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    1. Re: [OHBUTLER-L] Ancestry.com changes
    2. Ronald Colby
    3. I find this statement interesting, what of your information are they getting for free and putting on a CD? "I do see they are trying to get more of your information for free and then they can burn it to a CD and get people to buy it. After buying a few of their CD's I quit. The information on the CD's is not complete and is only partial." Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: <JMINI22977@aol.com> To: <OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER-L] Ancestry.com changes Hi Listers, I see no change on Ancestry.com. I have been a member for about 10 years. You can contact Ancestry.com online or call on the 800 #. I agree about searches. You can still search and find what you want but they give too many option s. You can search through 3000 names and find nothing. I do see they are trying to get more of your information for free and then they can burn it to a CD and get people to buy it. After buying a few of their CD's I quit. The information on the CD's is not complete and is only partial. But without Ancestry.com I would not have found my relatives. So am very thankful. One more thing I have sent them a complaint about a missing census image from 1880, twice and they still have not corrected it. So weigh the good and the bad and let them know. Take care, Judy Minihan ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== Butler County American History & Genealogy Project http://www.usgennet.org/usa/oh/county/butler

    07/28/2006 06:35:25
    1. Re: [OHBUTLER-L] Ancestry.com changes
    2. Ronald Colby
    3. Yes, complain I did. why these companies have to try and fix things when they ain't broke Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda R. Sorrell" <lsorrell@cinci.rr.com> To: <OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 11:53 AM Subject: RE: [OHBUTLER-L] Ancestry.com changes I found the same thing. Perhaps we should complain. > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Kneer [mailto:bkneer@worldnet.att.net] > Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 1:44 PM > To: OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [OHBUTLER-L] Ancestry.com changes > > I am interested in speaking with anyone who currently has a > subscription with ancestry.com. > > > > I have been a subscriber for years and always found it to be > helpful, however, they have changed the website this week > making it every difficult to do searches without going > through page after page within a category. > > > > It used to be an easy search, type in the name and a recap > would be shown listing categories that records were in. You > could then pick and choose what you wanted to view. Now you > have to pick the category and go through page after page. > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > Sandi > > Orlando, FL > > > > ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== > Butler County OHGenWeb genealogy site ~ > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohbutler > ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE: Send a message to: OHBUTLER-L-request@rootsweb.com or OHBUTLER-D-request@rootsweb.com Put SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE (whichever you want to do)

    07/28/2006 06:25:54
    1. Re: [OHBUTLER-L] Obituary of Raymond MULLINS
    2. Norma Adams
    3. Hi, I'm not Redbird but I found the obit online at: http://web.archive.org/web/20011023024601/http://www.middletown.com/obits/obituary.htm Raymond Mullins Raymond Mullins, 89, formerly of Hamilton, currently residing in Garden Manor Nursing Home, died there Friday, March 9, 2001. He was born in Jackson, Ky., on May 29, 1911, the son of James and Charlene (Farmer) Mullins and was a graduate of Hamilton High School. Mr. Mullins served in the U.S. Army during World War II. He was preceded in death by his wife Helen in 1986. He was a milk salesman for Wehr and Meyer Dairy and later worked in maintenance at Hamilton City Schools. He was a member of the American Legion. Survivors include a son, William, and wife Susan Mullins, of Dublin; a daughter, Judith Mullins of Louisville, Ky.; a stepson, Moody Davis of Rogersville, Texas; three grandchildren, Elizabeth Mullins of Austin, Texas, and Stephen Davis and Lisa Sherman, both of California. ARRANGEMENTS: Funeral services will be held at 2 p.m. Tuesday in the Proeschel-Crawford-Zettler Funeral Home, 547 Main St., Hamilton, with the Rev. Larry De Lozier officiating, followed by burial in Rosehill Burial Park. Visitation will be from 6 to 8 p.m. Monday at the funeral home. Norma At 09:50 AM 7/27/2006 -0400, you wrote: >I would appreciate the copy of the following obituary from Redbird. >MULLINS, Raymond; 89; Hamilton OH; Hamilton J-N; 2001-3-11; redbird >I believe he was the step brother of my Uncle Dennis Amyx. >Thanks >Joyce > >Joyce > > > >==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== >Butler County American History & Genealogy Project >http://www.usgennet.org/usa/oh/county/butler

    07/27/2006 03:53:59
    1. Obituary of Raymond MULLINS
    2. I would appreciate the copy of the following obituary from Redbird. MULLINS, Raymond; 89; Hamilton OH; Hamilton J-N; 2001-3-11; redbird I believe he was the step brother of my Uncle Dennis Amyx. Thanks Joyce Joyce

    07/27/2006 03:50:51
    1. Jane Kincaid Neilan obit
    2. March 4, 1904 Mrs. John F. Neilan Passes To Her Rest Death ends her long and trying illness Had been Confined to her home since October Her last hours were unconscious and she passed quietly into her final sleep-Many will mourn her death. Jane Wilson Neilan, beloved wife of Judge John F. Neilan died at her home at 335 East Wood Street, at 1020 o'clock, this forenoon after a lingering illness, in the 55th year of her age. She had been confined to her room since last October and with the exception of brief intervals continued to steadily decline in health. She was given the best of medical care and attention and was constantly surrounded with the tenderest of loving ministrations but it gradually became apparent that the end was inevitablbly approaching and grief became doubly great in the certainty of impending bereavement and the fruitlessness of hope. Early last Saturday morning Mrs. Neilan became unconscious and her death ensued today, ending the sufferings that she had long so bravely borue in the peace and quietude of painless, dreamless sleep. While many in this city and county were appraised of the gravity of her condition the news of her death occasioned the sincerest expressions of sympathy and sorrow. Jane Wilson Kincaid Neilan was a daughter of Jackson Kincaid, a virginian, by birth and Isabella Hill, a daughter of Robert Hill, who was a pioneer settler of Millville and for years a postmaster and justice of the peace in the village. Mrs. Neilan was born in Carroll County, Indiana near Delphi and came to Millville when she was 12 years old. She was educated in the village schools and continued to reside in Millville until her marriage to Judge Neilan in this city, June 21, 1874, the Rev. Father Hone, a former and well beloved pastor of St. Mary's church officiating at the ceremony. After her marriage she resided with her husband in this city until called away today. Of the union six children were born: Thomas K. and William H.Neilan, who died in infancy and Mary, John F. Neilan jr., Jane and Robert H. Neilan was living at home. Mrs. Neilan was largely related to many in this county and to the descendents of the older families who like her parents, came here years ago. She was a woman of rare tact and grace, of winning ways, of fine common sense and she especially happy in her home life wherein she was ever beautiful. She was a devoted member of St. Mary's church and socities and was ever foremost but unostentations in the furtherence of the church work and interests. She was kind and charitable and devoted to the counsels and companionship of her husband. The funeral party will leave the home at 8 a.m Monday for St. Mary's Church where the requiem high mass will be celebrated at 8:30 a.m. The burial will be in St. Mary's cemetery. The pall bearers will be W.J. Coakley, J.F. Heath, C.E. Mason, J.J Pater, Jos. D. Foster, and John F. Hogan of Detroit.

    07/25/2006 08:44:06
    1. John F Neilan obit
    2. The Republican News Hamilton Ohio Wednesday, October 9, 1907 Judge John F. Neilan dies suddenly while sitting with family in the library in his home. Well known lawyer and jurist no more Had been in failing health some time Heart-Stroke resulting from Nausea Fatal- Arose by his own efforts to places of influence and honor- Noted for the vigor of his personality- city shocked by his passing Judge John Francis Neilan died suddenly about 6:30 0'clock yesterday evening at his residence at 335 Wood Street of heart failure in the 62nd year of his age. While it was generally known that he was and had been in very precarious health for some time his death was very unexpected and came as a shock to the community. Some months ago he was taken ill with a complication of heart and kidney affection and his life was dispaired of. A specialist was called from Cincinnati in connection with Dr. Dan Millikin of this city but little encouragement could be held out for any permanent recovery. Although in a very exhausted condition Judge Neilan determined to go to Martinsville and did so, remaining there several weeks. The treatment and the waters had a good effect and upon his return Judge Neilan was considerably improved and was able to resuem the practice of his profession. But his health began to again decling and___ ago he went to Martinsville from whence he returned about a week ago. Yesterday evening he ate supper as usual with his family and with several members of the household he was sitting in his library conversing pleasantly when he was seized with a sever attack of coughing. A physician was hastily called but before his arrival the end had come. The weakened heart failed to longer respond under the violence of the seizure and surrounded by loved ones the once indomitable spirit took its flight. Judge Neilan was on the streets for the last time Saturday when he voted at the primary election. About 1:30 o'clock Sunday morning he was seized with a urameic spasm the effects of which were severe. But they passed away although in his weakened condition Judge Neilan continued to remain at home. Yesterday afternoon he was in good spirits and among his callers was the Rev. Father J.H Hyland. While they were chatting together Judge Neilan's daughter entered and asked her father if he felt like eating anything. He said he believed he would like a little Irish moss. It was prepared and served and Father Hyland laughingly asked Judge Neilan how near he supposed the moss had ever been to Ireland. The Judge smiled and said he presumed it had never been any nearer than the rocky coasts of Massachusetts. And thus they chatted on until Father Hyland took his departure. Judge Neilan ate lightly at supper: but when he was seated in the library something he had partaken of failed to agree with him and his food was ejected. It was this paroxism that affected the heart action and death came finally very quietly while Judge Neilan was still sitting with his hands folded on his lap in his chair. The bar association met at 1:30 0'clock this afternoon to take action on the death. John F. Neilan was born in the County of Roscommon Ireland November 18, 1845. His parents emigrated to the United States in 1838 settling in New Haven Conn. In 1857 they removed to Fayette County, Ohio, where they remained until locating in this county in 1866. Mr. Neilan was born of poor parents and received his education after he was twelve years of age. But he was an ardent student, reading on all subjects, until he became one of the best informed men of the community, possessing a fine and well selected library. Mr. Neilan's early life until he reached his majority was that of a hard-working farmer: and like Tom Corwin, the wagon boy, he determined to secure a more advanced education and he abandoned farm work. With characteristic will power and determination he at once set about to qualify himself for the profession of teaching. In 1866 he took up this work and followed the calling for seven years. Being attracted by the law he took up the study of that profession in the office of Stephen Crane and, in 1874 was admitted to the bar. In the same year he served as editor of the Hamilton Examiner, which ws established for the purpose of purifying Butler County politics. "As a writer," says Stephen Cone in his History of Hamilton, "he weilded a pen that cut as keen as a Damascus blade." Mr. Neilan was elected city solicitor in 1877, and served two terms. In 1879 he was chosen county prosecuting attorney and in 1881 was reelected. It is said that he made an excellent prosecutor, trying and indicting more men for capital punishment and convicting more men than any of his predecessors. He was ever fearless in the discharge of his duties. No grand jury during his term of office ever remained in session longer than one week. He examined from fifty to seventy-five witnesses per day. At the general election held November 3, 1896, Neilan was elected Judge of the Court of Common Pleas for a period of five years. He was well equipped for the high position, being an able lawyer and a polished scholar. He ever had the courage of his convictions and few men are possessed of more determination than was he when once his detemination was formed. Judge Neilan was always a friend of higher education. His friend Gov. Hoadley, adopted him on the board of trustees of Miami University for nine years, on which body he served as a member of the executive committee. Judge Neilan is the founder of the Catholic Knights of Ohio, which is a beneficiary organization, with social and fraternal features attached. He was one of the prime movers in securing for Hamilton the Mercy Hospital. He was a democrat but had liberal political and christian views. Judge Neilan was one of the Committee on arrangements and was very active in connection with the city's centennial celebration in 1891. He was a member of the Butler County Bar Association and for some years was chairman of the democratic county executive committee. He was broad in his charity and stood high in his profession. His death will long be regretted. On June 2, 1874 Judge Neilan was united in marriage to Jane Kincaid, daughter of Jackson Kincaid and Isabel Hill Kincaid, then well known resident of this county. Six children resulted from the union of whom Thomas K and William Neilan died in infancy and four survive, John F. Neilan, junior. Mary E. and Robert Neilan of this city and Mrs. W.O Teague of Boston. Mrs. Neilan died about six years ago and last May Judge Neilan was again married to Mrs. Agnes Neilan of Akron, who in addition to the children above mentioned also survives him. Judge Neilan was a man of an essentially aggressive and pugnacious character coupled with finer traits that elicited the admiration of friend and foe alike. He was outspoken, even to the injury of his own interests and he was strong in his fidelity to his friendships. He was a self made man in every respect. In his young days the guiding star of his life was the achievement of an education and he went through the hard rough toil of the farm to secure it. As a farmer boy he was energetic and industrious and as a school teacher he was a good instructor and disciplinarian and a leading figure in the teacher's institues of those days. With his admission to the bar he devoted all of his energies to his profession saving what was required by his political affiliations and he speedily became a potent factor in democratic counsels. He passed trhough many periods on the political waters and made many enemies but more friends. But he discharged his public duties with ability. His code of life embraced his family, his friends, his religion, his profession and his politics with his duty to the community as a citizen and he lived up to it well. Although he left Irelans when a mere infant Juge Neilan was all his life an ardent Irishmen, He took part in the activities of Irish organizations, and his sympathies with the Island of his birth were so intense that they developed a corresponding hatred of England. He presided at a Boer meeting in thei city after the South African War, and referred to England as the "robber nation of modern times." If he had remained in Ireland it is probable that Judge Neilan would have become an active leader of the opposition to the government. His tasks and interests were broad and often unsuspected. At one time he took a keen interest in arctic exploration and bought many works on the subject. In his judicial career the most important thing that Judge Neilan was ever called upon to dp was to name the Board of Control for Hamilton at the time of the passage of the so called "ripper bill." It developed upon him to name the entire city government which he did. No man at the local bar had a more vivid personality and lawyers tell anecdotes of his experiences by the hundred. Judge Neilan's strong intellect was backed by inclinations and prejudices equally strong. And in consequence he was frequently lead into situations that were unusual, interesting and often amusing. He never hesitated to say what he meant, and some of his friends used to hold that under excitement he was given to sometimes saying more than he meant. In the old days of Democratic factional excitement in this county he wa always in the fight, and many of his speeches are still recalled as models of the Philipple type. In the past 40 years no man has been more closely identified with the acitvities of Butler County. Judge Neilan always took a great interest in the public institutions with which he was connected. His friend Governor Campbell, appointed him trustee of Miami University when Governor and Judge Neilan always took a keen interest in its affairs. Mercy Hospital was always an object of his keenest solicitude, and he was a trusted advisor of its management. Court adjourns in respect to dead judge When the common pleas court convened this afternoon Alllen Andrews formally brought to the knowledge of the court the death of the Hon. John F. Neilan and moved that as a mark of respect the court adjourn. Judge Gard said that he had heard of the death of Judge Neilan with extreme regret and on his motion he adjourned court until Saturday morning at 9 o'clock. The Butler County Bar Association at once met with President R.N Shotts presiding to take action on the death of Judge Neilan. On motion of Ben F. Harwitz, a committee of three consisting of Judge Warren Gard, Judge Clarence Murphy and Judge E.A. Beldon was appointed to prepare and present a suitable memorial. On motion of H.L Krauth a committee consisting of H.L Krauth and Judge Ed H. Jones was appointed to make arrangements for attending the funeral which upon motion of W.C Shepherd the bar association decided to attend in a body. On motion of Judge Gard the hour from 9 until 10 0'clock a.m next Monday was set apart as the time to receive the report of the memorial committee and to afford an opportunity for such other tributes as might be desired to be offered. Neilan funeral will be held Saturday morning It was announced this afternoon that the funeral of the late Judge Neilan will be held at the home at __:30 a.m Saturday. Services with High Mass, will be held at St. Mary's church at 9:15 a.m. The services will be conducted by Father Hyland and Shea. The pall bearers will be J.J. Pater, John F. Heath, M.O Burns, W.J Coakley, Chas. E. Mason and John Hogan, Of Detroit.

    07/25/2006 08:41:20
    1. trip to Hamilton
    2. I did end up going to Hamilton on Thursday. I got up at 330 am after a few hours sleep, woke up and left the house at 430ish or so. I live in Akron so about a 4 hour drive for me. On the outskirts of town there were some old farms that seemed to have been there for a very long time. Like stepping back in time. Then there were new condos and homes. Further on I came upon the city and it was a mixture of old and new. Some of the architecture was really amazing. What it must have been like 100 years ago. Anway, I went to the archives center and Linda Thompson was extremely helpful:) Before I knew it the day was flying by and I had more places to go. I went on to the courthouse and went on a self guided tour. That building is a must see. The woodwork was amazing. The historical coutroom was very neat. I then went on to St. Mary;s cemetery which was in good condition. The grass was mowed and it was generally kept up. Next, it was on to the lane library to do research there. By 930ish I had to leave for home. Family obligations forced me to go right back which was rough. Was home 130ish am or so and was exhausted to say the least. I was however very glad that I had went. I was able to find a lot but of course there were things I forgot or missed. I would have never gotten all that I did withought going myself since the archives center does not have the man power for all that for one person. I will definitely turn to them for small amounts here and there because they were so helpful. Things that I found, naturalization and declaration records, marriage records, death records, wills, probate records One of the probate records was HUGE. It was full of recepts from businesses in early 1900. The milk receipt was even in there. It is so neat to look at those old receipts and see what they bought and how much things cost etc. Anyone who has not searched for probate records needs to. I had no idea they could contain so many cool things. Not all have so much Linda said but any would be neat so to all junior searchers it is a great idea to go to try and obtain these. John F. Neilan's obit was really really neat. I know it is not your family but if anyone is interested in reading it, I will send it. Or maybe it could be put on the Butler site? Names that cross my line Neilan, Teague, Hill, Heath, Goldrick, Vaughn, Stuckey. Coakley, Norman, Loy and others

    07/23/2006 12:38:53
    1. RE: [OHBUTLER-L] Need assistance
    2. Bob Kneer
    3. The Lane Library has the old newspapers on microfilm. You can contact them at this website. www.lanepl.org/hamilton.htm Good luck. Sandi Orlando, Fl -----Original Message----- From: noles1a [mailto:herculeemb@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 11:51 PM To: OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [OHBUTLER-L] Need assistance Need help on locating an obit for Carrie Josephine Bassett Reed whom died on 4/12/1956 in Hamilton, Butler Ohio. Also her sister Gertrude Anna Bassett McConnelly whom died in Hamilton as well on 8/9/1920. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== Search for Butler County family names ~ http://surhelp-bin.rootsweb.com/surindx.pl?site=OHBUTLER2

    07/23/2006 07:17:22
    1. Need assistance
    2. noles1a
    3. Need help on locating an obit for Carrie Josephine Bassett Reed whom died on 4/12/1956 in Hamilton, Butler Ohio. Also her sister Gertrude Anna Bassett McConnelly whom died in Hamilton as well on 8/9/1920. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

    07/22/2006 02:51:22
    1. Re: [OHBUTLER-L] Fw: Story for Country Living Magazine
    2. Gene Williams
    3. Larry.......Have her.contact George and Alice Frazee @ 166 Macready Avenue, Monroe, Oh 45050, 513-539-7651. He went to a one-room school house and would be willing to talk to her about it. If I remember correctly, I believe it was just south of Monroe, and the building is still there. They do not have a computer. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Helton" <spoors@localnet.com> To: <OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 10:44 AM Subject: [OHBUTLER-L] Fw: Story for Country Living Magazine > Can anyone out there help below. She needs to hear from anyone who > attended a one room school. Thanks. > > Take care, > J. Larry Helton, Jr. > > "It's not how you die, it's what you live for." - Daniel Boone > > From: "Ann Fazzini" <eonfazz@yahoo.com> > >> The other is: I wondered if you know anyone (or if you >> yourself) attended a one-room school. If so can you >> tell me a little bit about it, or forward me to >> someone who might be able to talk about this a bit? > > > > ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== > To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE: Send a message to: > OHBUTLER-L-request@rootsweb.com or OHBUTLER-D-request@rootsweb.com > Put SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE (whichever you want to do) > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006 > >

    07/22/2006 04:57:25
    1. Fw: Story for Country Living Magazine
    2. Larry Helton
    3. Can anyone out there help below. She needs to hear from anyone who attended a one room school. Thanks. Take care, J. Larry Helton, Jr. "It's not how you die, it's what you live for." - Daniel Boone From: "Ann Fazzini" <eonfazz@yahoo.com> > The other is: I wondered if you know anyone (or if you > yourself) attended a one-room school. If so can you > tell me a little bit about it, or forward me to > someone who might be able to talk about this a bit?

    07/22/2006 04:44:05
    1. RE: [OHBUTLER-L] Turner family
    2. Bob Kneer
    3. I found one. Hope it helps. Sandi Orlando, FL U.S. Phone and Address Directories, 1993-2002 Record about Hamilton B Turner Name: Hamilton B Turner Address: 4914 Windsor Rd City: Middletown State: Ohio Zip Code: 45044-6819 Phone Number: 513-423-3358 Residence Years: 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 -----Original Message----- From: Liz Webster (by way of Norma Adams <njadams@cinci.rr.com>) [mailto:lizwebster71@telstra.com] Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 4:32 PM To: OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [OHBUTLER-L] Turner family Are there any subscribers out there by this name and location: Hamilton Turner in MIDDLETOWN? My brother, father, and grandfather, all born in Dayton, are all named Howard Hamilton Webster, named after my grandfather's maternal grandfather Hamilton Turner. This Hamilton Turner's daughter was Anna Agnes Turner, and she married Dr. Frank Webster. We would be interested in making contact with anyone who is a namesake, and who could possibly help us search more into the Hamilton family. Thanking you Liz Webster Franklin, Tasmania,Australia ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== Search for surnames in the 1882 History of Butler County ~ http://surhelp-bin.rootsweb.com/surindx.pl?site=OHBUTLER

    07/21/2006 03:06:26
    1. Turner family
    2. Liz Webster
    3. Are there any subscribers out there by this name and location: Hamilton Turner in MIDDLETOWN? My brother, father, and grandfather, all born in Dayton, are all named Howard Hamilton Webster, named after my grandfather's maternal grandfather Hamilton Turner. This Hamilton Turner's daughter was Anna Agnes Turner, and she married Dr. Frank Webster. We would be interested in making contact with anyone who is a namesake, and who could possibly help us search more into the Hamilton family. Thanking you Liz Webster Franklin, Tasmania,Australia

    07/21/2006 10:31:53
    1. Re: [OHBUTLER-L] Brumley, Minerva J
    2. Marilyn Bartenslager
    3. Hi Linda Thompson >I just wanted to let you I got the death record information you sent on my >gg-great-grandmother Minerva Jane Brumley in my mail today. YOu have made >my day. One more piece of the puzzle added. At this time I am not sure if >there were any of James and Minerva Brumley's children that lived in Butler >County, Ohio before or after her death. There was one son named Jackson >Brumley I don't have any information on other that he was born about 1860 >in Clay Co., Ky. I have all the other children accounted for. Thanks again Linda for all your help. Marilyn Bartenslager

    07/20/2006 01:41:22
    1. Re: [OHBUTLER-L] help please
    2. thanks for trying:) I appreciate it very much. Thomas Neilan was born about 1806 in Roscommon Ir He emmigrated to U.S in 1848 to New Haven CT In 1857 moved to Fayette County Ohio 1857-1866 Thomas farmed, lived in Fayette, Madison and Clarke Counties. 1866 moved to Butler county from Clarke 1870 census lists Paddy's run Ohio in Butler county (at least then) also says Ross Township. Thomas, Sarah, John, Mary and Sarah. No record of Thomas after this census at all. Thought this might help a little Audra

    07/19/2006 11:20:45
    1. Re: [OHBUTLER-L] Looking for a cemetery
    2. This thread on Hamilton and finding a cemetery was so interesting, I added a link to the archives of the email list on the index page of _http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohbutler_ (http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohbutler) near the top, about Hamilton, with a red car by it. That should help with lost emails, too. Nancy In a message dated 7/18/2006 1:30:26 PM Central Daylight Time, genewill@sbcglobal.net writes: SORRY....I just now noticed that you said you lost the emails that we sent you.

    07/19/2006 11:08:55
    1. Re: [OHBUTLER-L] help please
    2. Gene Williams
    3. Thanks for the heads-up. It might keep me from looking like a total idiot later. A clue that Audra indicated earlier was that Thomas had a "Paddys Run" mailing address. That, in itself, leads me to believe that there might be record of Thomas between Ross and Scipio, probably on a farm, since it sounds like the background is Irish Catholic. If so, maybe Jill Evans, John Francis, or Tom Stander might have an inkling where he might have been located, if there is nothing being found in the Butler County records. I am told that my grandmother had a son, born dead, buried on the farm, yet there are no records that we have ever found of his existence, and our people have been at Shandon since the beginning, so, good luck searching. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Thompson" <Linda_72@fuse.net> To: <OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER-L] help please > Gene, > > Thanks for the acknowledgement, but I work at the Butler County Records > Center. I talked to Audra on the phone on and explained to her what > records were at the Records Center and although we could do some look-ups > for her, we were not able to do in-depth research as we are not staffed to > do that. > > The one lady that I find most helpful at the Lane Library is Audrey. > > Most of her Neilan family is in St. Mary's cemetery, but they do not have > a record of John's father, Thomas Neilan. He is not at St Stephen's > either. > > Will keep checking > > Linda Thompson > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gene Williams" <genewill@sbcglobal.net> > To: <OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 7:35 PM > Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER-L] help please > > >> Ask for Linda Thompson at Lane Public Library....lots of >> info/knowledge..SW Ohio Genealogy society. >> Call John Francis at New London Cemetery....Paddy's Run is Shandon, Oh, >> and the New London Cemetery is at Shandon...plus there is another, older >> cemetery in the middle of Shandon. St Alouisious Cathlic Church outside >> of Shandon may have record of Thomas, since it looks like he might have >> been a farmer around Paddy's Run (Shandon)....OR St Marys might be the >> answer....my understanding is that the family is Irish Catholic?? >> Before you leave home, go to the Butler County website through Genweb. >> It has lots of info that may help you in figuring out which cemeteries >> that you may want to concentrate your search. The official Butler >> County (gov) website will give you all of the addresses for your >> searches. >> The others are correct about the Hamiltonian. It will be the most >> centrally located for your endeavors, since it is two or three blocks in >> each direction from where you are wanting to go (the library, courthouse, >> archive center, Veterans museum, easy access to any part of Butler Co >> from that location). Venice Cemetery is at Ross. Bunker Hill is at >> Reily. Millville Cemetery..St Charles Cemetery, on 129. Macedonia >> Cemetery on Drewsburg Road, towards Indiana, but still in the general >> area of Paddys Run, plus there are a lot of "family plots" scattered all >> through the area. That is where the info from the Butler County website >> may save you a lot of time hunting, once you determine what area Thomas >> might have had as a final resting place. Most of the folks are real >> friendly and helpful, especially when they find out you are one of us, a >> couple of generations removed. And, of course, Neilan Blvd runs right >> along the river from almost downtown Hamilton to Fairfield. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <Audra4RLS@aol.com> >> To: <OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 5:22 PM >> Subject: [OHBUTLER-L] help please >> >> >>> Hello, >>> I really need some advise from any kind soul in regard to planning a >>> trip >>> to Hamilton City to work on genealogy. I have never been there and will >>> be >>> coming from Akron. It appears the only hotel is the Hamiltonian Hotel. >>> Does >>> anyone know anything about it? This hotel would be close to the museum, >>> Lane >>> library and probate etc. records right? Any ideas of things to do or >>> must sees >>> regarding genealogy or otherwise? Thanks you so much. >>> Audra >>> >>> >>> ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== >>> Butler County American History & Genealogy Project >>> http://www.usgennet.org/usa/oh/county/butler >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/389 - Release Date: >>> 7/14/2006 >>> >>> >> >> >> ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== >> Butler County Archives and Records Center - >> http://www.butlercountyohio.org/records/ >> >> > > > > ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== > To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE: Send a message to: > OHBUTLER-L-request@rootsweb.com or OHBUTLER-D-request@rootsweb.com > Put SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE (whichever you want to do) > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/391 - Release Date: 7/18/2006 > >

    07/19/2006 11:04:47
    1. Re: [OHBUTLER-L] help please
    2. Linda Thompson
    3. Gene, Thanks for the acknowledgement, but I work at the Butler County Records Center. I talked to Audra on the phone on and explained to her what records were at the Records Center and although we could do some look-ups for her, we were not able to do in-depth research as we are not staffed to do that. The one lady that I find most helpful at the Lane Library is Audrey. Most of her Neilan family is in St. Mary's cemetery, but they do not have a record of John's father, Thomas Neilan. He is not at St Stephen's either. Will keep checking Linda Thompson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Williams" <genewill@sbcglobal.net> To: <OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER-L] help please > Ask for Linda Thompson at Lane Public Library....lots of > info/knowledge..SW Ohio Genealogy society. > Call John Francis at New London Cemetery....Paddy's Run is Shandon, Oh, > and the New London Cemetery is at Shandon...plus there is another, older > cemetery in the middle of Shandon. St Alouisious Cathlic Church outside > of Shandon may have record of Thomas, since it looks like he might have > been a farmer around Paddy's Run (Shandon)....OR St Marys might be the > answer....my understanding is that the family is Irish Catholic?? > Before you leave home, go to the Butler County website through Genweb. It > has lots of info that may help you in figuring out which cemeteries that > you may want to concentrate your search. The official Butler County > (gov) website will give you all of the addresses for your searches. > The others are correct about the Hamiltonian. It will be the most > centrally located for your endeavors, since it is two or three blocks in > each direction from where you are wanting to go (the library, courthouse, > archive center, Veterans museum, easy access to any part of Butler Co from > that location). Venice Cemetery is at Ross. Bunker Hill is at Reily. > Millville Cemetery..St Charles Cemetery, on 129. Macedonia Cemetery on > Drewsburg Road, towards Indiana, but still in the general area of Paddys > Run, plus there are a lot of "family plots" scattered all through the > area. That is where the info from the Butler County website may save you > a lot of time hunting, once you determine what area Thomas might have had > as a final resting place. Most of the folks are real friendly and > helpful, especially when they find out you are one of us, a couple of > generations removed. And, of course, Neilan Blvd runs right along the > river from almost downtown Hamilton to Fairfield. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Audra4RLS@aol.com> > To: <OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 5:22 PM > Subject: [OHBUTLER-L] help please > > >> Hello, >> I really need some advise from any kind soul in regard to planning a >> trip >> to Hamilton City to work on genealogy. I have never been there and will >> be >> coming from Akron. It appears the only hotel is the Hamiltonian Hotel. >> Does >> anyone know anything about it? This hotel would be close to the museum, >> Lane >> library and probate etc. records right? Any ideas of things to do or >> must sees >> regarding genealogy or otherwise? Thanks you so much. >> Audra >> >> >> ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== >> Butler County American History & Genealogy Project >> http://www.usgennet.org/usa/oh/county/butler >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/389 - Release Date: 7/14/2006 >> >> > > > ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== > Butler County Archives and Records Center - > http://www.butlercountyohio.org/records/ > >

    07/19/2006 10:15:36
    1. Re: [OHBUTLER-L] Neilan Bld
    2. Tim Robertson
    3. Neilan Blvd is still Neilan Blvd. Joe Nuxhall Way used to be called Ford Blvd. Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: <Audra4RLS@aol.com> To: <OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 10:13 AM Subject: [OHBUTLER-L] Neilan Bld > > In a message dated 7/19/2006 9:39:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, > lsorrell@cinci.rr.com writes: > > Isn't Neilan Blvd now called Joe Nuxall Way? > > > > > I am not sure on that at all. According to Map Quest it is still saying > Neilan Blvd. > Also an article by Jim Blount in the Journal News on June 12, 2002 > entitled > John F. Neilan, father and son, served community it says this > "Neilan Boulevard, Hamilton's north-south riverside drive built in the > 1950's honors John F. Neilan, who contributed more than 40 years service > to the > community before his death in 1945. " > > Further on it says "When the 1913 flood divided the city, Neilan was > appointed to direct affairs on the West Side, serving as military governor > during > the crisis. He supported formation of the Miami Conservatory District to > protect the area from such disasters. As a lawyer, he worked on behalf of > the > conservancy in acquiring land for the district." > > I have another article on this as well, but as to Joe Nuxall Way, I have > no > idea, just going by what people are telling me and map quest:) > Audra > > > ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== > Butler County Archives and Records Center - > http://www.butlercountyohio.org/records/

    07/19/2006 04:20:10
    1. Neilan Bld
    2. In a message dated 7/19/2006 9:39:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, lsorrell@cinci.rr.com writes: Isn't Neilan Blvd now called Joe Nuxall Way? I am not sure on that at all. According to Map Quest it is still saying Neilan Blvd. Also an article by Jim Blount in the Journal News on June 12, 2002 entitled John F. Neilan, father and son, served community it says this "Neilan Boulevard, Hamilton's north-south riverside drive built in the 1950's honors John F. Neilan, who contributed more than 40 years service to the community before his death in 1945. " Further on it says "When the 1913 flood divided the city, Neilan was appointed to direct affairs on the West Side, serving as military governor during the crisis. He supported formation of the Miami Conservatory District to protect the area from such disasters. As a lawyer, he worked on behalf of the conservancy in acquiring land for the district." I have another article on this as well, but as to Joe Nuxall Way, I have no idea, just going by what people are telling me and map quest:) Audra

    07/19/2006 04:13:39