On 27 December 2006, Mary Silva posted the following message to me on the Butler County Mailing List: >Message: 1 >Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 10:48:00 -0800 >From: "Mary Silva" <msilva@ccbh.mpowermail.com> >Dear Bob: >I am researching my family tree, and wondered if you might help give me some >advice? My ancestors, moved to Butler County, OH, about 1803 and lived >there until abt. 1817. I am trying to learn about them and a bit about >their lives. I do not know which township they lived in, or if they owned >property there. What are some of the ways I should be searching and what >records might I access? >Mary I am replying to the List as the procedures for obtaining the information Mary is requesting should be followed for all queries both to the List and to the Butler County Records Center and Archives, where all of Butler County's official records (except deeds and contemporary birth and death records are housed.) All requests must obtain the name(s) of the persons being researched, the type of record desired, e.g., births, marriages, deaths, wills, estates, etc. and a close approximation of the year of the event. The majority of our records are indexed first by year and then alpha within the year. Most important - you must also provide us with your name and complete mailing address as we do not send any records as attachments to e-mail. Your request may be sent to us via: E-MAIL bcarchives@butlercountyohio.org USPS Butler County Records Center and Archives 123 North Third St. Hamilton, OH 45011 ONLINE REQUEST FORM http://www.butlercountyohio.org/records We are not staffed to provide general research services and can only respond to requests for specifically identified records. If you need general research service, I would suggest that you post a query to this List or obtain the services of a professional researcher or one of the area genealogical societies. Bob McMaken Volunteer Genealogist Butler County Records Center and Archives

Judy my 2nd-great-grandparents were Eliphalet P (E.P.) & Harriet (Gill) Cole. From Auglazie and Allen Countries. E.P.'s parents were John Fullwood Cole and Nancy Ann Watson. John was born in New Jersey and Nancy in Virginia. As far as I know E.P. was born inAllen County. This is what I know so far. Still working rest of the family and I not sure if these names ring any bells for you but it might help. John and Nancy and E.P> are buried in Woodlawn Cemetery in Lima in the Cole family plot. Marilyn >From: "Judy Dukes" <judyd@abcs.com> >Reply-To: ohbutler@rootsweb.com >To: <ohbutler@rootsweb.com> >Subject: [OHBUTLER] Cole >Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 14:34:26 -0500 > >My 3rd great-grandmother, Alvira or Elvira Cole, married Simon Timberman or >Timmerman. I don't know when or where they married, but their first >(surviving?) child was born in 1836. They lived in Ross County in 1840 but >were in Indiana by 1845. > >I have all the information I want and need on the Timbermans, but I haven't >been able to find anything about Elvira. She died in Indiana in 1903, but >the names of her parents are not on the death certificate. She was b >October 3, 1817, probably in Ohio but possibly in Kentucky. (I've seen >both places given). > >I suspect that her parents were William and Margaret Cole, but I'm taking a >long shot on that. > >I'd really appreciate any help I can get. I do lookups for RAOGK and also >for Vigo County and the surrounding Indiana counties. > >Thanks in advance. This is one of my oldest brick walls. > >Judy in Indiana > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My 3rd great-grandmother, Alvira or Elvira Cole, married Simon Timberman or Timmerman. I don't know when or where they married, but their first (surviving?) child was born in 1836. They lived in Ross County in 1840 but were in Indiana by 1845. I have all the information I want and need on the Timbermans, but I haven't been able to find anything about Elvira. She died in Indiana in 1903, but the names of her parents are not on the death certificate. She was b October 3, 1817, probably in Ohio but possibly in Kentucky. (I've seen both places given). I suspect that her parents were William and Margaret Cole, but I'm taking a long shot on that. I'd really appreciate any help I can get. I do lookups for RAOGK and also for Vigo County and the surrounding Indiana counties. Thanks in advance. This is one of my oldest brick walls. Judy in Indiana

I believe that it is Colerain Township. It is in the Ross Township platte map, and looks as if it's across the border. I had looked for the surname of Colerain in Butler Co but didn't think about Hamilton County. The words are separated on the map--I didn't think they made much sense. Thank you. Judy in Terre Haute, Vigo County, Indiana

Seeking parents of Mary Anna Kaufman b.1839 d.1902 married 10 Dec 1861 at Butler Co. OH to John Benzing. She may be the daughter of John/Modise/Woodeso Coffman/Kaufman b.abt.1815 & Margaret/Margaretha ______ d.1866 of Butler Co. OH but need more proof. They (& Mary Anna) seem to be listed on the 1860 census in Hamilton, Butler Co. OH. Charles R. Heath HeathCR2@netscape.net

Judy: My Cole family is from Allen County, Ohio. I also looking for information on the Simpson/Reed families in Butler and Preble Counties, Ohio Marilyn Bartenslager Greenville, Ky. >From: "Judy Dukes" <judyd@abcs.com> >Reply-To: ohbutler@rootsweb.com >To: <ohbutler@rootsweb.com> >Subject: [OHBUTLER] Rain factory? >Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 10:07:37 -0500 > >I've been searching for years for my Cole ancestors in Butler County. On >the platte map, in the lower right hand corner, is a mill, and next to it >is the 'Cole Rain Factory.' Can anyone tell me what this was? > >Judy in Indiana > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Judy, What are the names of your Cole family? I'd be happy to see what I can find for you. Sandi Orlando, FL -----Original Message----- From: ohbutler-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohbutler-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Judy Dukes Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 10:08 AM To: ohbutler@rootsweb.com Subject: [OHBUTLER] Rain factory? I've been searching for years for my Cole ancestors in Butler County. On the platte map, in the lower right hand corner, is a mill, and next to it is the 'Cole Rain Factory.' Can anyone tell me what this was? Judy in Indiana ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 10:07:37 -0500, "Judy Dukes" <judyd@abcs.com> wrote: >I've been searching for years for my Cole ancestors in Butler County. On the platte map, in the lower right hand corner, is a mill, and next to it is the 'Cole Rain Factory.' Can anyone tell me what this was? What township and section? 'Cole Rain Factory' might actually be "Colerain Factory". Colerain Twp. is one of the northern-most townships in Hamilton Co. -- Dennis Kowallek Hanover Twp., Butler Co. kowallek@iglou.com ******************

I've been searching for years for my Cole ancestors in Butler County. On the platte map, in the lower right hand corner, is a mill, and next to it is the 'Cole Rain Factory.' Can anyone tell me what this was? Judy in Indiana

Dear Bob: I am researching my family tree, and wondered if you might help give me some advice? My ancestors, moved to Butler County, OH, about 1803 and lived there until abt. 1817. I am trying to learn about them and a bit about their lives. I do not know which township they lived in, or if they owned property there. What are some of the ways I should be searching and what records might I access? Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert McMaken" <rmcmaken@gmail.com> To: <OHBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 3:07 AM Subject: [OHBUTLER-L] Re: 1836 Plat Maps >I have been following, with some interest, this thread of conversation > since these documents are official Butler County records and, as such, > are subject to the Open Records Law and are in the public domain. > > The original plat maps are in the custody of the Butler County > Engineer's Office, as are all of the township plat maps that still > exist. Copies have been made over the years and can be found in > various libraries such as the Smith Library of Regional History in > Oxford (a division of the Lane Public Library) and the Cummins Room of > the Lane Public Library in downtown Hamilton. > > The various maps have been published in book format over the years by > several organizations. The book that most of us are the most familiar > with is entitled "The County of Butler, Ohio, McBride's Map of 1836 > Combined With The Atlases Of 1875 and 1895." It is a large format > book, 11" x 14" in size. My copy was printed in 1989 by Whipporill > Publications, Evansville, Indiana. It was sponsored by the Butler > County Historical Society. The last time I checked, they no longer had > copies available. > > This book also contains an index to the names of the property owners > shown on each of the 1836 township maps and what section of the > township the property was located in. Each township has its own index > and, unless you know what township your ancestors lived in, you must > go through each township to locate them. This index was donated by > Shirley Baker and is probably still under her copyright. > > The Butler County Records Center and Archives has a set of high > quality, large format copies of the maps (11" x 17") that were made > from the original plats. When they are reduced to "11 x 14" some of > the names listed on them become very difficult to read. When we reduce > them further, many of the names are no longer readable. > > We recently analyzed our copies and determined that some can be > enhanced and are arranging to get new copies to see what we can do > with the ones that need work on them. We will let the list know when > this project is completed and the procedure for ordering them. > > Please keep in mind that we cannot furnish copies of the entire index > due to copyright restrictions. > > The Records Center and Archives also has online digitized copies of > James McBride's original 1834 appraisals that were the basis for the > maps. To view them go to: > > http://www.butlercountyohio.org/records > > and click on "Archives" and then "McBride Collection." > > We also have a number of the re-appraisals from the mid 1800s. These > books contain drawings of each of the sections in the township and > often show the location of buildings, names of the owners and property > valuations. There are no indexes for these books and we need to know > the section of the township in order to locate the drawing. This is > not a complete collection and there are a number of missing townships. > I will pull all of the books together, make a list of what is > available, and post it to this list. > > If you have any questions regarding the maps, the other resources > cited or other record availability, please direct them to: > > bcarchives@butlercountyohio.org > > When ordering records, make sure you include your full name, e-mail > address, regular mailing address (we do not transmit records as > attachments), the name of the person being researched, type of record > desired, e.g., birth, marriage, death, estate, etc. and an > approximation of the date of the event. The copying costs are five > cents per page, with the first five copies free. To this will be added > mailing costs where appropriate. > > Bob McMaken > Volunteer Genealogist > Butler County Records Center and Archives > 123 North Third St. > Hamilton, OH 45011 > > > ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== > To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE: Send a message to: > OHBUTLER-L-request@rootsweb.com or OHBUTLER-D-request@rootsweb.com > Put SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE (whichever you want to do) > >

On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 09:20:23 -0500, Ann Trimmer <ann@trimmer.net> wrote: >In looking at the Plat maps that come up on Dennis's site, I saw one >that has a whole section (Lemon Twp south, sec 29) labeled "Ministerial >Section". There are no owner names. > >Can anyone tell me what a Ministerial Section was? Haven't seen that >before. See... http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~maggie/ohio-lands/ohl5.html They were lands set aside for religious purposes. -- Dennis Kowallek Hanover Twp., Butler Co. kowallek@iglou.com ******************

In looking at the Plat maps that come up on Dennis's site, I saw one that has a whole section (Lemon Twp south, sec 29) labeled "Ministerial Section". There are no owner names. Can anyone tell me what a Ministerial Section was? Haven't seen that before. Ann

Hi-- Would like to exchange, share or what ever with anyone else working on this family in Butler Co. Donna Hull, CA Descendants of Isaac Hull 1 Isaac HULL, b: 16 Aug 1758 , Lancaster, PA d: 06 Oct 1833 , Butler, OH, Burial: Greenwood Cem, Hamilton, Butler, OH (Lot 742) ... +Susan, b: 1769 VA, d: 16 Jan 1847 Butler, OH m: Abt. 1790 , Fayette, PA, Burial: Greenwood Cem, ... 2 John HULL ... 2 Jacob W. HULL ........ +Lucy MOORE, m: 25 Aug 1839 Butler, OH ... 2 Solomon HULL, b: Jun 1791 Fayette, PA ....... +Rachel, m: Butler, OH ........ 3 Isaac HULL, b: Abt. 1815 Butler, OH ........ 3 John W. HULL, b: Abt. 1818 Butler, OH ........ 3 Sarah Mariah HULL, b: Abt. 1821 Butler, OH ........ 3 Delilah HULL, b: 1830 OH ............. +Samuel HINKLE ... *2nd Wife of Solomon HULL: ........ +Elizabeth, b: 1827, ... 2 Abraham Johnson HULL, b: 09 Jul 1798 Fayette, PA ........ +Cynthia STEVENS, d: 20 Sep 1844 Butler, OH m: 13 Apr 1821 Butler, OH ... *2nd Wife of Abraham Johnson HULL: ........ +Margaret (Widow of Foster WALKER) m: 30 Dec 1845 Butler, OH ... 2 Elizabeth J. HULL,b: 20 Apr 1802 PA ........ +Andrew JACKSON, b: 24 May 1805 PA m: 16 Jan 1827 Butler, OH ........ 3 David Parker JACKSON, b: 27 Nov 1827 Butler, OH ........ 3 Samuel John JACKSON, b: 26 Jul 1829 Butler, OH ........ 3 George W. JACKSON, ........ 3 Susan Ann JACKSON, ........ 3 Abraham Johnson JACKSON, ........ 3 Sarah M. JACKSON, ........ 3 Margaret Eleanor JACKSON ... 2 Isaac W. HULL, b: Abt. 1806 , Fayette, PA ........ +Jemima ... *2nd Wife of Isaac W. HULL: ........ +Sarah, m: Bef. 1830 ... 2 Samuel HULL, b: 14 May 1809 Fayette, PA d: 24 Aug 1866 Butler, OH, Burial: Greenwood Cem, ........ +Susannah RUTH, b: 16 Sep 1810 prob Turkey Cr, Greenbrier, VA(WV), d: 02 Nov 1868 Hamilton, Butler, OH m: Abt. 1832 OH, Burial: 04 Nov 1868 Greenwood Cem, Father: William RUTH, Mother: Jane ........ 3 Isaac HULL, b: 20 Feb 1833 Butler, OH d: 14 Mar 1883 Butler, OH, Burial: Greenwood Cem, ............. +Mary C. HUFFMAN, m: 14 Oct 1861 Butler, OH ........ 3 Martha Jane HULL, b: 14 May 1834 Butler, OH d: Sep 1884 Butler, OH, Burial: Greenwood Cem, Hamilton, Butler, OH (Lot860) ............. +John DILLON, m: 07 Aug 1856 Butler, OH ........ 3 William Johnson HULL, b: 03 Jun 1837 , Butler, OH ............. +Mary Ann MARTIN, b: 04 Jan 1838 Springdale, Springfield Twp., Hamilton, OH m: 17 Jan 1861 , Butler, OH Father: George O. MARTIN, Mother: Sarah R. SENTENEY ........ 3 John HULL, b: 22 Oct 1838 IN, Burial: Greenwood Cem, Hamilton, Butler, OH (Lot 742) ........ 3 Nancy Ann HULL, b: 1840 Butler, OH ............. +Stephen E. GIFFEN, m: 07 Mar 1867 Butler, OH ........ 3 Eveline HULL, b: 07 Aug 1845 Butler, OH d: 22 Nov 1895 Butler, OH, Burial: Greenwood Cem, ............. +Charles E. DURST, m: 08 Dec 1869 Butler, OH ........ 3 Samuel P. HULL, b: 25 Oct 1847 Butler, OH, ............. +Sarah ........ 3 Daniel HULL, b: 1849 Butler, OH d: 1851 ........ 3 Lewis Albert HULL, b: 04 Nov 1851 Butler, OH d: 11 Dec 1891 Butler, OH, Burial: Greenwood Cem, Hamilton, Butler, OH (Lot 742) ............. +Katie V. KINSINGER, d: 05 Dec 1928, m: 15 Sep 1875 Burial: Greenwood Cem, Hamilton, Butler, OH ........ 3 Mary A. HULL, b: 28 Dec 1853 Butler, OH d: 16 Jul 1867 (Consumption), Butler, OH Burial: Greenwood Cem, Hamilton, Butler, OH (Lot 742) ........ 3 Jacob M. HULL, b: 24 Jan 1856 Butler, OH d: 24 Jul 1880 Butler, OH ............. +Sue W. MILLIKEN, m: 05 Nov 1878 Butler, OH

On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 14:30:15 EST, Sftrail@aol.com wrote: >May I copy info onto my family site from a search of your site? If so, what >kind of credit to you should I use? Or do you prefer not to have it copied? I would just use my index to reference the actual 1836 maps or the 1834 re-appraisal. Use those as the actual sources. -- Dennis Kowallek Hanover Twp., Butler Co. kowallek@iglou.com ******************

Thank you so much, Dennis. This is such a handy tool for family historians and other researchers to use. May I copy info onto my family site from a search of your site? If so, what kind of credit to you should I use? Or do you prefer not to have it copied? Here's my example: _http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~vlwest/george/1836-land.html_ (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~vlwest/george/1836-land.html) so I could add comments as suggested in your original search form. But it would be no problem to remove this file for your copyright. Thanks again, and Merry Christmas. Nancy

Thank you so much for doing this this searchable database. Mark Gilbert West Chester Township -----Original Message----- From: kowallek@iglou.com To: ohbutler@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 8:14 AM Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER] [OHBUTLER-L] McBride's 1836 Plat Maps... I have completed transcribing the names from McBride's 1836 Plat Maps of Butler County. The searchable database has over 2800 entries. You can query this database at... http://kowallek.myiglou.com/butler/butler-plat-search.htm Merry Christmas! -- Dennis Kowallek Hanover Twp., Butler Co. kowallek@iglou.com ****************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

I have completed transcribing the names from McBride's 1836 Plat Maps of Butler County. The searchable database has over 2800 entries. You can query this database at... http://kowallek.myiglou.com/butler/butler-plat-search.htm Merry Christmas! -- Dennis Kowallek Hanover Twp., Butler Co. kowallek@iglou.com ******************

I found this on ancestry. Let me know if any match and I will pull it up for you. Sandi Exact Search Results - Ohio Marriages, 1803-1900 You searched for David Phillips from 1823 - 1902 Refine your search Historical RecordsViewing 1-11 of 11 View Record Name Spouse Marriage Date County State View Record PHILLIPS, DAVID B. GORSELINE, SARAH 20 Dec 1866 Coshocton OH View Record PHILLIPS, DAVID STRAHL, IANTHA M. 3 Apr 1856 Belmont OH View Record PHILLIPS, DAVID SCATTERDAY, ADALINE 1 Mar 1849 Belmont OH View Record PHILLIPS, DAVID CARLISLE, ABIGAIL 5 Jan 1854 Columbiana OH View Record PHILLIPS, DAVID E. SCOFIELD, LOUISA J. 28 Nov 1891 Belmont OH View Record PHILLIPS, DAVID BUSHANAN, MARY 5 Oct 1860 Holmes OH View Record PHILLIPS, DAVID BATTENFIELD, SARAH M. 21 Feb 1861 Henry OH View Record PHILLIPS, DAVID FITZPATRICK, PRISCILLA 28 Dec 1851 Jackson OH View Record PHILLIPS, DAVID D. MORGAN, ELIZABETH 11 May 1855 Gallia OH View Record PHILLIPS, DAVID R. WELLS, FLORENCE M. 9 Jun 1868 Shelby OH View Record PHILLIPS, DAVID H. MURRAY, SARAH L. 1 Sep 1871 Preble OH -----Original Message----- From: ohbutler-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohbutler-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of srose Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 9:04 PM To: OHBUTLER@rootsweb.com Subject: [OHBUTLER] Ross, Butler, OH Philips surname 1800's 1. My 3GGrandfather was David Phillips, born about 1823 in Ohio. 2. I found a listing at familysearch.org for a David Phillips b: 26 Sep 1823 in Ross, Butler, Ohio / d: 10 Mar 1902 Swan, Marion, IA. This one has the right birth date and state, but the wife's name is different that I was looking for. 3. On the death transcript for his son Charles M. Philips; it lists his mother as M. Cisco of OH, and his father as D. Phillips of IA I wonder if one of these is the first wife and the other the second wife, and which would be the mother of Charles M. Also: I wonder if these are two different families, with two different David's. 4. I find David on the 1860 Clay, Marion, Ia Census with wife Mary A. and son, Charles M. David 37 born in Ohio Mary A. 37 born in Ohio Charles M. 06 born Clay, Marion, Iowa I have not been able to find anything else with David, Mary, and Charles M. Please let me know if you have anything on this family. Does anyone happen to know anything about this family? thank you very much, Sarah ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sarah, I found this old entry on the Butler County site. Maybe this is your David. PHILLIPS (David). From: - Kelle Metz (Feb 11, 1999) Looking for David PHILLIPS b c1825 possibly Butler Co. OH. went to Parke Co. IN. and was schoolteacher there in 1850. Any help with this dead end will really be appreciated. Kelle Metz Sandi Deaton-Kneer Orlando, FL -----Original Message----- From: ohbutler-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohbutler-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of srose Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 9:04 PM To: OHBUTLER@rootsweb.com Subject: [OHBUTLER] Ross, Butler, OH Philips surname 1800's 1. My 3GGrandfather was David Phillips, born about 1823 in Ohio. 2. I found a listing at familysearch.org for a David Phillips b: 26 Sep 1823 in Ross, Butler, Ohio / d: 10 Mar 1902 Swan, Marion, IA. This one has the right birth date and state, but the wife's name is different that I was looking for. 3. On the death transcript for his son Charles M. Philips; it lists his mother as M. Cisco of OH, and his father as D. Phillips of IA I wonder if one of these is the first wife and the other the second wife, and which would be the mother of Charles M. Also: I wonder if these are two different families, with two different David's. 4. I find David on the 1860 Clay, Marion, Ia Census with wife Mary A. and son, Charles M. David 37 born in Ohio Mary A. 37 born in Ohio Charles M. 06 born Clay, Marion, Iowa I have not been able to find anything else with David, Mary, and Charles M. Please let me know if you have anything on this family. Does anyone happen to know anything about this family? thank you very much, Sarah ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bob, Thanks for this lead, even though my David ended up in Iowa, I'll check this out - you just never know. Thanks again, yours is the first response I've received and I appreciate your help. Sarah ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Kneer" <bkneer@worldnet.att.net> To: <ohbutler@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [OHBUTLER] Ross, Butler, OH Philips surname 1800's > Sarah, > > I found this old entry on the Butler County site. Maybe this is your > David. > > PHILLIPS (David). From: - Kelle Metz (Feb 11, 1999) > Looking for David PHILLIPS b c1825 possibly Butler Co. OH. went to Parke > Co. IN. and was schoolteacher there in 1850. Any help with this dead end > will really be appreciated. Kelle Metz > > Sandi Deaton-Kneer > Orlando, FL > > -----Original Message----- > From: ohbutler-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:ohbutler-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of srose > Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 9:04 PM > To: OHBUTLER@rootsweb.com > Subject: [OHBUTLER] Ross, Butler, OH Philips surname 1800's > > 1. My 3GGrandfather was David Phillips, born about 1823 in Ohio. > > 2. I found a listing at familysearch.org for a David Phillips b: 26 Sep > 1823 in Ross, Butler, Ohio / d: 10 Mar 1902 Swan, Marion, IA. This one > has the right birth date and state, but the wife's name is different > that I was looking for. > > 3. On the death transcript for his son Charles M. Philips; it lists his > mother as M. Cisco of OH, and his father as D. Phillips of IA > I wonder if one of these is the first wife and the other the second > wife, and which would be the mother of Charles M. > Also: I wonder if these are two different families, with two different > David's. > > 4. I find David on the 1860 Clay, Marion, Ia Census with wife Mary A. > and son, Charles M. > > David 37 born in Ohio > Mary A. 37 born in Ohio > Charles M. 06 born Clay, Marion, Iowa > I have not been able to find anything else with David, Mary, and Charles > M. > > Please let me know if you have anything on this family. Does anyone > happen to know anything about this family? > > thank you very much, > Sarah > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHBUTLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >