I was already long into frontier history at the time of the PATTY HEARST trial, and thought if I were her defense lawyer,I would bring up all the captives that elected to remain among the Indians. And Capt RECORDS mentions sisters who opted for differant lives. He also mentions the Baptists. While not a Baptist,I have studied their church on the frontier for years . Camped under "PRIMATIVE BAPTIST" for much of my 1992-95 PRODIGY genealogy years. From: "Faith Keahey" <keahey@cyberhighway.net> To: LONGHUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 11:06:24 -0600 Subject: Capt Spencer Records - Appendix #3 Message-ID: <001c01beb9ac$f3474400$c832a1d1@keahey> Return-path: <LONGHUNTERS-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from mx2.boston.juno.com (mx2.boston.juno.com [207.205.100.55]) by x11.boston.juno.com with SMTP id AAA5YW9ZCA2Q42A2 for <hermfagley@juno.com> (sender <LONGHUNTERS-L-request@rootsweb.com>); Fri, 18 Jun 1999 13:16:18 -0400 (EST) Received: from bl-11.rootsweb.com (bl-11.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.27]) by mx2.boston.juno.com with SMTP id AAA5YW9ZCAQQHBRJ (sender <LONGHUNTERS-L-request@rootsweb.com>); Fri, 18 Jun 1999 13:16:18 -0400 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-11.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA25235; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:15:15 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: LONGHUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:15:15 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Sender: LONGHUNTERS-L-request@rootsweb.com Resent-Message-ID: <Cg09EC.A.KKG.j6na3@bl-11.rootsweb.com> X-Status: Read X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Some time after Braddock's defeat, while the Indians were murdering and committing their cruel depradations on the frontier settlements of VA, two girls, sisters of the name of Narnett, the younger 6 and the elder some years older, were taken prisoners by the Indians. The oldest soon became reconciled to stay with them, and some time after married one of them. The younger, although but 6 years of age, never could be reconciled to stay with them; she never forgot the white people; her own name and the name of the place she was taken from, but thought that if ever an opportunity offered she would try to make her escape and get home. After having been a prisoner 12 years, she being then 18 years of age, and there being peace at that time with the white people, she thought she would try and make her escape to Fort Pitt, now Pittsburg, where the Indians often traded. But no good opportunity offered, as they never took her near there. However, one morning it was impressed on her to leave them, and an opportunity occurring so that she could slip off undiscovered, she hoppised her balnket on her back and took off on the course she saw the Indians take when they went to Fort Pitt. She travelled all day, and when night came, she looked round for a sapling that had forks and limbs, so that she could sit thereon, being afraid of wolves. She thought she could tie herself with her hoppis string, so that if she fell asleep she would not fall. She was not able to find one that answered her purpose, till it began to get dark; she then saw at a distance before her the light of a fire. Going up to it, she found an old Indian man and his squaw, who were on their way to Fort Pitt. The old man recieved her kindly, supplied her with provision, and conducted her safely to Fort Pitt. She was then among her own people, who gave her clothes, and dressed her like other white women, and assisted her so that she arrived safely at home. Shortly after her arrival, she gave Christian experience to a regular Baptist Church, was recieved and baptized. Some time afterwards she married Thomas Cummins, and lived a near neighbor to my father, about 14 miles from Fort Pitt. In 1774, Dunmore, Governor of VA, marched an army into the Indian country and held a treaty with them. They promised to bring in all the prisoners they had to Fort Pitt, which they did next spring. They brought in Susannah Cummins's sister. Cummins went to Fort Pitt and took her home, where she stayed a few days, but not being reconciled to stay, Cummins took her back to Fort Pitt, and she went off with the Indians. I have made a remark on this circumstance, which will probably not be concurred in by many. However, let that be as it may; I have ventured to make it. Although the Lord did permit the Indians to take her (Susannah), it was not his will that she be reconciled to stay with them. But when his own appointed time came, he impressed on her to start the day she did. If she had started the day before, or the day after, she would not have met with the old man at night; she might have missed her way, wandered through the woods and perished. But that could not possibly be the case. The Lord not only impressed on her to start, but caused the Indians to give her the opportunity to make her escape, and directed her way so she could meet with the old man that night, caused him to recieve her kindly, and conducted her safely to Fort Pitt. Perhaps some may say what an accident it was that she ever got home. If any of you think so, you are very much mistaken; there was no accident in it. Some may ask this question and say, Why did the Lord have more compassion on her than on her sister? Should any of you ask that question, I will ask you, Why did the Lord choose the Children of Israel from among all the nations of the earth, and give them his laws, commandments and statutes, leaving all the other nations in heathenish idolatry? I could not answer your question. I think correctly, but if I did, you might say, I was too much of a predestinarian for you. Yes, and so are the apostles and prophets. As to my political principles, I am a true Whig. The sin of loco-focoism, I have never been guilty of. In my religious principles, I am a Regular Baptist, having believed in that doctrine more than 50 years. At this time, myself and wife both belong to the Lewis creek church of Regular Baptists. Notwithstanding that I believe that the Evangelical doctrine is neither preached nor believed by any denomination on earth, except the Regular Baptists, yet I would not have you understand, that I think none will be saved but the Regular Baptists. No, I believe the Lord has people among other denominations that he will save, but not according to their Arminian principles, which are Antichristian, and always stand opposed to free grace. But all that have been quickened by the Spirit and brought from death unto life, will be saved of every sect, or if belonging to none. (Additions) Josiah departed this life on Monday 22 May 1848 aged 46, one month and 12 days. His wife Mary departed this life on Monday 22 Aug (2 or 3 ?) months after him. 1849: My wife and myself have lived together a- going on 60 yrs since the 15th of last Apr. I am 87 since 11 Dec last. Faith note: End of Spencer Records. ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.