This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZYB.2ACI/911 Message Board Post: I am looking for a Elmer Vandiver burried in Liberty Chapel Cemetery. I have a partial Orbit on him but can not find him listed on the online listings.It states he was being burried in Liberty Chapel instead of Walnut Hill Cemetery. I am looking for any information on him and his family. thanks Laura

Dear Debbie, Thank you for your comments. I already have her obit from Canton, and it did not list any survivors at all. That leads me to believe either she never had kids, or her kids all died before she did, or the Obit was simply not complete. I have read many obits which never listed kids, even when there were plenty living, so some times the Obit is not enough. I am guessing that Maggie Miller did not have kids, but I want to be sure and not just guess. If anyone has further info on her and any of her 3 husbands I would love to hear from them. Best regards, Lilly Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbie Carder" <dcarder2@woh.rr.com> To: <ohallen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 11:27 PM Subject: Re: [OHALLEN] Maggie Miller b. 1859 PA, married: Northrup, Rice,Mumaugh > Since you know her date of death, you could see if she had an obituary in > the Canton paper and if she did,get a copy and it should list her > children. > Debbie Carder Mayes > > http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html > > www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102 > > www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102 > > www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lilly Martin" <malik@scs-net.org> > To: <OHALLEN@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 7:09 AM > Subject: [OHALLEN] Maggie Miller b. 1859 PA, married: Northrup, Rice, > Mumaugh > > >> Maggie Miller b. 8-4-1859 OH or PA. she died 4-19-1943 Canton, Stark Co >> OH. >> >> Her parents were John D. Miller b. 1823 Wurttemburg and Margaret Werner >> b. >> 1820 Wurttemberg, they lived from at least 1880 to 1900 (they both died a >> few years after) in Perry Twsp, Allen Co OH. (I have never found them in >> 1860 or 1870 census reports, I looked in PA and OH. In 1870 their eldest >> daughter Mary E. Miller was a live-in servant in Salem, OH and their >> eldest >> son John D. Miller, Jr was working in Youngstown, OH) >> >> Maggie Miller first married John H. Northrup b. 1861 OH. In the 1880 >> census >> John and Maggie were in Lima, OH working at the Flax Mill. Either he >> died, >> or they divorced. >> >> Maggie Miller secondly married George W. Rice on 4-6-1881 Allen Co OH. >> He >> was born June 24-1861 Magoffin Co KY, his parents were John J. Rice and >> Sarah Colvin. In the 1880 census George W. Rice is listed as married to >> Catherine, and they have kids: William, Harry, B. B., Fred, George. >> Presumably, George was widowed and he married Maggie Miller secondly. >> >> Maggie Miller married thirdly to David R. Mumaugh b. 9-26-1841 Fairfield >> Co >> OH, he died 1-13-1893 Lima, Allen Co OH. He is buried at Woodlawn >> Cemetery, >> Lima, OH David was first married to Charity Osman b. 11-3-1841 Bath, >> twsp, >> Allen Co OH, she died 1-13-1882 Lima, OH. Then David married Maggie >> Miller >> on 10-11-1885 Allen Co OH. >> David and Charity had 5 children( Rosa; Fanny; George; Richard; Della) , >> but >> I don't think David and Maggie had any children, I do not know. >> >> Maggie Miller applied in 1893 for the widow pension on David Mumaugh's >> Civil >> War Service. >> >> In 1900 census Maggie Miller Northrup Rice Mumaugh was living at Canton, >> Stark Co OH with Mary A. Tritch. From at least 1900 through until her >> death >> in April 19, 1943 she lived in Canton, OH. >> >> I would like to hear from anyone else who might be related to any of >> these >> names here. Especially I would like to confirm if Maggie had any >> children. >> Best regards, >> Lilly Martin >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> OHALLEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHALLEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Debbie, Thank so much for this information. I wonder if there is anyone who might be going to the courthouse who might look up my ancestor in the 1886 Voter registration Roll? It does not have to be only the 1886 year specifically, it could be any year from 1880 thru 1900, as those were years I know he was alive and living in Allen Co OH. Let me tell you how I found out about the 1886 voter registration record: as I recall, I was looking online in Chicago for a totally different relative, and all of a sudden up came a list of 1886 voter registration roll for Cook Co IL. I am was able to find my relative and his son and his brother, and they all gave immigration information which was precious to know. My ancestor John D. Miller b. 1823 Wurttemberg arrived about 1852 in Erie, Erie Co PA, this is according to our family legend. I have never found any information on him or his family in Erie, PA. So either the story is not correct, or he just didn't leave any records there. As far as I can tell, he was living in America from 1852 to 1880, and it was the 1880 census in which I first found him in Lima, OH. (Perry twsp). I would assume his immigration papers were filed somewhere in Pennsylvania, but there is no telling where to look, unless I can find a statement from him, such as the 1886 voter registration roll, in which he will state when and were he filed his papers. Ellis Island records begin in 1892. In the 1852 time frame there was no Ellis Island, so immigrants arrived in Canada, New York City, Baltimore, Philadephia, and then took smaller ships on the available waterways inland, to their second destination. There are ship lists which survive, but not for all years. For example, this John D. Miller and his wife and daughter might have arrived in New York City in 1852, then took a sloop up the Hudson River all the way North to Albany, then transfer to the Erie Canal, which connected Albany, NY to the Great Lakes, they could have sailed directly from Albany NY to Erie, PA. If my family story is correct, this could have been the way they came. Once they arrived in Erie, PA John would have perhaps filed what is called FIRST PAPERS, which are filed at the COUNTY courthouse, then he would have applied for citizenship after 5 years of filing the FIRST papers. The final citizenship papers would have been filed also at the COUNTY level, or in some cases at the STATE courthouse. But there were also so many, many immigrants who lived long lives in America but never, ever filed any immigration papers, and in fact on census reports they are listed as answering NO to the question of whether they have become a citizen. Also, I found many ancestors filed FIRST papers in one location, and then filed their final immigration papaers in a far removed location, and so it is just hit-and-miss trying to find records. Prior to Ellis Island there was Castle Garden in New York City, but the records are not all available. www.castlegarden.org This is prior to 1892, but this will NOT have all the thousands, if not millions, who came thru other locations than New York City. There were so many who came first to Canada, because that was a CHEAPER ticket, then took a ship into America, for example to Philadephia. So your ancestor's first port might be Philly, and they might have never have seen New York City! Also, Canada to New Orleans direct, Canada to Boston direct, so the Castle Garden records are only limited to New York City, and that was not the only place they could land, in fact it was only 1 of many, many places. www.ellisislandrecords.com This is 1892 onward. http://www.stevemorse.org This uses the Ellis Island records, but allows a much better search method. Please Note: If there is anyone reading this who is having trouble with Ellis Island searches, please email me back, I have become very expert in this, because I help people find their SYRIAN ancestors, and I can give you some personal help and pointers, or at least just give you some support in trying to find your people. I hope this information might help others who are facing difficult immigrations searches. Best regards, Lilly Martin Lattakia, Syria ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbie Carder" <dcarder2@woh.rr.com> To: <ohallen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 11:36 PM Subject: Re: [OHALLEN] Voter Registration Rolls > 1886 voter registrations are not in any of the local libraries that I know > of but should be at the courthouse. I know that the naturalization > records > are also at the courthouse. There are also some very good websites (good > enough that professional genealogists use them) with immigration records > on > them. I can't remember without hunting them but I think that those who > immigrated before Ellis Island are on links from the Ellis Island website > or go to Steve Morse's website. It is easier to use his website to find > them, I think. > Debbie Carder Mayes > > http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html > > www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102 > > www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102 > > www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/

Lily, I don't think I can help with what you are looking for but I do have some information on Charity Osman/Osborn. If you are interested in her background, please let me know. Jannice Rasor Hubbard

Dear Lists, I am posting this report to all the various lists which are connected to Ellie Catherine Leach. I hope to hear back from anyone related to this family, or interested in any way. She was born in Salem, OH, she lived in Auglaize Co OH, and later in Allen Co OH. Her parents and some Leach relatives lived in Donora, PA. at some periods. I want to thank 3 special researchers: Karen; Sharon; Jfred. They each sent me info which has provided me the data to write this report, and I appreciate this kind help very much. If we all help each other, we can do great things. Effie Catherine Leach was born March 21, 1878 in Salem, Columbiana Co, OH. Her father was James Augustus Leach b. 2-11-1852 Salem, OH, s/o Thomas Lupton Bain Leach b. 1-25-1826 Salem, OH, s/o James W. Leach b. 1802, who lived in Salem, OH from 1809 to 1888 when he died there. Effie's mother was Mary E. Miller b. 2-23-1850 Esslingen, Germany. That is a suburb of Stuttgardt. Her parents were John D. Miller b. 10-9-1824 Wurttemberg d. 7-29-1902 Perry twsp (Lima), Allen Co OH. and Margaret Werner b. 9-6-1821 Wurttemberg, d. 1-21-1905 Perry twsp (Lima), Allen Co., OH. Effie Catherine Leach was born and raised in Salem, OH. Her maternal grandparents lived near Lima, OH. I think that Effie must have met and married Benjamin Lhamon because of visiting her grandparents, or spending time with them in summer. The name is spelled LHAMON, but in several cases it was mis-spelled as LEHMAN. The LEACH family were Methodists in Salem, OH and the MILLER family is buried at St. Paul's Evangelical Cemetery in Lima, so I would imagine that the LHAMON family were Protestants, and might be Lutheran? I suppose that Effie and Benjamin married about 1895, maybe in Columbiana Co or perhaps in Allen Co OH. In the 1900 census at Wayne twsp, Auglaize Co OH Benjamin Lhamon b. 2-1876 OH Effie 3-1879 Roberta 8-1896 Emma V. 12-1899 In the 1910 census, Union, Auglaize Co OH Benjamin D. Shamon (Lhamon) 1874 Effie C. 1878 Roberta 1897 Emma 1900 Ralph 1901 Russel 1909 In the 1920 census, Union, Auglaize Co OH Benjamin Lhamon 1875 Effie 1879 Russel 1910 In the 1930 census, Lima, Allen Co OH Benjamin Lhamon 1874 Effie 1878 Russel 1910 Goldie 1912 (wife of Russel) On www.ancestry.com World Tree, there is a listing for Benjamin O. Lhamon b. 3-12-1874 Waynesfield, Auglaize Co OH, s/o Michael Herrod Lhamon b. 10-18-1836 OH and Mary King b. 9-14-1839 PA. Benjamin died 1948, and is buried at Fairmount Cemetery. This is the same cemetery that James A. Leach and Mary E. Miller Leach are buried at. They are the parents of Mrs. Benjamin Lhamon. This listing states Benjamin and Effie had 5 kids: Emma; Roberta; Russell; Ralph; Lydia. I would love to know more about this family, and especially any descendants of this Lhamon family. Effie C. Leach Lhamon would be my great grandfather's sister. Best regards, Lilly Martin, d/o Emily Leach, d/o Charles, s/o William, s/o James, s/o Thomas, s/o James W. Leach b. 1802 d. 1888 Salem, OH.

Keep in mind that none of this is documented. It is from a random search of Census records of Allen County, OH. 1920 census 1st ward of Lima Orthez Fisher, age 32, born OH, both parents born OH, Trimmer in a motor truck factory Effie, wife, age 32, born OH, both parents born OH Alice, daughter, age 13 born OH Mildred, daughter, age 11, born OH Darrell, son, age 9 born OH Hubert, son, age 7, born OH Richard, son, age 1 yr 10 months, born OH Surprisingly, I found a Social Security Death index for Orthez even though he was born in 1888! He lived to be 80 years old. Birth date Jan 24, 1888, death date Nov 1988, Social Security Number 299-09-0977 issued in Ohio Death residence, Toledo, Lucas County, OH 43611 This gives you enough info to check for verification that this is your family and look for documentation of birth places, obituaries which will list lots of children and other info besides the info about the individual's death, and you can check census records for all the people I have listed here for you and any other individuals you find in your continued search. An obituary from Toledo, OH for Orthez will most probably name his parents and will give you more census records to search as well as other obits you can request from various counties. A file submitted by Linda Dietz to www.rootsweb.com shows Orthez Omar Fisher married to Effie May MYERS, no dates, daughter Alice may Fisher born Oct 31, 1906 in Lima, Allen Co., OH and E. Ray Fisher with no dates. The only other info in that files is for Alice May Fisher and is copied below. Alice May Fisher Given Name: Alice May Surname: Fisher Sex: F Birth: 31 Oct 1906 in Lima, Allen Co., Ohio Death: 2 Aug 2002 in Lima, Allen Co., Ohio _UID: 5A5C97F743794D43AE7A7353CBCACC3716F5 Change Date: 30 Jul 2003 at 15:24 Father: Orthez Omar Fisher Mother: Effie May Myers Marriage 1 Bernard Burlin Bradford b: 13 Dec 1904 in Wapakoneta, Auglaize Co, Ohio Married: Change Date: 25 Jul 2006 Children Living Bradford Living Bradford Living Bradford Good luck with your research and I hope you delve deep enough into it to pass the family research on to your descendants. God Bless! Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: <TEasterwood4@yahoo.com> To: <OHALLEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:19 AM Subject: [OHALLEN] Darrell Leroy Fisher > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZYB.2ACI/909 > > Message Board Post: > > I need some assistance in completing a genealogy project for my English class. My great grandfather Darrell Leroy Fisher, was born in Lima, Ohio in 1912. He died in Toledo, Ohio in 1973.He was married to a Helen E. Fisher(maiden name unkown) they were married in 1933. This is a brick wall that I need help breaking. I would appreciate any help that anyone can give me > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHALLEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.0/465 - Release Date: 10/6/06 > >

1886 voter registrations are not in any of the local libraries that I know of but should be at the courthouse. I know that the naturalization records are also at the courthouse. There are also some very good websites (good enough that professional genealogists use them) with immigration records on them. I can't remember without hunting them but I think that those who immigrated before Ellis Island are on links from the Ellis Island website or go to Steve Morse's website. It is easier to use his website to find them, I think. Debbie Carder Mayes http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102 www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102 www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lilly Martin" <malik@scs-net.org> To: "twotone8" <twotone8@woh.rr.com>; <ohallen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 6:11 AM Subject: [OHALLEN] Voter Registration Rolls > Hello, > > I do not have ancestry.com, however, those of you that do have it, might > be > able to check and see if that 1886 voter registration rolls are an offered > database? It could be that it is available for those using ancestry.com > to > veiw those at home. Also, don't forget that at every Family History > Center > in USA, you are allowed to use ancestry.com free of charge there. So you > might be able to access it that way. > > I live overseas, so I can not go to a Family History Center Library, and I > am stuck, that is why I am asking for some help here. > > I do know that the 1886 Voter registration Roll asks several important > questions, for example: > WHEN did you immigrate to USA? > When and WHERE did you file your immigration papers? > > This question is really important to me concerning my ancestor John D. > Miller b. 1823 Wurttemberg. Because he came to USA about 1852-3 time > period > and first settled in Pennsylvania. I know he was there because his 3 > children all born in USA all consistantly state their birthplace as PA, > from > 1854 thru 1859 time period. However, I have NEVER been able to find a > CENSUS report for them in 1860, or 1870, but 1880 census they were in > Lima, > OH and again in 1900 census in Lima, OH. So where they were located in PA > is a total mystery, therefor I have no way to find their immigration > record > with out knowing first WHERE in PA to look at. > > A family story states they were in Erie, Erie Co PA prior to coming to > Ohio, > and another story says they were in Paris, Stark Co OH prior to coming to > Lima, OH. However, I have researched both locations and never found any > records for them there. > > So my Miller family are a mystery until 1880 census, yet they had been in > America from 1853 to 1880, but left no records which I could find, so far. > > I would appreciate anone who has access to the Allen Co OH 1886 voter > registration rools to look up my ancestor on it, he will be living in > Perry > Township, Allen Co OH, named John D. Miller, about 64 years old. > His son was John D. Miller, Jr he was born 1853 in PA, he was also at > Lima, > OH and his age would be about 33 years old, and he worked at the Flax Mill > in Lima. His wife was Mary Etta Giberson, and her family was from > Auglaize > Co OH originally. I have done alot of work on the Giberson name, and I > will > post that later. > > Best regards, > Lilly Martin > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "twotone8" <twotone8@woh.rr.com> > To: <ohallen@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 3:22 PM > Subject: Re: [OHALLEN] John D. Miller family of Lima, OH > > >> Voter Registration Rolls! THANKS! I never thought about those! Susan >> (Suz) >> Cruse >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Lilly Martin" <malik@scs-net.org> >> To: <OHALLEN@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:19 AM >> Subject: [OHALLEN] John D. Miller family of Lima, OH >> >> >>> John D. Miller b. 1823 Wurttemberg, married Margaret Werner b. 1820 >>> Wurttemberg. >>> >>> In the 1880 census, and thru the 1900 census, this couple lived at Perry >>> twsp, Allen Co OH. >>> >>> May I ask for someone to look at the 1886 Voter registration roll, to >>> see >>> WHAT John stated there as to when and where his immigration to America >>> took place, and where he filed his immigration papers? In that roll, he >>> should be listed as about 64 years old. >>> >>> This Voter registration roll should be at the Library, or the Historical >>> Society. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Lilly Martin >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> OHALLEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.0/464 - Release Date: >>> 10/5/2006 >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> OHALLEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHALLEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Since you know her date of death, you could see if she had an obituary in the Canton paper and if she did,get a copy and it should list her children. Debbie Carder Mayes http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102 www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102 www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lilly Martin" <malik@scs-net.org> To: <OHALLEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 7:09 AM Subject: [OHALLEN] Maggie Miller b. 1859 PA, married: Northrup, Rice, Mumaugh > Maggie Miller b. 8-4-1859 OH or PA. she died 4-19-1943 Canton, Stark Co > OH. > > Her parents were John D. Miller b. 1823 Wurttemburg and Margaret Werner b. > 1820 Wurttemberg, they lived from at least 1880 to 1900 (they both died a > few years after) in Perry Twsp, Allen Co OH. (I have never found them in > 1860 or 1870 census reports, I looked in PA and OH. In 1870 their eldest > daughter Mary E. Miller was a live-in servant in Salem, OH and their > eldest > son John D. Miller, Jr was working in Youngstown, OH) > > Maggie Miller first married John H. Northrup b. 1861 OH. In the 1880 > census > John and Maggie were in Lima, OH working at the Flax Mill. Either he > died, > or they divorced. > > Maggie Miller secondly married George W. Rice on 4-6-1881 Allen Co OH. He > was born June 24-1861 Magoffin Co KY, his parents were John J. Rice and > Sarah Colvin. In the 1880 census George W. Rice is listed as married to > Catherine, and they have kids: William, Harry, B. B., Fred, George. > Presumably, George was widowed and he married Maggie Miller secondly. > > Maggie Miller married thirdly to David R. Mumaugh b. 9-26-1841 Fairfield > Co > OH, he died 1-13-1893 Lima, Allen Co OH. He is buried at Woodlawn > Cemetery, > Lima, OH David was first married to Charity Osman b. 11-3-1841 Bath, > twsp, > Allen Co OH, she died 1-13-1882 Lima, OH. Then David married Maggie > Miller > on 10-11-1885 Allen Co OH. > David and Charity had 5 children( Rosa; Fanny; George; Richard; Della) , > but > I don't think David and Maggie had any children, I do not know. > > Maggie Miller applied in 1893 for the widow pension on David Mumaugh's > Civil > War Service. > > In 1900 census Maggie Miller Northrup Rice Mumaugh was living at Canton, > Stark Co OH with Mary A. Tritch. From at least 1900 through until her > death > in April 19, 1943 she lived in Canton, OH. > > I would like to hear from anyone else who might be related to any of these > names here. Especially I would like to confirm if Maggie had any > children. > Best regards, > Lilly Martin > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHALLEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Maggie Miller b. 8-4-1859 OH or PA. she died 4-19-1943 Canton, Stark Co OH. Her parents were John D. Miller b. 1823 Wurttemburg and Margaret Werner b. 1820 Wurttemberg, they lived from at least 1880 to 1900 (they both died a few years after) in Perry Twsp, Allen Co OH. (I have never found them in 1860 or 1870 census reports, I looked in PA and OH. In 1870 their eldest daughter Mary E. Miller was a live-in servant in Salem, OH and their eldest son John D. Miller, Jr was working in Youngstown, OH) Maggie Miller first married John H. Northrup b. 1861 OH. In the 1880 census John and Maggie were in Lima, OH working at the Flax Mill. Either he died, or they divorced. Maggie Miller secondly married George W. Rice on 4-6-1881 Allen Co OH. He was born June 24-1861 Magoffin Co KY, his parents were John J. Rice and Sarah Colvin. In the 1880 census George W. Rice is listed as married to Catherine, and they have kids: William, Harry, B. B., Fred, George. Presumably, George was widowed and he married Maggie Miller secondly. Maggie Miller married thirdly to David R. Mumaugh b. 9-26-1841 Fairfield Co OH, he died 1-13-1893 Lima, Allen Co OH. He is buried at Woodlawn Cemetery, Lima, OH David was first married to Charity Osman b. 11-3-1841 Bath, twsp, Allen Co OH, she died 1-13-1882 Lima, OH. Then David married Maggie Miller on 10-11-1885 Allen Co OH. David and Charity had 5 children( Rosa; Fanny; George; Richard; Della) , but I don't think David and Maggie had any children, I do not know. Maggie Miller applied in 1893 for the widow pension on David Mumaugh's Civil War Service. In 1900 census Maggie Miller Northrup Rice Mumaugh was living at Canton, Stark Co OH with Mary A. Tritch. From at least 1900 through until her death in April 19, 1943 she lived in Canton, OH. I would like to hear from anyone else who might be related to any of these names here. Especially I would like to confirm if Maggie had any children. Best regards, Lilly Martin

Hello, I do not have ancestry.com, however, those of you that do have it, might be able to check and see if that 1886 voter registration rolls are an offered database? It could be that it is available for those using ancestry.com to veiw those at home. Also, don't forget that at every Family History Center in USA, you are allowed to use ancestry.com free of charge there. So you might be able to access it that way. I live overseas, so I can not go to a Family History Center Library, and I am stuck, that is why I am asking for some help here. I do know that the 1886 Voter registration Roll asks several important questions, for example: WHEN did you immigrate to USA? When and WHERE did you file your immigration papers? This question is really important to me concerning my ancestor John D. Miller b. 1823 Wurttemberg. Because he came to USA about 1852-3 time period and first settled in Pennsylvania. I know he was there because his 3 children all born in USA all consistantly state their birthplace as PA, from 1854 thru 1859 time period. However, I have NEVER been able to find a CENSUS report for them in 1860, or 1870, but 1880 census they were in Lima, OH and again in 1900 census in Lima, OH. So where they were located in PA is a total mystery, therefor I have no way to find their immigration record with out knowing first WHERE in PA to look at. A family story states they were in Erie, Erie Co PA prior to coming to Ohio, and another story says they were in Paris, Stark Co OH prior to coming to Lima, OH. However, I have researched both locations and never found any records for them there. So my Miller family are a mystery until 1880 census, yet they had been in America from 1853 to 1880, but left no records which I could find, so far. I would appreciate anone who has access to the Allen Co OH 1886 voter registration rools to look up my ancestor on it, he will be living in Perry Township, Allen Co OH, named John D. Miller, about 64 years old. His son was John D. Miller, Jr he was born 1853 in PA, he was also at Lima, OH and his age would be about 33 years old, and he worked at the Flax Mill in Lima. His wife was Mary Etta Giberson, and her family was from Auglaize Co OH originally. I have done alot of work on the Giberson name, and I will post that later. Best regards, Lilly Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "twotone8" <twotone8@woh.rr.com> To: <ohallen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [OHALLEN] John D. Miller family of Lima, OH > Voter Registration Rolls! THANKS! I never thought about those! Susan > (Suz) > Cruse > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lilly Martin" <malik@scs-net.org> > To: <OHALLEN@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:19 AM > Subject: [OHALLEN] John D. Miller family of Lima, OH > > >> John D. Miller b. 1823 Wurttemberg, married Margaret Werner b. 1820 >> Wurttemberg. >> >> In the 1880 census, and thru the 1900 census, this couple lived at Perry >> twsp, Allen Co OH. >> >> May I ask for someone to look at the 1886 Voter registration roll, to see >> WHAT John stated there as to when and where his immigration to America >> took place, and where he filed his immigration papers? In that roll, he >> should be listed as about 64 years old. >> >> This Voter registration roll should be at the Library, or the Historical >> Society. >> >> Best regards, >> Lilly Martin >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> OHALLEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.0/464 - Release Date: 10/5/2006 >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHALLEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

They are not listed in the Allen Co. marriage records. The only marriage for any of these surnames is Gottlieb Meckley and Daniel Fett married October 27, 1853. Maybe one of Elizabeth's relatives? Debbie Carder Mayes http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102 www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102 www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/ ----- Original Message ----- From: <Cematapey@aol.com> To: <OHALLEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:05 AM Subject: [OHALLEN] Ulrich Loggenberger (not sure of spelling) that married an Elizabeth Makely between 1870 and 1880 > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZYB.2ACI/910 > > Message Board Post: > > Seeking information on the marriage of Ulrich Loggenberger, born in > Switzerland about 1816, and is living in Richland, Allen Co., Ohio in the > 1870 and 1880 census. In 1870 Elizabeth Makely/Meckley and her 4 year old > son Jacob are living with the family. In 1880 she is married to Ulrich. > Appreciate any help and/or suggestions. > Thank you - > Mary Ann > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHALLEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZYB.2ACI/910 Message Board Post: Seeking information on the marriage of Ulrich Loggenberger, born in Switzerland about 1816, and is living in Richland, Allen Co., Ohio in the 1870 and 1880 census. In 1870 Elizabeth Makely/Meckley and her 4 year old son Jacob are living with the family. In 1880 she is married to Ulrich. Appreciate any help and/or suggestions. Thank you - Mary Ann

You're welcome. Hope you found it. Debbie Carder Mayes http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102 www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102 www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/ ----- Original Message ----- From: <CharlotteAnneMlr@aol.com> To: <ohallen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:15 PM Subject: Re: [OHALLEN] Ohio Archives Question > > In a message dated 10/6/2006 6:26:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > dcarder2@woh.rr.com writes: > > website has a map on it somewhere of Ohio showing which counties are > included at which regional archives with links to each of those archives. > Wright State has the archives for west central and south western Ohio > (Logan, Miami, Greene, Champaign, Montgomery, Clark, maybe a few other > counties). > Debbie Carder Mayes > > > > > Debbie, > > Ok, thank you. > > Charlotte > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHALLEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 10/6/2006 6:26:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, dcarder2@woh.rr.com writes: website has a map on it somewhere of Ohio showing which counties are included at which regional archives with links to each of those archives. Wright State has the archives for west central and south western Ohio (Logan, Miami, Greene, Champaign, Montgomery, Clark, maybe a few other counties). Debbie Carder Mayes Debbie, Ok, thank you. Charlotte

Their website has a map on it somewhere of Ohio showing which counties are included at which regional archives with links to each of those archives. Wright State has the archives for west central and south western Ohio (Logan, Miami, Greene, Champaign, Montgomery, Clark, maybe a few other counties). Debbie Carder Mayes http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102 www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102 www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/ ----- Original Message ----- From: <CharlotteAnneMlr@aol.com> To: <ohallen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [OHALLEN] Ohio Archives Question > > In a message dated 9/28/2006 4:33:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > sbroach@cfl.rr.com writes: > > Charlotte, > Were you aware that Ohio is divided into different regions (I believe > there > are eight) that have the death records from 1908 and before (that were > recorded) for the counties in the area they serve? Bowling Green > University > houses the records for Northwestern Ohio including Allen county. Ohio > University has the records for Southeastern Ohio, and I do not remember > which Universities have the other regions' records. I mention this > because > you indicated you are interested in "older" death records. I was unable > to > find a record of one gggrandfather, and Bowling Green's second search did > find the record, copy and mailed it to me for a donation. This is the > link > you need to request a search. http://www.bgsu.edu/colleges/library/cac/ > I > see they now charge $20.00 for an hour of search. Steve Charter was the > man > > > > Sue, > > Ok, thank you. No I didn't know that. > > Charlotte > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHALLEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

What do you need to find about them? His birth record would be at the courthouse in the probate court office. His death certificate would be at the health department. His marriage records would also be at the probate office. If they had obituaries, the Allen Co. Museum Library and the public library both have those. There may be a family file at the museum library. The Allen County Genealogy society ahs a volunteer to help you on Wednesdays and by arrangement on other days. If you live too far to come to Lima, you can order the records you need from the courthouse, health department, and libraries by mail. If you need addresses, let me know. If I can look something up for you at the museum library, I'm the volunteer on the 2nd and 3rd Weds. of the month. Debbie Carder Mayes http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102 www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102 www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/ ----- Original Message ----- From: <TEasterwood4@yahoo.com> To: <OHALLEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:19 AM Subject: [OHALLEN] Darrell Leroy Fisher > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZYB.2ACI/909 > > Message Board Post: > > I need some assistance in completing a genealogy project for my English > class. My great grandfather Darrell Leroy Fisher, was born in Lima, Ohio > in 1912. He died in Toledo, Ohio in 1973.He was married to a Helen E. > Fisher(maiden name unkown) they were married in 1933. This is a brick wall > that I need help breaking. I would appreciate any help that anyone can > give me > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHALLEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mary Elizabeth Leach b. 12-10-1873 Salem, OH. She married Daniel B. Murphy b. abt 1867 OH, both his parents b. Ireland. In 1928 they are living at 747 Holy st, Lima, OH. I would like to know the children of Mary E. Murphy and Daniel B. Murphy. I would like to know when Mary died in Lima, OH. Best regards, Lilly Martin

John D. Miller b. 1823 Wurttemberg, married Margaret Werner b. 1820 Wurttemberg. In the 1880 census, and thru the 1900 census, this couple lived at Perry twsp, Allen Co OH. May I ask for someone to look at the 1886 Voter registration roll, to see WHAT John stated there as to when and where his immigration to America took place, and where he filed his immigration papers? In that roll, he should be listed as about 64 years old. This Voter registration roll should be at the Library, or the Historical Society. Best regards, Lilly Martin

Helen M. Leach b. 1884 Salem, OH. Married Charles L. McKinney b. about 1874 PA. In 1928 Helen McKinney, widow, lived at 757 Holly st, Lima, OH. Her children were: 1. William R. McKinney b. 1908 PA 2. Charles L. McKinney Jr b. 1911 PA 3. Helen Ruth McKinney b. 1914 PA 4. Eugene McKinney b. 1920 PA I would like to know when Helen died in Lima, OH. I would like to know more about her children, I have nothing other than the above info on them. Best regards, Lilly Martin

Lilly: I am looking for a John Miller born in Germany and lived inOhio. I am wondering would he have had 2 son named William & Frank E. Miller. My grandfather (now deceased) gave me information that his Father E Miller's father was born in Germany and was named John, but did not know his grandmother's name also born in Germany. This has been very hard to trace as grandpa only kept in contact with one of his siblings a sister. My grandfather was born in Wapakoneta, Ohio and his father Father died about age 34 around 1889. Thanks for the help Marilyn Bartenslager Greenville, KY >From: "Lilly Martin" <malik@scs-net.org> >Reply-To: ohallen@rootsweb.com >To: <OHALLEN@rootsweb.com> >Subject: [OHALLEN] John D. Miller family of Lima, OH >Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 13:19:24 +0200 > >John D. Miller b. 1823 Wurttemberg, married Margaret Werner b. 1820 >Wurttemberg. > >In the 1880 census, and thru the 1900 census, this couple lived at Perry >twsp, Allen Co OH. > >May I ask for someone to look at the 1886 Voter registration roll, to see >WHAT John stated there as to when and where his immigration to America took >place, and where he filed his immigration papers? In that roll, he should >be listed as about 64 years old. > >This Voter registration roll should be at the Library, or the Historical >Society. > >Best regards, >Lilly Martin > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >OHALLEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message