Please read the copyright laws. All published, compilations of public records and all published materials, including newspapers are copyrighted for 120 years. I'm sorry that people misunderstood what Mark was saying & I hope that he does not take his website down because he has material on it that is not published and not readily available to many people. All genealogy societies and many private individuals do compilations of public records. This is for the convenience of those who cannot go to the cemeteries themselves or know where to get the records. Cemetery books are not just listings of the stones, but normally include the funeral home records, burial permits, information from stones that are illegible or missing. We do not claim anyone else's work. It is a lot of work for the compilers of such work to obtain the actual records and compile such books. Most societies or individuals who do such publications do not make a profit. All the price of the publication does is cover the cost of publishing it. No one forces anyone to buy such compilations. You can contact the Society and request lookups or track down all the records on your own, however, some cemeteries and funeral homes no longer exist and many people don't know how to find these records. Compilers of public records are doing a service to help. There is no greed involved. Also, take note, the Genealogy Society did not ask Mark to remove his cite, only not to directly copy material from our books or use the material without citing his source. Debbie Carder Mayes http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102 www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102 www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norita Moss" <mossnb1@earthlink.net> To: <ohallen@rootsweb.com>; "Mark Gierhart" <markg@watchtv.net>; <ohallen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [OHALLEN] Allen County Cemetery Webpage Updates > How anyone could take public records and claim them as their work is be on > me. So many genealogists have worked so hard to preserve their and our > heritage for our families. This leaves a bad taste for many of to share > our info with anyone else. Mark I feel so bad for you and the rest of us > and angry that greed is keeping our " Public" Records from helping > someone > else!!!!! > > Norita Shepherd Moss > Homosassa, FL > mossnb1@earthlink.net > Find out what God would have you do, > And do that little well; > For what is great and what is small > The Lord alone can tell.___Anon > EarthLink Revolves Around You. > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Debbie Carder <dcarder2@woh.rr.com> >> To: Mark Gierhart <markg@watchtv.net>; <ohallen@rootsweb.com> >> Date: 1/27/2007 6:19:20 PM >> Subject: Re: [OHALLEN] Allen County Cemetery Webpage Updates >> >> Mark, >> I think you should keep your website because you have info on the >> cemeteries that we have not published and the locations and pictures. I >> think that what you do is a great service for people and I refer people > to >> your website frequently. It would be a shame to take it down. >> I see no reason why there is not "room" for both. There are many >> cemeteries in Allen County that we have not read and published yet. > There >> are the old readings in notebooks at the museum library that are not >> copyrighted. You could use these for listings on your website. That way, >> those that are not available in published books would be out there for >> people who need the information. >> We're all doing the same thing (genealogy). I hope that we can all work >> together to accomplish the goals of getting the information to the > public. >> I would encourage you to keep your website but continue as you have in > the >> past doing listings for the other cemeteries that are not readily > available. >> Debbie Carder Mayes, Vice-president, Allen County Genealogy Society >> >> http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html >> >> www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102 >> >> www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102 >> >> www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/ >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mark Gierhart" <markg@watchtv.net> >> To: <mossnb1@earthlink.net>; <ohallen@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 5:27 PM >> Subject: Re: [OHALLEN] Allen County Cemetery Webpage Updates >> >> >> >I will write a quick reply and statement, and then move on. >> > >> > About 6 years ago before I designed and built The Allen County >> > Cemetery Website, I contacted the Allen County Genealogy Society >> > asking for permission to web publish (post) information from their >> > Cemetery >> > Books.. At that time there was no Copyright listed within the books, >> > and >> > I felt this was a common courtesy thing to do.. I got a return e-mail > from >> > the President (at that time) of the Society stating that there was no >> > problem >> > with doing so... >> > >> > A week ago, of course after I posted that I was starting to update my > site >> > with additional information, the present President e-mails me stating >> > Copyright >> > issues with me posting such information.. There is now a statement on >> > their >> > website, stating that both present and past books fall under this >> > Copyright >> > material law.. I might add it is dated 1-20-2007.. >> > >> > I do understand they are selling these books online to make money for > the >> > Society, so I have agreed to remove all of my posted information from >> > the website. I imagine RootsWeb will completely remove the site soon. >> > >> > Thanks to everyone for visiting the website, and good luck with your >> > searches. >> > >> > Oh yeah - Please continue supporting your local Genealogy Societies.. >> > >> > Mark >> > >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Norita Moss" <mossnb1@earthlink.net> >> > To: <ohallen@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 2:08 PM >> > Subject: Re: [OHALLEN] Allen County Cemetery Webpage Updates >> > >> > >> >> >> >> I have just went to Mark's site and found he is not doing anymore work > on >> >> his great cemetery page. Please tell me this is a mistake Mark!!!! > This >> >> is >> >> one of the few places where I can confirm Allen County family. If it > is >> >> true than may I thank you for all of us who have enjoyed the info you >> >> have >> >> provided us all these years. Thanks for all the hard work. >> >> >> >> Norita Shepherd Moss >> >> Homosassa, FL >> >> mossnb1@earthlink.net >> >> Find out what God would have you do, >> >> And do that little well; >> >> For what is great and what is small >> >> The Lord alone can tell.___Anon >> >> >> >> >> >> EarthLink Revolves Around You. >> >> >> >> >> >>> [Original Message] >> >>> From: Mark Gierhart <markg@watchtv.net> >> >>> T >> >>> Date: 1/20/2007 10:46:24 PM >> >>> Subject: [OHALLEN] Allen County Cemetery Webpage Updates >> >>> >> >>> I have just finished adding the following Downloadable Spreadsheets > to >> >>> my >> >> Cemetery Webpage: >> >>> >> >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohalncem/cemetery.html >> >>> >> >>> Richland Twsp. - Old Swiss/Old Mennonite Cemetery >> >>> >> >>> Spencer Twsp. - West Union Cemetery >> >>> >> >>> I hope to have finish the very large Spencerville Cemetery and then >> >>> start >> >> on Amanda Twsp... >> >>> >> >>> I am also adding spreadsheets to all of the already posted >> >>> cemeteries. >> >> This will give you >> >>> something that can be printed out on your home printer. >> >>> >> >>> I'll keep everyone posted. >> >>> >> >>> Mark Gierhart >> >>> >> >>> Visit the Allen County OHGenWeb site. >> >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/ >> >>> ------------------------------- >> >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> OHALLEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> >> quotes >> >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> Visit the Allen County OHGenWeb site. >> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> OHALLEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> > >> > Visit the Allen County OHGenWeb site. >> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/ >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > OHALLEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> Visit the Allen County OHGenWeb site. >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHALLEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > Visit the Allen County OHGenWeb site. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHALLEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message