Was wondering if the Stephen HODGIN researchers have family connections to Irving Addison HODGIN and his wife Nettie CRANE HODGIN? Both were born in the 1860's in the village of Somerton in Belmont County, and died there in the 1940's. Irving HODGIN served a term in the Ohio legislature in 1915-16 representing Belmont County, and managed a bank in the town of Somerton. Irving and Nettie were my great-aunt and uncle. Martha CRANE, BISHOP, DETLING, MILLS, PALMER, SKINNER, WHITE, WITHERSPOON

Thanks Glenda and Sandra. I really appreciate your thoughtfulness in looking this information up in your books/records. It's been a long time since I put out a query on the Hodgin's (didn't get any answers then). People like you both are what makes genealogy fun. Donna Williams Kentch in South Dakota

In a message dated 5/25/2004 8:06:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > I looked in the early Ohio tax records, in Belmont, for Hodgin, and didn't > find any for 1806, but did find what may be another spelling - Hudgeon....a > Wm. In 1810 there is a Stephen and a Wm Hodgen, listed in Warren twp. > In THE CENTENNIAL HISTORY OF BELMONT CO, it say "Wm Hodgin came > prospecting, from Georgia, and arranged with Jonathan Taylor to secure a > secton of land, the smallest amt then subject to entry. As they returned to > Ga, they had to swim their horses through all unfordable streams this side > of Cincinnati>" In 1803 Wm came again, accompanied by Stehen Hodgins, and > others." > > Sandra > Hi Sandra and List: I have this on the HODGIN family of Belmont Co, OH. ---------------------------------- SOURCE: TOMBSTONE INSCRIPTIONS & FAMILY RECORDS OF BELMONT CO, OH; by E W Powell; pub 1969 OH; pg 35, 202, 278 - Bethesda Cemetery #3 Goshen Twp, Old Ebenezer Cemetery (at FHL SL #US/CAN/977.193/V3p) Belmont County, Ohio Pioneers Warren Township (Barnesville Area) - "ROBERT HODGIN, son of Wm. Hodgin b. in Georgia. The Hodgins with other Quaker families came from Augusta, Ga. to this Twp. in 1803. Wm. d. in N.C. while enroute to Ga. at age of 54. His wife was Agnes Childrey who d. at age of 74. They had: May, John, Sarah, Wm., Martha, Laban, Robert, Rebecca & Stephen. Several came here with parents. Robert b. here in 1805; m. in 1828 in N.C. Eunice Starbuck, b. in N.C. dau. of George & Elizabeth; here in 1806. George Starbuck d. in 1815 at age 41 and his wife d. at age of 74. Robert & Eunice had: John, Rachel, Elisha, Mary, Lydia, Eunice, Elizabeth & George." (pg 202) Friends Stillwater Meeting House, Belmont County, OH: "HODGIN, WM. and son Stephen from Ga. with group 1803." (pg 278) =========================== Hope it helps. - Glenda Frank Moser LINGO * BOLON * BURTON * EVANS * PAXSON * POWNALL * McKINLEY * MARTIN * WHITE * KENT * RALSTON * GRIFFITH * OWENS * STUART * WILSON * GARRETT * TOLES *

Another very valuable tool is to get copies of topographic maps of the area. If you get the township, and section number from the older maps, you can easily transfer that to new maps using the same section numbers. Usually, there aren't many differences from the older maps to new ones. Topozone.com can show you maps of the area with hills, valleys, and water located on them. Many fields are shown also. Using the older maps and the new ones, you can typically get the exact location of an old farm line. I've done this several times and had good luck with it. It takes some time to learn to read all out of the topo maps, but they are very useful. Once you get the right location, make sure to use the 1:25,000 scale for the best resolution. Bruce

I looked in the early Ohio tax records, in Belmont, for Hodgin, and didn't find any for 1806, but did find what may be another spelling - Hudgeon....a Wm. In 1810 there is a Stephen and a Wm Hodgen, listed in Warren twp. In THE CENTENNIAL HISTORY OF BELMONT CO, it say "Wm Hodgin came prospecting, from Georgia, and arranged with Jonathan Taylor to secure a secton of land, the smallest amt then subject to entry. As they returned to Ga, they had to swim their horses through all unfordable streams this side of Cincinnati>" In 1803 Wm came again, accompanied by Stehen Hodgins, and others." Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 5:50 PM Subject: [OHBELMON-L] Stephen HODGIN & Rebecca MARTIN - Belmont Co, OH > In a message dated 5/25/2004, "Kentch's" <[email protected]> writes: > > > I'm also researching in Belmont county but haven't tried locating old > > family land yet. The HODGIN's (Stephen &William) helped settle the area in 1805 > > or so coming up from Wrightsville, Georgia to resettle a Quaker community. > > > > I have Stephen HODGIN, son of Wm., who m. Rebecca MARTIN (dau. of Isaac > MARTIN & Martha WILSON) in my database - would this be the same family that you are > researching? This is a collateral line for me as I come down from Isaac > MARTIN & Martha WILSON > son Amos MARTIN. > > MARRIAGE: "HODGEN, STEPHEN - MARTIN, REBECCA - 15 Mar 1832 Belmont OH" > > Bethesda, Old Ebenezer Cemetery: "Hodgen, Stephen - 1874 ae65" > > Are we looking at the same families?? I have no children at this time for > this couple. Do you know if they had chidlren? > > Hope to hear more - Glenda > Glenda Frank Moser > FTM: The Glenda Frank Moser Genealogy Site > The MOSER / FRANK Family Tree - at RootsWeb's WorldConnect Project > All My Posts at Find A Grave-GFM > The MOSER / FRANK Family Tree - Gencircles >

In a message dated 5/25/2004, "Kentch's" <[email protected]> writes: > I'm also researching in Belmont county but haven't tried locating old > family land yet. The HODGIN's (Stephen &William) helped settle the area in 1805 > or so coming up from Wrightsville, Georgia to resettle a Quaker community. > I have Stephen HODGIN, son of Wm., who m. Rebecca MARTIN (dau. of Isaac MARTIN & Martha WILSON) in my database - would this be the same family that you are researching? This is a collateral line for me as I come down from Isaac MARTIN & Martha WILSON > son Amos MARTIN. MARRIAGE: "HODGEN, STEPHEN - MARTIN, REBECCA - 15 Mar 1832 Belmont OH" Bethesda, Old Ebenezer Cemetery: "Hodgen, Stephen - 1874 ae65" Are we looking at the same families?? I have no children at this time for this couple. Do you know if they had chidlren? Hope to hear more - Glenda Glenda Frank Moser FTM: The Glenda Frank Moser Genealogy Site The MOSER / FRANK Family Tree - at RootsWeb's WorldConnect Project All My Posts at Find A Grave-GFM The MOSER / FRANK Family Tree - Gencircles

Glenda I'm pretty sure this is the same family. Although the Stephen Hodgin in my husband's line is an uncle to the one you are researching. Your Stephen Hodgin was the son of William Hodgin & Agnes Childery ( I and my Stephen is his brother. I don't have a great lot on William's kids but will tell you what I know. l have names for 11 children in that family. I'll get back with you by later today or tomorrow after I look it up. (Just got in and it's dinner time) A lot has been written about William and Stephen Hodgin's family. Donna Williams Kentch in South Dakota

At the library in St. Clairsville are two books - the first is the 1888 Atlas (Plat map book) for Belmont Co. This shows land owners for the year of 1888. They may also have a copy of the 1868 map, I'm not sure. When you locate the property you need to find, compare it to the current Belmont Co. plat map book, put out every two years by the county engineers dept. You should be able to locate any property this way. Kim ----- Original Message ----- From: "MStead" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 11:23 AM Subject: [OHBELMON-L] Identifying farm property > > In late June and early July, I will be fulfilling a > long time dream of visiting Monroe County where my > Hunckler/Hunkler and Wegemer/Wagnoner/Wagner > relatives lived. > I have the coordinates of Michael Hunckler's > (gg grandfather) 40 acre farm property in Malaga Township- North > East quarter, of the North East quarter of Section 24 > in Township 6, or range 6. In addition, I am hoping to > learn the exact location of the land his sons, John (g grandfather) > and Michael, Jr., lived on as well as the farm property of the > Wagoner's. I know from Census information the farms > were very close to each other. > My question is, if I go to the County Courthouse > in Woodsfield, will they be able to tell me exactly where > these properties were and who owns the property now? > Is it unrealistic to hope that current owners will allow me > to take pictures? > Thanks! > > Martha Stead > San Diego > >

A thought: Perhaps someone mentioned this & I missed it , ... In Wisconsin, we have "plat maps" books that may be purchased from the county office. This shows the current owners. If there are many within a subdivision, the county office's job is to make a print of the subdivision you are interested in. If it's full of apartments, that's another story. Hope this helps. It would be polite to give advance notice, prior to your visit, to have a print out made of who it is that now lives at the range/section that you have. You might stop at the top of the day to "order" a copy and return later in the day or next day as well. I know there are times I want to review some probate records, for example, in a particular WI county, so I will stop by, fill out the requiired form, then let them know I will return in a month or so to look at the records. In this way, they can "retrieve" them when someone is available to dig through boxes. In your case, write ahead to let them know what you want, and that you will be coming to visit ... aprox dates, .... etc. Well, happy hunting. You are getting lots of good ideas I see. :-) Mary Beth in Wisconsin On 24.05.2004 at 08:35:39, MStead <[email protected]> wrote:> > In late June and early July, I will be fulfilling a > long time dream of visiting Monroe County where my > Hunckler/Hunkler and Wegemer/Wagnoner/Wagner > relatives lived. > I have the coordinates of Michael Hunckler's > (gg grandfather) 40 acre farm property in Malaga Township- North > East quarter, of the North East quarter of Section 24 > in Township 6, or range 6. In addition, I am hoping to > learn the exact location of the land his sons, John (g > grandfather) > and Michael, Jr., lived on as well as the farm property of the > Wagoner's. I know from Census information the farms > were very close to each other. > My question is, if I go to the County Courthouse > in Woodsfield, will they be able to tell me exactly where > these properties were and who owns the property now? > Is it unrealistic to hope that current owners will allow me > to take pictures? > Thanks! > > Martha Stead > San Diego > >

In a message dated 5/24/2004 8:35:04 AM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Good luck with this.....I just had the same experience in Belmont County, and found a map that showed the different ranges, parcels, etc., but no way of equating it to modern day locations..... the illustration I saw had no roads, etc...just streams and a few town names...and, the folks at the courthouse were no help with this, either..... etc. The Belmont Historical Society has a reproduction of at least one old atlas that I have seen, and shows the landowners of that time as well as some identifying landmarks such as towns. I was able to pinpoint exact locations from the land descriptions. I haven't actually checked at the courthouse but I would be surprised if a relatively current atlas is not available. I have certainly found them to be available in some other Ohio counties that I have checked. Perhaps the problem is with how the courthouse employees view people seeking genealogical and historical information. When I visited the courthouse last summer I was left with the impression that some departments there considered genealogy information seekers a nuisance who were interfering with "more important" work.

Good luck with this.....I just had the same experience in Belmont County, and found a map that showed the different ranges, parcels, etc, but no way of equating it to modern day locations..... the illustration I saw had no roads, etc...just streams and a few town names...and, the folks at the courthouse were no help with this, either..... To find where it actually was I would have to take a modern county map and try to figure out where the parcels, etc would be, which was beyond my scope of expertice....to find who owns the land now will require you to follow the land itself through land records, deeds, sales, from one owner to the next.....this is often not possible, for often times land is passed on to relatives without benefit of legalities. Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [OHBELMON-L] Identifying farm property > In a message dated 5/24/2004 6:36:01 AM Pacific Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > I have the coordinates of Michael Hunckler's > (gg grandfather) 40 acre farm property in Malaga Township- North > East quarter, of the North East quarter of Section 24 > in Township 6, or range 6. In addition, I am hoping to > learn the exact location of the land his sons, John (g grandfather) > and Michael, Jr., lived on as well as the farm property of the > Wagoner's. I know from Census information the farms > were very close to each other. > My question is, if I go to the County Courthouse > in Woodsfield, will they be able to tell me exactly where > these properties were and who owns the property now? > Is it unrealistic to hope that current owners will allow me > to take pictures? > > The northeastern section of Ohio was the first part of the United States > that used the rectangular system for survey based on fixed meridians, rather > than the old metes and bounds system. The area of this survey was called the > First Seven Ranges, and included all of Monroe County. With the detailed land > descriptions you have, the courthouse should be able to pinpoint those > parcels of land exactly on a county atlas. > Neil E. > Folsom, CA >

I'm also researching in Belmont county but haven't tried locating old family land yet. The HODGIN's (Stephen & William) helped settle the area in 1805 or so coming up from Wrightsville, Georgia to resettle a Quaker community. Here in South Dakota a county will compile and print an Atlas of farm lands. It shows townships and range numbers and map numbers on each township map, by sections with names of who owns what part of each section. They will show where towns are and where schools are located. I have one going back to 1911 and I've seen newer ones. If you can't get any help at the courthouse your best bet would be to find out where the older local people go to have coffee/lunch in a town near where you are searching and just bring your map and ask someone to help you read it. If people in Ohio are like people in South Dakota, especially the farmers and ranchers, they all know the land and who owns it now and who used to own it and where it's located.

In a message dated 5/24/2004 6:36:01 AM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I have the coordinates of Michael Hunckler's (gg grandfather) 40 acre farm property in Malaga Township- North East quarter, of the North East quarter of Section 24 in Township 6, or range 6. In addition, I am hoping to learn the exact location of the land his sons, John (g grandfather) and Michael, Jr., lived on as well as the farm property of the Wagoner's. I know from Census information the farms were very close to each other. My question is, if I go to the County Courthouse in Woodsfield, will they be able to tell me exactly where these properties were and who owns the property now? Is it unrealistic to hope that current owners will allow me to take pictures? The northeastern section of Ohio was the first part of the United States that used the rectangular system for survey based on fixed meridians, rather than the old metes and bounds system. The area of this survey was called the First Seven Ranges, and included all of Monroe County. With the detailed land descriptions you have, the courthouse should be able to pinpoint those parcels of land exactly on a county atlas. Neil E. Folsom, CA

Neil, I have always wondered and wanted to do the same thing ! Cathy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 8:03 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [OHBELMON-L] Identifying farm property In a message dated 5/24/2004 6:36:01 AM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I have the coordinates of Michael Hunckler's (gg grandfather) 40 acre farm property in Malaga Township- North East quarter, of the North East quarter of Section 24 in Township 6, or range 6. In addition, I am hoping to learn the exact location of the land his sons, John (g grandfather) and Michael, Jr., lived on as well as the farm property of the Wagoner's. I know from Census information the farms were very close to each other. My question is, if I go to the County Courthouse in Woodsfield, will they be able to tell me exactly where these properties were and who owns the property now? Is it unrealistic to hope that current owners will allow me to take pictures? The northeastern section of Ohio was the first part of the United States that used the rectangular system for survey based on fixed meridians, rather than the old metes and bounds system. The area of this survey was called the First Seven Ranges, and included all of Monroe County. With the detailed land descriptions you have, the courthouse should be able to pinpoint those parcels of land exactly on a county atlas. Neil E. Folsom, CA

Can anyone identify the Mary Averly found on the 1870 census of Belmont Co pg 223 Bellaire, Pultney Twp? Isaac Everly who lived in Richland Twp in 1870 had a sister named Mary of about the same age. Isaac Everly's wife, Martha Shank had some connection to the Julia Shank enumerated on the same page as Mary Averly in Pultney Twp. I have not yet been able to untangle that puzzle. Thanks Terri Walker http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=terjess

I have an ancestor, William M. CLINE, who died 26 March 1891 in Ferry View, Belmont Co. His wife was Nancy NORMAN, and he had 13 children. -- Would there be an obit on him at that time? -- If so, is there someone who could look it up; I'd pay copying/mailing charges? Thanks, Sharon

Sorry for sending this to the wrong List!! Martha >Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 08:23:02 -0700 >To: [email protected] >From: MStead <[email protected]> >Subject: Identifying farm property > > > In late June and early July, I will be fulfilling a >long time dream of visiting Monroe County where my >Hunckler/Hunkler and Wegemer/Wagnoner/Wagner >relatives lived. > I have the coordinates of Michael Hunckler's >(gg grandfather) 40 acre farm property in Malaga Township- North >East quarter, of the North East quarter of Section 24 >in Township 6, or range 6. In addition, I am hoping to >learn the exact location of the land his sons, John (g grandfather) >and Michael, Jr., lived on as well as the farm property of the >Wagoner's. I know from Census information the farms >were very close to each other. > My question is, if I go to the County Courthouse >in Woodsfield, will they be able to tell me exactly where >these properties were and who owns the property now? >Is it unrealistic to hope that current owners will allow me >to take pictures? > Thanks! > >Martha Stead >San Diego

In late June and early July, I will be fulfilling a long time dream of visiting Monroe County where my Hunckler/Hunkler and Wegemer/Wagnoner/Wagner relatives lived. I have the coordinates of Michael Hunckler's (gg grandfather) 40 acre farm property in Malaga Township- North East quarter, of the North East quarter of Section 24 in Township 6, or range 6. In addition, I am hoping to learn the exact location of the land his sons, John (g grandfather) and Michael, Jr., lived on as well as the farm property of the Wagoner's. I know from Census information the farms were very close to each other. My question is, if I go to the County Courthouse in Woodsfield, will they be able to tell me exactly where these properties were and who owns the property now? Is it unrealistic to hope that current owners will allow me to take pictures? Thanks! Martha Stead San Diego

Claudine, Sorry, but none of them are noted in "Death Record Transcriptions of Bellaire Health Dept., Bellaire, Belmont County, Ohio - 1909-1920." Bonnie Burkhardt [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 7:10 AM Subject: [OHBELMON-L] Birth Look-up > I'm hoping to find a birth record for the following people: > > Paul B. Moore b. abt. 1895 > Glenn H. Moore b. abt. 1905 > Marjorie Moore b. abt. 1908 > Lois V. Moore b. abt. 1919 > > Parents - Lore Moore & Virginia "Jenny" Davis Moore. > > They lived in Bellaire. > > Thank you, > Claudine >

Does anyone have the address for the current CTGS website? The last address I had (http://www.geocities.com/ctgswebsite/index.html) isn't active anymore... Thanks, Patty Drummond Jenkins