----- From: Lisa Siders [mailto:jsiders@ameritech.net] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 1:14 PM To: OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [OHBUTLER-L] Help with Nursing Home Question Cindy, Sorry about the death of your mother and sister. May I ask what type of cancer they had. Cindy here is the other BRICKWALL "PRIVACY ACT", but when you call the Probate Court, just ask them you have a problem in getting information about your G Aunt and explain the problem and then ask them where to direct you for the answer to your guestion. I know you'll need proper affidavit. But surely there will be someone to direct you to where ever you should go. Course sometimes you get a hold of someone who does not care meaning does not know where to send people, there ashamed of not knowing or willing to help you period. Please do not get discouraged, Judges and attorinies do not take the time to help with the genealogical questions. But proper identification and correct paper work should beable to get you some answers. Again please let me know what you have found out, this is a good learning tool for other genealogists. Lisa Cindy Crawford wrote: Hello List Thanks for the replies. I did use an attorney several years ago to write them a letter. They never even answered. I just don't understand why they won't help. Almost feel like something is being hid. I just know my answers are in there. It kills me because my mom and my sister went with me to the nursing home and since then I lost my mom, and my sister and a brother within 6 weeks of each other to cancer. There is no one left of this family except myself and a couple of cousins who are also interested. I will try the Probate office in Butler County..that sounds like a good idea. Like I said, I did talk to a Judge of Butler years ago and he told me that the home being Private they could give me the information. Cindy -----Original Message----- From: Kathleen Dewey [mailto:kdewey@sbceo.org] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 12:41 PM To: OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER-L] Help with Nursing Home Question I am really touched by this. I certanly pray something shakes out for you. Perhaps you could sign a release? One of the things they must be concerned about is liability. Maybe try a local Legal Attorney Service that could direct you to someone. Where I live they call it the Lawyer Referral Service. They might pay more attention to a letter from a lawyer, perhaps accompanied by a signed release. Keep at it. Kathleen Cindy Crawford wrote: >Hello List > >I am hoping someone in a legal capacity can help me with a question on >Nursing Home Records in Butler County. Several yeas ago there was a Judge >who told me if the nursing home was privately owned they could give me >information if they wanted to but state or government run homes were >different and had a different set of laws to follow. > > > >Here is my problem, I had a great, great Aunt who was in a nursing home in >Butler County, OH. She died in 1994. She never knew any of her family, >she had been in institutions for her entire life. My mother never even knew >she existed until we started the genealogy hunt together and found her birth >record and some other records to show us that she belonged to our family. >That was in 1996. We went to this nursing home the lady pulled the records >out and let me see that they had them, the file was probably 8 inches thick. >She wouldn’t give me any information out of them. My Aunt never married, >she had epilepsy and they thought she was crazy and she lived in the Orient >in Columbus and in many foster care homes until she was placed in this >nursing home when the Orient closed down. Now she was the youngest of this >family besides a brother. My grandmother and 3 other sisters and the boy >were all put in orphans homes in 1906 when their father died. Now my mother >would be the niece of this lady and my mother and all her siblings are gone. >My grandmother always wanted to find all her siblings she found the 3 >sisters but never found the brother. I have since found where he went. He >was sent to WV to a family there. Now I know the records for my Aunt in >this nursing home will give me answers to a lot of questions because I have >also talked with one family that they would let her visit in Columbus. > > > >I need to know if there is a legal way to be able to see these records? >There is no one left but me to care. If the boy were still alive he would >be 106 years old. All siblings have died, she never married, there are no >children of hers, my mother’s entire family are gone. I don’t see how Hippa >Privacy can come into play since I have asked many times since 1996 for the >information. 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On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 14:38:18 -0400, "Cindy Crawford" <clcrawford@fuse.net> wrote: >He lived from 1890 to 1906 when he died in Cincinnati. Is this correct? -- Dennis M. Kowallek kowallek@iglou.com ******************

Hi Dennis, No, he lived in Cincinnati from 1890 until he died in 1906. I don't really have any idea when or where he was born. His death cert says born in Ohio but they couldn't even get his name spelled right so how can I know birth state is right? His name on death cert is Frank EDDIE...his name was Francis Marion EDDY. Cindy -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Kowallek [mailto:kowallek@iglou.com] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 2:46 PM To: OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER-L] Help with Nursing Home Question On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 14:38:18 -0400, "Cindy Crawford" <clcrawford@fuse.net> wrote: >He lived from 1890 to 1906 when he died in Cincinnati. Is this correct? -- Dennis M. Kowallek kowallek@iglou.com ****************** ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== Butler County Archives and Records Center - http://www.butlercountyohio.org/records/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.4/320 - Release Date: 4/20/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.4/320 - Release Date: 4/20/2006