Liisa, I have Herbert's name as Hubert. I have always supposed he was named after Hubert Clement, who was from the same area as the Louiso/Loiseau family and accompanied them on the ship from Belgium. Although we have never found the name of that particular ship. Were the Hubers from Switzerland? Mary in Georgia, USA [email protected] Our Family Kudzu Vine http://community.webtv.net/granmary/family