Your analogy of these records are just what Gale Wallen (another researcher on Charles Dill in Illinois) and I have deduced. I was trying to find more information on Margaret Dill today, like who she married, when she died, etc., but I don't have access to census records. I suspect that either Margaret had Charles out of wedlock (since she was old enough) or Matthew had gotten some girl pregnant and his mother adopted the boy. Yes, we need to find some birth and/or marriage records, I guess. Any ideas of where to start, Ann? Appreciate your help immensely, Barbara in Indiana Ann Trimmer <ann@trimmer.net> wrote: If you use the 1850 Green Twp, Hamilton Co census with John D Dill 44 Ann 39 Cort A 15 Margt 13 Mathew 11 Elias F 7 and the one I just found 1860 Crosby Twp, Hamilton Co OH p452 Mathew Dill 21 Famer OH Anna Dill 47 House work OH Margaret Dill 23 House work OH Elias Dill 17 Farm Laborer OH Samuel Pesline 6 then John was dead by the time Charles was born in July 1861, as well as dead by June 1860. This does make it harder for Ann and John to have been Charles parents. This makes it look way more like Margaret was Charles's maybe, unwed mother and he was then adopted by his grandmother. I don't even want to start in on who the heck Samuel Pesline was! I'd say much of this can be cleared up by looking at some vital records! Ann ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== Butler County American History & Genealogy Project http://www.usgennet.org/usa/oh/county/butler

Barbara, I found a Margaret Dill in the Hamilton County Ohio Census for 1870. 1870 census Crosby Twp Hamilton County Ohio Groesbeck Page 26 Amos age 58 Margaret age 33 Charles age 10 Sandi Deaton-Kneer Orlando, FL -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Noble [mailto:barbaranoble@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 8:44 PM To: OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER-L] Re: Dills Your analogy of these records are just what Gale Wallen (another researcher on Charles Dill in Illinois) and I have deduced. I was trying to find more information on Margaret Dill today, like who she married, when she died, etc., but I don't have access to census records. I suspect that either Margaret had Charles out of wedlock (since she was old enough) or Matthew had gotten some girl pregnant and his mother adopted the boy. Yes, we need to find some birth and/or marriage records, I guess. Any ideas of where to start, Ann? Appreciate your help immensely, Barbara in Indiana Ann Trimmer <ann@trimmer.net> wrote: If you use the 1850 Green Twp, Hamilton Co census with John D Dill 44 Ann 39 Cort A 15 Margt 13 Mathew 11 Elias F 7 and the one I just found 1860 Crosby Twp, Hamilton Co OH p452 Mathew Dill 21 Famer OH Anna Dill 47 House work OH Margaret Dill 23 House work OH Elias Dill 17 Farm Laborer OH Samuel Pesline 6 then John was dead by the time Charles was born in July 1861, as well as dead by June 1860. This does make it harder for Ann and John to have been Charles parents. This makes it look way more like Margaret was Charles's maybe, unwed mother and he was then adopted by his grandmother. I don't even want to start in on who the heck Samuel Pesline was! I'd say much of this can be cleared up by looking at some vital records! Ann ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== Butler County American History & Genealogy Project http://www.usgennet.org/usa/oh/county/butler ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== Butler County Archives and Records Center - http://www.butlercountyohio.org/records/

Sorry. It should read Ann age 58 not Amos -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Noble [mailto:barbaranoble@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 8:44 PM To: OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER-L] Re: Dills Your analogy of these records are just what Gale Wallen (another researcher on Charles Dill in Illinois) and I have deduced. I was trying to find more information on Margaret Dill today, like who she married, when she died, etc., but I don't have access to census records. I suspect that either Margaret had Charles out of wedlock (since she was old enough) or Matthew had gotten some girl pregnant and his mother adopted the boy. Yes, we need to find some birth and/or marriage records, I guess. Any ideas of where to start, Ann? Appreciate your help immensely, Barbara in Indiana Ann Trimmer <ann@trimmer.net> wrote: If you use the 1850 Green Twp, Hamilton Co census with John D Dill 44 Ann 39 Cort A 15 Margt 13 Mathew 11 Elias F 7 and the one I just found 1860 Crosby Twp, Hamilton Co OH p452 Mathew Dill 21 Famer OH Anna Dill 47 House work OH Margaret Dill 23 House work OH Elias Dill 17 Farm Laborer OH Samuel Pesline 6 then John was dead by the time Charles was born in July 1861, as well as dead by June 1860. This does make it harder for Ann and John to have been Charles parents. This makes it look way more like Margaret was Charles's maybe, unwed mother and he was then adopted by his grandmother. I don't even want to start in on who the heck Samuel Pesline was! I'd say much of this can be cleared up by looking at some vital records! Ann ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== Butler County American History & Genealogy Project http://www.usgennet.org/usa/oh/county/butler ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== Butler County Archives and Records Center - http://www.butlercountyohio.org/records/