This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Creamer Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YYB.2ACI/1677 Message Board Post: Looking for information on John Creamer b 1828; d 1902; and Elizabeth Thomas Creamer b 8 Dec 1833; d 29 Dec 1920. It appears as though they lived their whole lives in Manchester. I'm specifically looking for complete dates for John; their marriage date; John's parents names; and John and Elizabeth's children's names.