In a message dated 9/27/2006 11:55:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dcarder2@woh.rr.com writes: He is not listed in the Allen County births index but that doesn't mean that he couldn't have been born here, only that the parents didn't go to the courthouse and have his recorded. Did they live here or were they just visiting? Do the censuses show his place of birth as Ohio and what is given as his birth place on his death certificate? Those should help you pinpoint it. Robert George Neese's mother was Ella McBeth, (1864)( on 1900 Census in Lima OH) a little confusing as she is then married 7 years to JAMES McBeth...Robert's father was James Neese (probably a little older) will you check the Allen County births and see if they were born in Lima OH? All census, marriage record, SSN & Draft registration show OH as his place of birth. Feb 12, 1884. Thank you ever so much...Kay