Hermon, Thanks for this info, others are likely interested so I'm forwarding your message below to the lists. Concerning the 1799 militia petition, I have always believed the "N." McDaniel was actually "V." for Valentine McDaniel -- I have found no other McDaniel-McDonald's in the area at the time with a given name beginning with "N," and V could have easily been transposed as an N. "Valentine," being a somewhat uncommon name even in those days, and multi-syllable, was more apt to be abbreviated by a cleric than a short common name. Or, possibly Valentine personally "signed" his name with an abbreviated V ? One of his early signatures for a marriage bond in Mason Co. was "Vol. Mcdannel." Where were your wife's KIRKPATRICK's and HILL's located prior to the Brown Co. OH area? Also the DAVIDSON's and DOUGHERTY's? Do you (or anyone else) know of other 1799 petition-signing surnames of the Brown Co. OH area who moved from the present Fleming Co. KY area? I'm also wondering where the above subject neighbors originated, they may have moved into Ohio area together? With the "other" Locust Creek being found in Mason Co. KY for the 1790's (only 25-30 miles south of Maysville in Fleming), I'm trying to identify as certainly as possible whether Valentine and Joseph McDaniel-McDonald were located on Locust Creek in the present Bracken area west of Augusta or on the "other" Locust Creek in the Fleming area in the 1790's -- prior to moving to the present Brown Co. OH area in the late 1790's. In this regard it is interesting to learn that Philemon Thomas transferred lands in the Bracken area. On the other hand, it seems the area west of Augusta was less inhabited than the Fleming area in the early 1790's -- although the Bracken area Locust Creek was directly across the river from present Brown County ....so?....on to more research. And I thought my research in Mason-Adams-Brown-Clermont-Hamilton counties was completed about as much as possible several years ago, except for a few minor details. Research is never complete, right? -- esp. when it comes to learning more history, which leads to more genealogy research, which..... (yeau, they're one and the same.) Valentine moved "further up" into Brown Co. later, the Eagle Creek area as I recall. I need to drag out these records. Neil McDonald (see below for Hermon Fagley's interesting comments.) -----Original Message----- From: hermfagley@juno.com <hermfagley@juno.com> To: Macbd1 <macbd1@arthur.k12.il.us> Date: Sunday, June 27, 1999 12:29 AM Subject: Re: [OHBROWN-L] Surnames: Martin-Ellis-Moore-Henry-Laycock-McConnell-McDaniel-Thomas-Crawford >Beers "HISTORY OF BROWN CO "mentions others that lived awhile up >Cornick's RUN befor moving further up STRAIGHT CREEK. And it shows a 1799 >petition of JAN 10,1799 ASKING ALEXANDER MARTIN be appointed JP,AND AND >SIMILAR,BUT NON IDENTICAL ONE ASKING MILITIA OFFICERS OF THOMAS MCCONNELL >LT JOHN MEFFORD ENSIGH AMOS ELLIS -1-10-1799. VAL PREFERED MARTIN,BUT >NOT THE MILITIA OFFICERS OOPS N. MCDANIEL SIGNED THE MILITIA >MY WIFE'S KIRKPATRICK'S M ALEX HILL'S DAU LIVED IN ADJ SURVEY FROM >1799,AND WERE AKIN TO MATHEW DAVIDSON AND THOMAS DOUGHERTY signing >petetions. valentine mcdaniel WAS WAY 1ST WAS SIGNED. PHILEMON THOMAS was >a land speculator-have seen him transferring BRACKEN CO KY LANDS. JOHN >CRWFORD was likely son of COL WM CRAWFORD,TORTURED 1782. WM MOORE WAS >ALIVE 1-10-1799 > >On Sat, 26 Jun 1999 20:18:40 -0700 "macbd1" <macbd1@arthur.k12.il.us> >writes: >>When Valentine McDaniel-McDonald moved across the Ohio River from >>Mason Co. >>KY into "Northwest Territory" in 1796-98, he settled lands of present >>Brown >>County, OH which were previously within Hamilton and Clermont >>Counties. >>Prior to this, Virginian John Crawford received acreage in this area >>for his >>Rev War service (military warrant #19.) Section #1033 of the >>Virginia >>Military District was surveyed for Crawford consisting of 836 acres -- >>it >>was very close to present Ripley, OH. Crawford sold the entire tract >>to >>Philmon Thomas who obtained a patent. Thomas then sold the land to >>the >>following persons, all transactions are recorded in Deed Book A-1 at >>the >>Clermont Co. OH courthouse. >> >>115 acres for $298 to Alexander Martin, p. 61 >>150 acres for $500 to William Ellis, p. 64 >>107-1/2 acres for $217.50 t heirs of Wm. Moore, p. 65 >>137 acres for $274 to James Henry, p. 67 >>200 acres for $400 to Wm. Laycock, p. 69 >>100 acres for $250 to Valentine McDaniel, p. 70 >>100 acres for $300 to Thomas McConnell, p. 72 >>(I know, these don't total 836 acres, see the Virginia Military >>District >>hyperlink near the bottom of this message for a possible >>explanation.) >> >>These deeds were all dated 1 Aug 1800 -- all grantees above were >>recorded as >>being "of Hamilton County" indicating they were already living there. >>(Clermont County was not formed from Hamilton until 6 Dec 1800 per my >>source.) >> >>Valentine McDaniel sold his 100 acres to Alexander Martin in 1807 and >>purchased 120 nearby acres from William Leacock. Valentine sold >>16-1/4 >>acres to Thomas McConnell in 1815. >> >>The 1876 Brown Co. Atlas is good for viewing the location of various >>"sections" of land. There were still Martin, Henry and McConnell >>people >>present in this section, as shown by "residences," in 1876 >> >>For more info concerning Virginia Military District lands, see: >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohfrankl/Land/ohl1.html#VMD . >> >>Neil McDonald