Betty, I believe that you should be looking at Hamilton County rather than Hamilton Ohio which is in Butler. Sandi -----Original Message----- From: bettie davenport [mailto:bettieboop37@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 1:27 PM To: OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [OHBUTLER-L] Ohio Cemeters Does anyone on the list know where the Hudson cemetery is, in Butler Co.Ohio. I was told it was in Butler Co. but, it is not on the list of cementers for that county that is listed on line. We are looking for the grave of my husbands 4th.G-Grandparents "Gilbert and Lydia McCrea". Gilbert died 7 June 1824, we don't have Lydia's death date but,it is posted as being after 1842. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you, Bettie ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE: Send a message to: OHBUTLER-L-request@rootsweb.com or OHBUTLER-D-request@rootsweb.com Put SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE (whichever you want to do)

Sandi, Thank you so much!!! I just found them, they are in HUSTON Cemetery, NOT HUDSON. Thanks again, Bettie ----- Original Message ----- From: bettie davenport<mailto:bettieboop37@hotmail.com> To: OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 12:28 PM Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER-L] Ohio Cemeters Sandi, Is there a Hudson Cemetery in Hamilton, Co. Someone posted that Gilbert died in Hamilton, Ohio and is buried in Hudson Cemetery in Butler, Ohio. Then someone else posted he is buried in Hamilton, Ohio. I think they all agree, he is buried at Hudson Cem. but, where is Hudson Cem., is the next question. I am so confused, I do thank you Sandi for your help!! sincerely, Bettie Davenport ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Kneer<mailto:bkneer@worldnet.att.net<mailto:bkneer@worldnet.att.net>> To: OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 12:17 PM Subject: RE: [OHBUTLER-L] Ohio Cemeters Betty, I believe that you should be looking at Hamilton County rather than Hamilton Ohio which is in Butler. Sandi -----Original Message----- From: bettie davenport [mailto:bettieboop37@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 1:27 PM To: OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com>> Subject: [OHBUTLER-L] Ohio Cemeters Does anyone on the list know where the Hudson cemetery is, in Butler Co.Ohio. I was told it was in Butler Co. but, it is not on the list of cementers for that county that is listed on line. We are looking for the grave of my husbands 4th.G-Grandparents "Gilbert and Lydia McCrea". Gilbert died 7 June 1824, we don't have Lydia's death date but,it is posted as being after 1842. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you, Bettie ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE: Send a message to: OHBUTLER-L-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHBUTLER-L-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHBUTLER-L-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHBUTLER-L-request@rootsweb.com>> or OHBUTLER-D-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHBUTLER-D-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHBUTLER-D-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHBUTLER-D-request@rootsweb.com>> Put SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE (whichever you want to do) ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== Butler County American History & Genealogy Project http://www.usgennet.org/usa/oh/county/butler<http://www.usgennet.org/usa/oh/county/butler<http://www.usgennet.org/usa/oh/county/butler<http://www.usgennet.org/usa/oh/county/butler>> ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== A History and Biographical Cyclopaedia of Butler County Ohio ~ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohbutler/cyc/index.html<http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohbutler/cyc/index.html>

Sandi, Is there a Hudson Cemetery in Hamilton, Co. Someone posted that Gilbert died in Hamilton, Ohio and is buried in Hudson Cemetery in Butler, Ohio. Then someone else posted he is buried in Hamilton, Ohio. I think they all agree, he is buried at Hudson Cem. but, where is Hudson Cem., is the next question. I am so confused, I do thank you Sandi for your help!! sincerely, Bettie Davenport ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Kneer<mailto:bkneer@worldnet.att.net> To: OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 12:17 PM Subject: RE: [OHBUTLER-L] Ohio Cemeters Betty, I believe that you should be looking at Hamilton County rather than Hamilton Ohio which is in Butler. Sandi -----Original Message----- From: bettie davenport [mailto:bettieboop37@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 1:27 PM To: OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [OHBUTLER-L] Ohio Cemeters Does anyone on the list know where the Hudson cemetery is, in Butler Co.Ohio. I was told it was in Butler Co. but, it is not on the list of cementers for that county that is listed on line. We are looking for the grave of my husbands 4th.G-Grandparents "Gilbert and Lydia McCrea". Gilbert died 7 June 1824, we don't have Lydia's death date but,it is posted as being after 1842. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you, Bettie ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE: Send a message to: OHBUTLER-L-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHBUTLER-L-request@rootsweb.com> or OHBUTLER-D-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHBUTLER-D-request@rootsweb.com> Put SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE (whichever you want to do) ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== Butler County American History & Genealogy Project http://www.usgennet.org/usa/oh/county/butler<http://www.usgennet.org/usa/oh/county/butler>

Does anyone on the list know where the Hudson cemetery is, in Butler Co.Ohio. I was told it was in Butler Co. but, it is not on the list of cementers for that county that is listed on line. We are looking for the grave of my husbands 4th.G-Grandparents "Gilbert and Lydia McCrea". Gilbert died 7 June 1824, we don't have Lydia's death date but,it is posted as being after 1842. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you, Bettie

Does anyone know where there is a HUDSON CEMETERY located in Butler County Ohio? Deb M

FamilySearch has the following: Lewis Garrison Born 11 Oct 1804 Butler, Ohio Father Jonathan Garrison Mother Mary Sykes Sandi Deaton-Kneer Orlando, Fl -----Original Message----- From: BROWN, JAMES [mailto:JAMES.BROWN@tccd.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 8:59 AM To: OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [OHBUTLER-L] Lewis Garrison b. 1804 Butler Co., OH -----Original Message----- From: Bob and Susan REZEK [mailto:rezek1021@msn.com] Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 12:29 AM To: OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [OHBUTLER-L] Lewis Garrison b. 1804 Butler Co., OH I am hoping to discover the parents of Lewis Garrison, born abt 10 Oct 1804 in Butler County, OH. Married Martha "Patsy" Van Horn about 1825 in Butler Co. Moved to Schuyler Co, IL sometime before 1850 when he and Patsy appear in the Oregon Twp., Schuyler Co., IL census with 5 children: Martin A., Daniel, Hannah, Lewis, and DeWitt. If you can identify Martin's parents, I would be so grateful. Susan in Iowa ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE: Send a message to: OHBUTLER-L-request@rootsweb.com or OHBUTLER-D-request@rootsweb.com Put SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE (whichever you want to do) ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE: Send a message to: OHBUTLER-L-request@rootsweb.com or OHBUTLER-D-request@rootsweb.com Put SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE (whichever you want to do)

-----Original Message----- From: Bob and Susan REZEK [mailto:rezek1021@msn.com] Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 12:29 AM To: OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [OHBUTLER-L] Lewis Garrison b. 1804 Butler Co., OH I am hoping to discover the parents of Lewis Garrison, born abt 10 Oct 1804 in Butler County, OH. Married Martha "Patsy" Van Horn about 1825 in Butler Co. Moved to Schuyler Co, IL sometime before 1850 when he and Patsy appear in the Oregon Twp., Schuyler Co., IL census with 5 children: Martin A., Daniel, Hannah, Lewis, and DeWitt. If you can identify Martin's parents, I would be so grateful. Susan in Iowa ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE: Send a message to: OHBUTLER-L-request@rootsweb.com or OHBUTLER-D-request@rootsweb.com Put SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE (whichever you want to do)

I am hoping to discover the parents of Lewis Garrison, born abt 10 Oct 1804 in Butler County, OH. Married Martha "Patsy" Van Horn about 1825 in Butler Co. Moved to Schuyler Co, IL sometime before 1850 when he and Patsy appear in the Oregon Twp., Schuyler Co., IL census with 5 children: Martin A., Daniel, Hannah, Lewis, and DeWitt. If you can identify Martin's parents, I would be so grateful. Susan in Iowa

Hello all; I am trying to locate my ancestors who were living in Butler Co. from circa 1820 on. It looks like the DOUGLASS family all stem from George DOUGLASS and Sini ASHTON. My 3rd. great grandmother was Hannah DOUGLASS and she was born circa 1809 in PA. she married Jonathan WILLS 2, March 1829 in Middletown, Butler Co. OH. I know they had a daughter born circa 1831 but, she either died at birth or shortly after and I would really like to know if this child had a name and was buried in Butler Co. Also to this marriage was a son, Charles WILLS, born 1, December 1829 in Middletown and he moved to Frankfort, Indiana when he was a very young boy, You see, John and Hannah bought a farm in Clinton Co. Indiana and this is where John died of dropsy circa 1832. I would appreciate any help on either the WILLS or DOUGLASS ancestors. They are hiding real good, somewhere in Butler Co. Kind regards, Sharon sar5r@yahoo.com "One Nation Under God" --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.

I saw this on the Journal News website and thought it might be of interest to those of you have been researching the Dill surname in Hamilton, Ohio. Sandi Deaton-Kneer Orlando, FL DILL, Alice Irene Age 88 of Greenfield, OH formerly of Lebanon, OH. died Monday, March 6, 2006 in Greenfield. Survived by her husband of 70 years, Russell B. Dill; daughter, Norma Jean (Don) Anderson, Greenfield; son, Richard (Judith) Dill, Johnstown, PA; daughter-in-law, Phyllis Dill of Lebanon; eight grandchildren, eleven great-grandchildren, three great-great-grandchildren; sister, Violet (Tom) DeHart, Franklin, OH. A graveside service will be held at 2:00 p.m. Thursday, March 9, 2006 at Fellowship Cemetery, Columbia Road, Warren County, OH. Friends may call at Anderson-Strueve Funeral Home, Greenfield 4-8:00 p.m. Wednesday. Published in The Western Star from 3/9/2006 - 3/16/2006

Hey, Sandi, Thanks for this newspaper item. I will keep it for my records. Barbara (Dill) Noble Bob Kneer <bkneer@worldnet.att.net> wrote: I saw this on the Journal News website and thought it might be of interest to those of you have been researching the Dill surname in Hamilton, Ohio. Sandi Deaton-Kneer Orlando, FL DILL, Alice Irene Age 88 of Greenfield, OH formerly of Lebanon, OH. died Monday, March 6, 2006 in Greenfield. Survived by her husband of 70 years, Russell B. Dill; daughter, Norma Jean (Don) Anderson, Greenfield; son, Richard (Judith) Dill, Johnstown, PA; daughter-in-law, Phyllis Dill of Lebanon; eight grandchildren, eleven great-grandchildren, three great-great-grandchildren; sister, Violet (Tom) DeHart, Franklin, OH. A graveside service will be held at 2:00 p.m. Thursday, March 9, 2006 at Fellowship Cemetery, Columbia Road, Warren County, OH. Friends may call at Anderson-Strueve Funeral Home, Greenfield 4-8:00 p.m. Wednesday. Published in The Western Star from 3/9/2006 - 3/16/2006 ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== Butler County Archives and Records Center - http://www.butlercountyohio.org/records/

Thank you, Sandi. I already have a copy of this census record; however, I greatly appreciate your time and trouble to locate it for me. It sure does look more and more like Charles was the son of Margaret, rather than Ann. Don't you love these mysteries? Barbara in Indiana Bob Kneer <bkneer@worldnet.att.net> wrote: Barbara, I found a Margaret Dill in the Hamilton County Ohio Census for 1870. 1870 census Crosby Twp Hamilton County Ohio Groesbeck Page 26 Amos age 58 Margaret age 33 Charles age 10 Sandi Deaton-Kneer Orlando, FL -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Noble [mailto:barbaranoble@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 8:44 PM To: OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER-L] Re: Dills Your analogy of these records are just what Gale Wallen (another researcher on Charles Dill in Illinois) and I have deduced. I was trying to find more information on Margaret Dill today, like who she married, when she died, etc., but I don't have access to census records. I suspect that either Margaret had Charles out of wedlock (since she was old enough) or Matthew had gotten some girl pregnant and his mother adopted the boy. Yes, we need to find some birth and/or marriage records, I guess. Any ideas of where to start, Ann? Appreciate your help immensely, Barbara in Indiana Ann Trimmer wrote: If you use the 1850 Green Twp, Hamilton Co census with John D Dill 44 Ann 39 Cort A 15 Margt 13 Mathew 11 Elias F 7 and the one I just found 1860 Crosby Twp, Hamilton Co OH p452 Mathew Dill 21 Famer OH Anna Dill 47 House work OH Margaret Dill 23 House work OH Elias Dill 17 Farm Laborer OH Samuel Pesline 6 then John was dead by the time Charles was born in July 1861, as well as dead by June 1860. This does make it harder for Ann and John to have been Charles parents. This makes it look way more like Margaret was Charles's maybe, unwed mother and he was then adopted by his grandmother. I don't even want to start in on who the heck Samuel Pesline was! I'd say much of this can be cleared up by looking at some vital records! Ann ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== Butler County American History & Genealogy Project http://www.usgennet.org/usa/oh/county/butler ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== Butler County Archives and Records Center - http://www.butlercountyohio.org/records/ ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== Butler County OHGenWeb genealogy site ~ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohbutler

Ahh, your notes are very good, Gale. However, you might want to make one correction for Charles and Jennie's son, Karl, who was born in LA instead of IN. I found an old note from Sally Chrisman who surmised that Charles was the son of Margaret Dill. Gale, if push comes to shove, could we postpone our trip until the end of July or beginning of August? I need to try to get some temporary job assignments pretty soon, and try to work until the end of June. The first weekend in July is our 3-day District Convention of Jehovah's Witnesses in Dayton, OH, so that will cost me for a hotel stay, meals, gasoline, etc. August would also give me more time to get all my genealogy records organized. I am working on these records all of today and tomorrow, Wednesday afternoon, Thursday and all day Friday. Let me know if this would work for you By the way, whenever we go to Hamilton, OH, perhaps we should stop and meet Sally Chrisman and her husband in Butler County. Apparently they still have a lot of information and notes on our Dill family that she has not given us. What do you think? Take care, Barbara EdwardWallen <edwall@ccaonline.com> wrote: Hello, Since Charles Dill was my husband's great grandfather and Charles' daughter, Lulu Dill Wallen was my husband's grandmother, and since I've been working on these Hamilton>Butler families off and on for years, here's my two cents! From the census data, 1870 Charles - age 10 - first listed in a census . with Ann 58, and Margaret 33- Crosby Twp. Hamilton Co 1880 Charles - age 20 - listed with Ann 68, Mathew 41, Mary 35, in Crosby Twp. Hamilton Co. 1893 Charles E. Dill married Jennie Frazee 10 July in Hamilton County OH. 1900 Charles E. b. July 1861, (married 7 yrs.) listed with Jennie B. Nov. 1874, Lula A. July 1894, Cecelia Jan 1896, Chelce Feb. 1898, LeRoy April 1900 in Harrison Twp. Hamilton Co. OH 1903 Charles and Jennie's son Karl born in Indiana (Harrison is pretty much on the IN line) 1910 Charles is deceased Jennie and their 5 children are in Hamilton, Butler Co. OH Although there is no 1890 census, the 12 1/2 yr. "leap of faith" claiming Charles of the 1880 Hamilton Co. Census with Ann as the same Charles who married Jennie Frazee (d/o Noah, grand d/o Jonas) in Hamilton Co. was not done lightly. After looking at all the other Dill families in Hamilton and the surrounding counties, there were NO other Charles Dills who were of the same age who could have married Jennie Frazee in 1893. It is, however possible that an unattached, Dill male named Charles wandered into the county prior to the marriage. Although listed in the census as Ann's son, evidence suggests he did not belong to Ann and John Dill but was a grandson instead. Parents for Charles - who was conceived in Oct 1860 NOT John Dill - he was dead or gone by 1855 NOT Godfrey Morgan - Ann married him and divorced him in 1858/59 NOT Likely Ann Dill - no husband in 1860 when Ann was 48.. Life was hard on a very small piece of land and 48 was old for women in 1860. Personally, I find it hard to believe that a widowed, divorced, woman of 48 in 1860 would have gotten pregnant out of marriage - but it's possible. However, in a lengthy Civil War Pension application (made on her son, Elias) Ann listed all of her children and their conditions at the time explaining why they were unable to support her financially. NO mention was made of Charles. NOT Elias F. Dill - stated in Civil War pension application by Ann - he had no wife or children NOT Likely Uriah Dill He and 1st wife Rebecca had only one child - Rebecca stated in the 1900 census that she had only had one child with 0 living. In the 1880 she is listed with 19 yr. old son, Nathaniel Dill. However, something caused the marriage to end in divorce. Mathew (listed in the 1860) age 21, with Anna 47, Margaret 23, Elias 17, and Samuel Testine/Pestine/Destine 6, could have married and fathered Charles in the months after the census or could have fathered Charles without being married between the census and Oct. 1860. Margaret (listed with her mother and brothers in the 1860) could have been Charles' mother - some time between 1860 and 1870, Margaret married Conover and became a widow by 1870. Gale ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Noble" To: Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER-L] HAMILT/BUTLER Cos./Dills/Additional Info > You're right, Ann. Ann Dill could have been the mother of Charles. Recently I saw something on TV stating that years ago, women in their 50s were still having children. > > I've had a suspicion all along, though, that Margaret could have had an illegitimate child but I haven't been able to confirm that yet. > > More later, > Barbara in Indiana > > Ann Trimmer wrote: > Why couldn't Ann Dill be the mother of Charles? Lots of women have > given birth at the age of 48. > > It is always possible however, that Margaret was the unwed mother of > Charles who was then adopted by Ann and then listed as a son. I have > seen that happen too. > > > > ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== > To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE: Send a message to: > OHBUTLER-L-request@rootsweb.com or OHBUTLER-D-request@rootsweb.com > Put SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE (whichever you want to do) > > > > > ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== > Search for surnames in the 1882 History of Butler County ~ > http://surhelp-bin.rootsweb.com/surindx.pl?site=OHBUTLER > ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== Butler County OHGenWeb genealogy site ~ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohbutler

Hi Sabrina" You wrote: <if you are looking for a Hirsch in PA i would look in Northtumberland Co. There were many of them in that area. Hirsch could also be spell Hursh there is approx. 23 variations of this last name. There was Stephen the father of a group with his two sons John and Martin and daughter Catherine. I don't know the mother's name. I have more information on Martin's line> Thanks for the reminder. I was looking in Northumberland some years ago but not for Hirschs at the time. Best Wishes, Don Longacre, nw2v@geneseeit.com WNY

Hello, Since Charles Dill was my husband's great grandfather and Charles' daughter, Lulu Dill Wallen was my husband's grandmother, and since I've been working on these Hamilton>Butler families off and on for years, here's my two cents! From the census data, 1870 Charles - age 10 - first listed in a census . with Ann 58, and Margaret 33- Crosby Twp. Hamilton Co 1880 Charles - age 20 - listed with Ann 68, Mathew 41, Mary 35, in Crosby Twp. Hamilton Co. 1893 Charles E. Dill married Jennie Frazee 10 July in Hamilton County OH. 1900 Charles E. b. July 1861, (married 7 yrs.) listed with Jennie B. Nov. 1874, Lula A. July 1894, Cecelia Jan 1896, Chelce Feb. 1898, LeRoy April 1900 in Harrison Twp. Hamilton Co. OH 1903 Charles and Jennie's son Karl born in Indiana (Harrison is pretty much on the IN line) 1910 Charles is deceased Jennie and their 5 children are in Hamilton, Butler Co. OH Although there is no 1890 census, the 12 1/2 yr. "leap of faith" claiming Charles of the 1880 Hamilton Co. Census with Ann as the same Charles who married Jennie Frazee (d/o Noah, grand d/o Jonas) in Hamilton Co. was not done lightly. After looking at all the other Dill families in Hamilton and the surrounding counties, there were NO other Charles Dills who were of the same age who could have married Jennie Frazee in 1893. It is, however possible that an unattached, Dill male named Charles wandered into the county prior to the marriage. Although listed in the census as Ann's son, evidence suggests he did not belong to Ann and John Dill but was a grandson instead. Parents for Charles - who was conceived in Oct 1860 NOT John Dill - he was dead or gone by 1855 NOT Godfrey Morgan - Ann married him and divorced him in 1858/59 NOT Likely Ann Dill - no husband in 1860 when Ann was 48.. Life was hard on a very small piece of land and 48 was old for women in 1860. Personally, I find it hard to believe that a widowed, divorced, woman of 48 in 1860 would have gotten pregnant out of marriage - but it's possible. However, in a lengthy Civil War Pension application (made on her son, Elias) Ann listed all of her children and their conditions at the time explaining why they were unable to support her financially. NO mention was made of Charles. NOT Elias F. Dill - stated in Civil War pension application by Ann - he had no wife or children NOT Likely Uriah Dill He and 1st wife Rebecca had only one child - Rebecca stated in the 1900 census that she had only had one child with 0 living. In the 1880 she is listed with 19 yr. old son, Nathaniel Dill. However, something caused the marriage to end in divorce. Mathew (listed in the 1860) age 21, with Anna 47, Margaret 23, Elias 17, and Samuel Testine/Pestine/Destine 6, could have married and fathered Charles in the months after the census or could have fathered Charles without being married between the census and Oct. 1860. Margaret (listed with her mother and brothers in the 1860) could have been Charles' mother - some time between 1860 and 1870, Margaret married Conover and became a widow by 1870. Gale ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Noble" <barbaranoble@sbcglobal.net> To: <OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER-L] HAMILT/BUTLER Cos./Dills/Additional Info > You're right, Ann. Ann Dill could have been the mother of Charles. Recently I saw something on TV stating that years ago, women in their 50s were still having children. > > I've had a suspicion all along, though, that Margaret could have had an illegitimate child but I haven't been able to confirm that yet. > > More later, > Barbara in Indiana > > Ann Trimmer <ann@trimmer.net> wrote: > Why couldn't Ann Dill be the mother of Charles? Lots of women have > given birth at the age of 48. > > It is always possible however, that Margaret was the unwed mother of > Charles who was then adopted by Ann and then listed as a son. I have > seen that happen too. > > > > ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== > To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE: Send a message to: > OHBUTLER-L-request@rootsweb.com or OHBUTLER-D-request@rootsweb.com > Put SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE (whichever you want to do) > > > > > ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== > Search for surnames in the 1882 History of Butler County ~ > http://surhelp-bin.rootsweb.com/surindx.pl?site=OHBUTLER >

The thunder is close so the lightening is closer- got to get this out to you all. Re: Preservation of the Woodmansee Sugar Valley Cemetery, Liberty Township The Woodmansee Sugar Valley Cemetery will be surrounded by new homes in the near future. The tombstones need to be located, repaired, righted and the cemetery needs to be made mowable. The work plans for 2006 will continue to be the 1st and 3rd Saturday mornings 8AM-12PM. Consider coming out to work even for a couple of hours to learn some of what it takes to keep the old cemeteries looking like cemeteries. 2006 Dates: April1 & 15 May 6 & 20 Jun 3 & 17 July 15 only - skipping around July 4th Aug 5 & 19 Sep 16 only - skipping Labor day weekend Oct 7 & 21 Call or email Caroline Huppi (513-779-8740) chuppi@cinci.rr.com for more information. Thank-you to all spreading the word and spending some time in the cemetery- Caroline PS Maps and historical information about the cemetery at Woodmansee Cemetery You can get to the general site from the Butler County page under "Cemeteries" http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohbutler/ , or Cemetery Tombstone Inventories

To: Interested Butler County Residents or those interested in local cemetery preservation Re: Preservation of the Woodmansee Sugar Valley Cemetery, Liberty Township The Woodmansee Sugar Valley Cemetery will be surrounded by new homes in the near future. The tombstones need to be located, repaired, righted and the cemetery needs to be made mowable. The work plans for 2006 will continue to be the 1st and 3rd Saturday mornings 8AM-12PM. Consider coming out to work even for a couple of hours to learn some of what it takes to keep the old cemeteries looking like cemeteries. 2006 Dates: April1 & 15 May 6 & 20 Jun 3 & 17 July 15 only - skipping around July 4th Aug 5 & 19 Sep 16 only - skipping Labor day weekend Oct 7 & 21 Call or email Caroline Huppi (513-779-8740) chuppi@cinci.rr.com for more information. Thank-you to all spreading the word and spending some time in the cemetery- Caroline PS Maps and historical information about the cemetery at Woodmansee Cemetery You can get to the general site from the Butler County page under "Cemeteries" http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohbutler/ , or Cemetery Tombstone Inventories

To: One-room School House Enthusiasts Liberty Township Historical Society in conjunction with the Liberty Township Garden Club will have an Open House and plant sale at the Hughes School, on 5994 Princeton Road, May 6, 2006, 10-2PM. Map Bring in Old Photos of Liberty Township to scan and possibly use in future Historical Society projects. History on the Hughes School is available in a variety of locations online. Jim Blount at the Lane Library has a description under "Hughes School" at http://www.lanepl.org/Blount/jbplaces/ Liberty Township Historical Society has some pictures. Come by, see the school and pick up some great plant starts or annual flats. Caroline Huppi (513)779-8740 chuppi@cinci.rr.com

Sorry. It should read Ann age 58 not Amos -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Noble [mailto:barbaranoble@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 8:44 PM To: OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER-L] Re: Dills Your analogy of these records are just what Gale Wallen (another researcher on Charles Dill in Illinois) and I have deduced. I was trying to find more information on Margaret Dill today, like who she married, when she died, etc., but I don't have access to census records. I suspect that either Margaret had Charles out of wedlock (since she was old enough) or Matthew had gotten some girl pregnant and his mother adopted the boy. Yes, we need to find some birth and/or marriage records, I guess. Any ideas of where to start, Ann? Appreciate your help immensely, Barbara in Indiana Ann Trimmer <ann@trimmer.net> wrote: If you use the 1850 Green Twp, Hamilton Co census with John D Dill 44 Ann 39 Cort A 15 Margt 13 Mathew 11 Elias F 7 and the one I just found 1860 Crosby Twp, Hamilton Co OH p452 Mathew Dill 21 Famer OH Anna Dill 47 House work OH Margaret Dill 23 House work OH Elias Dill 17 Farm Laborer OH Samuel Pesline 6 then John was dead by the time Charles was born in July 1861, as well as dead by June 1860. This does make it harder for Ann and John to have been Charles parents. This makes it look way more like Margaret was Charles's maybe, unwed mother and he was then adopted by his grandmother. I don't even want to start in on who the heck Samuel Pesline was! I'd say much of this can be cleared up by looking at some vital records! Ann ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== Butler County American History & Genealogy Project http://www.usgennet.org/usa/oh/county/butler ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== Butler County Archives and Records Center - http://www.butlercountyohio.org/records/

Barbara, I found a Margaret Dill in the Hamilton County Ohio Census for 1870. 1870 census Crosby Twp Hamilton County Ohio Groesbeck Page 26 Amos age 58 Margaret age 33 Charles age 10 Sandi Deaton-Kneer Orlando, FL -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Noble [mailto:barbaranoble@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 8:44 PM To: OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER-L] Re: Dills Your analogy of these records are just what Gale Wallen (another researcher on Charles Dill in Illinois) and I have deduced. I was trying to find more information on Margaret Dill today, like who she married, when she died, etc., but I don't have access to census records. I suspect that either Margaret had Charles out of wedlock (since she was old enough) or Matthew had gotten some girl pregnant and his mother adopted the boy. Yes, we need to find some birth and/or marriage records, I guess. Any ideas of where to start, Ann? Appreciate your help immensely, Barbara in Indiana Ann Trimmer <ann@trimmer.net> wrote: If you use the 1850 Green Twp, Hamilton Co census with John D Dill 44 Ann 39 Cort A 15 Margt 13 Mathew 11 Elias F 7 and the one I just found 1860 Crosby Twp, Hamilton Co OH p452 Mathew Dill 21 Famer OH Anna Dill 47 House work OH Margaret Dill 23 House work OH Elias Dill 17 Farm Laborer OH Samuel Pesline 6 then John was dead by the time Charles was born in July 1861, as well as dead by June 1860. This does make it harder for Ann and John to have been Charles parents. This makes it look way more like Margaret was Charles's maybe, unwed mother and he was then adopted by his grandmother. I don't even want to start in on who the heck Samuel Pesline was! I'd say much of this can be cleared up by looking at some vital records! Ann ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== Butler County American History & Genealogy Project http://www.usgennet.org/usa/oh/county/butler ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== Butler County Archives and Records Center - http://www.butlercountyohio.org/records/