Does anyone have any insights, stats, or impressions about which entry ports immigrants from Mayo would have used when they intended to end up in the Pa. coal fields? Esp. the Pittston-Scranton-Wilkes-Barre area. In 1949. Would Philadelphia/Baltimore have been more likely than NYC and/or Boston? What has been your experience? Jack Braverman Cleveland. OH

Flynn-Mylott-Dejohn Funeral Home 4600 Mayfield Rd 216-291-3530

Anyone out there know where early 1900's Flynn-Froelk Co. funeral home records could be located? Lynne

Hi Mary Ellen, I was curious if you know of any good sources of information (online, etc) for Wexford. The early indications I have is that my father's side of the family, the Fortunes are from Wexford. I'm just trying to put together a list of resources I might contact, and you have already been a wealth of information on my mother's (Gibbons) side of the family in Mayo. Thanks again as always, Cliff Fortune Kansas City, MO -----Original Message----- From: Maryln61@aol.com [mailto:Maryln61@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 3:34 PM To: OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-D Digest V03 #52 Annie~ My husband Jack's maternal side is from Wexford. In fact, they still live there. Rathangan is a Catholic Parish, the church is directly across the road from O'Brian's Temple Bar which is owned by Jack's cousin Philip O'Brian. Most of the CLEARY family were baptized, married, and buried from there. This CLEARY family, American branch are Lakewood. CLEARY Real Estate, Rex Plumbing, former judge Pat CLEARY, CLEARY Construction, etc., are my husband's family. In Wexford among the townlands associated with that church are Blackstone (family home from 1798 is there), Kilmore Quay, Duncormick. The parish of Kilmore is down the road but not sure if some of Kilmore Quay records are there and at Rathangan. The records for the village of Kilmore Quay are not at the RC church there but at the church at Kilmore the next village over. The townland of Neimstown is in Kilmore parish where Jack's other set of grandparents the CLARKE's emigrated. I'll check the records to see what I have on HOGANS. The records from 1822 to 1854 are not at the Heritage Center nor do we have them. They were considered too fragile but they are at the Rathangan Church. We made an appointment to get the ancestors for that period years ago when getting data for Irish Citizenship. We obtained our copy from a family friend who worked on getting them to computer and was a member of the County Council, Rory Murphy. Mary Ellen Chambers Lakewood Ohio

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Hi Mary, Is your brother named Brian? St. Luke Parish? Eddie O'Donnell Lakewood ----- Original Message ----- From: <Maryln61@aol.com> To: <OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 11:00 AM Subject: Re: OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-D Digest V03 #52 > Use Western Reserve Historical Society as your key words. It will give you > details re: use of their records, address, hours, etc. When we went to just > do research, we were told we had to join, which we did. We have found the > membership a good investment but we do live in the area. You might call or > write them re: use of their collections on a short term research. To visit > their other exhibits you do not have to be a member, just an admission fee > for that visit. All the details are on line. It is in the University Circle > area near the Art, Natural History Museum and VA Wade Park Medical Center. > > Cuyahoga County Archives are online and on Franklin Blvd. on Cleveland's near > west side. Arrive early in morning to gain access to their collections and > an assistant to get records for you. > > Mary Ellen Chambers > Lakewood Ohio >

Annie~ My husband Jack's maternal side is from Wexford. In fact, they still live there. Rathangan is a Catholic Parish, the church is directly across the road from O'Brian's Temple Bar which is owned by Jack's cousin Philip O'Brian. Most of the CLEARY family were baptized, married, and buried from there. This CLEARY family, American branch are Lakewood. CLEARY Real Estate, Rex Plumbing, former judge Pat CLEARY, CLEARY Construction, etc., are my husband's family. In Wexford among the townlands associated with that church are Blackstone (family home from 1798 is there), Kilmore Quay, Duncormick. The parish of Kilmore is down the road but not sure if some of Kilmore Quay records are there and at Rathangan. The records for the village of Kilmore Quay are not at the RC church there but at the church at Kilmore the next village over. The townland of Neimstown is in Kilmore parish where Jack's other set of grandparents the CLARKE's emigrated. I'll check the records to see what I have on HOGANS. The records from 1822 to 1854 are not at the Heritage Center nor do we have them. They were considered too fragile but they are at the Rathangan Church. We made an appointment to get the ancestors for that period years ago when getting data for Irish Citizenship. We obtained our copy from a family friend who worked on getting them to computer and was a member of the County Council, Rory Murphy. Mary Ellen Chambers Lakewood Ohio

Is anyone else on the list researching Madigans? I am especially interested in the James P. Madigan line in the 1870 census living in the same residence with John F. Goggin and his wife Mary. James has a wife and child. His son John F. Madigan (born later) is named for John. I believe James to be a cousin to John and immigrated with him in August of 1868 from the County Cork/Kerry boarder area. James' grandchildren's' names ( found in census records and obituaries) are familiar from conversations of Aunts. I believe that several of the children and grandchildren went into the church. Many Thanks, Karen Goggin _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

You need to email and resubscribe from your new email address, using the typical Rootsweb format: address is OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-L-request@rootsweb.com leave subject line blank type word subscribe in the message area and send. For any OH residents or visitors who want to go to the Cuyahoga Co. Archives, due to funding cuts, their hours and days of operation are limited. They are now closed on Tuesdays and open 8:30-3 M, W, Th, F only. Judith in OH -----Original Message----- From: Paet L Burcham [mailto:paetlb@juno.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 8:22 PM To: OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: address change want to keep getting this list Can someone tell me how I can continue on this list. I have changed my e-mail address from paetlb@juno.com to frogpondcottage@earthlink.net as of today, 05-20-2003. I can't find any way of changing it. Can somebody help me out here. Thanks.......... Paet Burcham

Can someone tell me how I can continue on this list. I have changed my e-mail address from paetlb@juno.com to frogpondcottage@earthlink.net as of today, 05-20-2003. I can't find any way of changing it. Can somebody help me out here. Thanks.......... Paet Burcham

Dear Mary Ellen, Trying to get caught up with the mailbox. Just spotted your e-mail. Who do you have from Rathangan? My Hogans came from there. Have that off their US arrival, but know nothing about the place. Hope you're keeping well. Annie

About 3 years ago, we dropped off Wexford birth and marriage records for Rathangan to Lonnie McCauley just before she passed. We paid an entrance fee, saw Lonnie and went to the desk to ask about data re: The Angle. The girl at the desk said for this one time she would allow us to use a few books she would get for us. However, after that one occasion we would be required to have membership for further research. Therefore, we joined that very week. With membership, we pay no fee each visit, just parking. However, anyone who is interested in a one occasion should contact them for clarification. They are online. There is just so much there that one visit is just the tip of the ice burg so to speak! Mary Ellen Chambers Lakewood Ohio

When I visited the Western Reserve Historical Society a couple of years ago, we just paid the daily admission fee and were able to do research. Maybe they have changed their rules???

I was there a few weeks ago. You pay your fee for the day and do your research. Parking is at a premium though. There is a pay lot across from the Society which is good choice if you are going to spend the entire day doing research. I found that for periods up to 2 hrs. the metered parking on Magnolia was a better deal. Dick Conoboy -----Original Message----- From: Lmsvo@aol.com [mailto:Lmsvo@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 7:08 AM To: OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-D Digest V03 #52 When I visited the Western Reserve Historical Society a couple of years ago, we just paid the daily admission fee and were able to do research. Maybe they have changed their rules???

Use Western Reserve Historical Society as your key words. It will give you details re: use of their records, address, hours, etc. When we went to just do research, we were told we had to join, which we did. We have found the membership a good investment but we do live in the area. You might call or write them re: use of their collections on a short term research. To visit their other exhibits you do not have to be a member, just an admission fee for that visit. All the details are on line. It is in the University Circle area near the Art, Natural History Museum and VA Wade Park Medical Center. Cuyahoga County Archives are online and on Franklin Blvd. on Cleveland's near west side. Arrive early in morning to gain access to their collections and an assistant to get records for you. Mary Ellen Chambers Lakewood Ohio

Where is the WEstern Reserve Historical Society located? Do you have an address? I will be visiting the Cleveland area next week and may have some time to go there depending on what area of town it is located. Thanks KMM OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-D Digest Volume 03 : Issue 52 > >Today's Topics: > #1 address help [Lmsvo@aol.com] > #2 Western Reserve [lillylakewood@juno.com] > >Administrivia: >To unsubscribe from OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-D, send a message to > > OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-D-request@rootsweb.com > >that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > >______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > address help > From: > Lmsvo@aol.com > Date: > Thu, 15 May 2003 19:08:21 EDT > To: > OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com > > >How can I find out the names of persons who lived at 48 Collins Place in >June, 1903 in Cleveland??????? Thanks for any help. Lynne > >______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Western Reserve > From: > lillylakewood@juno.com > Date: > Fri, 16 May 2003 12:26:14 -0700 > To: > OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com > > >Susan, >The Western Reserve Historical Society is not the same thing as Case >Western Reserve University. If your Uncle was a professor at the >college, perhaps the college library would have a copy of the book or >information about him. Generally, you need to go to the Western Reserve >Historical Society in person. You pay to go in and pay 25 cents a page >for copies. They are always very busy it seems. When you are there, >they are very helpful in helping to locate records. They helped me >locate civil war records when all I had was a name and a rumor that he >served in the civil war. I was able to get lots of papers from the >National Archives that verified all the information with their help. >Case Western Reserve University has a web site. I would contact them >about your Uncle of call the Library 216-368-2302 >Lilly > >Western Reserve is NOT very Genealogy friendly! >I am not sure why............Maybe they do not have enough employees. >When I >started doing research on line about 4 years ago, I even joined with an >annual fee. Things were still the same lots of paper work with no >results. >And they want more money! > >My Great Uncle was a Professor of Romance there, he wrote many articles >and a >couple of books. I NEVER was able to obtain information from them. > >Sooooogood luck:) If you figure out how to get info I would love to know! > >Happy Hunting, >Susan Ward > >Searching - BEUCUS, DEAMON, CHRISTENSON, MICHEL, RETTBERG, WARD > >________________________________________________________________ >The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! >Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! >Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > >

Go to: http://www.wrhs.org/sites/direct.htm#museum. It is in what is called the University Circle area. Basically adjacent to Case-Western Reserve University. Dick Conoboy -----Original Message----- From: Kathy [mailto:k.mueller@fuse.net] Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 6:12 PM To: OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-D Digest V03 #52 Where is the WEstern Reserve Historical Society located? Do you have an address? I will be visiting the Cleveland area next week and may have some time to go there depending on what area of town it is located. Thanks KMM OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-D Digest Volume 03 : Issue 52 > >Today's Topics: > #1 address help [Lmsvo@aol.com] > #2 Western Reserve [lillylakewood@juno.com] > >Administrivia: >To unsubscribe from OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-D, send a message to > > OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-D-request@rootsweb.com > >that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > >______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > address help > From: > Lmsvo@aol.com > Date: > Thu, 15 May 2003 19:08:21 EDT > To: > OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com > > >How can I find out the names of persons who lived at 48 Collins Place in >June, 1903 in Cleveland??????? Thanks for any help. Lynne > >______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Western Reserve > From: > lillylakewood@juno.com > Date: > Fri, 16 May 2003 12:26:14 -0700 > To: > OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com > > >Susan, >The Western Reserve Historical Society is not the same thing as Case >Western Reserve University. If your Uncle was a professor at the >college, perhaps the college library would have a copy of the book or >information about him. Generally, you need to go to the Western Reserve >Historical Society in person. You pay to go in and pay 25 cents a page >for copies. They are always very busy it seems. When you are there, >they are very helpful in helping to locate records. They helped me >locate civil war records when all I had was a name and a rumor that he >served in the civil war. I was able to get lots of papers from the >National Archives that verified all the information with their help. >Case Western Reserve University has a web site. I would contact them >about your Uncle of call the Library 216-368-2302 >Lilly > >Western Reserve is NOT very Genealogy friendly! >I am not sure why............Maybe they do not have enough employees. >When I >started doing research on line about 4 years ago, I even joined with an >annual fee. Things were still the same lots of paper work with no >results. >And they want more money! > >My Great Uncle was a Professor of Romance there, he wrote many articles >and a >couple of books. I NEVER was able to obtain information from them. > >Sooooogood luck:) If you figure out how to get info I would love to know! > >Happy Hunting, >Susan Ward > >Searching - BEUCUS, DEAMON, CHRISTENSON, MICHEL, RETTBERG, WARD > >________________________________________________________________ >The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! >Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! >Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > >

Lynne Contact the Cuyahoga County Archives. They have served me very well in matching an address to a name for a particular year. You can find the addresses that would attach to a name of a person or a business. They have sent me copies of pages with a paticular surname for consecutive years. Very helpful and only about $.25 per page. I don't have the URL right now but do a Google search. Bill Dalton in Gig Harbor, WA

Susan, The Western Reserve Historical Society is not the same thing as Case Western Reserve University. If your Uncle was a professor at the college, perhaps the college library would have a copy of the book or information about him. Generally, you need to go to the Western Reserve Historical Society in person. You pay to go in and pay 25 cents a page for copies. They are always very busy it seems. When you are there, they are very helpful in helping to locate records. They helped me locate civil war records when all I had was a name and a rumor that he served in the civil war. I was able to get lots of papers from the National Archives that verified all the information with their help. Case Western Reserve University has a web site. I would contact them about your Uncle of call the Library 216-368-2302 Lilly Western Reserve is NOT very Genealogy friendly! I am not sure why............Maybe they do not have enough employees. When I started doing research on line about 4 years ago, I even joined with an annual fee. Things were still the same lots of paper work with no results. And they want more money! My Great Uncle was a Professor of Romance there, he wrote many articles and a couple of books. I NEVER was able to obtain information from them. Sooooogood luck:) If you figure out how to get info I would love to know! Happy Hunting, Susan Ward Searching - BEUCUS, DEAMON, CHRISTENSON, MICHEL, RETTBERG, WARD ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

How can I find out the names of persons who lived at 48 Collins Place in June, 1903 in Cleveland??????? Thanks for any help. Lynne