Thank You , This sounds like it could be, Just ind "Hamer" an odd name, and I did not now till after my grandfather past away what his full name was. He was grandpa to me and P.H. to everyone else. Don't think anyone new what the initals stood for!!!! Again, Thank You Diane <a href="http://community.webtv.net/DINE119/TheNealFamilyofOhio">