I agree with Judith. In my experience, the widowed mother often went to live with a married daughter. Have you already traced all of her children? Did you see if she was listed as living with one of them in the 1900 census? If not, why don't you give their names and perhaps someone can do a lookup for you in that census? If you are trying to find their origins in Ireland, have you also tried to determine if your Patrick is related to any of the other Walsh families living in Cleveland at that time? That's how I found out where my family originated in Ireland -- it took me years, but I finally found a biography of a nephew of my gr gr grandfather that listed his father's birthplace and gave a wonderful family history going back several generations in Ireland -- it even gave my ggggrandmother's maiden name! Now the REAL work begins ... tracing the family in Ireland. But at least I have a starting place. Janet in N.J. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith" <jrosenbe@neo.rr.com> To: <OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 7:55 AM Subject: RE: Mary Walsh -- died 1905 -- need help finding death notice > Hi there-- > > I have another suggestion. By 1905, death certs were commonly required. If > there was no cert at the CC Archives, perhaps she did not die in Cuy Co but > in another county. If that were the case, her death would be recorded > there. Were there any family in a nearby county that she might have been > visiting? Lots of Cleveland Irish wound up in Lorain, for example. In that > time period, the mother's maiden name and the name of her parents was often > provided, so it is worth pursuing-- even a trip to the Archives yourself to > double check. > > The necrology files are pretty reliable as well and they contain the death > notices/obits from the newspaper, so you may be hoping for something that > just was not published. And back then, only the barest facts were given-- > name & death date of deceased, where the viewing & burial was. Immediate > surviving family might be mentioned, deceased relatives were not-- no > background on employment or any of the niceties you see today. > > Judith in Ohio >