Shirley- I haven't heard any gossip about anyone scalped. That may predate even the Middletown "riverside" cemetery. I have heard about a Liberty Twp woman "scalped" and supposed tombstones - that "cemetery" has no stones and is surrounded by homes- no evidence of any burials. It is possible that your relative was buried where he was found. I have heard that that was done and without a stone and before 1867 there would be no record. Sorry I couldn't help- consider "Putting" your relative into the "Riverside" Cemetery. I'm willing to put speculative burials- especially if you have a year. Worst thing that would happen- I'd be wrong. I figure wrong is sometimes better than leaving no record and loosing relatives by neglect. Caroline Huppi ----- Original Message ----- From: "unicorn1945" <unicorn1945@sbcglobal.net> To: <ohbutler@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown > Carolyn, > :O) The one I'm looking for would be my ggg grandfather who was found scalped. This was very early. Considering I'm in my sixties, that would have been "back there". I'll see what I can find on the link you sent and I do appreciate it. > At the time I went to high school in Hamilton, I never had a clue my family had been in that area. > Shirley > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Caroline Huppi > To: ohbutler@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:50 AM > Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown > > > Shirley, > It is unlikely there are any Hinkles in the Riverside Cemtery as there is > only 1 Hinkle in the Middletown Cemetery listed as death in 1901 much later > than the "Riverside" time frame. > > You might want to go through all the cemeteries at > www.rootsweb.com/~ohbutcem to find Hinkles. There are a handful in Madison > township in the Elk Creek Cemetery. Until I'm a lot smarter there will not > be a global search on this website. > > good luck- Caroline Huppi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "shirley pearson" <unicorn1945@sbcglobal.net> > To: <ohbutler@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 3:38 AM > Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown > > > I've not followed this conversation so forgive me if I'm asking about > something already answered. Are there records for this cemetery? I'm > looking for the old burials of any Hinkles - any spelling. > > Shirley > > Indiana > > > > Richard Martin <remartin@worldnet.att.net> wrote: > > Caroline, > > > > I have tried to research that same information off and on a couple of > times > > in the past but found no definitive documentation. I'm looking for the > > burial location of the father of my GG Grandfather James G. Martin born > 1810 > > in Butler Co, OH. I would be very interested if you locate any proof of > > Martin's buried in that cemetery. > > > > Possible first name of his father would be William if James G. Martin > > followed the Scottish practice of naming his second son after his father > and > > his first son Levi after his wife's father which he did. His first > daughter > > was Amelia which should have been the name of Williams' wife and James' > > mother. He named his second daughter Sarah which was his mother in-laws > name > > so he followed the naming pattern with Levi and Sarah in those cases. > > > > Some associated facts: > > > > In earlier research (20 years ago)I thought that Jonathan L. Martin was > the > > father of James G. Martin because he had a son James C. Martin and > daughter > > Sarah and he was also of a Scottish line and for a multitude of other > > reasons and associated facts to numerous to go into here. I do think the > > families are distantly related but James father was born in Scotland and > his > > mother born in Ohio where as Jonathan's had been here for several > > generations in Va. Some more current research of associated families in > > Bulter Co., OH leads me to believe a William Martin was the father of > James > > G. Martin. > > > > A book titled Buckeye Presbyterianism records the minutes of an Oct 7, > 1808 > > meeting in which James Scott was sent off by the Lancaster Presbytery to > > western Ohio. This Licentiate Rev. James Scott was first at Fredericktown. > > He is recorded as a Canonsburg Man a town in Western PA. Many members of > > this western PA Presbyterian Congregation moved together following Scott > to > > Butler Co. > > > > In the 1800 Census of the County of Washington, PA is a William Martin and > > John Martin next door to each other. Close neighbors are Alexander Reed, > > James Reed, and John Scott. > > > > There is a gedcom file showing a John Scott b 1728 Scotland / Ireland d > > 1810 Butler Co., OH with a son b 12 Feb 1771 PA d 19 May 1857 Butler Co., > > OH. > > > > 1810 Tax Records for Butler, Co., OH shows both James Scott and John Scott > > with property at R2,T5 Sec. 25. > > William Martin R2, T5, Sec.23. > > > > In the Miami Co., OH 1835 Census James G. Martin is living seven houses > from > > James Reed and eight houses from Asa Scott. This is in Casstown, Miami > Co., > > OH > > > > If you find any burial listings tied to these families it may indicate > > members of that congregation were buried on the bluff over looking the > > river. > > > > Richard Martin > > remartin@worldnet.att.net > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ohbutler-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohbutler-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > On Behalf Of Caroline Huppi > > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 2:05 PM > > To: OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown > > > > Does anyone have a list or even a speculation as to who was buried in the > > original Middletown Burial ground along a bluff of the Great Miami River? > > > > I am working on reconstructing a list of burials for this cemetery to have > > online with the Middletown Cemeteries. There is no indication from the > > Middletown Cemetery records that burials were moved from the "Riverside" > > burial grounds to the Middletown Cemetery. The Catharine Vail w/o a > Stephen > > Vail, in the Middletown Cemetery, did not die in 1819 as generally > reported > > but actually 1849- the stone is difficult to read but online genealogies > > reinforce this belief. I have tried to use online genealogies from > > rootsweb.com to try to track possible burials for this cemetery. > > > > Also note that the "Riverside" burial ground was "destroyed" by flooding > > well before the historic 1913 flooding. > > > > Supposedly there were many Revolutionary War Veterans buried in the > > "Riverside" burial ground as the Middletown Cemetery is the resting place > > for only 2 Rev. War Vets > > > > Any help/ speculation would be appreciated. thanks- > > > > Caroline Huppi > > www.rootsweb.com/~ohmidcem > > www.rootsweb.com/~ohbutcem > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.22/739 - Release Date: 3/29/2007 1:36 PM > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Carolyn - Good idea but let me do some checking first to make sure I don't have a burial listed someplace. I doubt it but will check. Do you list them as speculative burials? Shirley ----- Original Message ----- From: Caroline Huppi To: ohbutler@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown Shirley- I haven't heard any gossip about anyone scalped. That may predate even the Middletown "riverside" cemetery. I have heard about a Liberty Twp woman "scalped" and supposed tombstones - that "cemetery" has no stones and is surrounded by homes- no evidence of any burials. It is possible that your relative was buried where he was found. I have heard that that was done and without a stone and before 1867 there would be no record. Sorry I couldn't help- consider "Putting" your relative into the "Riverside" Cemetery. I'm willing to put speculative burials- especially if you have a year. Worst thing that would happen- I'd be wrong. I figure wrong is sometimes better than leaving no record and loosing relatives by neglect. Caroline Huppi ----- Original Message ----- From: "unicorn1945" <unicorn1945@sbcglobal.net> To: <ohbutler@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown > Carolyn, > :O) The one I'm looking for would be my ggg grandfather who was found scalped. This was very early. Considering I'm in my sixties, that would have been "back there". I'll see what I can find on the link you sent and I do appreciate it. > At the time I went to high school in Hamilton, I never had a clue my family had been in that area. > Shirley > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Caroline Huppi > To: ohbutler@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:50 AM > Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown > > > Shirley, > It is unlikely there are any Hinkles in the Riverside Cemtery as there is > only 1 Hinkle in the Middletown Cemetery listed as death in 1901 much later > than the "Riverside" time frame. > > You might want to go through all the cemeteries at > www.rootsweb.com/~ohbutcem to find Hinkles. There are a handful in Madison > township in the Elk Creek Cemetery. Until I'm a lot smarter there will not > be a global search on this website. > > good luck- Caroline Huppi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "shirley pearson" <unicorn1945@sbcglobal.net> > To: <ohbutler@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 3:38 AM > Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown > > > I've not followed this conversation so forgive me if I'm asking about > something already answered. Are there records for this cemetery? I'm > looking for the old burials of any Hinkles - any spelling. > > Shirley > > Indiana > > > > Richard Martin <remartin@worldnet.att.net> wrote: > > Caroline, > > > > I have tried to research that same information off and on a couple of > times > > in the past but found no definitive documentation. I'm looking for the > > burial location of the father of my GG Grandfather James G. Martin born > 1810 > > in Butler Co, OH. I would be very interested if you locate any proof of > > Martin's buried in that cemetery. > > > > Possible first name of his father would be William if James G. Martin > > followed the Scottish practice of naming his second son after his father > and > > his first son Levi after his wife's father which he did. His first > daughter > > was Amelia which should have been the name of Williams' wife and James' > > mother. He named his second daughter Sarah which was his mother in-laws > name > > so he followed the naming pattern with Levi and Sarah in those cases. > > > > Some associated facts: > > > > In earlier research (20 years ago)I thought that Jonathan L. Martin was > the > > father of James G. Martin because he had a son James C. Martin and > daughter > > Sarah and he was also of a Scottish line and for a multitude of other > > reasons and associated facts to numerous to go into here. I do think the > > families are distantly related but James father was born in Scotland and > his > > mother born in Ohio where as Jonathan's had been here for several > > generations in Va. Some more current research of associated families in > > Bulter Co., OH leads me to believe a William Martin was the father of > James > > G. Martin. > > > > A book titled Buckeye Presbyterianism records the minutes of an Oct 7, > 1808 > > meeting in which James Scott was sent off by the Lancaster Presbytery to > > western Ohio. This Licentiate Rev. James Scott was first at Fredericktown. > > He is recorded as a Canonsburg Man a town in Western PA. Many members of > > this western PA Presbyterian Congregation moved together following Scott > to > > Butler Co. > > > > In the 1800 Census of the County of Washington, PA is a William Martin and > > John Martin next door to each other. Close neighbors are Alexander Reed, > > James Reed, and John Scott. > > > > There is a gedcom file showing a John Scott b 1728 Scotland / Ireland d > > 1810 Butler Co., OH with a son b 12 Feb 1771 PA d 19 May 1857 Butler Co., > > OH. > > > > 1810 Tax Records for Butler, Co., OH shows both James Scott and John Scott > > with property at R2,T5 Sec. 25. > > William Martin R2, T5, Sec.23. > > > > In the Miami Co., OH 1835 Census James G. Martin is living seven houses > from > > James Reed and eight houses from Asa Scott. This is in Casstown, Miami > Co., > > OH > > > > If you find any burial listings tied to these families it may indicate > > members of that congregation were buried on the bluff over looking the > > river. > > > > Richard Martin > > remartin@worldnet.att.net > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ohbutler-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohbutler-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > On Behalf Of Caroline Huppi > > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 2:05 PM > > To: OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown > > > > Does anyone have a list or even a speculation as to who was buried in the > > original Middletown Burial ground along a bluff of the Great Miami River? > > > > I am working on reconstructing a list of burials for this cemetery to have > > online with the Middletown Cemeteries. There is no indication from the > > Middletown Cemetery records that burials were moved from the "Riverside" > > burial grounds to the Middletown Cemetery. The Catharine Vail w/o a > Stephen > > Vail, in the Middletown Cemetery, did not die in 1819 as generally > reported > > but actually 1849- the stone is difficult to read but online genealogies > > reinforce this belief. I have tried to use online genealogies from > > rootsweb.com to try to track possible burials for this cemetery. > > > > Also note that the "Riverside" burial ground was "destroyed" by flooding > > well before the historic 1913 flooding. > > > > Supposedly there were many Revolutionary War Veterans buried in the > > "Riverside" burial ground as the Middletown Cemetery is the resting place > > for only 2 Rev. War Vets > > > > Any help/ speculation would be appreciated. thanks- > > > > Caroline Huppi > > www.rootsweb.com/~ohmidcem > > www.rootsweb.com/~ohbutcem > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.22/739 - Release Date: 3/29/2007 1:36 PM > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. 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