Jeanne, you say in your message below that you are wanting to learn what became of John Fife's land which was granted to him in 1800. I am by no means an expert in Kentucky or Mason Co. research; however, Bracken was formed from part of Mason in 1797, I should think subsequent land deeds for the Locust Creek area would be recorded there. Probate records for this Fife family may also reveal what happened to his land although I suspect you have researched these. Hopefully a more experienced Kentucky researcher will respond to your question, I would also like to know who made subsequent purchases within this land. Your posting shows that at least two individuals (John Fife and Nathaniel Brady) were in the process of obtaining large parcels of land on the waters of Locust Creek prior to 1792. Your posting this info is very valuable, I hesitate (only briefly) to push further. Do you perchance have any idea or leads as to where in the Locust Creek area these lands were located? These two large parcels of land (1,000 and 2,000 acres respectively) were obviously for investment or development purposes, not solely for individual use. It will be interesting to learn whether others on this list have info regarding land purchases of less acreage on the waters of Locust Creek. Ravages of Rev War inflation were indeed apparent for John Fife's land purchase, thus the expression "not worth a Continental damn" (referring to its dollar value.) While John apparently paid 400 Lb. "current money" to Virginia in 1780 (40 Virginia Lb.'s per 100 acres), Virginia sold land in the present area of southwestern Pennsylvania (re: border dispute between PA and VA) for as low as 10 shillings, or 1/2 Lb., per 100 acres in the pre-Rev War 1770's. During this time, the Penns were selling land for five PA Lb.'s per 100 acres, 10 times that of Virginia -- not considering the difference in value of the "pound" between the "states" of Virginia and Pennsylvania, both of these "state pounds" were of less value than the English Pound. The English money-naming system of pounds, shillings and pence was primarily used within the individual colonies or states for keeping financial accounts; however, debts were paid with Spanish Dollars, and its coins of 1/2, 1/4, 1/8 and 1/16, in those days -- or via barter of various sorts. Visit http://www.rootsquest.com/~amhisnet/topic/pamoney.html to learn more about money matters of colonial times, the PA-VA border dispute, research references and land-tax records. This link also contains data for many McDaniel-McDonald families of Bedford-Westmoreland-Fayette Co.'s PA during the 1700's, some of whom migrated to Kentucky and Ohio. My Valentine (and Joseph) McDaniel-McDonald moved families via flatboat from Fayette Co. PA to Mason Co. KY in 1790, and into Northwest Territory, the Adams-Brown-Clermont Co.'s area of Ohio in 1796-98. They had 50 and 40 acres respectively on the waters of Locust Creek in 1795 -- they were possibly living there during 1791-94. The old tax lists are not clear in this regard; however, I was told by a professional genealogist that several McD neighbors were surnames common to Bracken Co. (names were not listed for me when this research was conducted in 1984.) Jeanne, thank you for posting your valuable info, hopefully others will follow so that all of us may benefit from sharing our separate pieces of the puzzle. Neil McDonald -----Original Message----- From: Jean Shanelec <shanelec@ellsworth.net> To: KYMASON-L@rootsweb.com <KYMASON-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [KYMASON-L] Early Settlements or Stations - also Locust Creek >Subject: [KYMASON-L] Early Settlements or Stations - also Locust Creek > > >>It is interesting (to me) that there are no "stations" listed for the >Locust >>Creek area of present Bracken Co. KY by the following source. This area >>possibly needed more PR at the time if it were indeed settled prior to 1792 >>as most of the other referenced stations were. Has anyone found land >>records for your ancestors on "the waters of Locust Creek" in the 1790's? >>Neil McDonald > > > >12 June 1792 >By Survey for John Fife: a certain tract or parcel of land being in the >County of Mason on the waters of a large creek heading in the mountains >known by the name of Locust Creek and bounded as follows towit: etc etc to a >survey of 2000 acres made in the name of Nathaniel Brady etc. > >Records indicate the Virginia Land Office sold John Fife Treasury Warrant >#4617 on April7, 1780. This warrant authorized the surveying of 1000 acres >of unappropiated land: he paid 400 pounds current money. Although the Entry >is filed on the county level, we can determine from the Survey that the >Entry >was filed December 28, 1787. (Entries reserved specific tracts for >patenting >until the actual Survey could be made.) On June 12, 1792, W. Sudduth, >Deputy >Surveyor for Mason County, surveyed 1000 acres in Mason county for John >Fife. >Members of the surveying part were John Hamilton and Luke Hood ( chain >Carriers) and Andrew Hood (Marker). The survey was examined by H. >Lee Surveyor of Mason county. There are no assignments on the back or on >separate documents. On Feb. 10, 1800, the governor issued a Grant to John >Fife finalizing the patent . Documents were examined and the "officail" >Grant, with Governor's signature and state seal, was delivered to John W. >Howe on August 11, 1800. Fife now owned the 1000 acres. > >I would give anything to find out what happened to the above grant to John >Fife. Would these records be in Mason or Bracken County? > >Jean Fyffe Shanelec >

From: Jill Foley <jelloF@ibm.net> To: hermfagley@juno.com Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 19:26:34 -0400 Subject: Morgan's Raiders Message-ID: <37701BAA.B3875974@ibm.net> Return-path: <jelloF@ibm.net> Received: from mx5.boston.juno.com (mx5.boston.juno.com [207.205.100.54]) by x11.boston.juno.com with SMTP id AAA5ZAG93AB8X2UJ for <hermfagley@juno.com> (sender <jelloF@ibm.net>); Tue, 22 Jun 1999 19:27:53 -0400 (EST) Received: from out5.ibm.net (out5.ibm.net [165.87.194.243]) by mx5.boston.juno.com with SMTP id AAA5ZAG92A4A65VJ for <hermfagley@juno.com> (sender <jelloF@ibm.net>); Tue, 22 Jun 1999 19:27:52 -0400 (EST) Received: from ibm.net (slip129-37-209-228.oh.us.ibm.net [129.37.209.228]) by out5.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA12278 for <hermfagley@juno.com>; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 23:27:50 GMT X-Status: Read X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Mr. Fagley, I'm new at this, so if my vocabulary or wording of certain phrases is incorrect, please forgive. I belong to the genealogy lists for Adams, Brown and Scioto Counties in Ohio and Washington County, PA. The ancestors that I am researching are the Shively's and the Hazelbaker's. I have really enjoyed your wonderful contributions to all of the lists. A friend of mine recently went on an archealogical project down at Buffington Island on the Ohio River where there was a fierce battle between Morgan's Raiders and the Union Army. You can find the details at http://www.heidelberg.edu/offices/chma/buffington/ It is very interesting, although perhaps not from the genealogical standpoint, but more from just an historical perspective. I still thought you might be interested. If you think that anyone on any of the lists might be interested, be my guest in posting this info. I wasn't quite sure if it belonged there or not since there wasn't any genealogical references, and so as not to make a fool of myself, I have refrained from posting it. Keep up the good work. I truly enjoy your contributions. Loved the Capt. Spencer Records entries. Again thank you so much. Jill Foley, 245 Stone Oak Ct., Holland, Ohio 43528 (419) 861-4811 (e-mail: jelloF@ibm.net) ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

From: Jill Foley <jelloF@ibm.net> To: hermfagley@juno.com Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 19:26:34 -0400 Subject: Morgan's Raiders Message-ID: <37701BAA.B3875974@ibm.net> Return-path: <jelloF@ibm.net> Received: from mx5.boston.juno.com (mx5.boston.juno.com [207.205.100.54]) by x11.boston.juno.com with SMTP id AAA5ZAG93AB8X2UJ for <hermfagley@juno.com> (sender <jelloF@ibm.net>); Tue, 22 Jun 1999 19:27:53 -0400 (EST) Received: from out5.ibm.net (out5.ibm.net [165.87.194.243]) by mx5.boston.juno.com with SMTP id AAA5ZAG92A4A65VJ for <hermfagley@juno.com> (sender <jelloF@ibm.net>); Tue, 22 Jun 1999 19:27:52 -0400 (EST) Received: from ibm.net (slip129-37-209-228.oh.us.ibm.net [129.37.209.228]) by out5.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA12278 for <hermfagley@juno.com>; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 23:27:50 GMT X-Status: Read X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Mr. Fagley, I'm new at this, so if my vocabulary or wording of certain phrases is incorrect, please forgive. I belong to the genealogy lists for Adams, Brown and Scioto Counties in Ohio and Washington County, PA. The ancestors that I am researching are the Shively's and the Hazelbaker's. I have really enjoyed your wonderful contributions to all of the lists. A friend of mine recently went on an archealogical project down at Buffington Island on the Ohio River where there was a fierce battle between Morgan's Raiders and the Union Army. You can find the details at http://www.heidelberg.edu/offices/chma/buffington/ It is very interesting, although perhaps not from the genealogical standpoint, but more from just an historical perspective. I still thought you might be interested. If you think that anyone on any of the lists might be interested, be my guest in posting this info. I wasn't quite sure if it belonged there or not since there wasn't any genealogical references, and so as not to make a fool of myself, I have refrained from posting it. Keep up the good work. I truly enjoy your contributions. Loved the Capt. Spencer Records entries. Again thank you so much. Jill Foley, 245 Stone Oak Ct., Holland, Ohio 43528 (419) 861-4811 (e-mail: jelloF@ibm.net) ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

I, too, tried to print and/or download by txt format. What I discovered was that section of the census was a graphic in jpg format. Click anywhere on the image and you can download the image. I was was then able to view and print with a simple graphics viewer. Give it a try. Ron hermfagley@juno.com wrote: > And today,SPIRITGRNY PASSED ME > A LINK to it. And I tried downloading in either .txt format, or .html > format, so I could re-import to your lists. I was not sucessful. I'd > rather share a link,than a web address with you, but doubt I can. Soooo > > http://members.xoom.com/Clair1st/index/census/index.html

I used to own a copy of the 1790 census index of Pa, and I underlined names I knew from sw Ohio-n Ky,and no county was close to old WASHINGTON CO [GREENE and part ALLEGANY] very sw Pa . And today,SPIRITGRNY PASSED ME A LINK to it. And I tried downloading in either .txt format, or .html format, so I could re-import to your lists. I was not sucessful. I'd rather share a link,than a web address with you, but doubt I can. Soooo http://members.xoom.com/Clair1st/index/census/index.html I advise all tracing 1790's BRACKEN CO,Ky, and LEWIS Twnsp,BROWN Co. Franklin-washington-Ohio Twnsp,Clermont Co to search this index. I saw others while I was trying to download,like Christian Smith,of the Georgetown,area; Stephen Goble,whose WM was at Bethel; and the 10 mile SELLERS. Those of you tracing OHJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com, only skinny [6-10 miles] WV panhandle seperate your county from these 1790 Washington Co names ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

Saw this on kyroots and seem to recall several GROOMS researchers on this list. --------- Begin forwarded message ---------- From: Janis <firefly@CTAZ.COM> To: KYROOTS@LSV.UKY.EDU Subject: GROOM Surname Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 19:19:16 -0700 Message-ID: <376C4FA4.65E6A040@ctaz.com> The Groom Family page has many new additions. If you have a Groom/Grooms/Groome/Groomer etc. in your line please drop by and see what we have. The site is searchable! http://www.angelfire.com/mo/groomsfamilypage Thanks Janis --------- End forwarded message ---------- ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

MASON-L and LEWIS-L have been mentioning Gen John Hunt Morgan's Confederate raiders. In that brother-vs brother war, may it be noted that GEN MORGAN,and some of us here at Bethel ,Oh share RALPH HUNT,1660 Newtown,Long Island as a common ancestor. July 13-14 1863 GEN MORGAN'S men rode roughly 25 miles north of MASON-Lewis west to east about on RT 32 thru the northern portions of the river counties of sw Oh. Morgan had crossed into Indiana at BRANDENBURG,KY west of Louisville,and had routed past n Cincinnati roughly I-275. He spent the night of the 13TH at Williamsburg,Oh ,once county seat for the area just nw MASON CO. And he made a feint towards RIPLEY,Oh with part of his troops,but passed on to PIKETON,PIKE CO,OH 50 miles ne of ne LEWIS cO,kY. His men,in those several hundred miles,caused 1 only 1 death, but stole many horses and mules, and ravaged small town general stores. He was presued by a much larger UNION force-who also took horses,and store goods. I hve a quote on that Personal-On this farm,7 miles south of Williamsburg,the horses were "hidden"? in the rough,wooded, 'SUGAR CAMP" corner of the farm, while our "valuables" were hidden buried in the vegetable garden,and the garden hoed to hide soil movement. My 100 year dad is picturied in a 1970's history telling a tale. About 1910,his fishing buddy was the old man from the next farm. And George Girardy told of riding to Williamsburg to see Morgan's Raiders. And of Morgan's outlying scouts surprizing him . Evert's 1880 'History of Clermont Co,Oh ' gives 2 lists of persons losing horses,mules,goods, wtc-1 to Morgan and another to the UNION forces. Dad's so old,that he had 3 uncles b 1833-43,and ex Underground RRer,Capt Will Fagaly, was PROVOST MARSHALL. He became most hated, for it was his job to attempt to get horses to original owners. Which meant,at times, he took good horses ,now rested,left by the raiders,from a farmer,and returned the man's own horses,broken down, or none at all. George Girardy shows as having lost a horse and buggy to Morgan'S men. The idea of the raid,in part,was to pull Union troops enclosing Confederate Gen Bragg,in e TN,north protecting Cincinnati. Morgan rode thru sleepy country villages of 1000 maximum. Evans and Stievers "HISTORY OF ADAMS CO,OHIO" has some interesting articles about the raid. ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

Am looking for the wills of John Gorman/Garman died Meigs Township Nov 25, 1876. He was married to a Mary J. ??? born in Ohio in abt 1813. She is in Wyandotte County in 1880 as she shows on the census there with William and Sarah J. ???. Also looking for the will of his father Thomas and possibly his grandfather John. I know that his grandmother showed up in Franklin Township on the 1830 census so I believe they moved from Virginia soetime between 1820 and 1830. This family was in Meigs Township from abt 1815 to 1872 when my gg grandfather moved his family to Wyandotte County Kansas. Would appreciate any help I can get from someone in this area and am willing to reimburse them for any costs associated within reason. George George

I was already long into frontier history at the time of the PATTY HEARST trial, and thought if I were her defense lawyer,I would bring up all the captives that elected to remain among the Indians. And Capt RECORDS mentions sisters who opted for differant lives. He also mentions the Baptists. While not a Baptist,I have studied their church on the frontier for years . Camped under "PRIMATIVE BAPTIST" for much of my 1992-95 PRODIGY genealogy years. From: "Faith Keahey" <keahey@cyberhighway.net> To: LONGHUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 11:06:24 -0600 Subject: Capt Spencer Records - Appendix #3 Message-ID: <001c01beb9ac$f3474400$c832a1d1@keahey> Return-path: <LONGHUNTERS-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from mx2.boston.juno.com (mx2.boston.juno.com [207.205.100.55]) by x11.boston.juno.com with SMTP id AAA5YW9ZCA2Q42A2 for <hermfagley@juno.com> (sender <LONGHUNTERS-L-request@rootsweb.com>); Fri, 18 Jun 1999 13:16:18 -0400 (EST) Received: from bl-11.rootsweb.com (bl-11.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.27]) by mx2.boston.juno.com with SMTP id AAA5YW9ZCAQQHBRJ (sender <LONGHUNTERS-L-request@rootsweb.com>); Fri, 18 Jun 1999 13:16:18 -0400 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-11.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA25235; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:15:15 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: LONGHUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:15:15 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Sender: LONGHUNTERS-L-request@rootsweb.com Resent-Message-ID: <Cg09EC.A.KKG.j6na3@bl-11.rootsweb.com> X-Status: Read X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Some time after Braddock's defeat, while the Indians were murdering and committing their cruel depradations on the frontier settlements of VA, two girls, sisters of the name of Narnett, the younger 6 and the elder some years older, were taken prisoners by the Indians. The oldest soon became reconciled to stay with them, and some time after married one of them. The younger, although but 6 years of age, never could be reconciled to stay with them; she never forgot the white people; her own name and the name of the place she was taken from, but thought that if ever an opportunity offered she would try to make her escape and get home. After having been a prisoner 12 years, she being then 18 years of age, and there being peace at that time with the white people, she thought she would try and make her escape to Fort Pitt, now Pittsburg, where the Indians often traded. But no good opportunity offered, as they never took her near there. However, one morning it was impressed on her to leave them, and an opportunity occurring so that she could slip off undiscovered, she hoppised her balnket on her back and took off on the course she saw the Indians take when they went to Fort Pitt. She travelled all day, and when night came, she looked round for a sapling that had forks and limbs, so that she could sit thereon, being afraid of wolves. She thought she could tie herself with her hoppis string, so that if she fell asleep she would not fall. She was not able to find one that answered her purpose, till it began to get dark; she then saw at a distance before her the light of a fire. Going up to it, she found an old Indian man and his squaw, who were on their way to Fort Pitt. The old man recieved her kindly, supplied her with provision, and conducted her safely to Fort Pitt. She was then among her own people, who gave her clothes, and dressed her like other white women, and assisted her so that she arrived safely at home. Shortly after her arrival, she gave Christian experience to a regular Baptist Church, was recieved and baptized. Some time afterwards she married Thomas Cummins, and lived a near neighbor to my father, about 14 miles from Fort Pitt. In 1774, Dunmore, Governor of VA, marched an army into the Indian country and held a treaty with them. They promised to bring in all the prisoners they had to Fort Pitt, which they did next spring. They brought in Susannah Cummins's sister. Cummins went to Fort Pitt and took her home, where she stayed a few days, but not being reconciled to stay, Cummins took her back to Fort Pitt, and she went off with the Indians. I have made a remark on this circumstance, which will probably not be concurred in by many. However, let that be as it may; I have ventured to make it. Although the Lord did permit the Indians to take her (Susannah), it was not his will that she be reconciled to stay with them. But when his own appointed time came, he impressed on her to start the day she did. If she had started the day before, or the day after, she would not have met with the old man at night; she might have missed her way, wandered through the woods and perished. But that could not possibly be the case. The Lord not only impressed on her to start, but caused the Indians to give her the opportunity to make her escape, and directed her way so she could meet with the old man that night, caused him to recieve her kindly, and conducted her safely to Fort Pitt. Perhaps some may say what an accident it was that she ever got home. If any of you think so, you are very much mistaken; there was no accident in it. Some may ask this question and say, Why did the Lord have more compassion on her than on her sister? Should any of you ask that question, I will ask you, Why did the Lord choose the Children of Israel from among all the nations of the earth, and give them his laws, commandments and statutes, leaving all the other nations in heathenish idolatry? I could not answer your question. I think correctly, but if I did, you might say, I was too much of a predestinarian for you. Yes, and so are the apostles and prophets. As to my political principles, I am a true Whig. The sin of loco-focoism, I have never been guilty of. In my religious principles, I am a Regular Baptist, having believed in that doctrine more than 50 years. At this time, myself and wife both belong to the Lewis creek church of Regular Baptists. Notwithstanding that I believe that the Evangelical doctrine is neither preached nor believed by any denomination on earth, except the Regular Baptists, yet I would not have you understand, that I think none will be saved but the Regular Baptists. No, I believe the Lord has people among other denominations that he will save, but not according to their Arminian principles, which are Antichristian, and always stand opposed to free grace. But all that have been quickened by the Spirit and brought from death unto life, will be saved of every sect, or if belonging to none. (Additions) Josiah departed this life on Monday 22 May 1848 aged 46, one month and 12 days. His wife Mary departed this life on Monday 22 Aug (2 or 3 ?) months after him. 1849: My wife and myself have lived together a- going on 60 yrs since the 15th of last Apr. I am 87 since 11 Dec last. Faith note: End of Spencer Records. ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

Following is input from Jack Weiss concerning our discussion as to when the Locust Creek area of Mason Co. KY was first settled (this area became part of Bracken Co. KY in 1797.) He provides other history info as well. Jack is a Bracken County Historical Society research volunteer and is often at the Brooksville Courthouse on Fridays 10:00-4:00. You should check if you're coming a long distance. The County Clerks office is open for research Monday thru Friday 9 to 4, closed Wednesday afternoon, and also open Saturday, 9 to noon. Very pertinent is Jack's info that "there were settlers there (in the Wellsburg area of Locust Creek) as early as 1792 or before." This was prior to a new bridle-path road being cut from a point opposite Cincinnati to Washington, KY as described in the Spencer Records info. For info, the Wellsburg-Rock Springs area is on the Ohio River, just east of the Locust Creek egress, about 5-6 miles west of Augusta. The old Locust Ridge Road used to "drop down" to Wellsburg; however, this road was virtually abandoned several years ago, Locust Ridge Road now "drops down" to the Ohio River at Rock Springs, at least according to my old map. Neil McDonald (see below for comments by Jack Weiss.) Neil: Bracken County was surveyed in 1796 and became a county on June 1 1797. Records in our collection start at that time. We know that there were early parties of surveyors in the area as early as 1772, William Bracken was one of these early surveyors, or Pilots, he liked the area and settled in the area that is now Augusta. He was killed by indians sometime between 1776 and 1792,the whole area along the river had a few settlers, Locust Creek is just west of Wellsburg, and there were settlers there as early as 1792 or before, Mason County records would show that, or Virginia records for Kentucky County, which is what this area was for at time, it was also Woodford County Virginia for a short spell before becoming Kentucky County, at least that is what I was informed by a lady from Virginia, have never been able to check it out. Augusta became a formal settlement in 1803, when Phillip Buckner donated the land for 120 lots, and 2 acres for a city square. Locust creek is mentioned in the early survey done by Simon Kenton and his cohorts. This land was all part of Revolutionary War Land Grants. Bracken county was known to have good roads leading to Falmouth, Cynthiana,Paris and Lexington, as they passed a law, that all the landowners had to build and maintain the road frontage in their grants. That is why Augusta became a large river port, it had roads leading south to Lexington, and the Bluegrass area. The Washington Trace was part of an old Buffalo trail, that led from up in Ohio, someplace around Chillicothe to central Kentucky. There is a man working on all this, he lives in Dayton Ohio, and for some reason I cannot think of his name, he has all the creek and trace info you would want. Will have to search my files and see what I can find. Sorry I can not be of more help at this time, will have to do some research, Jack 30 Thank you, Jack Weiss, for your helpful info. Hopefully someone has, or will find, actual Mason Co. land records which show areas of Locust Creek (or other Bracken Co. areas near the Ohio River) as being transacted prior to 1792. Neil McDonald -----Original Message----- From: macbd1 <macbd1@arthur.k12.il.us> To: KYMASON-L@rootsweb.com <KYMASON-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, June 17, 1999 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [KYMASON-L] Re: Capt Spencer Records #14 >Hermon Fagley said the following, in part, concerning his posting of >Capt. Spencer's Records #14 -- about a new road being bridle-cut from >a point opposite Cincinnati to Washington, KY in 1792: > > >>This is a repeat of a note posted last night, with additional >thoughts.... >>This 1st paragraph (re: the 1792 bridle-path) refers to what became >>known as the Washington Trace, portions of which are so-called on >modern >>maps. Likely the AA Highway follows it in places. The young man from >>STONER was captured on US RT 68 in n KY. And he was carried thru >Bracken >>Co. The Records were then at MaCHIR'S station ,say 4 miles south of >>Washington,not at his most western of cabins 6 mies west of >Washington. >>Those 2 referances mean,if HOWARD LECKEY was correct with 1789-90 as >the >>time 100 families moved down to [?bracken co?] from 10 mile creek in >>GREENE Co,VERY SW PA, that they settled "not" diectly in BRACKEN CO. >I've >>always thought those 100 families left sw Pa for the Miami's of >Ohio,and >>the defeats of HARMAR'S AND ST CLAIR'S armies halted them in Bracken. > > >I am a new subscriber and am grateful to have seen these Spencer >Records postings. I, too, am interested in learning more about the >early settlement of the Bracken Co. area of then Mason Co. KY. (I >believe Bracken was formed about 1797 from Mason and Campbell.) > >My Valentine McDaniel-McDonald moved his immediate family members, via >flatboat, from the Fayette Co. PA area to Mason Co. KY in mid-late >1790. The Brown Co. Genealogical Society had (in 1984) a microfilm of >Mason Co. KY tax lists (or militia nose-counts) for 1790-1800 -- these >showed Valentine and Joseph McD were present 1791-1795, first with >little chattel, then having land on Locust Creek in 1795. While >previously assuming they lived in the Locust Creek area during all of >these years, I am now wondering whether they settled there in 1795 >from the Maysville-Washington area (based on the Spencer Records >info.) Or, do you suppose this "new" road from a point opposite >Cincinnati to Washington, KY was to be a new "main" road to replace >"crazy-quilt" paths developed previously? > >Locust Creek enters the Ohio River 6-7 miles downstream of Augusta, >KY. Present St. Rt. 1159, in its east-west course just east of >Johnsville, follows a part of Locust Creek (for those who enjoy >map-study.) Locust Creek's headwater is at Locust Ridge, it runs >westerly for 3+/- miles (along "present" Rt. 1159), then turns north >to enter the Ohio River. I say "present" Rt. 1159 since an old >highway map shows Rt. 1159 originally continued northward to intersect >Rt. 8 at the Ohio River, while old Rt. 1951 made the westerly course >to Johnsville. *I suspect* the road from Johnsville to Brooksville >(and on to Germantown) generally follows the original 1792 bridle-path >development described in the Spencer Recordings. > >I just went to the Tiger Maps page and find Locust Creek (and its >"runs") is much longer than shown on my old highway map. Branches >from the southwest are called McCarthy Creek and Poe Creek to name a >couple. The apparent main branch of Locust Creek has its headwaters >much further south and east, in the vicinity of Brooksville. So, >"having land on Locust Creek" only identified a family's general >location. > >For those who may be interested, go to: http://tiger.census.gov/ and >select one of the TMS versions for map-viewing -- or, go to >http://www.uky.edu/KentuckyAtlas/21023.html and enter Locust Creek (or >whatever you want), then select Tiger Maps from the next page. I note >that state highway numbers vary between my old maps, a 1998 Road Atlas >and Tiger -- if we change road identifications (and their routes) so >much today, it's no wonder we have trouble understanding where roads >were located in the 1790's. > >Can anyone find a reference as to when the Locust Creek area was first >settled in a permanent manner? > >Thanks, Hermon, for taking the time to post your interesting info. > >Neil McDonald >PS- My McDonald's apparently left the Locust Creek area after 1795 >since they are not listed thereafter. They moved across the river >into the southern part of present Brown Co. OH about 1796-1798 -- >although I understand it was not uncommon for folks in those days to >move back and forth until the Ohio counties were more developed. (Addendum: Valentine McDaniel-McDonald had land in the Adams Co. area of later Brown Co. OH.) > > > > >==== KYMASON Mailing List ==== >List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received >when you subscribed. Feel free to contact Yvonne James-Henderson, >list administrator with questions concerning this list! >mailto:hen1@idt.net >

What Jack calls LOCUST RIDGE RD,was likely the Ky end of what Ohio calls the BULLSKIN TRACE. Since we are guessing, I'll say the LOCUST RIDGE Rd went via GERMANTOWN, to John MAY'S LICK,and south with RT 68 to the LOWER BLUE LICK. I was about to add Battlefield to distinguish the UPPER and Lower Blue Licks, but I learned on KYNICHOL-L that the Upper Blue Licks also had a battle. [Daniel Brown killed?] I guess Battlefield and park would be proper for the Lower Blue Licks battle of ? Aug,1782. Since this is going to Adams Co,let me add my theory that the fish hatchery spring at Latham? in w PIKE CO,was a location on ZANE'S TRACE of 1796,and that that spring drew SPENCER RECORDS-HUGHEY, and one of the MOORE'S to settle ther a few years,1802-5 era. ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

> From: Betty Lou Riley <chipmunk@zoomnet.net> : Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:30:06 -0400 > > I Like them also! And since I'm the list owner, have no fear that Herm is > going to be made to stop, with the history lessons for our area. I am glad to hear that--I had ancestors on the Virginia (now West Va.) frontier at that time--at least one was an Indian Scout during the Revolutionary War--so I am really enjoying these too. Mary Kay Hummel

I Like them also! And since I'm the list owner, have no fear that Herm is going to be made to stop, with the history lessons for our area. I print them out for my Dad to read! At 11:04 AM 6/17/99 -0400, you wrote: >Herm, > >I don't know where you are getting these historical texts or why you are posting >them, but I really find them fascinating. Please keep sending them to the list! Its >great to know all the day to day hardships (for both whites and indians) of what was >happening around here in the "pre-pioneer" days. > >I think I missed something when you starting posting. Im curious what is your >relationship to all these stories. Are these journals from your ancestors? Or you >more of a general pioneer and local history buff? > >Just curious, > >Greg > >hermfagley@juno.com wrote: > >> We can never be sure,but I think the Indians in the following were >> hunting on BLUE Lick Run,or Stone Lick Run,of Bullskin near FELICITY,Oh, >> and were chased thru BETHEL,to the FALLEN TIMBER,which played a part in >> WM LYTLE'S location of Williamsburg,Oh. Spencer and Laben Records,and >> bro-in-law HUGHEY. Faith K posted several of Capt Spencer Records >> memories to LONGHUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com,and I repost them to locations >> mentioned. This is the 1st memory OHCLERMO-L@rootsweb.com list members >> will see,of abt 10. From: "Faith Keahey" <keahey@cyberhighway.net> >> To: LONGHUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com >> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:17:09 -0600 >> Subject: Capt Spencer Records #14 > >snip... > > >==== OHADAMS Mailing List ==== >Help Instructions at: http://www.zoomnet.net/~chipmunk/SurnamesMail.html >or contact Betty at: chipmunk@zoomnet.net >Archives: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?surname=OHAdams >Your gracious donations to RootsWeb makes this all possible!! >Rootsweb: http://www.rootsweb.com/ > > > Betty Lou Riley In Southern OH, USA List Owner for: OHAdams-L, KYLewis-L, and McGovney-L Instructions at: <http://www.zoomnet.net/~chipmunk/SurnamesMail.html> CCA:KY Lewis Co. Boards Admin.for Adams Co.,OH

From: "Faith Keahey" <keahey@cyberhighway.net> To: LONGHUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:00:56 -0600 Subject: Capt Spencer Records #15 [Message-ID: <002701beb8da$a32bf1a0$8c32a1d1@keahey> Return-path: <LONGHUNTERS-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from mx5.boston.juno.com (mx5.boston.juno.com [207.205.100.54]) by x11.boston.juno.com with SMTP id AAA5YUHUSAS4QBLS for <hermfagley@juno.com> (sender <LONGHUNTERS-L-request@rootsweb.com>); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:12:00 -0400 (EST) Received: from bl-11.rootsweb.com (bl-11.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.27]) by mx5.boston.juno.com with SMTP id AAA5YUHURA7PWHQJ (sender <LONGHUNTERS-L-request@rootsweb.com>); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:11:59 -0400 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-11.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA22603; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:09:36 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: LONGHUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:09:36 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Sender: LONGHUNTERS-L-request@rootsweb.com Resent-Message-ID: <oCV3.A.ChF._2Ra3@bl-11.rootsweb.com> X-Status: Replied X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [NOTE-CAPT RECORDS MEMORIES ARE ARCHIVIED AT ROOTSWEB.COM ARCHIVES FOR LONGHUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com . As are some others like WETZEL AND fAITH'S EDGLINGTON The 1st of June 1792, KY becoming a state, all commissions from the Government of VA became null. Sometime in November, I was elected Captain again, and recieved my commission from the Governor of KY, and on the 9th of Jan 1793, I was sworn into office by John Wilson, a Justice of the Peace. Sometime in the summer of this year, my brother Laban and myself were appointed to view a road from Germantown to Licking River, opposite the mouth of Beaver Creek, to intercect a road from that place to Georgetown. Also to measure it, amd mark the mile trees. We found it 19 1/2, at that time all the way through the woods. We found a good way for a road, which was some time after cut out, and it has been for a long time a public road. About this time, as near as I can recollect, William McGinnis, who lived half a mile from Washington, was shot down by the Indians, as he was standing in his yard between sunset and dark, but they did not venture to scalp him . Sometime in the fall of this year, Tobias Woods, Henry Woods, Absolom Craig, and Fielding Fagan set out to hunt on Locust creek. On their return home, they came to a fine spring that broke out at the foot of a bluff about 10' high. They encamped there, and set out to take an evening hunt. When they came in at night, one of them said laban Records was in the woods, for he had heard him laugh. But as none of them knew of his being out, Tobias was somewhat alarmed, thinking there might be Indians about. About two hours before day, he said, as he had no horse with him, he would set off and hunt home. At day-light, Fagan went to his horse, and began to unhobble him, and Henry went to the spring. The Indians, who appeared had fell on their trail, and followed them to their camp, laying in ambush behind a log on the bluff, where they had slipped up to after night, at this conjuncture fired on them, killing Henry at the spring and wounding Craig in the hip. Fagan made his escape and ran home. I raised 5 or 6 men and went with Fagan to the place. Woods lay at the spring, shot and scalped. Craig likewise lay at the camp, tomahawked and scalped. As Fagan said that he saw him running, about 50 yds from the camp, but, being shot in the hip, not being able to escape, we knew that he was overtaken, brought back to camp, and there slain. We saw where the Indians had lain behind the log, and left a deer skin - we cut a blue-ash sapling and split it. Of this we made shovels, digging a grave sufficient to keep the wolves from them. In this we laid the bodies, spread a blanket over them, and covered them up. These were the last persons slain by Indians in our part of the country. I have mentioned a number of times that the Indians stole horse, and perhaps there were a number that I have no recollection of at this time, as it was so long ago. In the year 1795 peace was made with the Indians, when I resigned my commission. In August, I set off for PA in a canoe, in company with my brother Laban, William Blackmore, and David Fink. At the mouth of the Great Kenhawa, we left our canoe and travelled by land. From the mouth of the Great Kenhawa to Belville, the Ohio River is very crooked, making it 60 miles by water. We steered through the woods, being directed by Col Lewis, and arrived at Belville at night, and on the next, at the mouth of the Little Kenhawa. Next morning we took the road to Clarksburg on the west fork of Monongahela, upon the east bank of the river. This is the seat of justice for Harrison Co, VA. 40 miles lower down stands Morgantown, the county seat on Monongahela Co. On the east side, 8 miles below Morgantown, Cheat River unites with the Monogahela by a mouth, 200 yds broad. This river has its source in the Greenbrier mountains, and runs north through a part of Randolph and Pocahontas Counties. Having decended the river to Brownsville, we returned home down the Ohio in a boat. The following August, I set off for PA again, in company with Robert Ellrod. We kept up the Ohio by land, and found some difficulty in travelling, having very often to ride up creeks some distance, in order to get above back water. At the mouth of Big Sandy, I was near getting drowned, by attempting to ford at its mouth. The depth of the water was about 3', but the depth of the quicksand we could not tell, as we found no bottom. We got about half way over it, but there was no chance of crossing it, as it still got worse. With much difficulty, we got out at the side we went in at, and proceeded up the river about two miles, where we found a good ford with a rocky bottom, and crossed over in safety. We arrived in PA about the last of the month. Some time in October. Zanes who had been employed by the United States to view and cut out a bridle path from Wheeling to Chillicothe, being at work thereon, we, in company with two other men, took that road, and came up with them about 10 miles from Chillicothe. We then steered through the woods to that place, and reached home, after an absence of 60 days. We were the first persons that ever travelled that road. In 1800, June 23rd. I sold my plantation in KY, and in August myself and wife set off for PA. We followed Zane's road and arrived there about the 1st of Sep. Shortly after our arrival, we both took fever and ague, and both had hard shakes every day. Not being able to ride home, we took passage in a boat laden with apples and cider, bound to Limestone. The river was so low that we were 60 days on it, and each of us had a hard shake every day. When we landed we were hardly able to ride home, and had ague almost the whole winter. I had more than 100 hard shakes, without missing a day, and ,many afterwards. In March 1801, I moved to the State of Ohio, and settled in Ross Co, on Sunfish creek, where I previously bought land. I there built a grist and saw mills. 1803. I was appointed with two other men to view a road from Newmarket to the Scioto salt works. 40 miles of it, was at the time through the woods. The other men, not being woodsmen, fell on me to lead. We found a good way for the road, which was some time after cut out and became a public road. 1804. I was solicited to be candidate for Captain, to which I objected; however, as I did not attend the election, I was run in, and recieved my commission from the Governor of OH, which I returned to Gen Mossie, letting him know, that it did not suit me to serve. 1805. I bought land on the wet fork of Brush creek, in Adams Co, now Brown, and in April moved and settled on it, and there built a grist mill. In the year 1821, I sold my plantation in Ohio, and moved to the State of Indiana, where I settled in Bartholomew Co, 6 miles north of Columbus. Here we suffered a great deal from sickness, and lost four of our children. 1833 was the last year, I was able tofarm my plantation. I then rented it for three years. The rent was sufficient to support us, but we were neither of us able to do the work which was required to be done; and as our children were all married, and left us, they advised us to break up house-keeping and live with some of them. This I was reluctant to do, but there seemed to be no alternative, about the last of Nov 1836, we went to live with our son-in-law Tunis Quick, and our daughter Susannah, with whom [1842] we still reside. We have had 13 living children, and one still born. We have had 87 grandchildren, but 21 have departed this life. We have had 7 great grand-children, 2 of whom have departed this life. Faith note: This is not the end of Capt Records - there arre still several pages of interesting appendix, and then follows the short recollections of Stephen Burkam, and then a few more appendix. ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

keahey@cyberhighway.net Faith Keahey has been posting to LONGHUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com and Rootsweb.com's archives data on her Edglington's-narratives- and of Wetzel,and of Spencer Records. Most of you either live near Weirton,or had ancestors who served in the 1781 militia from there. 2-3 more of you are Edglington' descs. Sorry my Great Dane demands being walked Hermon Brown Fagley , 2679 St.Rt.125 ,Bethel,Oh 45106 HFAGLEY@aol.com ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

I'm downloading FAITH K's posts to LONGHUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com, and reposting them to the counties mentioned. I gather FAITH has Edglington,another of the authors. When 1 types,and poorly,with 1 finger as I do,any shortcut is welcome. Wetzel is another. The complete series is archived someplace on-line. I suppose in rootweb.com's LONGHUNTERS-L archive. On Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:04:34 -0400 Greg E <gje@metaphasetech.com> writes: >Herm, > >I don't know where you are getting these historical texts or why you >are posting >them, but I really find them fascinating. Please keep sending them to >the list! Its >great to know all the day to day hardships (for both whites and >indians) of what was >happening around here in the "pre-pioneer" days. > >I think I missed something when you starting posting. Im curious what >is your >relationship to all these stories. Are these journals from your >ancestors? Or you >more of a general pioneer and local history buff? > >Just curious, > >Greg > >hermfagley@juno.com wrote: > >> We can never be sure,but I think the Indians in the following were >> hunting on BLUE Lick Run,or Stone Lick Run,of Bullskin near >FELICITY,Oh, >> and were chased thru BETHEL,to the FALLEN TIMBER,which played a part >in >> WM LYTLE'S location of Williamsburg,Oh. Spencer and Laben >Records,and >> bro-in-law HUGHEY. Faith K posted several of Capt Spencer >Records >> memories to LONGHUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com,and I repost them to >locations >> mentioned. This is the 1st memory OHCLERMO-L@rootsweb.com list >members >> will see,of abt 10. From: "Faith Keahey" <keahey@cyberhighway.net> >> To: LONGHUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com >> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:17:09 -0600 >> Subject: Capt Spencer Records #14 > >snip... > > >==== OHADAMS Mailing List ==== >Help Instructions at: >http://www.zoomnet.net/~chipmunk/SurnamesMail.html >or contact Betty at: chipmunk@zoomnet.net >Archives: >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?surname=OHAdams >Your gracious donations to RootsWeb makes this all possible!! >Rootsweb: http://www.rootsweb.com/ > ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

Herm, I don't know where you are getting these historical texts or why you are posting them, but I really find them fascinating. Please keep sending them to the list! Its great to know all the day to day hardships (for both whites and indians) of what was happening around here in the "pre-pioneer" days. I think I missed something when you starting posting. Im curious what is your relationship to all these stories. Are these journals from your ancestors? Or you more of a general pioneer and local history buff? Just curious, Greg hermfagley@juno.com wrote: > We can never be sure,but I think the Indians in the following were > hunting on BLUE Lick Run,or Stone Lick Run,of Bullskin near FELICITY,Oh, > and were chased thru BETHEL,to the FALLEN TIMBER,which played a part in > WM LYTLE'S location of Williamsburg,Oh. Spencer and Laben Records,and > bro-in-law HUGHEY. Faith K posted several of Capt Spencer Records > memories to LONGHUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com,and I repost them to locations > mentioned. This is the 1st memory OHCLERMO-L@rootsweb.com list members > will see,of abt 10. From: "Faith Keahey" <keahey@cyberhighway.net> > To: LONGHUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:17:09 -0600 > Subject: Capt Spencer Records #14 snip...

We can never be sure,but I think the Indians in the following were hunting on BLUE Lick Run,or Stone Lick Run,of Bullskin near FELICITY,Oh, and were chased thru BETHEL,to the FALLEN TIMBER,which played a part in WM LYTLE'S location of Williamsburg,Oh. Spencer and Laben Records,and bro-in-law HUGHEY. Faith K posted several of Capt Spencer Records memories to LONGHUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com,and I repost them to locations mentioned. This is the 1st memory OHCLERMO-L@rootsweb.com list members will see,of abt 10. From: "Faith Keahey" <keahey@cyberhighway.net> To: LONGHUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:17:09 -0600 Subject: Capt Spencer Records #14 Message-ID: <003601beb835$36ef9140$c432a1d1@keahey> Return-path: <LONGHUNTERS-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from mx2.boston.juno.com (mx2.boston.juno.com [207.205.100.55]) by x11.boston.juno.com with SMTP id AAA5YSCPEABYE6E2 for <hermfagley@juno.com> (sender <LONGHUNTERS-L-request@rootsweb.com>); Wed, 16 Jun 1999 16:31:32 -0400 (EST) Received: from bl-11.rootsweb.com (bl-11.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.27]) by mx2.boston.juno.com with SMTP id AAA5YSCPDART9A62 (sender <LONGHUNTERS-L-request@rootsweb.com>); Wed, 16 Jun 1999 16:31:31 -0400 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-11.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA11319; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:25:17 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: LONGHUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:25:17 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Sender: LONGHUNTERS-L-request@rootsweb.com Resent-Message-ID: <83EF9D.A.rwC.sgAa3@bl-11.rootsweb.com> X-Status: Read X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Sometime in the year 1792, application was made by my brother Laban and >myself, to view a road opposite Cincinnati to Washington, and cut it out a >bridle- path, for a sum of money which the men in Washington had made up, >which we agreed to do. 40 miles of it was then an unbroken forest, and as >it was dangerous times, we took with us two men armed. We viewed the road >down, and cut it back. While two worked, the other two carried the four >guns and provisions, keeping at the same time a look out. Having >accomplished the job to their satisfaction, we recieved our pay. It was >sometimes afterwards cut out, and has been for a long time a very public >road. > >During the summer, the Indians were hunting opposite the mouth of Locust >Creek, having their camp four miles from the Ohio River. After killing a >number of deer, they needed horses to pack off the skins; and no doubt >thinking that they should come into our settlements and steal horses, the >horses would be missed, and they pursued and overtaken before they could >cross the Ohio, as it was only 20 miles to the mouth of the Locust. Now >about 4 miles south of us, the hills set in, forming a very rough and >unsettled part of the country, which continued to the mouth of the Locust, >and so up to the road leading down from Washington to the Blue Licks. Now >should the Indians waylay this road and get horses, before the news could be >taken to Washington and men collected to go to the place, there would be >sufficient time to cross and make their escape, more especially as the men >would have no way to cross the river. This was no doubt their scheme. > >A certain young man who lived on Stoner was driving a wagon to Limestone, >while the Indians were waylaying the road in the knobs of Johnston's creek >about 14 miles from Washington. When he came opposite to them, they sprung >into the road before him, took his horses by the bridle and made him >prisoner. They then took him and his horses and set off for the Ohio River, >which they crossed after travelling 25 miles over a rough hilly part of the >country. > >As the prisoner had a bottle of whiskey, the Indians drank pretty freely, >and got somewhat intoxicated. The roughness of the way, and the darkness of >the night, caused them to get bewildered, which retarded their progress, and >was ultimately of advantage to their prisoner. > >Shortly after he was taken, a traveller came on, going to Washington, and >found the wagon in the road and the gears laying. He rode hastily to >Washington, and took the news to Col Rankin who lived in Washington. He >sent off an express to me ordering me to raise men and pursue them if I >possibly could. (Why did he not give orders to Capt John Kenton, who lived >only 2 miles west of Washington, or to Capt Lee, who lived about the same >distance east? Perhaps he thought they would be slow in raising men, but >knew I would promptly attend to it, and men could be sooner raised on the >frontier, than they could in town.) > >But the express did not arrive until after night. As soon as it was light, >I ran to my brother Laban's and my brother in law John Hughey, and sent them >after men with orders to meet at my father's as soon as possible, while I >ran to others. We soon met ten of us and took the road to Lee's creek >Station on the Ohio, about 8 miles off, where I knew an empty flat-bottomed >boat lay. We ran hastily down, boarded the boat, shoved off, double manned >the oars, and one took the steering oar. We then pulled out into the middle >of the river, and pushed on with all our force. We made good headway and >kept in the middle of the river as long as we could do, for fear of passing >the place where they had crossed the river. > >We then fell over to the NW side, then called the Indian side, and kept near >the shore to see the place where the horses came out of the river. We soon >came to the place, landed, tied our boat, took the trail and pursued them >rapidly about 4 miles, and came to their camp, but they were gone. They had >divided about equally into three companies, which made us at a loss which >trail to take. We wanted to follow those that had the prisoner, as we were >more anxious to release him than to kill them. However, we chose the middle >trail, and following it, pursued them hastily about two miles, where they >divided again into two equal companies. We were again at a loss which trail >to take, but chose the right hand. > >The trail by this time was small, but we pursued it as long as we could see >and encamped for the night. At daylight we continued the pursuit, and soon >heard the halloeing, according to their custom upon leaving the camp. We >felt certain of overtaking them, and soon came to their camp, from which >they had steered a north course. We followed them about two miles in that >direction, when coming to a large tract of fallen timber, that crossed their >course, they turned short to the right, in order to go round it, or find a >passage through it. > >The woods for some distance had been bushy, which prevented us from seeing >them sooner, but near the fallen timbers the woods were open. When we came >to the turn that they had made, we discovered them about 60 yds distant. >There were four of them with one horse laden with skins, on which an Indian >was riding. Two walked next to him, the prisoner behind, and one brought up >the rear. They had taken the prisoner's shirt from him, and gave him a >calico shirt in its place. He was bare-headed, having his own big coat >wrapped up small, hoppised (?) on his back, with his bottle in it, although >the Indians had drank his whiskey, he was careful with his bottle. > >The instant we saw them, they were alarmed, and started on the run. The one >behind the prisoner, jumped before him, all running towards the fallen >timber, with the prisoner after them. John Hughey fired at the Indian on >the horse, who either jumped off or fell off, and made his escape by running >into the fallen timber, which was near him, and grew thick with weeds and >pea-vine. He left a first-rate new rifle gun laying, by which we knew that >he was badly wounded as an Indian would never leave his gun, so long as he >could still carry it off. We supposed that the prisoner was an Indian, on >account of his running off from us, and because he wore a calico shirt. My >brother Laban shot at him, but his gun making slow fire, he missed him, but >hit his big coat, which had turned under his arm, making 16 holes in it, and >breaking his bottle in many pieces. > >At that instant and uncommon incident occurred. Some one cried out, "Shoot >him!---some, "Don't shoot! Let us take him prisoner!." On hearing this he >knew that we were white men, and turned, running to meet us, halloeing, "Oh >my wagon, my wagon." which he supposed to be the best countersign he could >give, as he knew his life was in danger. So he was released from >captivity. We asked him why he had ran from us; he replied, that he had not >thought it possible that white men could be there in such a short space of >time, but that he took us for another party of Indians, who were at war with >those who had taken him, and he went on his way rejoicing. The pack of >skins and the gun went to us for our trouble. > >If, when that young man had been taken prisoner, the news had not soon been >taken to Washington, and then to me; if I had not hastily raised men; if >there had not been a boat at Lee's creek station; if we had not pursued them >rapidly; if we had not taken the right trail each time they seperated; then >the man would not have been released from captivity. And then, if my >brother's gun had not made skow fire, if there had not been a division about >killing him or taking him; if we had all fired on him; then he surely would >have been killed. Some may think it all an accident, and indeed it does >look like an accident. But, my friends, when we rightly consider, that with >the Lord there is nothing accidental, for althought the savages were >permitted to take him, yet they were not permitted to keep, so it was not >possible, that there were any ifs in the case. >cont. > >1802 census of Washington Twnsp,Clermont-laban RECORDS,once from s DEL ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

Researching these surnames. They were in Bowling Green c 1870 to present. Would like to exchange info with anyone also involved in same search. Louise Sklar-California

Many names I know in this one. My colony lived with the GREATHOUSE'S at Weirton,WV. "The Frontiersman" gives an account of Greathouse's death. One of the ELROD'S settled within 2-3 miles of me here at Bethel,Oh. I've always thought that the Indians knew some of the people killed. One or more of the GREATHOUSE'S had been at the 1774 massacre of the Mingo Logan's family. A prevoius account of Capt Spencer Records mentions being led up-river to Portsmouth by a cautious leader. That would seem to be REV WAR Gen Charles Scott. The Elrod'S and the MUSE families were ntermarried.Capt MUSE served at FT NECESSITY in 1754. CHARLES RECORDS may be the father of Capt SPENCER and LABAN RECORDS. On Tue, 15 Jun 1999 18:08:18 -0600 "Faith Keahey" <keahey@cyberhighway.net> writes: >On the 15th of Apr 1790, I was married to Elizabeth Ellred, daughter >of John >Peter Ellred and Mary his wife. I settled on my own land 6 miles west >of >Washington, where I had previously built a log cabin 16 ft sq, and >cleared >some ground. At that time it was the outside cabin west. > >I will now give you a discription of my log cabin, and the way it was >built. >After raising it the necessary Height, a large log was laid across >the >middle, and overlaid with split logs. Two of the pieces at one corner >were >cut out, to make a hole to go up above, then build up, so as to gave >room to >load and shoot, with port holes above and below. The door was made >of >strong puncheons, pinned with a two-inch pin, and barred with a strong >bar, >so that it could not possibly be forced open. > >Abrham Gardner and Rudolph Fuso took leases of me and lived in the >same >cabin with us, as they had no time to build cabins for themselves. >They >were both Dutch men and not used to guns, so that I could not have >depended >on them, only that they would make a show if Indians came in sight; >and if >we should be fired on, they might be shot instead of me. > >This summer my brother Laban and my brother in law John Hughey were >employed >to spy on the Ohio River. On the second day of August, on a big lick >on >Locust creek, 4 miles from the Ohio, they saw the beds of 22 Indians, >who >had been watching the lick. They sent word as soon as possible to >Col >Rankin, who gave orders to me to draught ten men from my company, and >to >meet in the morning at my father's where I would be met by 15 men from >Capt >John Kenton's company, and from there to go in search of them. > >I raised my men, and met according to orders, but found only 6 of >Kenton's >men. However, we set off, 19 in number, and when we came to the lick, >we >saw that a number of horses had just gone down the creek. They had >been up >on Stoner, the south fork of Licking, and had stolen 20 horses. > >We pursued them rapidly to the Ohio; they had all got over but 4; at >that >place it was >20 yds from the bank to the water, and growing thick with grass. >About 50 >yds above, the water came to the bank, with a thicket of willows >growing. >An Indian was standing sentinel close to the bank; we saw him the >instant he >did us. Some jumped down the bank after them; some ran up the bank to >keep >them down; on made his escape by swimming and diving; two ran into >the >willows, and we could not find them. My brother Laban killed one that >had >squatted in the grass. The one in the river had many guns fired at >him, but >to no purpose, as he was most of the time under the water. The other >Indians halloed and shot at us, but to no purpose, as the river was >too >wide. Only one ball reached the shore, by skipping some distance on >the >water. We took the scalp off the one that was killed, got his gun, >and four >horses which they had not got over the river and returned home. > >About the 1st of March 1791, the Indians stole horses near Washington >just >before daylight. The horses were soon missed, and they were pursued. >Snow >beginning to fall, and cover the ground, they were obliged to leave >the >horses, disperse, and run to make their escape. > >John Gardner set out that evening from my house to hunt, and saw the >track >of one of them, who had come near my fence before he saw it, and then >turned >short to the left, to go round the field. It was a fine thing for him >that >I did not know of his coming there. Had I known it, I would have >went out, >met the gentleman, and given him a salute. > >Sometime in March Capt Hubbell was descending the Ohio. Below the >mouth of >Scioto, he was attacked by a large party of Indians, who came out in >their >canoes, and fired on the boat, wounding four of five of his men and >killing >two, by the names of Kilpatrick and Tucker. They soon gave up >pursuing >Hubbell, and turned their attention to Greathouse's boat which was >then in >sight, and as soon as the boat came in reach, attacked it. This boat >being >weakly manned, suurendered without much assistance. They took this >boat to >shore, killing Greathouse and a man called Black. How many they took >prisoners, I have no recollection at this time. > >I went up to help bury the dead, and on our way wemet a boy about 15 >yrs of >age, who had been taken prisoner, but he had made his escape. He >turned >back and went with us. When we came back to the boat, Black was >laying in >it, tomahawked and scalped. The boy said, "There lies my poor old >father." >Greathouse lay on the bank, tomahawked and scalped. There was a large >sack >of flour, some hogs, and some other property in the boat, which they >had not >taken off. After burying the dead, we took the boat down to >Limestone. >cont > > ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.