Thanks, all. That automatic calculator is really handy. Nancy

My math calculates 17 Sep 1797. Ted

They were born 16 Sep 1797 according to my computerized genealogy program.

On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 12:59:13 EDT, Sftrail@aol.com wrote: >I'm awful with math. For some one who died 5 August 1836 aged 38 years, 10 >months, and 19 days, was he born 17 October 1797 or 1796? Sun, 17 Sep 1797. -- Dennis Kowallek Hanover Twp., Butler Co. kowallek@iglou.com ******************

I'm awful with math. For some one who died 5 August 1836 aged 38 years, 10 months, and 19 days, was he born 17 October 1797 or 1796? Thanks! Nancy

Milly, I do not like the new system either. Charlotte

Now it gets funny....I have Leibrook family, but haven't done a lot with it. They are cousins from Okeana. Eugene and I used to play together as children, in Shandon and Okeana. Milton (his grandfather) and I were both very active in Knights of Pythias, me in Middletown and Milton in Okeana. Most of them moved down to Florida about 20 years ago. Milton and his wife are dead for a few years, but I think they are buried in Okeana. Check with the folks at Macedonia Christian Church for new info on the Handleys. I think I ran into some of them when we buried Ruby (Cleaver) Ruskaup, and, again when we buried her husband, Bill Ruskaup. A lot of those people were very active in the Macedonia Church over the years. That was also the church that my foster father, Ted Gast, and all of his siblings grew up in, so we stayed in close contact with everybody out there. Leibrooks, through the Burns family, are also related to John David Francis, which, in turn, means that most everyone in Shandon and Okeana, plus the majority of Scipio were related..........ain't that a hoot!!! If that isn't bad enough, since the Hawks and Joyces are also part of the same basic roots, that means that Millville and Reily are also in your background. Ain't life a blast?? As I told you when we first started talking about Mary Ann and that part of the family, it's a small, small world. Yes, I grew up knowing the DeArmonds from Shandon Congregational. If I can find the pictures, I'll send them to you. I have one of Bob Handley dressed as an old woman for some sort of silly show that the men put on back in the 1950's that I know you'll get a chuckle out of. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Sftrail@aol.com> To: <OHBUTLER@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 12:32 PM Subject: [OHBUTLER]DeArmond-Dwyer-George-Handley-Jeanes-Leibrook-Nugent-Sizelove-Russell-Yauger > Are any of you researching any of these Morgan township families? > > In a letter from Miriam George Van Mason to her sister Alice George > Davis, > written August 9, 1978: > > "I, too, wondered why our road could not be named George. There are > questions that I should have asked. Could it be that our road was built > before > Colerain Pike? If that was the case it may have been a reason why > travelers > stayed over night with Catherine Thompson George on their way from > Cincinnati to > Brookville. > > With the Morgan Township map showing the Dwyer farm not too far from > Scipio > our road would have led to that area. > > I have wondered if the original George land did not include that Handley > land up the hill back of Clyde Russell's place. Gillie (Handley)'s farm > was not > very large, and as you recall, it was located between the George and > DeArmond acres. It extended to the East-west road leading west to the > Macedonia > Church as did that of Grandpa (George)'s land. Not only did Archie H but > also > his sister Barbara Yauger have their homes up that George hill, but a bit > west > of their land was a plot owned by Bill Nugent. His wife was a sister of > Grandma Handley. > I believe that if any <b>George</b> land was sold to the Handleys it must > have been before > the time of EJG (Enoch Jackson George) since he wanted to hold on to his > acres. > > Did you ever walk up that George hill? I struggled up once to take a > harvest message to > Archie H. Barbara and her husband came each Sunday afternoon to visit > Grandma > Handley. Did you happen to know Orville Handley? The year before we > returned to Okeana School from No. 4, he started to school there. He was > such an > attractive youngster that > we older ones took a great interest in him. > > As you recall our great, great grandmother Ann Handley married Reuben > George. > Remembering that, I thought it was good for Aunt Eva (George Clawson) and > Sadie (Handley -?-) to be together in later years. Even though Aunt Eva > criticized her at times, she felt > very sad when Sadie was too sick to return to her. > > Florence Sizelove married Thomas Jeanes - so she was the aunt of Florence > Leibrook. > As near as I can figure from the map it looks as if the Jeanes land was a > bit south of the > Macedonia church." > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.8/455 - Release Date: 9/22/2006 > >

Milly, I did not post for you. I don't think it bounced. I got your original message through the Butler County site. Anyway I will keep my eyes open for your WARDs. Good Luck -----Original Message----- From: ohbutler-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohbutler-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MPiros1120@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 4:44 PM To: ohbutler@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER] Divorce records Hi Sandi Yes I know it was Hamilton Co Census I posted. I sent to both Lists because I have WARDs from both counties in that time frame. I see my post bounced and you posted it for me. I guess you can't CC a copy to another list. I hate this new email system at rootsweb. Thanks for posting for me Milly WARD Piros Administrator for Anderson Co TN-Campbell Co TN-Fentress Co TN-DELK Lists and a chat list Down-Home-Chatter My Mind is Like Lightning.... One Brilliant Flash and It's Gone....... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Sandi Yes I know it was Hamilton Co Census I posted. I sent to both Lists because I have WARDs from both counties in that time frame. I see my post bounced and you posted it for me. I guess you can't CC a copy to another list. I hate this new email system at rootsweb. Thanks for posting for me Milly WARD Piros Administrator for Anderson Co TN-Campbell Co TN-Fentress Co TN-DELK Lists and a chat list Down-Home-Chatter My Mind is Like Lightning.... One Brilliant Flash and It's Gone.......

Milly, The census records you mention are not in Butler County but are in Hamilton County which is Cincinnati. You might try posting on a different site to see what you can find. Good luck. Sandi Deaton-Kneer Orlando, FL -----Original Message----- From: ohbutler-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohbutler-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MPiros1120@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 12:32 PM To: OHBUTLER@rootsweb.com Cc: OHHAMILT@rootsweb.com Subject: [OHBUTLER] Divorce records Hi Lists I am trying to find if this is my LULA WARD TEATER. What I need is to see if HENRY TEATER divorced LULA between 1920-1930. I also need the marriage date of LULA McCOY . If anyone has divorce and marriage records for these years I would appreciate a look up. Thank you In 1930 Hamilton OH #294 TEATER Henry boarder 47 divorced next door #295 McCOY Marville 24 m21 ______LULA 28 m25 KY KY KY Milly WARD Piros My Mind is Like Lightning.... One Brilliant Flash and It's Gone....... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Are any of you researching any of these Morgan township families? In a letter from Miriam George Van Mason to her sister Alice George Davis, written August 9, 1978: "I, too, wondered why our road could not be named George. There are questions that I should have asked. Could it be that our road was built before Colerain Pike? If that was the case it may have been a reason why travelers stayed over night with Catherine Thompson George on their way from Cincinnati to Brookville. With the Morgan Township map showing the Dwyer farm not too far from Scipio our road would have led to that area. I have wondered if the original George land did not include that Handley land up the hill back of Clyde Russell's place. Gillie (Handley)'s farm was not very large, and as you recall, it was located between the George and DeArmond acres. It extended to the East-west road leading west to the Macedonia Church as did that of Grandpa (George)'s land. Not only did Archie H but also his sister Barbara Yauger have their homes up that George hill, but a bit west of their land was a plot owned by Bill Nugent. His wife was a sister of Grandma Handley. I believe that if any <b>George</b> land was sold to the Handleys it must have been before the time of EJG (Enoch Jackson George) since he wanted to hold on to his acres. Did you ever walk up that George hill? I struggled up once to take a harvest message to Archie H. Barbara and her husband came each Sunday afternoon to visit Grandma Handley. Did you happen to know Orville Handley? The year before we returned to Okeana School from No. 4, he started to school there. He was such an attractive youngster that we older ones took a great interest in him. As you recall our great, great grandmother Ann Handley married Reuben George. Remembering that, I thought it was good for Aunt Eva (George Clawson) and Sadie (Handley -?-) to be together in later years. Even though Aunt Eva criticized her at times, she felt very sad when Sadie was too sick to return to her. Florence Sizelove married Thomas Jeanes - so she was the aunt of Florence Leibrook. As near as I can figure from the map it looks as if the Jeanes land was a bit south of the Macedonia church."

Hi Lists I am trying to find if this is my LULA WARD TEATER. What I need is to see if HENRY TEATER divorced LULA between 1920-1930. I also need the marriage date of LULA McCOY . If anyone has divorce and marriage records for these years I would appreciate a look up. Thank you In 1930 Hamilton OH #294 TEATER Henry boarder 47 divorced next door #295 McCOY Marville 24 m21 ______LULA 28 m25 KY KY KY Milly WARD Piros My Mind is Like Lightning.... One Brilliant Flash and It's Gone.......

Yes, thank you, Sandra. Do you have this book, or did you locate this on the internet? Is there other information included with this citation that might be helpful or is this all that is included under Andreas Koch? I'm not familiar with this book, so I guess I have a lot of questions. Sorry. This could be the Andrew Koch I'm looking for, but I'm trying to document the immigration date and info for Andrew Koch/Cook who lived in Lewis Co., KY, after the Civil War until 1890????. Census says he was born in Hamburg. His Civil War pension application says he was a machinist apprentice in Cincinnati in 1854. He was born ca. 1835, and he would be the son of Andrew Koch who immigrated in 1844, his mother Mary (Maria), on the Latrobe from Bremen, Germany. I have Andrew Koch, Mary Koch, and Andrew Koch, son on the 1850 census in Butler Co., Ohio, who are the correct ages. Thanks again for your help. You're the best!!!!!! Janet -----Original Message----- From: ohbutler-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohbutler-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of SANDRA ENDERS Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 12:49 PM To: ohbutler@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER] Koch family Andreas Koch Year: 1844 Place: America Family Members: 4 persons Source Publication Code: 2692 Primary Immigrant: Koch, Andreas Annotation: Emigration from Obereichsfeld to America in the second half of the 19th century. From a file containing requests for permission to emigrate, stored in the Landratsamt In Muehlhausen (in Thuringia, now East Germany). Concerns 1,095 emigrants to America, 18 Source Bibliography: GOLDMANN, L. "Obereichsfeldische Auswanderung nach Amerika in der zweiten Haelfte des 19. Jahrhunderts." In Unser Eichsfeld, Jahrgang 23:12 (Dec. 1928), pp. 257-262. Page: 261 1870 United States Federal Census Record about Andrew Koch Name: Andrew Koch Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Age in 1870: 36 BirthPlace: Hesse / Hessen Home in 1870: Sandusky Ward 4, Erie, Ohio Family and Neighbors: View Results Race: White Gender: Male Value of real estate: View Image Post Office: Sandusky Hi Janet, hope it worked this way Sandy "jlestep@smyth.net" <jlestep@smyth.net> wrote: Sandra, thanks for replying, but I didn't get an attachment on the message. Janet ------- Original Message ------- >From : SANDRA ENDERS[mailto:sandra.enders@sbcglobal.net] Sent : 9/22/2006 11:31:00 AM To : ohbutler@rootsweb.com Cc : Subject : RE: Re: [OHBUTLER] Koch family Hello Janet, There is a lot of Kochs in Reily, Sandusky Ohio. Attached is some ineresting information that might help. Also think out of the box with their last name, misspelling are common. Hope I could help, Sandy "jlestep@smyth.net" wrote: Hello, I'm looking for info on Andrew (Andreas) Koch and Mary Koch who immigrated to the US in 1844 with their son Andrew Koch, who was born ca. 1835. There is an Andrew and Mary Koch with son Andrew Koch on the 1850 census in Butler Co., Ohio. Does anyone have info on this family, or could someone direct me to the best source for this family in Butler Co.? Thanks! Janet Estep ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Do you know where they were living? -----Original Message----- From: ohbutler-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohbutler-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Brenda & Charlie Kerr Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 1:07 PM To: OHBUTLER@rootsweb.com Subject: [OHBUTLER] Gardner 1800's Looking for info. on Thomas GARDNER's descendants. Anna BAKER married Thomas GARDNER 1817. They had 5 boys. Anna died in 1827. Thomas married Anna's sister Lucy in 1828. They had Lucy and Charles. Thomas died 1835-1840. I am looking for the names of the 5 boys and any other info. Thank you, Brenda in TX ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sandy, That was so wonderful, for you to find that information for Janet, we need more like you and thanks from all of us on the list, that we do have someone like you out there. Have A Wonderful Day. Bettie ----- Original Message ----- From: SANDRA ENDERS<mailto:sandra.enders@sbcglobal.net> To: ohbutler@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohbutler@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER] Koch family Andreas Koch Year: 1844 Place: America Family Members: 4 persons Source Publication Code: 2692 Primary Immigrant: Koch, Andreas Annotation: Emigration from Obereichsfeld to America in the second half of the 19th century. From a file containing requests for permission to emigrate, stored in the Landratsamt In Muehlhausen (in Thuringia, now East Germany). Concerns 1,095 emigrants to America, 18 Source Bibliography: GOLDMANN, L. "Obereichsfeldische Auswanderung nach Amerika in der zweiten Haelfte des 19. Jahrhunderts." In Unser Eichsfeld, Jahrgang 23:12 (Dec. 1928), pp. 257-262. Page: 261 1870 United States Federal Census Record about Andrew Koch Name: Andrew Koch Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Age in 1870: 36 BirthPlace: Hesse / Hessen Home in 1870: Sandusky Ward 4, Erie, Ohio Family and Neighbors: View Results Race: White Gender: Male Value of real estate: View Image Post Office: Sandusky Hi Janet, hope it worked this way Sandy "jlestep@smyth.net<mailto:jlestep@smyth.net>" <jlestep@smyth.net<mailto:jlestep@smyth.net>> wrote: Sandra, thanks for replying, but I didn't get an attachment on the message. Janet ------- Original Message ------- >From : SANDRA ENDERS[mailto:sandra.enders@sbcglobal.net] Sent : 9/22/2006 11:31:00 AM To : ohbutler@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohbutler@rootsweb.com> Cc : Subject : RE: Re: [OHBUTLER] Koch family Hello Janet, There is a lot of Kochs in Reily, Sandusky Ohio. Attached is some ineresting information that might help. Also think out of the box with their last name, misspelling are common. Hope I could help, Sandy "jlestep@smyth.net<mailto:jlestep@smyth.net>" wrote: Hello, I'm looking for info on Andrew (Andreas) Koch and Mary Koch who immigrated to the US in 1844 with their son Andrew Koch, who was born ca. 1835. There is an Andrew and Mary Koch with son Andrew Koch on the 1850 census in Butler Co., Ohio. Does anyone have info on this family, or could someone direct me to the best source for this family in Butler Co.? Thanks! Janet Estep ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

They were living in Madison Butler Co. In 1840 2 of the boys were living with their setp-mother/aunt Lucy GARDNER. Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Kneer To: 'Brenda & Charlie Kerr' ; ohbutler@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 12:27 PM Subject: RE: [OHBUTLER] Gardner 1800's Do you know where they were living? -----Original Message----- From: ohbutler-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohbutler-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Brenda & Charlie Kerr Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 1:07 PM To: OHBUTLER@rootsweb.com Subject: [OHBUTLER] Gardner 1800's Looking for info. on Thomas GARDNER's descendants. Anna BAKER married Thomas GARDNER 1817. They had 5 boys. Anna died in 1827. Thomas married Anna's sister Lucy in 1828. They had Lucy and Charles. Thomas died 1835-1840. I am looking for the names of the 5 boys and any other info. Thank you, Brenda in TX ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sandra, thanks for replying, but I didn't get an attachment on the message. Janet ------- Original Message ------- >From : SANDRA ENDERS[mailto:sandra.enders@sbcglobal.net] Sent : 9/22/2006 11:31:00 AM To : ohbutler@rootsweb.com Cc : Subject : RE: Re: [OHBUTLER] Koch family Hello Janet, There is a lot of Kochs in Reily, Sandusky Ohio. Attached is some ineresting information that might help. Also think out of the box with their last name, misspelling are common. Hope I could help, Sandy "jlestep@smyth.net" <jlestep@smyth.net> wrote: Hello, I'm looking for info on Andrew (Andreas) Koch and Mary Koch who immigrated to the US in 1844 with their son Andrew Koch, who was born ca. 1835. There is an Andrew and Mary Koch with son Andrew Koch on the 1850 census in Butler Co., Ohio. Does anyone have info on this family, or could someone direct me to the best source for this family in Butler Co.? Thanks! Janet Estep ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Looking for info. on Thomas GARDNER's descendants. Anna BAKER married Thomas GARDNER 1817. They had 5 boys. Anna died in 1827. Thomas married Anna's sister Lucy in 1828. They had Lucy and Charles. Thomas died 1835-1840. I am looking for the names of the 5 boys and any other info. Thank you, Brenda in TX

Andreas Koch Year: 1844 Place: America Family Members: 4 persons Source Publication Code: 2692 Primary Immigrant: Koch, Andreas Annotation: Emigration from Obereichsfeld to America in the second half of the 19th century. From a file containing requests for permission to emigrate, stored in the Landratsamt In Muehlhausen (in Thuringia, now East Germany). Concerns 1,095 emigrants to America, 18 Source Bibliography: GOLDMANN, L. "Obereichsfeldische Auswanderung nach Amerika in der zweiten Haelfte des 19. Jahrhunderts." In Unser Eichsfeld, Jahrgang 23:12 (Dec. 1928), pp. 257-262. Page: 261 1870 United States Federal Census Record about Andrew Koch Name: Andrew Koch Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Age in 1870: 36 BirthPlace: Hesse / Hessen Home in 1870: Sandusky Ward 4, Erie, Ohio Family and Neighbors: View Results Race: White Gender: Male Value of real estate: View Image Post Office: Sandusky Hi Janet, hope it worked this way Sandy "jlestep@smyth.net" <jlestep@smyth.net> wrote: Sandra, thanks for replying, but I didn't get an attachment on the message. Janet ------- Original Message ------- >From : SANDRA ENDERS[mailto:sandra.enders@sbcglobal.net] Sent : 9/22/2006 11:31:00 AM To : ohbutler@rootsweb.com Cc : Subject : RE: Re: [OHBUTLER] Koch family Hello Janet, There is a lot of Kochs in Reily, Sandusky Ohio. Attached is some ineresting information that might help. Also think out of the box with their last name, misspelling are common. Hope I could help, Sandy "jlestep@smyth.net" wrote: Hello, I'm looking for info on Andrew (Andreas) Koch and Mary Koch who immigrated to the US in 1844 with their son Andrew Koch, who was born ca. 1835. There is an Andrew and Mary Koch with son Andrew Koch on the 1850 census in Butler Co., Ohio. Does anyone have info on this family, or could someone direct me to the best source for this family in Butler Co.? Thanks! Janet Estep ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Janet, There is a lot of Kochs in Reily, Sandusky Ohio. Attached is some ineresting information that might help. Also think out of the box with their last name, misspelling are common. Hope I could help, Sandy "jlestep@smyth.net" <jlestep@smyth.net> wrote: Hello, I'm looking for info on Andrew (Andreas) Koch and Mary Koch who immigrated to the US in 1844 with their son Andrew Koch, who was born ca. 1835. There is an Andrew and Mary Koch with son Andrew Koch on the 1850 census in Butler Co., Ohio. Does anyone have info on this family, or could someone direct me to the best source for this family in Butler Co.? Thanks! Janet Estep ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message