Rick, I've been very impressed with Higginson's books. The Webster volumes are far better than Allen County's collection. Although you do make a good point it will arrive much faster and having a CD that you can do a search on is superb. Beats the heck out of thumbing through page after page. Charlie Mays -----Original Message----- From: Richard Gant <rggant@nwinfo.net> To: OHBELMON-L@rootsweb.com <OHBELMON-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, June 17, 2000 1:20 PM Subject: [OHBELMON-L] Re: OHBELMON-D Digest V00 #158 >It should be noted that the 1880 Watkins "History of Belmont and Jefferson Cos." is available on Family Tree Maker CD 450, along with numerous other OH histories. It retails for $50. This is a more inexpensive method to obtain the same >information and a lot quicker to obtain than waiting for them to xerox the book. I have obtained hard copies from Higginson and they are fair reproductions, but take a considerable time to acquire. I also have CD 450 and it works well. > >Regards, >Rick Gant > > > >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> #1 [OHBELMON-L] "History of Belmont & ["The Howells" <lhowell@wk.net>] >> #2 [OHBELMON-L] Belmont and Jefferson ["donna seletyn" <indianrun@1st.net] >> >> Subject: [OHBELMON-L] "History of Belmont & Jefferson Cos., OH," >> Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 17:19:13 -0700 >> From: "The Howells" <lhowell@wk.net> >> To: OHBELMON-L@rootsweb.com >> >> Hello Everyone, >> I noticed in a post someone spoke of a book called the "History of Belmont & >> Jefferson Cos., OH," . >> Could some one tell me how I can get a copy of this book? >> Don Howell >> >> ______________________________ >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- - >> >> Subject: [OHBELMON-L] Belmont and Jefferson Counties >> Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 21:45:05 -0400 >> From: "donna seletyn" <indianrun@1st.net> >> To: OHBELMON-L@rootsweb.com >> >> You can purchase THE HISTORY OF BELMONT AND JEFFERSON COUNTIES from Higginson book company! The book cost $68.00 and has 611 pages. They have a web site where you can print out an order form. www.higginsonbooks.com >> When you get to there page just do a search on OHIO and then scroll down to Belmont County to find the book!! It takes six to ten weeks for the book to arrive. I just got mine two weeks ago. I hope this helps Donna indianrun@1st.net > >

It should be noted that the 1880 Watkins "History of Belmont and Jefferson Cos." is available on Family Tree Maker CD 450, along with numerous other OH histories. It retails for $50. This is a more inexpensive method to obtain the same information and a lot quicker to obtain than waiting for them to xerox the book. I have obtained hard copies from Higginson and they are fair reproductions, but take a considerable time to acquire. I also have CD 450 and it works well. Regards, Rick Gant > > > Today's Topics: > #1 [OHBELMON-L] "History of Belmont & ["The Howells" <lhowell@wk.net>] > #2 [OHBELMON-L] Belmont and Jefferson ["donna seletyn" <indianrun@1st.net] > > Subject: [OHBELMON-L] "History of Belmont & Jefferson Cos., OH," > Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 17:19:13 -0700 > From: "The Howells" <lhowell@wk.net> > To: OHBELMON-L@rootsweb.com > > Hello Everyone, > I noticed in a post someone spoke of a book called the "History of Belmont & > Jefferson Cos., OH," . > Could some one tell me how I can get a copy of this book? > Don Howell > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [OHBELMON-L] Belmont and Jefferson Counties > Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 21:45:05 -0400 > From: "donna seletyn" <indianrun@1st.net> > To: OHBELMON-L@rootsweb.com > > You can purchase THE HISTORY OF BELMONT AND JEFFERSON COUNTIES from Higginson book company! The book cost $68.00 and has 611 pages. They have a web site where you can print out an order form. www.higginsonbooks.com > When you get to there page just do a search on OHIO and then scroll down to Belmont County to find the book!! It takes six to ten weeks for the book to arrive. I just got mine two weeks ago. I hope this helps Donna indianrun@1st.net

You can purchase THE HISTORY OF BELMONT AND JEFFERSON COUNTIES from Higginson book company! The book cost $68.00 and has 611 pages. They have a web site where you can print out an order form. www.higginsonbooks.com When you get to there page just do a search on OHIO and then scroll down to Belmont County to find the book!! It takes six to ten weeks for the book to arrive. I just got mine two weeks ago. I hope this helps Donna indianrun@1st.net

Hello Everyone, I noticed in a post someone spoke of a book called the "History of Belmont & Jefferson Cos., OH," . Could some one tell me how I can get a copy of this book? Don Howell

Hey all - Someone was asking about the Family History Library in Salt Lake. Check out the new Family Tree Magazine (August 2000 edition) it has a good article on it...even tells local restaurants, malls, atm locations, and has a map of the library floors.... perfect timing! Teri (Henderson) Garety Researching: OH - Henderson, Barcus, Coffman, Sutton MI - Garety, Losik, Walker, Decker, Gavassi Simone KS - Losik

I thought I would share these web sites I just found out about. CA Birth Index http://userdb.rootsweb.com/ca/birth/search.cgi CA Death Index http://userdb.rootsweb.com/ca/death/search.cgi TX Vitals http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/graphics/texas.html -- Bonnie Burkhardt <burkhard@flash.net> <bburkhardt@juno.com> Let the threads that weave meaning through our yesterdays strengthen the tapestry of our tomorrows. Researching: ALLENDER - OH>WI HYETT - PA>OH ARBO - NB, CAN>MN KEYSER - PA>OH ARCHIBALD - NS, CAN LASHLEY - NY?>OH BERGMAN - DEU>KY>OH>? LONG - PA>OH BURDICK - NY PERVORSE - NY>MI BURKHARDT - DEU>OH PORTER - NB?, CAN DEBRULER - MD RICE - NY>MI DELINE - CAN>MI STERNBACHER - DEU HOLDEN - NY STONE - CAN>MI HATHORN - MD>OH

Thanks to everyone who responded with suggestions regarding my upcoming opportunity to visit the NARA. For those who asked, yes, I was referring to the one in DC. A lot of people responded and so I would like to send this note of appreciation to everyone. Every single person who sent me ideas or suggestions thought of including something that no one else had. It will all be so helpful since my time will be so limited (I wish I could spend 2 weeks instead of 1 day!). Again, thanks so much to each and every one of you who shared your experiences, ideas, and suggestions with me. I truly appreciate the time you took to respond. Patti

These were in the current "The Report" quarterly publication of the OGS, Spring 2000 Vol. 40, # 1 Taken from "Portrait & Biographical Album of Louisa Co., IA" COWLES, Joseph T. - born 5 Jun 1826 Belmont Co., OH, s/o Rev. Salmon (CT) and Polly MINER (NY) who had 10 children, living are: Salmon Jr., Lucinda STEWART, Henry; 1840 to IA; married 2 Oct 1851 Elizabeth CHAPMAN (Westmoreland Co., PA); Elizabeth d. in Jan 1883. Ch.: Laura DODSON, Albert E., Jennie E. GRIM, and another child died in infancy. Joseph remarried Feb 1887, Mrs. Delia A. HUPP. (542) GAMBLE, Hon. Andrew - born 1 Aug 1816, Belmont Co., OH, s/o William and Margaret NIXON GAMBLE (Ireland); 1845 in Union Co., IN; 1847 to Louisa Co., IA; married Ellen COLTON (b. 2 Apr 1835, Adams Co., PA) 17 Jan 1864, d/o Patrick and Hannah TIMMONY COLTON; to Keithsburg, IL and back to Louisa Co., IA; died 6 Apr 1876. Ch.: Eva E. FOGARTY, Kate C. TURNER, Emma, William, Margaret PARMETER, Andrew H., Nanna M., John C., James N., Josie D., and Edward B. (559) I think the numbers in parenthesis are the page numbers. -- Bonnie Burkhardt <burkhard@flash.net> <bburkhardt@juno.com>

Would anyone out there possibly have a Monroe County 1840 census with a breakdown of the numbers of individuals in each age group? The reel of microfilm that arrived today, was an index only - with just page and twsp. If available, I really would appreciate knowing about the two families listed below: Thomas Jorden/an, pg 25 Green Twsp James Cofland/Copland, pg 10 Jackson Twsp. Thanks in advance for any help that might be coming this way. Eleanor McCain 70461.221@compuserve.com

Good point from R.Jeffers USA (Ret) "(There really is something very special about handling the original files with the documents and signatures that cannot be replicated...)" This can give you goosebumps ! Yes, the military records (especially Civil War) are excellent at NARA. I have looked at MANY CW Pension files and Service Records at NARA in DC and have always got my files in less than 3 hours (hopefully this has not changed). It is best to submit these requests in the morning so you have time to view and copy the records on the same day. The availability of census records is also excellent. There free blank forms and don't forget to check out the books in the back room. There are also Ship records and maps. Based on my experience at NARA in DC, I found a big difference in the help from one individual to another. If you don't get good answers, try another person. The good people will stand out. The NARA in DC is open Tue, Thur and Fri evenings too. There is a not bad (price & food) deli across the street from NARA in DC - The Metro Deli - and benches outside at the Navy Memorial (sometimes a band too). If you get the opportunity, plan on checking out the DAR Genealogy Library. $5.00 admission but it is worth it. A lot of state information and many family genealogys available. No evening hours. Original Messages - Patti, I frequent the NARA in DC and have also visited the NARA in College Park (University of Maryland). What specifically would you like to research? Civil War and Census records are wonderful sources of information. If you have a Civil War Veteran to research, you must submit a request to view the file and return later in the week to review & copy the file. Otherwise, they will copy the file and mail it to you for a fee. (There really is something very special about handling the original files with the documents and signatures that cannot be replicated...) But to lessen any concerns you may have, there are usually numerous, highly knowledgeable college volunteers and employees on-site to assit in your research. That is the sole purpose of their work. Opening dates and hours are at: http://www.nara.gov/nara/dc/Archives1_directions.html I hope this helps. Regards, R.Jeffers USA (Ret) ----Original Message Follows---- From: Doug and Patti Ensor <ensor@spocom.com> To: OHBELMON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [OHBELMON-L] National Archives Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 08:58:32 -0700 I will have the chance to visit the National Archives for a day at the end of June. I don't know where to start looking for Ohio info. Any suggestions? At one time, someone who worked there was on this list - if you still are reading, please write to me separately from the list. If anyone has visited the archives and can give me some suggestions, I would dearly love to hear from you. Patti >>

At 08:58 AM 6/12/00 -0700, you wrote: >I will have the chance to visit the National Archives for a day at the end >of June. I don't know where to start looking for Ohio info. Any suggestions? Here is my advice, based on years of research at the National Archives: 1. Before you go, make a written list of what you want to look for -- census years for which state/counties and which families, military service records, pensions, passenger lists, whatever. Prioritize. If you are doing 1880 or later censuses, convert your names to soundex code before you go, and write the codes on your "to do" list (this is for the index searches.) Do as much index work as you can before you go; but if you can't get it all done, the National Archives has indexes for 1880, 1900, 1910, and 1920 censuses on microfilm and many published indexes in book form for miscellaneous earlier censuses for most states. 2. If you are going to look at War of 1812 or Civil War records (most of which have to be looked at in the original), put your requests in early (before 10:30 a.m.). You need to know the unit and/or certificate numbers (there are indexes if you don't already know these.) It takes time to get these records to the central research room (about an hour and a half), so do other things while you are waiting. You will also have to get a researcher ID card to look at original records (not necessary for the microfilm room where the censuses and indexes are.) Make sure you have a quarter for your locker. The copy machines take debit cards which you can buy with "clean" bills from machines, or you can get one at the cashier's office on the first floor. The cards are non-refundable, so don't put any more into one than you are likely to use. 3. On a one-day visit passenger lists are a waste of time unless you know the exact ship your ancestor came on, or unless it is the main reason you are coming to the archives. Only some years and some ports are indexed. Save this task for last. 4. There is no parking to speak of near the Archives. Take the subway to the Navy Memorial/National Archives station (yellow and green lines), or, if the weather is nice and you are coming in on the blue or orange line, you can get off at Federal Triangle and walk three blocks down Pennsylvania Avenue. 5. There is a lunch room in the basement with a limited selection of sandwiches, yogurt and so on. You are welcome to brown bag there, and they have snack and drink vending machines. No eating in the research rooms, of course. 6. Your bags will have to be searched when you go in and when you leave, so don't take anything more than what you need. Don't bring any original documents with you (like birth, marriage or death certificates, etc.) Make sure you have a picture ID, such as a driver's license. 7. Don't be shy about asking the staff and volunteers for help. That's what they are there for. Happy hunting! Susan M.

Sallie, Just a few words of advice. First of all, even though your person died in 1847, he lived a long, long time before that. He bought and sold land, some of it presumably to his children. These transactions are found in the deeds, and some of them even in that Vol. G to which I referred earlier. He was also involved in other people's wills. He was a justice of the peace and also witnessed many other documents. Some of these documents might give you a clue as to who his associates were. Some of them might even turn out to be relatives. And even if he didn't have a will per se, he had an estate which had to be settled. In addition to Bonnie's good lead about looking at the deeds to see how the land was distributed following his death, you still want to look at those estate records. Often they will give you (or confirm) spouses' names, possibly brothers' or sons' names if they were asked to serve as an administrator. And don't overlook the estate sales where you might see family gathering to purchase some of grandpa's old things. So don't despair because of his failure to provide a will. They are often easy references, but you can glean a lot from the other sources as well. Hope this might help you not be too discouraged. Lorraine On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 20:32:22 -0700 Sallie Cleave <sallie@vol.com> writes: > Just my luck. The person I'm researching died May 1847. > > Thanks for the info tho'. I will keep this in my file for future > reference. > > Sallie > > lorraineq@juno.com wrote: > > > On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 20:18:53 -0700 Sallie Cleave <sallie@vol.com> > writes: > > > Can anyone tell me how to search for a will in Belmont Co.? > Please > > > keep > > > in mind, I am in California. *smile* > > > > > > Thanks for any help you can give. > > > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Sallie, Just a few words of advice. First of all, even though your person died in 1847, he lived a long, long time before that. He bought and sold land, some of it presumably to his children. These transactions are found in the deeds, and some of them even in that Vol. G to which I referred earlier. He was also involved in other people's wills. He was a justice of the peace and also witnessed many other documents. Some of these documents might give you a clue as to who his associates were. Some of them might even turn out to be relatives. And even if he didn't have a will per se, he had an estate which had to be settled. In addition to Bonnie's good lead about looking at the deeds to see how the land was distributed following his death, you still want to look at those estate records. Often they will give you spouses' names, possibly brothers' or sons' names if they were asked to serve as an administrator. And don't overlook the estate sales where you might see family gathering to purchase some of grandpa's old things. So don't despair because of his failure to provide a will. They are often easy references, but you can glean a lot from the other sources as well. Hope this might help you not be too discouraged. Lorraine On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 20:32:22 -0700 Sallie Cleave <sallie@vol.com> writes: > Just my luck. The person I'm researching died May 1847. > > Thanks for the info tho'. I will keep this in my file for future > reference. > > Sallie > > lorraineq@juno.com wrote: > > > On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 20:18:53 -0700 Sallie Cleave <sallie@vol.com> > writes: > > > Can anyone tell me how to search for a will in Belmont Co.? > Please > > > keep > > > in mind, I am in California. *smile* > > > > > > Thanks for any help you can give. > > > > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Bill wrote: > Bonnie, What info do you have onAbner Hoge (1785-1868)--moved to Belmont County in 1805 from > Loudoun County Virginia Thomas Rawlings Hoge (1817-1905)Born and lived in Belmont > County? Wendell Phillips Hoge (!868-1939)born in Belmont County? Thanks BonnieBill Bill, What do you want me to look in? I have several resources for Belmont Co. If it is the book "History of Belmont & Jefferson Cos., OH," the only Hoges I have indexed in my bios. index is George W. Hoge who was in St. Clairsville and John C. Hoge, who was in Flushing Twp. I can look in the general index for you that I have on film, if you like. Let me know. I have corresponded with someone before who is researching HOGE. His name is Robert McLeod and his e-mail addy is <romcleod@nyx.net> or was the last I knew. I think he monitors this mail list or he did once. -- Bonnie Burkhardt <burkhard@flash.net> <bburkhardt@juno.com> Let the threads that weave meaning through our yesterdays strengthen the tapestry of our tomorrows. Researching: ALLENDER - OH>WI HYETT - PA>OH ARBO - NB, CAN>MN KEYSER - PA>OH ARCHIBALD - NS, CAN LASHLEY - NY?>OH BERGMAN - DEU>KY>OH>? LONG - PA>OH BURDICK - NY PERVORSE - NY>MI BURKHARDT - DEU>OH PORTER - NB?, CAN DEBRULER - MD RICE - NY>MI DELINE - CAN>MI STERNBACHER - DEU HOLDEN - NY STONE - CAN>MI HATHORN - MD>OH

Carole Dutton Malisiak wrote: > Bonnie, > Are there any Duttons in this book? > Carole > > Carole, There are no Duttons that I have in my index for the bios. in Belmont Co. There may be Duttons in the general index. Do you want me to check that? I ask because it is on film...not an easy look through as in a book. -- Bonnie Burkhardt <burkhard@flash.net> <bburkhardt@juno.com> Let the threads that weave meaning through our yesterdays strengthen the tapestry of our tomorrows. Researching: ALLENDER - OH>WI HYETT - PA>OH ARBO - NB, CAN>MN KEYSER - PA>OH ARCHIBALD - NS, CAN LASHLEY - NY?>OH BERGMAN - DEU>KY>OH>? LONG - PA>OH BURDICK - NY PERVORSE - NY>MI BURKHARDT - DEU>OH PORTER - NB?, CAN DEBRULER - MD RICE - NY>MI DELINE - CAN>MI STERNBACHER - DEU HOLDEN - NY STONE - CAN>MI HATHORN - MD>OH

Sallie Cleave wrote: > Sandra: > > I'm wanting to search for a possible will of Isaac Moore who d. May 1847 > in Belmont Co. > > Sallie Sallie, There are 2 Isaac Moores listed in "OH Wills & Estates to 1850; An Index" for Belmont Co. Isaac Will 1835 will book F, page 149 Isaac Estate 1847 case 2195 Doesn't look like there is a will for Isaac who died in 1847. Land records may tell you something. If he owned land, there there was probably deeds recorded after his death to family members. -- Bonnie Burkhardt <burkhard@flash.net> <bburkhardt@juno.com> Let the threads that weave meaning through our yesterdays strengthen the tapestry of our tomorrows. Researching: ALLENDER - OH>WI HYETT - PA>OH ARBO - NB, CAN>MN KEYSER - PA>OH ARCHIBALD - NS, CAN LASHLEY - NY?>OH BERGMAN - DEU>KY>OH>? LONG - PA>OH BURDICK - NY PERVORSE - NY>MI BURKHARDT - DEU>OH PORTER - NB?, CAN DEBRULER - MD RICE - NY>MI DELINE - CAN>MI STERNBACHER - DEU HOLDEN - NY STONE - CAN>MI HATHORN - MD>OH

Patti, I frequent the NARA in DC and have also visited the NARA in College Park (University of Maryland). What specifically would you like to research? Civil War and Census records are wonderful sources of information. If you have a Civil War Veteran to research, you must submit a request to view the file and return later in the week to review & copy the file. Otherwise, they will copy the file and mail it to you for a fee. (There really is something very special about handling the original files with the documents and signatures that cannot be replicated...) But to lessen any concerns you may have, there are usually numerous, highly knowledgeable college volunteers and employees on-site to assit in your research. That is the sole purpose of their work. Opening dates and hours are at: http://www.nara.gov/nara/dc/Archives1_directions.html I hope this helps. Regards, R.Jeffers USA (Ret) ----Original Message Follows---- From: Doug and Patti Ensor <ensor@spocom.com> To: OHBELMON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [OHBELMON-L] National Archives Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 08:58:32 -0700 I will have the chance to visit the National Archives for a day at the end of June. I don't know where to start looking for Ohio info. Any suggestions? At one time, someone who worked there was on this list - if you still are reading, please write to me separately from the list. If anyone has visited the archives and can give me some suggestions, I would dearly love to hear from you. Patti ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Sandra: I'm wanting to search for a possible will of Isaac Moore who d. May 1847 in Belmont Co. Sallie

Faith Van Schaik wrote: > Hi Bonnie, > > Could you send the info. on LEMMON, Wilson Postmaster at Colerain. Thank you > for everything. > You and Pam have been working so hard and helping everyone. Thank you again. > Faith, History of Belmont & Jefferson Cos., OH, by J. A. Caldwell, pub. 1880 Colerain Twp. Bios. pgs. 388-390 WILSON LEMMON is a native of Lancaster Co., PA and is a son of John and Latitia LEMMON. He was born on the 15th of December, 1809, and came to Belmont Co. in 1842. Ten years previous, in 1832, he was married to Sarah Ann HAWKINS; they have had 10 children, seven of who are still living. Mr. Lemmon has held the office of Postmaster at Colerain for several years. John LEMMON, his oldest son, resides in the same township, and is engaged in manufacturing carriages and wagons. -- Bonnie Burkhardt <burkhard@flash.net> <bburkhardt@juno.com>

Can anyone tell me how to search for a will in Belmont Co.? Please keep in mind, I am in California. *smile* Thanks for any help you can give. Sallie