On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 09:56:35 -0700 (PDT), deb m <da120757@yahoo.com> wrote: >what about the cemetery that was on Tytus Avenue at >Enoch street? I was told that it was covered for a >parking lot not sure of the dates but i do have the >article about that cemetery somewhere in my cemetery >paperwork not sure of dates on it etc If you post a little more info about this cemetery I will add it to my Butler Co. Cemeteries web page. I don't think I have seen this one mentioned anywhere before. Unless it went by another name. -- Dennis Kowallek Hanover Twp., Butler Co. kowallek@iglou.com ******************

Deb- That cemetery is written about in an early ARMCO article. Only Enoch Abner is spoken of. I have found no listing for that cemetery either. Perhaps someone will be able to separate a list of lost buials inot "correct" cemeteries if any list existed. Perhaps you want to collect data on the Tytus road cemetery. Caroline ----- Original Message ----- From: "deb m" <da120757@yahoo.com> To: <ohbutler@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown > > what about the cemetery that was on Tytus Avenue at > Enoch street? I was told that it was covered for a > parking lot not sure of the dates but i do have the > article about that cemetery somewhere in my cemetery > paperwork not sure of dates on it etc > > Deb > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. > Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. > http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Joyce and Ken Hinkle, from Middletown (Deb Morrison is in contact with them consistantly and they are with the Middletown genealogical group) can probably give you a fairly accurate rundown on where the Hinkles are located in this area, since they have been keeping tabs on them for several decades. I know they were located out at Elk Creek and Jacksonburg since before I can remember......GeneWilliams Caroline - - 8 more days and I will be getting back to the Mound Cemetery. THANK GOD....TAX TIME IS ALMOST OVER....and I am ready to get unchained from my desk. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Caroline Huppi" <chuppi@cinci.rr.com> To: <ohbutler@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown > Shirley, > It is unlikely there are any Hinkles in the Riverside Cemtery as there is > only 1 Hinkle in the Middletown Cemetery listed as death in 1901 much > later > than the "Riverside" time frame. > > You might want to go through all the cemeteries at > www.rootsweb.com/~ohbutcem to find Hinkles. There are a handful in > Madison > township in the Elk Creek Cemetery. Until I'm a lot smarter there will > not > be a global search on this website. > > good luck- Caroline Huppi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "shirley pearson" <unicorn1945@sbcglobal.net> > To: <ohbutler@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 3:38 AM > Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown > >> I've not followed this conversation so forgive me if I'm asking about > something already answered. Are there records for this cemetery? I'm > looking for the old burials of any Hinkles - any spelling. >> Shirley >> Indiana >> >> Richard Martin <remartin@worldnet.att.net> wrote: >> Caroline, >> >> I have tried to research that same information off and on a couple of > times >> in the past but found no definitive documentation. I'm looking for the >> burial location of the father of my GG Grandfather James G. Martin born > 1810 >> in Butler Co, OH. I would be very interested if you locate any proof of >> Martin's buried in that cemetery. >> >> Possible first name of his father would be William if James G. Martin >> followed the Scottish practice of naming his second son after his father > and >> his first son Levi after his wife's father which he did. His first > daughter >> was Amelia which should have been the name of Williams' wife and James' >> mother. He named his second daughter Sarah which was his mother in-laws > name >> so he followed the naming pattern with Levi and Sarah in those cases. >> >> Some associated facts: >> >> In earlier research (20 years ago)I thought that Jonathan L. Martin was > the >> father of James G. Martin because he had a son James C. Martin and > daughter >> Sarah and he was also of a Scottish line and for a multitude of other >> reasons and associated facts to numerous to go into here. I do think the >> families are distantly related but James father was born in Scotland and > his >> mother born in Ohio where as Jonathan's had been here for several >> generations in Va. Some more current research of associated families in >> Bulter Co., OH leads me to believe a William Martin was the father of > James >> G. Martin. >> >> A book titled Buckeye Presbyterianism records the minutes of an Oct 7, > 1808 >> meeting in which James Scott was sent off by the Lancaster Presbytery to >> western Ohio. This Licentiate Rev. James Scott was first at >> Fredericktown. >> He is recorded as a Canonsburg Man a town in Western PA. Many members of >> this western PA Presbyterian Congregation moved together following Scott > to >> Butler Co. >> >> In the 1800 Census of the County of Washington, PA is a William Martin >> and >> John Martin next door to each other. Close neighbors are Alexander Reed, >> James Reed, and John Scott. >> >> There is a gedcom file showing a John Scott b 1728 Scotland / Ireland d >> 1810 Butler Co., OH with a son b 12 Feb 1771 PA d 19 May 1857 Butler Co., >> OH. >> >> 1810 Tax Records for Butler, Co., OH shows both James Scott and John >> Scott >> with property at R2,T5 Sec. 25. >> William Martin R2, T5, Sec.23. >> >> In the Miami Co., OH 1835 Census James G. Martin is living seven houses > from >> James Reed and eight houses from Asa Scott. This is in Casstown, Miami > Co., >> OH >> >> If you find any burial listings tied to these families it may indicate >> members of that congregation were buried on the bluff over looking the >> river. >> >> Richard Martin >> remartin@worldnet.att.net >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ohbutler-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:ohbutler-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of Caroline Huppi >> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 2:05 PM >> To: OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown >> >> Does anyone have a list or even a speculation as to who was buried in the >> original Middletown Burial ground along a bluff of the Great Miami River? >> >> I am working on reconstructing a list of burials for this cemetery to >> have >> online with the Middletown Cemeteries. There is no indication from the >> Middletown Cemetery records that burials were moved from the "Riverside" >> burial grounds to the Middletown Cemetery. The Catharine Vail w/o a > Stephen >> Vail, in the Middletown Cemetery, did not die in 1819 as generally > reported >> but actually 1849- the stone is difficult to read but online genealogies >> reinforce this belief. I have tried to use online genealogies from >> rootsweb.com to try to track possible burials for this cemetery. >> >> Also note that the "Riverside" burial ground was "destroyed" by flooding >> well before the historic 1913 flooding. >> >> Supposedly there were many Revolutionary War Veterans buried in the >> "Riverside" burial ground as the Middletown Cemetery is the resting place >> for only 2 Rev. War Vets >> >> Any help/ speculation would be appreciated. thanks- >> >> Caroline Huppi >> www.rootsweb.com/~ohmidcem >> www.rootsweb.com/~ohbutcem >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.0.0/754 - Release Date: 4/9/2007 > 10:59 PM > >

Deb, Interesting! It would be wonderful if you could transcribe that to the list or, if too long, transcribe and have it put on the website. Just a thought. Shirley deb m <da120757@yahoo.com> wrote: what about the cemetery that was on Tytus Avenue at Enoch street? I was told that it was covered for a parking lot not sure of the dates but i do have the article about that cemetery somewhere in my cemetery paperwork not sure of dates on it etc Deb ____________________________________________________________________________________ Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Has anyone found French's buried in Butler county? I am researching Phillip French who moved to Vermillion co. IN after 1820. I wonder if his parents were in Butler co. Marilyn in West Virginia

Middletown is Quite a bit further from the Ohio River to make it reasonable that " Also it is possible that, Christropher Round/Rowan is buried there as he > was ambused by Indians near the Ohio River while a teen ager. I know that they > have lived in Fairfield and in several other areas". Also If the Family is recorded as known in Fairfield Township it isn't entirely reasonable that they would be buried in Lemon Township at the "Riverside" cemetery. In the Amanda Cemetery nearby Middletown Cemetery and possibly the Little Praries Baptist Church burial ground there is an 1802 limestone burial marker. so there are plenty of Small cemeteries between Fairfield township and Lemon township. Religion or other evidence of residency in the Lemon/ Madison Township would give more credence as to burial location. Perhaps we need to start a website of generic lost burials in Butler County. But if you have a township where the people are more likely from- they should be identified as buried in the Township and not a specific cemetery. CAroline Huppi ----- Original Message ----- From: <Round1930@aol.com> To: <ohbutler@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown > > In a message dated 4/10/2007 11:31:57 AM Central Daylight Time, > chuppi@cinci.rr.com writes: > > Most if not all of the burials will be speculative. For example Noah & > Joel Doty are written about having died in 1806 & 1807. No one talks about > where they were buried. The odds are good that they were buried in the > Riverside Cemetery as there is no evidence that Daniel Doty had these 2 > moved or buried in the 1827 opening of the Middletown Cemetery. I plan to > reference "Why" the person has been put in the cemetery. > > I have read with interest the early burials. The Dotys, if I remember > correctly bought land from the Rounds/Rowans back in the early 1800s. My 4th great > grandfather, Jacob Round died there in 1822. Jacob Round/Rowan died there in > 1819. Elizabeth (Round) Shrader and her husband, Aaron Shrader, died there in > 1826. Also it is possible that, Christropher Round/Rowan is buried there as he > was ambused by Indians near the Ohio River while a teen ager. I know that they > have lived in Fairfield and in several other areas. Some of this information > came from the book " I.......HOKE, BEQUEATH " by Jean Stiger Berlekamp. I don't > have the book; but a decendent of William Schrader's wife , Susanna Hoke, The > Colmers, and others gave me the infdormation as Elizabeth was their ancestor. > Is it possibvle that there could be a grave stone for one or more of the > above? Charles Round > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Has anyone come across John (1841) and Hulda (Jenkins) Handley? Their children were Archy (1864), Barbara (1869), Elinnes (maybe aka "Gillie"???) (1873), and Stanley (1886) and maybe more. Thanks. Nancy Sween ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

In a message dated 4/10/2007 11:31:57 AM Central Daylight Time, chuppi@cinci.rr.com writes: Most if not all of the burials will be speculative. For example Noah & Joel Doty are written about having died in 1806 & 1807. No one talks about where they were buried. The odds are good that they were buried in the Riverside Cemetery as there is no evidence that Daniel Doty had these 2 moved or buried in the 1827 opening of the Middletown Cemetery. I plan to reference "Why" the person has been put in the cemetery. I have read with interest the early burials. The Dotys, if I remember correctly bought land from the Rounds/Rowans back in the early 1800s. My 4th great grandfather, Jacob Round died there in 1822. Jacob Round/Rowan died there in 1819. Elizabeth (Round) Shrader and her husband, Aaron Shrader, died there in 1826. Also it is possible that, Christropher Round/Rowan is buried there as he was ambused by Indians near the Ohio River while a teen ager. I know that they have lived in Fairfield and in several other areas. Some of this information came from the book " I.......HOKE, BEQUEATH " by Jean Stiger Berlekamp. I don't have the book; but a decendent of William Schrader's wife , Susanna Hoke, The Colmers, and others gave me the infdormation as Elizabeth was their ancestor. Is it possibvle that there could be a grave stone for one or more of the above? Charles Round ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Shirley, Most if not all of the burials will be speculative. For example Noah & Joel Doty are written about having died in 1806 & 1807. No one talks about where they were buried. The odds are good that they were buried in the Riverside Cemetery as there is no evidence that Daniel Doty had these 2 moved or buried in the 1827 opening of the Middletown Cemetery. I plan to reference "Why" the person has been put in the cemetery. In the "Centennial" book about Butler County someone wrote- "The city should have preserved it and here erected a shaft to Steven Vail and others. In 1873 but two stones remained, that of George Russell, who died May 25, 1814, and Moses Vail, son of Steven Vail, who died at the age of sixty-two years. " These are the only "known" burials in this cemetery. I hope that clarifies the approach I am taking on reconstructing the burials for this lost cemetery. Caroline Huppi ----- Original Message ----- From: "unicorn1945" <unicorn1945@sbcglobal.net> To: <ohbutler@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown > Carolyn - > Good idea but let me do some checking first to make sure I don't have a burial listed someplace. I doubt it but will check. > Do you list them as speculative burials? > Shirley > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Caroline Huppi > To: ohbutler@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 12:09 PM > Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown > > > Shirley- > > I haven't heard any gossip about anyone scalped. That may predate even the > Middletown "riverside" cemetery. I have heard about a Liberty Twp woman > "scalped" and supposed tombstones - that "cemetery" has no stones and is > surrounded by homes- no evidence of any burials. It is possible that your > relative was buried where he was found. I have heard that that was done and > without a stone and before 1867 there would be no record. > > Sorry I couldn't help- consider "Putting" your relative into the > "Riverside" Cemetery. I'm willing to put speculative burials- especially if > you have a year. Worst thing that would happen- I'd be wrong. I figure > wrong is sometimes better than leaving no record and loosing relatives by > neglect. Caroline Huppi > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "unicorn1945" <unicorn1945@sbcglobal.net> > To: <ohbutler@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 11:33 AM > Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown > > > > Carolyn, > > :O) The one I'm looking for would be my ggg grandfather who was found > scalped. This was very early. Considering I'm in my sixties, that would > have been "back there". I'll see what I can find on the link you sent and I > do appreciate it. > > At the time I went to high school in Hamilton, I never had a clue my > family had been in that area. > > Shirley > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Caroline Huppi > > To: ohbutler@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:50 AM > > Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown > > > > > > Shirley, > > It is unlikely there are any Hinkles in the Riverside Cemtery as there > is > > only 1 Hinkle in the Middletown Cemetery listed as death in 1901 much > later > > than the "Riverside" time frame. > > > > You might want to go through all the cemeteries at > > www.rootsweb.com/~ohbutcem to find Hinkles. There are a handful in > Madison > > township in the Elk Creek Cemetery. Until I'm a lot smarter there will > not > > be a global search on this website. > > > > good luck- Caroline Huppi > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "shirley pearson" <unicorn1945@sbcglobal.net> > > To: <ohbutler@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 3:38 AM > > Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown > > > > > I've not followed this conversation so forgive me if I'm asking about > > something already answered. Are there records for this cemetery? I'm > > looking for the old burials of any Hinkles - any spelling. > > > Shirley > > > Indiana > > > > > > Richard Martin <remartin@worldnet.att.net> wrote: > > > Caroline, > > > > > > I have tried to research that same information off and on a couple of > > times > > > in the past but found no definitive documentation. I'm looking for the > > > burial location of the father of my GG Grandfather James G. Martin > born > > 1810 > > > in Butler Co, OH. I would be very interested if you locate any proof > of > > > Martin's buried in that cemetery. > > > > > > Possible first name of his father would be William if James G. Martin > > > followed the Scottish practice of naming his second son after his > father > > and > > > his first son Levi after his wife's father which he did. His first > > daughter > > > was Amelia which should have been the name of Williams' wife and > James' > > > mother. He named his second daughter Sarah which was his mother > in-laws > > name > > > so he followed the naming pattern with Levi and Sarah in those cases. > > > > > > Some associated facts: > > > > > > In earlier research (20 years ago)I thought that Jonathan L. Martin > was > > the > > > father of James G. Martin because he had a son James C. Martin and > > daughter > > > Sarah and he was also of a Scottish line and for a multitude of other > > > reasons and associated facts to numerous to go into here. I do think > the > > > families are distantly related but James father was born in Scotland > and > > his > > > mother born in Ohio where as Jonathan's had been here for several > > > generations in Va. Some more current research of associated families > in > > > Bulter Co., OH leads me to believe a William Martin was the father of > > James > > > G. Martin. > > > > > > A book titled Buckeye Presbyterianism records the minutes of an Oct 7, > > 1808 > > > meeting in which James Scott was sent off by the Lancaster Presbytery > to > > > western Ohio. This Licentiate Rev. James Scott was first at > Fredericktown. > > > He is recorded as a Canonsburg Man a town in Western PA. Many members > of > > > this western PA Presbyterian Congregation moved together following > Scott > > to > > > Butler Co. > > > > > > In the 1800 Census of the County of Washington, PA is a William Martin > and > > > John Martin next door to each other. Close neighbors are Alexander > Reed, > > > James Reed, and John Scott. > > > > > > There is a gedcom file showing a John Scott b 1728 Scotland / Ireland > d > > > 1810 Butler Co., OH with a son b 12 Feb 1771 PA d 19 May 1857 Butler > Co., > > > OH. > > > > > > 1810 Tax Records for Butler, Co., OH shows both James Scott and John > Scott > > > with property at R2,T5 Sec. 25. > > > William Martin R2, T5, Sec.23. > > > > > > In the Miami Co., OH 1835 Census James G. Martin is living seven > houses > > from > > > James Reed and eight houses from Asa Scott. This is in Casstown, Miami > > Co., > > > OH > > > > > > If you find any burial listings tied to these families it may indicate > > > members of that congregation were buried on the bluff over looking the > > > river. > > > > > > Richard Martin > > > remartin@worldnet.att.net > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: ohbutler-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:ohbutler-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > > On Behalf Of Caroline Huppi > > > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 2:05 PM > > > To: OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown > > > > > > Does anyone have a list or even a speculation as to who was buried in > the > > > original Middletown Burial ground along a bluff of the Great Miami > River? > > > > > > I am working on reconstructing a list of burials for this cemetery to > have > > > online with the Middletown Cemeteries. There is no indication from the > > > Middletown Cemetery records that burials were moved from the > "Riverside" > > > burial grounds to the Middletown Cemetery. The Catharine Vail w/o a > > Stephen > > > Vail, in the Middletown Cemetery, did not die in 1819 as generally > > reported > > > but actually 1849- the stone is difficult to read but online > genealogies > > > reinforce this belief. I have tried to use online genealogies from > > > rootsweb.com to try to track possible burials for this cemetery. > > > > > > Also note that the "Riverside" burial ground was "destroyed" by > flooding > > > well before the historic 1913 flooding. > > > > > > Supposedly there were many Revolutionary War Veterans buried in the > > > "Riverside" burial ground as the Middletown Cemetery is the resting > place > > > for only 2 Rev. War Vets > > > > > > Any help/ speculation would be appreciated. thanks- > > > > > > Caroline Huppi > > > www.rootsweb.com/~ohmidcem > > > www.rootsweb.com/~ohbutcem > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.22/739 - Release Date: > 3/29/2007 1:36 PM > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.22/739 - Release Date: 3/29/2007 1:36 PM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sounds great. I'll get back to you. Thank you! Shirley ----- Original Message ----- From: Caroline Huppi To: ohbutler@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown Shirley, Most if not all of the burials will be speculative. For example Noah & Joel Doty are written about having died in 1806 & 1807. No one talks about where they were buried. The odds are good that they were buried in the Riverside Cemetery as there is no evidence that Daniel Doty had these 2 moved or buried in the 1827 opening of the Middletown Cemetery. I plan to reference "Why" the person has been put in the cemetery. In the "Centennial" book about Butler County someone wrote- "The city should have preserved it and here erected a shaft to Steven Vail and others. In 1873 but two stones remained, that of George Russell, who died May 25, 1814, and Moses Vail, son of Steven Vail, who died at the age of sixty-two years. " These are the only "known" burials in this cemetery. I hope that clarifies the approach I am taking on reconstructing the burials for this lost cemetery. Caroline Huppi ----- Original Message ----- From: "unicorn1945" <unicorn1945@sbcglobal.net> To: <ohbutler@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown > Carolyn - > Good idea but let me do some checking first to make sure I don't have a burial listed someplace. I doubt it but will check. > Do you list them as speculative burials? > Shirley > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Caroline Huppi > To: ohbutler@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 12:09 PM > Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown > > > Shirley- > > I haven't heard any gossip about anyone scalped. That may predate even the > Middletown "riverside" cemetery. I have heard about a Liberty Twp woman > "scalped" and supposed tombstones - that "cemetery" has no stones and is > surrounded by homes- no evidence of any burials. It is possible that your > relative was buried where he was found. I have heard that that was done and > without a stone and before 1867 there would be no record. > > Sorry I couldn't help- consider "Putting" your relative into the > "Riverside" Cemetery. I'm willing to put speculative burials- especially if > you have a year. Worst thing that would happen- I'd be wrong. I figure > wrong is sometimes better than leaving no record and loosing relatives by > neglect. Caroline Huppi > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "unicorn1945" <unicorn1945@sbcglobal.net> > To: <ohbutler@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 11:33 AM > Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown > > > > Carolyn, > > :O) The one I'm looking for would be my ggg grandfather who was found > scalped. This was very early. Considering I'm in my sixties, that would > have been "back there". I'll see what I can find on the link you sent and I > do appreciate it. > > At the time I went to high school in Hamilton, I never had a clue my > family had been in that area. > > Shirley > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Caroline Huppi > > To: ohbutler@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:50 AM > > Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown > > > > > > Shirley, > > It is unlikely there are any Hinkles in the Riverside Cemtery as there > is > > only 1 Hinkle in the Middletown Cemetery listed as death in 1901 much > later > > than the "Riverside" time frame. > > > > You might want to go through all the cemeteries at > > www.rootsweb.com/~ohbutcem to find Hinkles. There are a handful in > Madison > > township in the Elk Creek Cemetery. Until I'm a lot smarter there will > not > > be a global search on this website. > > > > good luck- Caroline Huppi > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "shirley pearson" <unicorn1945@sbcglobal.net> > > To: <ohbutler@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 3:38 AM > > Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown > > > > > I've not followed this conversation so forgive me if I'm asking about > > something already answered. Are there records for this cemetery? I'm > > looking for the old burials of any Hinkles - any spelling. > > > Shirley > > > Indiana > > > > > > Richard Martin <remartin@worldnet.att.net> wrote: > > > Caroline, > > > > > > I have tried to research that same information off and on a couple of > > times > > > in the past but found no definitive documentation. I'm looking for the > > > burial location of the father of my GG Grandfather James G. Martin > born > > 1810 > > > in Butler Co, OH. I would be very interested if you locate any proof > of > > > Martin's buried in that cemetery. > > > > > > Possible first name of his father would be William if James G. Martin > > > followed the Scottish practice of naming his second son after his > father > > and > > > his first son Levi after his wife's father which he did. His first > > daughter > > > was Amelia which should have been the name of Williams' wife and > James' > > > mother. He named his second daughter Sarah which was his mother > in-laws > > name > > > so he followed the naming pattern with Levi and Sarah in those cases. > > > > > > Some associated facts: > > > > > > In earlier research (20 years ago)I thought that Jonathan L. Martin > was > > the > > > father of James G. Martin because he had a son James C. Martin and > > daughter > > > Sarah and he was also of a Scottish line and for a multitude of other > > > reasons and associated facts to numerous to go into here. I do think > the > > > families are distantly related but James father was born in Scotland > and > > his > > > mother born in Ohio where as Jonathan's had been here for several > > > generations in Va. Some more current research of associated families > in > > > Bulter Co., OH leads me to believe a William Martin was the father of > > James > > > G. Martin. > > > > > > A book titled Buckeye Presbyterianism records the minutes of an Oct 7, > > 1808 > > > meeting in which James Scott was sent off by the Lancaster Presbytery > to > > > western Ohio. This Licentiate Rev. James Scott was first at > Fredericktown. > > > He is recorded as a Canonsburg Man a town in Western PA. Many members > of > > > this western PA Presbyterian Congregation moved together following > Scott > > to > > > Butler Co. > > > > > > In the 1800 Census of the County of Washington, PA is a William Martin > and > > > John Martin next door to each other. Close neighbors are Alexander > Reed, > > > James Reed, and John Scott. > > > > > > There is a gedcom file showing a John Scott b 1728 Scotland / Ireland > d > > > 1810 Butler Co., OH with a son b 12 Feb 1771 PA d 19 May 1857 Butler > Co., > > > OH. > > > > > > 1810 Tax Records for Butler, Co., OH shows both James Scott and John > Scott > > > with property at R2,T5 Sec. 25. > > > William Martin R2, T5, Sec.23. > > > > > > In the Miami Co., OH 1835 Census James G. Martin is living seven > houses > > from > > > James Reed and eight houses from Asa Scott. This is in Casstown, Miami > > Co., > > > OH > > > > > > If you find any burial listings tied to these families it may indicate > > > members of that congregation were buried on the bluff over looking the > > > river. > > > > > > Richard Martin > > > remartin@worldnet.att.net > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: ohbutler-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:ohbutler-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > > On Behalf Of Caroline Huppi > > > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 2:05 PM > > > To: OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown > > > > > > Does anyone have a list or even a speculation as to who was buried in > the > > > original Middletown Burial ground along a bluff of the Great Miami > River? > > > > > > I am working on reconstructing a list of burials for this cemetery to > have > > > online with the Middletown Cemeteries. There is no indication from the > > > Middletown Cemetery records that burials were moved from the > "Riverside" > > > burial grounds to the Middletown Cemetery. The Catharine Vail w/o a > > Stephen > > > Vail, in the Middletown Cemetery, did not die in 1819 as generally > > reported > > > but actually 1849- the stone is difficult to read but online > genealogies > > > reinforce this belief. I have tried to use online genealogies from > > > rootsweb.com to try to track possible burials for this cemetery. > > > > > > Also note that the "Riverside" burial ground was "destroyed" by > flooding > > > well before the historic 1913 flooding. > > > > > > Supposedly there were many Revolutionary War Veterans buried in the > > > "Riverside" burial ground as the Middletown Cemetery is the resting > place > > > for only 2 Rev. War Vets > > > > > > Any help/ speculation would be appreciated. thanks- > > > > > > Caroline Huppi > > > www.rootsweb.com/~ohmidcem > > > www.rootsweb.com/~ohbutcem > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.22/739 - Release Date: > 3/29/2007 1:36 PM > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.22/739 - Release Date: 3/29/2007 1:36 PM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. 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Shirley- I haven't heard any gossip about anyone scalped. That may predate even the Middletown "riverside" cemetery. I have heard about a Liberty Twp woman "scalped" and supposed tombstones - that "cemetery" has no stones and is surrounded by homes- no evidence of any burials. It is possible that your relative was buried where he was found. I have heard that that was done and without a stone and before 1867 there would be no record. Sorry I couldn't help- consider "Putting" your relative into the "Riverside" Cemetery. I'm willing to put speculative burials- especially if you have a year. Worst thing that would happen- I'd be wrong. I figure wrong is sometimes better than leaving no record and loosing relatives by neglect. Caroline Huppi ----- Original Message ----- From: "unicorn1945" <unicorn1945@sbcglobal.net> To: <ohbutler@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown > Carolyn, > :O) The one I'm looking for would be my ggg grandfather who was found scalped. This was very early. Considering I'm in my sixties, that would have been "back there". I'll see what I can find on the link you sent and I do appreciate it. > At the time I went to high school in Hamilton, I never had a clue my family had been in that area. > Shirley > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Caroline Huppi > To: ohbutler@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:50 AM > Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown > > > Shirley, > It is unlikely there are any Hinkles in the Riverside Cemtery as there is > only 1 Hinkle in the Middletown Cemetery listed as death in 1901 much later > than the "Riverside" time frame. > > You might want to go through all the cemeteries at > www.rootsweb.com/~ohbutcem to find Hinkles. There are a handful in Madison > township in the Elk Creek Cemetery. Until I'm a lot smarter there will not > be a global search on this website. > > good luck- Caroline Huppi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "shirley pearson" <unicorn1945@sbcglobal.net> > To: <ohbutler@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 3:38 AM > Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown > > > I've not followed this conversation so forgive me if I'm asking about > something already answered. Are there records for this cemetery? I'm > looking for the old burials of any Hinkles - any spelling. > > Shirley > > Indiana > > > > Richard Martin <remartin@worldnet.att.net> wrote: > > Caroline, > > > > I have tried to research that same information off and on a couple of > times > > in the past but found no definitive documentation. I'm looking for the > > burial location of the father of my GG Grandfather James G. Martin born > 1810 > > in Butler Co, OH. I would be very interested if you locate any proof of > > Martin's buried in that cemetery. > > > > Possible first name of his father would be William if James G. Martin > > followed the Scottish practice of naming his second son after his father > and > > his first son Levi after his wife's father which he did. His first > daughter > > was Amelia which should have been the name of Williams' wife and James' > > mother. He named his second daughter Sarah which was his mother in-laws > name > > so he followed the naming pattern with Levi and Sarah in those cases. > > > > Some associated facts: > > > > In earlier research (20 years ago)I thought that Jonathan L. Martin was > the > > father of James G. Martin because he had a son James C. Martin and > daughter > > Sarah and he was also of a Scottish line and for a multitude of other > > reasons and associated facts to numerous to go into here. I do think the > > families are distantly related but James father was born in Scotland and > his > > mother born in Ohio where as Jonathan's had been here for several > > generations in Va. Some more current research of associated families in > > Bulter Co., OH leads me to believe a William Martin was the father of > James > > G. Martin. > > > > A book titled Buckeye Presbyterianism records the minutes of an Oct 7, > 1808 > > meeting in which James Scott was sent off by the Lancaster Presbytery to > > western Ohio. This Licentiate Rev. James Scott was first at Fredericktown. > > He is recorded as a Canonsburg Man a town in Western PA. Many members of > > this western PA Presbyterian Congregation moved together following Scott > to > > Butler Co. > > > > In the 1800 Census of the County of Washington, PA is a William Martin and > > John Martin next door to each other. Close neighbors are Alexander Reed, > > James Reed, and John Scott. > > > > There is a gedcom file showing a John Scott b 1728 Scotland / Ireland d > > 1810 Butler Co., OH with a son b 12 Feb 1771 PA d 19 May 1857 Butler Co., > > OH. > > > > 1810 Tax Records for Butler, Co., OH shows both James Scott and John Scott > > with property at R2,T5 Sec. 25. > > William Martin R2, T5, Sec.23. > > > > In the Miami Co., OH 1835 Census James G. Martin is living seven houses > from > > James Reed and eight houses from Asa Scott. This is in Casstown, Miami > Co., > > OH > > > > If you find any burial listings tied to these families it may indicate > > members of that congregation were buried on the bluff over looking the > > river. > > > > Richard Martin > > remartin@worldnet.att.net > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ohbutler-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohbutler-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > On Behalf Of Caroline Huppi > > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 2:05 PM > > To: OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown > > > > Does anyone have a list or even a speculation as to who was buried in the > > original Middletown Burial ground along a bluff of the Great Miami River? > > > > I am working on reconstructing a list of burials for this cemetery to have > > online with the Middletown Cemeteries. There is no indication from the > > Middletown Cemetery records that burials were moved from the "Riverside" > > burial grounds to the Middletown Cemetery. The Catharine Vail w/o a > Stephen > > Vail, in the Middletown Cemetery, did not die in 1819 as generally > reported > > but actually 1849- the stone is difficult to read but online genealogies > > reinforce this belief. I have tried to use online genealogies from > > rootsweb.com to try to track possible burials for this cemetery. > > > > Also note that the "Riverside" burial ground was "destroyed" by flooding > > well before the historic 1913 flooding. > > > > Supposedly there were many Revolutionary War Veterans buried in the > > "Riverside" burial ground as the Middletown Cemetery is the resting place > > for only 2 Rev. War Vets > > > > Any help/ speculation would be appreciated. thanks- > > > > Caroline Huppi > > www.rootsweb.com/~ohmidcem > > www.rootsweb.com/~ohbutcem > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.22/739 - Release Date: 3/29/2007 1:36 PM > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Carolyn - Good idea but let me do some checking first to make sure I don't have a burial listed someplace. I doubt it but will check. Do you list them as speculative burials? Shirley ----- Original Message ----- From: Caroline Huppi To: ohbutler@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown Shirley- I haven't heard any gossip about anyone scalped. That may predate even the Middletown "riverside" cemetery. I have heard about a Liberty Twp woman "scalped" and supposed tombstones - that "cemetery" has no stones and is surrounded by homes- no evidence of any burials. It is possible that your relative was buried where he was found. I have heard that that was done and without a stone and before 1867 there would be no record. Sorry I couldn't help- consider "Putting" your relative into the "Riverside" Cemetery. I'm willing to put speculative burials- especially if you have a year. Worst thing that would happen- I'd be wrong. I figure wrong is sometimes better than leaving no record and loosing relatives by neglect. Caroline Huppi ----- Original Message ----- From: "unicorn1945" <unicorn1945@sbcglobal.net> To: <ohbutler@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown > Carolyn, > :O) The one I'm looking for would be my ggg grandfather who was found scalped. This was very early. Considering I'm in my sixties, that would have been "back there". I'll see what I can find on the link you sent and I do appreciate it. > At the time I went to high school in Hamilton, I never had a clue my family had been in that area. > Shirley > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Caroline Huppi > To: ohbutler@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:50 AM > Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown > > > Shirley, > It is unlikely there are any Hinkles in the Riverside Cemtery as there is > only 1 Hinkle in the Middletown Cemetery listed as death in 1901 much later > than the "Riverside" time frame. > > You might want to go through all the cemeteries at > www.rootsweb.com/~ohbutcem to find Hinkles. There are a handful in Madison > township in the Elk Creek Cemetery. Until I'm a lot smarter there will not > be a global search on this website. > > good luck- Caroline Huppi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "shirley pearson" <unicorn1945@sbcglobal.net> > To: <ohbutler@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 3:38 AM > Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown > > > I've not followed this conversation so forgive me if I'm asking about > something already answered. Are there records for this cemetery? I'm > looking for the old burials of any Hinkles - any spelling. > > Shirley > > Indiana > > > > Richard Martin <remartin@worldnet.att.net> wrote: > > Caroline, > > > > I have tried to research that same information off and on a couple of > times > > in the past but found no definitive documentation. I'm looking for the > > burial location of the father of my GG Grandfather James G. Martin born > 1810 > > in Butler Co, OH. I would be very interested if you locate any proof of > > Martin's buried in that cemetery. > > > > Possible first name of his father would be William if James G. Martin > > followed the Scottish practice of naming his second son after his father > and > > his first son Levi after his wife's father which he did. His first > daughter > > was Amelia which should have been the name of Williams' wife and James' > > mother. He named his second daughter Sarah which was his mother in-laws > name > > so he followed the naming pattern with Levi and Sarah in those cases. > > > > Some associated facts: > > > > In earlier research (20 years ago)I thought that Jonathan L. Martin was > the > > father of James G. Martin because he had a son James C. Martin and > daughter > > Sarah and he was also of a Scottish line and for a multitude of other > > reasons and associated facts to numerous to go into here. I do think the > > families are distantly related but James father was born in Scotland and > his > > mother born in Ohio where as Jonathan's had been here for several > > generations in Va. Some more current research of associated families in > > Bulter Co., OH leads me to believe a William Martin was the father of > James > > G. Martin. > > > > A book titled Buckeye Presbyterianism records the minutes of an Oct 7, > 1808 > > meeting in which James Scott was sent off by the Lancaster Presbytery to > > western Ohio. This Licentiate Rev. James Scott was first at Fredericktown. > > He is recorded as a Canonsburg Man a town in Western PA. Many members of > > this western PA Presbyterian Congregation moved together following Scott > to > > Butler Co. > > > > In the 1800 Census of the County of Washington, PA is a William Martin and > > John Martin next door to each other. Close neighbors are Alexander Reed, > > James Reed, and John Scott. > > > > There is a gedcom file showing a John Scott b 1728 Scotland / Ireland d > > 1810 Butler Co., OH with a son b 12 Feb 1771 PA d 19 May 1857 Butler Co., > > OH. > > > > 1810 Tax Records for Butler, Co., OH shows both James Scott and John Scott > > with property at R2,T5 Sec. 25. > > William Martin R2, T5, Sec.23. > > > > In the Miami Co., OH 1835 Census James G. Martin is living seven houses > from > > James Reed and eight houses from Asa Scott. This is in Casstown, Miami > Co., > > OH > > > > If you find any burial listings tied to these families it may indicate > > members of that congregation were buried on the bluff over looking the > > river. > > > > Richard Martin > > remartin@worldnet.att.net > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ohbutler-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohbutler-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > On Behalf Of Caroline Huppi > > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 2:05 PM > > To: OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown > > > > Does anyone have a list or even a speculation as to who was buried in the > > original Middletown Burial ground along a bluff of the Great Miami River? > > > > I am working on reconstructing a list of burials for this cemetery to have > > online with the Middletown Cemeteries. There is no indication from the > > Middletown Cemetery records that burials were moved from the "Riverside" > > burial grounds to the Middletown Cemetery. The Catharine Vail w/o a > Stephen > > Vail, in the Middletown Cemetery, did not die in 1819 as generally > reported > > but actually 1849- the stone is difficult to read but online genealogies > > reinforce this belief. I have tried to use online genealogies from > > rootsweb.com to try to track possible burials for this cemetery. > > > > Also note that the "Riverside" burial ground was "destroyed" by flooding > > well before the historic 1913 flooding. > > > > Supposedly there were many Revolutionary War Veterans buried in the > > "Riverside" burial ground as the Middletown Cemetery is the resting place > > for only 2 Rev. War Vets > > > > Any help/ speculation would be appreciated. thanks- > > > > Caroline Huppi > > www.rootsweb.com/~ohmidcem > > www.rootsweb.com/~ohbutcem > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.22/739 - Release Date: 3/29/2007 1:36 PM > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. 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Carolyn, :O) The one I'm looking for would be my ggg grandfather who was found scalped. This was very early. Considering I'm in my sixties, that would have been "back there". I'll see what I can find on the link you sent and I do appreciate it. At the time I went to high school in Hamilton, I never had a clue my family had been in that area. Shirley ----- Original Message ----- From: Caroline Huppi To: ohbutler@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown Shirley, It is unlikely there are any Hinkles in the Riverside Cemtery as there is only 1 Hinkle in the Middletown Cemetery listed as death in 1901 much later than the "Riverside" time frame. You might want to go through all the cemeteries at www.rootsweb.com/~ohbutcem to find Hinkles. There are a handful in Madison township in the Elk Creek Cemetery. Until I'm a lot smarter there will not be a global search on this website. good luck- Caroline Huppi ----- Original Message ----- From: "shirley pearson" <unicorn1945@sbcglobal.net> To: <ohbutler@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 3:38 AM Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown > I've not followed this conversation so forgive me if I'm asking about something already answered. Are there records for this cemetery? I'm looking for the old burials of any Hinkles - any spelling. > Shirley > Indiana > > Richard Martin <remartin@worldnet.att.net> wrote: > Caroline, > > I have tried to research that same information off and on a couple of times > in the past but found no definitive documentation. I'm looking for the > burial location of the father of my GG Grandfather James G. Martin born 1810 > in Butler Co, OH. I would be very interested if you locate any proof of > Martin's buried in that cemetery. > > Possible first name of his father would be William if James G. Martin > followed the Scottish practice of naming his second son after his father and > his first son Levi after his wife's father which he did. His first daughter > was Amelia which should have been the name of Williams' wife and James' > mother. He named his second daughter Sarah which was his mother in-laws name > so he followed the naming pattern with Levi and Sarah in those cases. > > Some associated facts: > > In earlier research (20 years ago)I thought that Jonathan L. Martin was the > father of James G. Martin because he had a son James C. Martin and daughter > Sarah and he was also of a Scottish line and for a multitude of other > reasons and associated facts to numerous to go into here. I do think the > families are distantly related but James father was born in Scotland and his > mother born in Ohio where as Jonathan's had been here for several > generations in Va. Some more current research of associated families in > Bulter Co., OH leads me to believe a William Martin was the father of James > G. Martin. > > A book titled Buckeye Presbyterianism records the minutes of an Oct 7, 1808 > meeting in which James Scott was sent off by the Lancaster Presbytery to > western Ohio. This Licentiate Rev. James Scott was first at Fredericktown. > He is recorded as a Canonsburg Man a town in Western PA. Many members of > this western PA Presbyterian Congregation moved together following Scott to > Butler Co. > > In the 1800 Census of the County of Washington, PA is a William Martin and > John Martin next door to each other. Close neighbors are Alexander Reed, > James Reed, and John Scott. > > There is a gedcom file showing a John Scott b 1728 Scotland / Ireland d > 1810 Butler Co., OH with a son b 12 Feb 1771 PA d 19 May 1857 Butler Co., > OH. > > 1810 Tax Records for Butler, Co., OH shows both James Scott and John Scott > with property at R2,T5 Sec. 25. > William Martin R2, T5, Sec.23. > > In the Miami Co., OH 1835 Census James G. Martin is living seven houses from > James Reed and eight houses from Asa Scott. This is in Casstown, Miami Co., > OH > > If you find any burial listings tied to these families it may indicate > members of that congregation were buried on the bluff over looking the > river. > > Richard Martin > remartin@worldnet.att.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: ohbutler-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohbutler-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Caroline Huppi > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 2:05 PM > To: OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown > > Does anyone have a list or even a speculation as to who was buried in the > original Middletown Burial ground along a bluff of the Great Miami River? > > I am working on reconstructing a list of burials for this cemetery to have > online with the Middletown Cemeteries. There is no indication from the > Middletown Cemetery records that burials were moved from the "Riverside" > burial grounds to the Middletown Cemetery. The Catharine Vail w/o a Stephen > Vail, in the Middletown Cemetery, did not die in 1819 as generally reported > but actually 1849- the stone is difficult to read but online genealogies > reinforce this belief. I have tried to use online genealogies from > rootsweb.com to try to track possible burials for this cemetery. > > Also note that the "Riverside" burial ground was "destroyed" by flooding > well before the historic 1913 flooding. > > Supposedly there were many Revolutionary War Veterans buried in the > "Riverside" burial ground as the Middletown Cemetery is the resting place > for only 2 Rev. War Vets > > Any help/ speculation would be appreciated. thanks- > > Caroline Huppi > www.rootsweb.com/~ohmidcem > www.rootsweb.com/~ohbutcem > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. 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Shirley, It is unlikely there are any Hinkles in the Riverside Cemtery as there is only 1 Hinkle in the Middletown Cemetery listed as death in 1901 much later than the "Riverside" time frame. You might want to go through all the cemeteries at www.rootsweb.com/~ohbutcem to find Hinkles. There are a handful in Madison township in the Elk Creek Cemetery. Until I'm a lot smarter there will not be a global search on this website. good luck- Caroline Huppi ----- Original Message ----- From: "shirley pearson" <unicorn1945@sbcglobal.net> To: <ohbutler@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 3:38 AM Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown > I've not followed this conversation so forgive me if I'm asking about something already answered. Are there records for this cemetery? I'm looking for the old burials of any Hinkles - any spelling. > Shirley > Indiana > > Richard Martin <remartin@worldnet.att.net> wrote: > Caroline, > > I have tried to research that same information off and on a couple of times > in the past but found no definitive documentation. I'm looking for the > burial location of the father of my GG Grandfather James G. Martin born 1810 > in Butler Co, OH. I would be very interested if you locate any proof of > Martin's buried in that cemetery. > > Possible first name of his father would be William if James G. Martin > followed the Scottish practice of naming his second son after his father and > his first son Levi after his wife's father which he did. His first daughter > was Amelia which should have been the name of Williams' wife and James' > mother. He named his second daughter Sarah which was his mother in-laws name > so he followed the naming pattern with Levi and Sarah in those cases. > > Some associated facts: > > In earlier research (20 years ago)I thought that Jonathan L. Martin was the > father of James G. Martin because he had a son James C. Martin and daughter > Sarah and he was also of a Scottish line and for a multitude of other > reasons and associated facts to numerous to go into here. I do think the > families are distantly related but James father was born in Scotland and his > mother born in Ohio where as Jonathan's had been here for several > generations in Va. Some more current research of associated families in > Bulter Co., OH leads me to believe a William Martin was the father of James > G. Martin. > > A book titled Buckeye Presbyterianism records the minutes of an Oct 7, 1808 > meeting in which James Scott was sent off by the Lancaster Presbytery to > western Ohio. This Licentiate Rev. James Scott was first at Fredericktown. > He is recorded as a Canonsburg Man a town in Western PA. Many members of > this western PA Presbyterian Congregation moved together following Scott to > Butler Co. > > In the 1800 Census of the County of Washington, PA is a William Martin and > John Martin next door to each other. Close neighbors are Alexander Reed, > James Reed, and John Scott. > > There is a gedcom file showing a John Scott b 1728 Scotland / Ireland d > 1810 Butler Co., OH with a son b 12 Feb 1771 PA d 19 May 1857 Butler Co., > OH. > > 1810 Tax Records for Butler, Co., OH shows both James Scott and John Scott > with property at R2,T5 Sec. 25. > William Martin R2, T5, Sec.23. > > In the Miami Co., OH 1835 Census James G. Martin is living seven houses from > James Reed and eight houses from Asa Scott. This is in Casstown, Miami Co., > OH > > If you find any burial listings tied to these families it may indicate > members of that congregation were buried on the bluff over looking the > river. > > Richard Martin > remartin@worldnet.att.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: ohbutler-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohbutler-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Caroline Huppi > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 2:05 PM > To: OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown > > Does anyone have a list or even a speculation as to who was buried in the > original Middletown Burial ground along a bluff of the Great Miami River? > > I am working on reconstructing a list of burials for this cemetery to have > online with the Middletown Cemeteries. There is no indication from the > Middletown Cemetery records that burials were moved from the "Riverside" > burial grounds to the Middletown Cemetery. The Catharine Vail w/o a Stephen > Vail, in the Middletown Cemetery, did not die in 1819 as generally reported > but actually 1849- the stone is difficult to read but online genealogies > reinforce this belief. I have tried to use online genealogies from > rootsweb.com to try to track possible burials for this cemetery. > > Also note that the "Riverside" burial ground was "destroyed" by flooding > well before the historic 1913 flooding. > > Supposedly there were many Revolutionary War Veterans buried in the > "Riverside" burial ground as the Middletown Cemetery is the resting place > for only 2 Rev. War Vets > > Any help/ speculation would be appreciated. thanks- > > Caroline Huppi > www.rootsweb.com/~ohmidcem > www.rootsweb.com/~ohbutcem > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Richard, It is unlikely that your GG Grandfather James G. Martin born 1810 is buried in the "Riverside" cemetery in Middletown. The "Riverside" Cemetery has no records and was washed mostly away by the 1870's and deffinately by the 1913 flood. The cemetery would have burials from late 1790's-1827. The Middeltown Cemetery began in 1827. Middletown Cemetery records were used to create www.rootsweb.com/~ohmidcem Woodside Cemetery another large local Cemetery began Dec 1891. Death records apparently began around 1867 with "random" death records before that date. The death records are at the records center in Hamilton for early years and at some time kept in Middletown. I do not have the details for death records. The tax records are not of much value without the township reference, though you might look at the land ownership in the 1836 maps available on www.rootsweb.com/~ohbutler. I hope some of this helps- Caroline Huppi Middletown cemetery has the following Martins. The year is the death year and most do not have tombstones since a birth year is not given. MARTIN Charles 1922 EA_SW_L181 MARTIN Charles 1925 EA_SE_L022 MARTIN Frank Potter 1860 Sq06_L03 C 30' MARTIN George 1915 No Data MARTIN Helen L 1989 EA_NW_L161P MARTIN Infant 1940 EA_SE_L003 MARTIN Infant boy 1923 EA_NE_L045 MARTIN Infant boy 1923 EA_SE_L062 MARTIN J P No DATE SAR14_L10 MARTIN Lucy May 1923 EA_SE_L068 MARTIN Mary 1941 EA_SE_L001 MARTIN Mary Olinger 1887 No Data MARTIN Potter No DATE SAR14_L10 MARTIN Rose Mary 1945 No Data MARTIN Rose Mary 1945 EA_SW_L069 MARTIN Sarah 1923 EA_SE_L043 MARTIN Sarah Ann 1843 - 1866 SAR13_L14 MARTIN Theodore R 12th OHIO INF Buried in 1894 SAR14_L10 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Martin" <remartin@worldnet.att.net> To: <ohbutler@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown > Caroline, > > I have tried to research that same information off and on a couple of times > in the past but found no definitive documentation. I'm looking for the > burial location of the father of my GG Grandfather James G. Martin born 1810 > in Butler Co, OH. I would be very interested if you locate any proof of > Martin's buried in that cemetery. > > Possible first name of his father would be William if James G. Martin > followed the Scottish practice of naming his second son after his father and > his first son Levi after his wife's father which he did. His first daughter > was Amelia which should have been the name of Williams' wife and James' > mother. He named his second daughter Sarah which was his mother in-laws name > so he followed the naming pattern with Levi and Sarah in those cases. > > Some associated facts: > > In earlier research (20 years ago)I thought that Jonathan L. Martin was the > father of James G. Martin because he had a son James C. Martin and daughter > Sarah and he was also of a Scottish line and for a multitude of other > reasons and associated facts to numerous to go into here. I do think the > families are distantly related but James father was born in Scotland and his > mother born in Ohio where as Jonathan's had been here for several > generations in Va. Some more current research of associated families in > Bulter Co., OH leads me to believe a William Martin was the father of James > G. Martin. > > A book titled Buckeye Presbyterianism records the minutes of an Oct 7, 1808 > meeting in which James Scott was sent off by the Lancaster Presbytery to > western Ohio. This Licentiate Rev. James Scott was first at Fredericktown. > He is recorded as a Canonsburg Man a town in Western PA. Many members of > this western PA Presbyterian Congregation moved together following Scott to > Butler Co. > > In the 1800 Census of the County of Washington, PA is a William Martin and > John Martin next door to each other. Close neighbors are Alexander Reed, > James Reed, and John Scott. > > There is a gedcom file showing a John Scott b 1728 Scotland / Ireland d > 1810 Butler Co., OH with a son b 12 Feb 1771 PA d 19 May 1857 Butler Co., > OH. > > 1810 Tax Records for Butler, Co., OH shows both James Scott and John Scott > with property at R2,T5 Sec. 25. > William Martin R2, T5, Sec.23. > > In the Miami Co., OH 1835 Census James G. Martin is living seven houses from > James Reed and eight houses from Asa Scott. This is in Casstown, Miami Co., > OH > > If you find any burial listings tied to these families it may indicate > members of that congregation were buried on the bluff over looking the > river. > > Richard Martin > remartin@worldnet.att.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: ohbutler-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohbutler-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Caroline Huppi > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 2:05 PM > To: OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown > > Does anyone have a list or even a speculation as to who was buried in the > original Middletown Burial ground along a bluff of the Great Miami River? > > I am working on reconstructing a list of burials for this cemetery to have > online with the Middletown Cemeteries. There is no indication from the > Middletown Cemetery records that burials were moved from the "Riverside" > burial grounds to the Middletown Cemetery. The Catharine Vail w/o a Stephen > Vail, in the Middletown Cemetery, did not die in 1819 as generally reported > but actually 1849- the stone is difficult to read but online genealogies > reinforce this belief. I have tried to use online genealogies from > rootsweb.com to try to track possible burials for this cemetery. > > Also note that the "Riverside" burial ground was "destroyed" by flooding > well before the historic 1913 flooding. > > Supposedly there were many Revolutionary War Veterans buried in the > "Riverside" burial ground as the Middletown Cemetery is the resting place > for only 2 Rev. War Vets > > Any help/ speculation would be appreciated. thanks- > > Caroline Huppi > www.rootsweb.com/~ohmidcem > www.rootsweb.com/~ohbutcem > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

what about the cemetery that was on Tytus Avenue at Enoch street? I was told that it was covered for a parking lot not sure of the dates but i do have the article about that cemetery somewhere in my cemetery paperwork not sure of dates on it etc Deb ____________________________________________________________________________________ Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html

I've not followed this conversation so forgive me if I'm asking about something already answered. Are there records for this cemetery? I'm looking for the old burials of any Hinkles - any spelling. Shirley Indiana Richard Martin <remartin@worldnet.att.net> wrote: Caroline, I have tried to research that same information off and on a couple of times in the past but found no definitive documentation. I'm looking for the burial location of the father of my GG Grandfather James G. Martin born 1810 in Butler Co, OH. I would be very interested if you locate any proof of Martin's buried in that cemetery. Possible first name of his father would be William if James G. Martin followed the Scottish practice of naming his second son after his father and his first son Levi after his wife's father which he did. His first daughter was Amelia which should have been the name of Williams' wife and James' mother. He named his second daughter Sarah which was his mother in-laws name so he followed the naming pattern with Levi and Sarah in those cases. Some associated facts: In earlier research (20 years ago)I thought that Jonathan L. Martin was the father of James G. Martin because he had a son James C. Martin and daughter Sarah and he was also of a Scottish line and for a multitude of other reasons and associated facts to numerous to go into here. I do think the families are distantly related but James father was born in Scotland and his mother born in Ohio where as Jonathan's had been here for several generations in Va. Some more current research of associated families in Bulter Co., OH leads me to believe a William Martin was the father of James G. Martin. A book titled Buckeye Presbyterianism records the minutes of an Oct 7, 1808 meeting in which James Scott was sent off by the Lancaster Presbytery to western Ohio. This Licentiate Rev. James Scott was first at Fredericktown. He is recorded as a Canonsburg Man a town in Western PA. Many members of this western PA Presbyterian Congregation moved together following Scott to Butler Co. In the 1800 Census of the County of Washington, PA is a William Martin and John Martin next door to each other. Close neighbors are Alexander Reed, James Reed, and John Scott. There is a gedcom file showing a John Scott b 1728 Scotland / Ireland d 1810 Butler Co., OH with a son b 12 Feb 1771 PA d 19 May 1857 Butler Co., OH. 1810 Tax Records for Butler, Co., OH shows both James Scott and John Scott with property at R2,T5 Sec. 25. William Martin R2, T5, Sec.23. In the Miami Co., OH 1835 Census James G. Martin is living seven houses from James Reed and eight houses from Asa Scott. This is in Casstown, Miami Co., OH If you find any burial listings tied to these families it may indicate members of that congregation were buried on the bluff over looking the river. Richard Martin remartin@worldnet.att.net -----Original Message----- From: ohbutler-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohbutler-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Caroline Huppi Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 2:05 PM To: OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown Does anyone have a list or even a speculation as to who was buried in the original Middletown Burial ground along a bluff of the Great Miami River? I am working on reconstructing a list of burials for this cemetery to have online with the Middletown Cemeteries. There is no indication from the Middletown Cemetery records that burials were moved from the "Riverside" burial grounds to the Middletown Cemetery. The Catharine Vail w/o a Stephen Vail, in the Middletown Cemetery, did not die in 1819 as generally reported but actually 1849- the stone is difficult to read but online genealogies reinforce this belief. I have tried to use online genealogies from rootsweb.com to try to track possible burials for this cemetery. Also note that the "Riverside" burial ground was "destroyed" by flooding well before the historic 1913 flooding. Supposedly there were many Revolutionary War Veterans buried in the "Riverside" burial ground as the Middletown Cemetery is the resting place for only 2 Rev. War Vets Any help/ speculation would be appreciated. thanks- Caroline Huppi www.rootsweb.com/~ohmidcem www.rootsweb.com/~ohbutcem ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Caroline, I have tried to research that same information off and on a couple of times in the past but found no definitive documentation. I'm looking for the burial location of the father of my GG Grandfather James G. Martin born 1810 in Butler Co, OH. I would be very interested if you locate any proof of Martin's buried in that cemetery. Possible first name of his father would be William if James G. Martin followed the Scottish practice of naming his second son after his father and his first son Levi after his wife's father which he did. His first daughter was Amelia which should have been the name of Williams' wife and James' mother. He named his second daughter Sarah which was his mother in-laws name so he followed the naming pattern with Levi and Sarah in those cases. Some associated facts: In earlier research (20 years ago)I thought that Jonathan L. Martin was the father of James G. Martin because he had a son James C. Martin and daughter Sarah and he was also of a Scottish line and for a multitude of other reasons and associated facts to numerous to go into here. I do think the families are distantly related but James father was born in Scotland and his mother born in Ohio where as Jonathan's had been here for several generations in Va. Some more current research of associated families in Bulter Co., OH leads me to believe a William Martin was the father of James G. Martin. A book titled Buckeye Presbyterianism records the minutes of an Oct 7, 1808 meeting in which James Scott was sent off by the Lancaster Presbytery to western Ohio. This Licentiate Rev. James Scott was first at Fredericktown. He is recorded as a Canonsburg Man a town in Western PA. Many members of this western PA Presbyterian Congregation moved together following Scott to Butler Co. In the 1800 Census of the County of Washington, PA is a William Martin and John Martin next door to each other. Close neighbors are Alexander Reed, James Reed, and John Scott. There is a gedcom file showing a John Scott b 1728 Scotland / Ireland d 1810 Butler Co., OH with a son b 12 Feb 1771 PA d 19 May 1857 Butler Co., OH. 1810 Tax Records for Butler, Co., OH shows both James Scott and John Scott with property at R2,T5 Sec. 25. William Martin R2, T5, Sec.23. In the Miami Co., OH 1835 Census James G. Martin is living seven houses from James Reed and eight houses from Asa Scott. This is in Casstown, Miami Co., OH If you find any burial listings tied to these families it may indicate members of that congregation were buried on the bluff over looking the river. Richard Martin remartin@worldnet.att.net -----Original Message----- From: ohbutler-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohbutler-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Caroline Huppi Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 2:05 PM To: OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [OHBUTLER] Original Burial Ground Middletown Does anyone have a list or even a speculation as to who was buried in the original Middletown Burial ground along a bluff of the Great Miami River? I am working on reconstructing a list of burials for this cemetery to have online with the Middletown Cemeteries. There is no indication from the Middletown Cemetery records that burials were moved from the "Riverside" burial grounds to the Middletown Cemetery. The Catharine Vail w/o a Stephen Vail, in the Middletown Cemetery, did not die in 1819 as generally reported but actually 1849- the stone is difficult to read but online genealogies reinforce this belief. I have tried to use online genealogies from rootsweb.com to try to track possible burials for this cemetery. Also note that the "Riverside" burial ground was "destroyed" by flooding well before the historic 1913 flooding. Supposedly there were many Revolutionary War Veterans buried in the "Riverside" burial ground as the Middletown Cemetery is the resting place for only 2 Rev. War Vets Any help/ speculation would be appreciated. thanks- Caroline Huppi www.rootsweb.com/~ohmidcem www.rootsweb.com/~ohbutcem ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am looking for the surname of WILLS / WILLIS. My 4th. great grandparents were Jonathan WILLS/WILLIS and wife Hannah DOUGLASS. They had two known children. A son Charles born circa 1829 in Middletown and a daughter { no information on her}.I know she died as a very young child, maybe even before her first birthday. John and Hannah were married in Buttler Co. and their son Charles born in Middletown so, I know the daughter was born there as well. John died by 1832-33. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Kind regards, Sharon sar5r@yahoo.com "One Nation Under God" --------------------------------- Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends.

Does anyone have a list or even a speculation as to who was buried in the original Middletown Burial ground along a bluff of the Great Miami River? I am working on reconstructing a list of burials for this cemetery to have online with the Middletown Cemeteries. There is no indication from the Middletown Cemetery records that burials were moved from the "Riverside" burial grounds to the Middletown Cemetery. The Catharine Vail w/o a Stephen Vail, in the Middletown Cemetery, did not die in 1819 as generally reported but actually 1849- the stone is difficult to read but online genealogies reinforce this belief. I have tried to use online genealogies from rootsweb.com to try to track possible burials for this cemetery. Also note that the "Riverside" burial ground was "destroyed" by flooding well before the historic 1913 flooding. Supposedly there were many Revolutionary War Veterans buried in the "Riverside" burial ground as the Middletown Cemetery is the resting place for only 2 Rev. War Vets Any help/ speculation would be appreciated. thanks- Caroline Huppi www.rootsweb.com/~ohmidcem www.rootsweb.com/~ohbutcem