To: John Moore e-mail: moorejc@iol.ie Dear John, The cemetery gave this information to me. Patrick is buried in Section 13, Lot 58C, Grave 3. They telephoned on the 16th. You might know that we were there on Father's Day, the 15th. So, I am asking the Cleveland-Irish for some help. Stephen said that we'll make another trip, when he has some time off. When we were at the cemetery, We saw a lot of large monuments, but they only show the surname. Maybe someone from the group will be going out there sooner and take a peak. Calvary is a huge place, but Section 13 is on the Main Rd. down from the cemetery office. Annie

Dear Lynne, Thank you so much for this information. I have had good luck leaving what I needed on their answering machine. They have called back in a day or so with the Section, Lot and Grave numbers, but they couldn't answer any questions. I've been helping a fella in Westport with his Moore family. His Patrick Moore is in Section 13, Lot 58C, Grave 3. It's a 'cemetery vault'. Does anyone know what that looks like? He is hoping that the other family members will be identified on the vault. When we were there on Father's Day, before I had Patrick Moore's information, we saw a lot of large monuments. They only had the surname on the outside. If I sent for Patrick Moore's info, do you think they would know who else is buried there? Thanks again. Annie

After sending a list of 13 relatives whose graves I wished located, within 1 week I received 12 of 13 Section and Lot Locations on individual 3 x 5 index cards!!! 1st three searches free; $5 each after. Calvary and St. John's Cemeteries maps with locations highlighted also included with index cards. Send list with names, burial/death dates via snail mail to: Calvary Cemetery; P. O. Box 605310, Cleveland, Ohio 44105. Lynne

Have no links to these surnames but perhaps someone in Cleveland does or did. It was on the IRELAND-MAYO list. Nashua Reporter Nashua, Chickasaw, Iowa Jan. 31, 1924 A Pioneer Mother Called On Thursday, January 24, 1924, Mrs. James O"CONNOR, a pioneer settler of Frederika, was called to a better beyond in the ninety-first year of her age. She was about to partake of her supper when death called her. Miss Mary COSTELLO was born in Mayo County, Ireland, on March 17, 1833. When a girl she emigrated with her parents to American and located in Cleveland Ohio. At the age of 19 years she was united in marriage to James O'CONNOR. In 1864 the couple settled near Frederika, Iowa. Thirteen children were born to this family. Nine of them are dead, but four sons survive, namely: James of Idaho, John, near Republic, Thomas of Montana and Robert of Frederika. The funeral services were conducted by Rev. B.A. Erdland at the home of her son Robert, and the remains were laid to rest in the old cemetery west of Frederika. Mary Ellen Chambers

Dear list, I am unable to go tomorrow since I am having a garage sale that day. If someone is planning on going and going across the street to St. John's Cemetery, I would greatly appreciate someone looking for the grave of Michael Clarke/Clark who is buried there. I would like to know if any other Clarke's are buried near him, and the information on his stone. He is buried in Sec. 3, Range 6, Part 11 lot 15 Age 66 Died 5-18-1895 Michael Clarke lived on Washington Ave and was the neighborhood huckster/peddler. My husband's g,g, grandfather. Thanks in advance, Lilly On Sat, 7 Jun 2003 14:42:56 -0400 "Karen Hiatt" <Karen@HiattFamily.com> writes: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohclecem/woodland150.html > > It's right in the same neighborhood as St. Johns and St. Joseph > cemeteries -- this might be the perfect day to go -- might meet > someone > looking at YOUR family plot! > > The good news is that the celebration will include nice amenities -- > like > port-a-potties. > > >

Carolyn, that is the way it was spelled on 1920 census and I figured there could be a couple varations. Deb

Dear Deb, Sorry, no connection to your people. But you did give me an odd spelling of Corcoran which could possibly happen. Carolyn

I assume that this would probably not have happened at Calvary for the following reasons. Families have deeds for the plots. The size of each grave in the plot is marked and if there is a body how "deep". As the various graves are used by the family, the records are marked with data as is the deed which the undertaker has and then returned to the family. About 1995, we had a marker put on our daughter's grave. Calvary told us we had to put the name of the other person in the grave on the stone. This surprised me because in another part of the cemetery, my great grandparents and an uncle are buried. Their names are not on the stones, only listed in the record that they are buried in that particular plot. I assume this is a fairly new rule there. The g grandparents and uncle were buried in 1909, 1920 and 1922. We did put the name of a great uncle who had died over sixty years ago in small letters at the bottom of the stone. In our experience with both maternal and paternal burial sites at Calvary, they seem to be pretty much on target with who's buried where. Someone on the list mentioned that there were several bodies in one grave, unmarked at Calvary after removal from St. Joseph. It was a long time ago but they should check because I would think there would not be mass grave sites there without a record. Interesting. Mary Ellen Chambers

http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohclecem/woodland150.html It's right in the same neighborhood as St. Johns and St. Joseph cemeteries -- this might be the perfect day to go -- might meet someone looking at YOUR family plot! The good news is that the celebration will include nice amenities -- like port-a-potties.

Carolyn, I saw your post on the cemetery, and I am sorry I cannot help out with that question. However, I do have a question regarding CAROCAN (COROCAN). I have been stumped at the wall for the last 2-1/2 years on researching my grandfather (Albert BURKE from Cleveland and his wife Lillian KEARNS from Mass.) I located a Lillian M. Kearns, age 17, on the 1920 census for Plymouth County, Town of Brockton, Mass. I think this could possibly be my grandmother. She lived in the household of Christopher and Christine CAROCAN. Lillian was listed as a niece. Do these names sound familiar in your research? I anxiously await your reply with crossed fingers and toes! :-) Deb Burke

Sorry, It was Dick who sent this message. Carolyn

Lily, Great story---sounds possible re the Murphy gravesite. Thanks, Carolyn

Hi, Thanks for the insight re sharing of expenses & graves. Could be true, couldn't it? Would sure solve some mysteries. Carolyn

Dear Annie, Patrick Hogan age 50 died 14 June 1928, buried Calvary Cemetery Section 54 Lot 353 Grave 4. The grave site has a large Corcoran monument but no names. Matthew & Elizabeth Farrell Corcoran are buried in graves 1 & 2 (moved from St. Joseph's Woodland in 1928---Calvary office does not know who moved them). Grave 3 is empty. I am not absolutely sure that Elizabeth's name was Farrell. Any light you can throw on my Hogan mystery would be appreciated. We may have corresponded another year re this info. Carolyn Corcoran

My husband's Uncle told me a story beginning "You know there's a person who isn't a Murphy in the Murphy plot" He said that his mother went to visit the graves and was surprised to see a freshly dug grave. She was rather shocked because no family member, that she was aware of, had recently passed away. They inquired about the name of the person who was buried there and were given the run around for quite some time. They kept inquiring and finally were told by the undertaker that the body of a homeless drunkard was left at the gates of the cemetery in the middle of the night. Supposedly, this was fairly common. The undertaker, believing that everyone was entitled to a decent burial, but being too tired to take him to the potter's field, put him in the Murphy plot thinking it would never be used because it had been empty for quite some time. The undertaker (a drinking man himself it seems) told them he had one last drink with him (he was found with his bottle still on his possession) and then buried him with it. I don't know how much truth there is in this story, but if there was an undertaker who had a habit of doing this it could explain these unknown people without necrology or census records. They are the poor souls who should have been buried in an unmarked grave in the potter's field. Lilly ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

The story has the faint aroma of being an apocryphal one, however, where would we be without a bit of blarney? Dick Conoboy -----Original Message----- From: lillylakewood@juno.com [mailto:lillylakewood@juno.com] Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 12:11 PM To: OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Calvary Cemetery-mysterious bodies My husband's Uncle told me a story beginning "You know there's a person who isn't a Murphy in the Murphy plot" He said that his mother went to visit the graves and was surprised to see a freshly dug grave. She was rather shocked because no family member, that she was aware of, had recently passed away. They inquired about the name of the person who was buried there and were given the run around for quite some time. They kept inquiring and finally were told by the undertaker that the body of a homeless drunkard was left at the gates of the cemetery in the middle of the night. Supposedly, this was fairly common. The undertaker, believing that everyone was entitled to a decent burial, but being too tired to take him to the potter's field, put him in the Murphy plot thinking it would never be used because it had been empty for quite some time. The undertaker (a drinking man himself it seems) told them he had one last drink with him (he was found with his bottle still on his possession) and then buried him with it. I don't know how much truth there is in this story, but if there was an undertaker who had a habit of doing this it could explain these unknown people without necrology or census records. They are the poor souls who should have been buried in an unmarked grave in the potter's field. Lilly ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

St John cemetery is on Woodland about E. 65 St. Information concerning residents is at Calvary cemetery. Four of my greatgrandparents who lived in the Irish angle and died before 1906 are buried there. Philip O'Brien

In a message dated 6/5/2003 12:30:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, JCorco7956@aol.com writes: > . My Matthew &Elizabeth Corcoran were moved to > Calvary 11 June 1928 and buried with a Patrick Hogan who d 14 June 1928 at > age 50. > Have never been able to find any Ohio or Cleveland death record of Mr. > Hogan. Have no idea who he is. So some mystery still remains I have the same problem. There are 8 people buried in my great-grndmother's grave but hers is the only name on the stone. It took me over two years before Calvary would tell me who the other people are. Three of the people I have absolutely no idea of who they are. Did people share grave expenses back then or did they just purchase partial plots? I found the obituary in the necrology file for one of these people and cannot make any connection. I don't even know if they are from the same neighborhood.

Hi, What was 'Mr. Hogan's' first name and time frame? Thanks Annie Drews (Hogan)

Judy, Don't know why this prints so large. This is the only Cooney/ Goldrick on the Historical Marriages. Couldn't find Goldrick names that you mentioned on Ancestry. The ones below were the 8 Goldricks on the 1910 Census. Owen showed up in Fairfield Twp. until 1870 and then Cuyahoga Co. There are 2 Goldricks on the 1920 Census, William 35 & Eugene 45. Let me know if you want that info. Annie Drews Bride Groom Prefix Prefix First Name MARGARET First Name OWEN Middle Name Middle Name Last Name COONY Last Name GOLDRICK Suffix Suffix Gender F Gender M Record Key 1128841177 Record Key 1128842308 -------------------------------------------- 1910 Census Aubra Goldrick Age: 28 State: OH Color: W Enumeration District: 0091 Birth Place: Ohio Visit: 0035 County: Cuyahoga, Cleveland Relation: Head of Household Other Residents: Relation Name Color Age Birth Place Wife Gussia 26 Ohio Son James 03 Ohio Son Donald 01 Ohio Sister Burdetts Goldrick 2- NR Sister Mucette 22 Ohio 1 non-relative Burdetts Goldrick Age: 2- State: OH Color: I Enumeration District: 0091 Birth Place: NR Visit: 0035 County: Cuyahoga, Cleveland Relation: Sister Other Residents: Relation Name Color Age Birth Place Head of Household Aubra Goldrick W Charles Goldrick Age: 33 State: OH Color: W Enumeration District: 0348 Birth Place: Ohio Visit: 0271 County: Cuyahoga, Cleveland Relation: Head of Household Other Residents: Relation Name Color Age Birth Place Wife Margaret 30 Ohio Elinore Goldrick Age: 42 State: OH Color: W Enumeration District: 0328 Birth Place: FR Visit: 0059 County: Cuyahoga, Cleveland Relation: Head of Household Other Residents: Relation Name Color Age Birth Place Daughter Mornia 18 Ohio Son Lewis 15 Ohio Kathrine W Goldrick Age: 52 State: OH Color: W Enumeration District: 0382 Birth Place: PENN Visit: 0097 County: Cuyahoga, Cleveland Relation: Servant Other Residents: Relation Name Color Age Birth Place Head of Household Leigh H Elliott W Miles Goldrick Age: 79 State: OH Color: W Enumeration District: 0214 Birth Place: IRE Visit: 0038 County: Cuyahoga, Cleveland Relation: INMA Other Residents: Relation Name Color Age Birth Place Head of Household Isadore Gross W Mucette Goldrick Age: 22 State: OH Color: Enumeration District: 0091 Birth Place: Ohio Visit: 0035 County: Cuyahoga, Cleveland Relation: Sister Other Residents: Relation Name Color Age Birth Place Head of Household Aubra Goldrick W Thomas Goldrick Age: 35 State: OH Color: W Enumeration District: 0333 Birth Place: Ohio Visit: 0044 County: Cuyahoga, Cleveland Relation: Head of Household Other Residents: Relation Name Color Age Birth Place Wife Martha 32 GER Son Walter 05 Ohio Viewing records 1-8 of 8 -------------------------------------------- Name: Osborn Goldrick Serial Number: 2435825 Race: W Residence: 13521 Emily Ave., East Cleveland, O. Enlistment Division: National Army LB 2 Enlistment Location: Cleveland, O. Enlistment Date: 27 Apr 1918 Birth Place: Delaware, O. Birth Date / Age: 24 10/12 Years Assigns Comment: 158 Depot Brigade to 25 May 1918; Battery F 323 Field Artillery to Discharge Meuse-Argonne; Defensive Sector. American Expeditionary Forces 10 June 1918 to 13 May 1919. Honorable discharge 27 May 1919. Volume #: 6