In a message dated 6/3/2003 7:03:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jtfriend@eclipse.net writes: > . But what I learned was that his > father's name was Miles Goldrick, as I had always known, but his mother's > name was given as Margaret COONEY! I had always thought her name was > Margaret Burns. That was the name given on Philip Goldrick's death > certificate as the name of his mother. > I would trust the birth certificate information over the death certificate information anyday. Information on the death certificate is not always accurate, just information given by someone related to the deceased.

I have just received a genealogical bombshell! First of all, I wrote to the Diocese of Cleveland for some records, using their online research form and received their response in less than a week! But my true bombshell is that I asked for the baptismal record of my great grandfather, Philip Goldrick, basically hoping to connect with other family through learning the names of the sponsors. But what I learned was that his father's name was Miles Goldrick, as I had always known, but his mother's name was given as Margaret COONEY! I had always thought her name was Margaret Burns. That was the name given on Philip Goldrick's death certificate as the name of his mother. Now, it seems I will have to go back and start all over again. In a way, this makes some sort of sense: Miles Goldrick's brother, Owen, was married to Maria Cooney, May 29, 1851, in St. John's Cathedral -- I wonder if they were sisters? I know there is at least one person on this board researching the Cooney family ... if you read this, please tell me what you think and how this might fit in with your research. Janet Goldrick Friend

Karen......The sources that helped me with the Fire Dept were Martin Hauserman, the City of Cleveland Archivist and John McGolwn, Fire Dept Historian. Martin Hauserman email: mhauserman@clevelandcitycouncil.org phone: 216-664-3054 John McGolwn: 9633 Silk Ave, Cleveland, Oh 44102, 216-961-6413 I'm not sure how current the above information is; it's been a couple of years since I've had contact with either of them..........Pat

Several people in the past have asked about getting information on relatives that were part of the Cleveland Police Department. I have had terrific success getting information, pictures and other file information on a relative that was killed in the line of duty. The society will also help you find information on all officers. However, today was the first time that I visited the on-line memorial for officers killed in the line of duty. It is extremely nice. The link listed below is to my relative James F. Goggin, but there are links at the bottom of the page for the whole site. www.policememorialsociety.org/goggin_james.htm When I inquired several years ago, the Cleveland Fire Dept did not have anything to offer the public, but perhaps that has changed. Has anyone heard? I was originally told that all of the old records had been thrown out when the Superior/ Euclid station was rebuilt. Being in California I am not able to make contact with organizations in Cleveland very often. I'm betting that there must be something left, especially from the early days. The only records I have found of my grandfather in the fire dept. is a picture of the steam engine pulled by horses and driven by Grandfather in the Cleveland library. Cheers, Karen Goggin _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

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This is a difficult question. My own Irish ancestors came in through Philadelphia, settled in that city briefly and then moved on to Cleveland. I suppose that someone who came in through Philadelphia might easily have moved up to the Scranton-Wilkes-Barre area. New York is also a possibility. I would think Boston is unlikely, but don't rule out Canada. They could have come down through western New York State to that area of Pennsylvania (I'm sure this is just what you wanted to hear!) I guess I haven't been very helpful. Have you tried posting this query on whatever board covers the Scranton-Wilkes-Barre area? Janet in NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack R. Braverman" <jbraverman1@compuserve.com> To: <OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 8:28 AM Subject: Pa Entry Ports > Does anyone have any insights, stats, or impressions about which entry > ports immigrants from Mayo would have used when they intended to end up in > the Pa. coal fields? Esp. the Pittston-Scranton-Wilkes-Barre area. In 1949. > > Would Philadelphia/Baltimore have been more likely than NYC and/or Boston? > > What has been your experience? > > Jack Braverman > Cleveland. OH > > >

Good news for us! The Catholic Diocese found a baptism record for my great grandmother, Nellie Walsh Moran -- and it did have her mother's maiden name listed! I've been looking for this information for YEARS -- and here it was in our own back yard. Sigh. Here's what Christine Krosel found: (St. John's Cathedral! Since St. Malachi wasn't established until 1865.) Name: Helen Walsh Born: July 30, 1862, baptized August 3, 1862 Parents: Patrick Walsh and Mary Horan Sponsors: John Walsh and Mary Sheran Priest: Rev. T. P. Thorpe. Definitely worth the $10 research fee! Warm regards, Karen King Hiatt Rocky River, OH (suburb of Cleveland)

I'm hearing you loud and clear! Paet Burcham > [Original Message] > From: <Lmsvo@aol.com> > To: <OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 5/29/03 9:09:40 PM > Subject: need response > > Will some kind "Irish cousin" please respond to this email and let me know > tha the List is receiving my inquiries? Don't think I'm getting the"chatter." > Thanks. L

Hi List, While searching for my aunt's grave in Section 5 at Calvary Cemetery on our Memorial Day weekend visit, my husband and I came across a large CORCORAN plot--Hugh Corcoran who died 10 Sep 1936 at age 84, a daughter Evelyn d 16 Mr 1946, a 15 yr old son Hugh Jr. d 1907 & others. From the CPL necrology file I found that the family lived on E 87 in St Agnes parish & then moved to 2244 Maplewood Rd, Cleve Hts & St. Ann's parish. Since my husband is a Corcoran, I'm always interested in other's who just might be related or connected. Anyone familiar with this family? Thank you, Carolyn Corcoran

Seeking info on the family of Alexander Dunning, married to Margaret nee Smith. They came to Avon, Ohio from County Down, and took up farming along Lake Erie shore in Avon. They had several children, including John, Elizabeth, Catherine, Charles Ernest, Allen, Edson, Rose May (died young), Bertha, and Alfred. Charles Ernest Dunning married Del Wilcox, and remained in Avon, Ohio, as did the daughters. Anyone know anything about this family? Thank you, Sherry _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Thought the Cleveland Irish list might be interested in this event. Just received the notice this morning. 13th ANNUAL RIVERDAY ON WHISKEY ISLAND WHERE OUR RIVER GREETS OUR LAKE Saturday, May 31st - Speakers: 3-5 PM & Self Guided Walking Tours: 12 noon-6 PM The Cuyahoga: 200 years of History is the theme of RiverDay 2003 honoring Ohio's Bicentennial. Sixteen events are scheduled throughout the Cuyahoga River watershed to promote public understanding, enjoyment and stewardship of our waterways. The Friends of Whiskey Island has been asked by RiverDay Events Coordinator Friends of the Crooked River to sponsor a RiverDay 2003 event at Whiskey Island The Friends of Whiskey Island cordially invites the public to WHISKEY ISLAND, the beautiful 20-acre greenspace located on Lake Erie at the mouth of the Cuyahoga River. WHISKEY ISLAND-RiverDay 2003 activities take place on Saturday, May 31, from 12 - 6 PM The activities include a self-guided walking tour of this unique 20-acre urban park setting as well as a two-hour speakers event. The public is encouraged to bring picnic lunches and explore the 20-acre site to enjoy our lakefront and riverfront. Capture the panoramic views of the lake, river and downtown Cleveland that are unique to Whiskey Island. From 3-5 PM public officials from Cleveland, Cuyahoga County and Ohio and speakers from nonprofit organizations will be Whiskey Island to publicly share their plans, projects and visions for our waterways, greenspace, natural area, historic structure, waterfront revitalization's, environment and public access. The presentations will take place at the easternmost edge of the 20-acre Whiskey Island proposed park, overlooking the Cuyahoga River, Lake Erie and Downtown Cleveland RiverDay on Whiskey Island information: Ed Hauser, Chair - Friends of Whiskey Island Phone: 216-651-3476 Email: wi@citizensvision.org Website: www.citzensvision.org

Thanks to help from members of this group I am closer to tracing my Ohio cousins.I now seek any descendants ofThomas P. and Mary (Mamie) Murray (nee Moore) of Cleveland. Mary who was born 1899 and died 4th July 1974 had a daughter Elizabeth (Betty). We in Ireland have lost contact with this family since 1901. Any help in tracing the family is appreciated. John Moore

I am almost envious and need FL's warmth! Someday soon winter will be over up here. Enjoy! Mary Ellen

Thank you, Cousin Mary Ellen....I think the computer/address thingy is fixed now.... p.s. I'm in Florida!!

John Expect several others have already sent this to you. It's good to find someone in Ireland searching for his Cleveland ancestors, rather than the other way around! Jim O'Donnell Name: Murray, Mary M. Date: Jul 7 1974 Source: Plain Dealer; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #138. Notes: Murray. Mary M. Murray (nee Moore), wife of the late Thomas, beloved mother of Betty, July 4, 1974. Funeral Mass Monday, July 8, at 10:30 a.m. St. Joseph's Church. Interment Holy Cross Cemetery. Friends may call at The Jardine Funeral Home, 14701 Pearl Rd., Strongsville, Sunday 2-4 And 7-9 P.M. Save Record 3 <http://dxsrv4.cpl.org/WebZ/BookMark?sessionid=01-2900-285726472&recno=3&resultset=2&format=F&next=html/obit_results.html&bad=error/badfetch.html> Id#: 0647692 John C. Moore wrote: > Thanks to help from members of this group I am closer to tracing my > Ohio cousins.I now seek any descendants ofThomas P. and Mary (Mamie) > Murray (nee Moore) of Cleveland. > Mary who was born 1899 and died 4th July 1974 > had a daughter Elizabeth (Betty). We in Ireland have lost contact with > this family since 1901. Any help in tracing the family is appreciated. > > John Moore > >

Coming in loud and clear in Lakewood! Mary Ellen Chambers

Will some kind "Irish cousin" please respond to this email and let me know tha the List is receiving my inquiries? Don't think I'm getting the"chatter." Thanks. L

John~ Do you have the name of the Cleveland Parish they belonged. The parish name would give me a clue as where to suggest they might be in modern time. Also, if they attended Catholic High School or Catholic College/University in this area? Some of the Catholic High Schools have active alumna associations so if their children attended this might be an avenue. What about military records? Any males who might have served in the two World Wars, Korea or 'Nam? Did the MOORE name literally die out? If not you could try the White Pages on line for a street address or phone number. Mary Ellen Chambers

In a message dated 5/29/03 8:31:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jbraverman1@compuserve.com writes: Thursday, May29th, 2003 11:15 AM Jack Braverman, My AUNT, DELIA WALSH MATHEIS, was from MAYO,OLD SOD. The "WALSH" CLAN settle in BALTIMORE,MD. (And some are still there) Some of the, WALSH's can be found living in ST.EDWARD's & HOLY TRINTY Catholic Church (East 68 to East 73rd & WOODLAND AREA. Mine were found on East 68 & East 71st Paul-Euclid, O hi O

Jack, My Mayo family all came in via NY but came to OH and no mining connections. Even trips back to Ireland in early 1900s were through NYC. We have a classic family story of my great uncle Pat MCFADDEN getting so drunk in NYC that he missed the boat back home. His older sister Ann MCFADDEN MCNAMARA was furious! She was paying his fare and was also pregnant. Each year for first few children she would travel to Mayo for their birth. Pat had a wee problem with the porter his whole life! Mary Ellen