Jerry, Thanks for your response. My Grandmother was Mary O'Donnell born in approx. 1880 in Achill Island County Mayo. She was married to Patrick O'Donnell in approx. 1900 in Cleveland OH. Her second husband was Edward J. O'Donnell married in Cleveland in approx. 1904. All Grandparents were born in Achill, married in Cleveland. Where are you living now? Thanks cuz, Eddie O'Donnell Cleveland OH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry O'Donnell" <jojerry@mwt.net> To: <ODONNELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 3:51 PM Subject: RE: [ODONNELL] O'Donnells from Tipperary > I just found my Gggrandparents were both O'Donnells. I have > not found any information on where they were from beyond > being born in Ireland. Maybe someone out there has a > connection. My Gggrandfather was Patrick O'Donnell, b about > 1835. My Gggrandmother was Mary O'Donnell, born in Ireland, > arrived in US in 1855 and was naturalized in 1857. They > were married in October 1959 in Hazelton, PA. There must be > an O'Donnell connection out there somewhere. > > Thank, Jerry O'Donnell > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ed [mailto:ed_od_cpa@wideopenwest.com] > Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 1:49 PM > To: ODONNELL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ODONNELL] O'Donnells from Tipperary > > Thanks for your reply. > > I agree with you!!! > > My Grandma was an O'Donnell who married > two O'Donnells. All were born in Achill Island > off Mayo and married in the USA. > > I believe I am related to all O'Donnells > > Eddie O'Donnell > Cleveland Ohio > USA > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lynda Tataryn" <ltataryn@moderndigital.net> > To: "Ed" <ed_od_cpa@wideopenwest.com> > Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 2:23 PM > Subject: Re: [ODONNELL] O'Donnells from Tipperary > > > > Life is full of surprises. I enjoy getting messages from > other O'Donnells > > and it's amazing there are so many of us "out there". All > of my O'Donnell > > forbears came from Donegal but I'm sure all the O'Donnells > are related > even > > if they came from different parts of Ireland. Just think > of the family > > connections that exist today all over the place. Of > course our ease of > > transport has contributed to that. > > > > Good to talk to you, > > > > Lynda Tataryn > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ed" <ed_od_cpa@wideopenwest.com> > > To: <ODONNELL-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 10:37 AM > > Subject: Re: [ODONNELL] O'Donnells from Tipperary > > > > > > > Sue, > > > > > > Thanks for the info. > > > > > > Good Job!! > > > > > > My O'Donnells are from Achill Island off the > > > west coast of County Mayo. > > > > > > Eddie O'Donnell > > > Lakewood Ohio (Cleveland) > > > USA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Sue O'Donnell" <sfodonnell@humboldt1.com> > > > To: <ODONNELL-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 1:39 PM > > > Subject: [ODONNELL] O'Donnells from Tipperary > > > > > > > > > > Hello list! > > > > > > > > I was forwarded this message from the Co. Tipperary > list. I believe > > that > > > Tipperary is where my family was from. They came to the > USA in the > early > > > 1860s - seems the names James W. O'Donnell and John T. > O'Donnell were > big > > > with them. Women's names were Catherine, Susanna, May > and Madeline. > > > > > > > > Anyone else? > > > > > > > > Regards to all, > > > > > > > > Sue O'Donnell > > > > Northern California > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > X-Message: #5 > > > > Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 14:24:28 -0700 > > > > From: Pat Connors <nymets11@pacbell.net> > > > > To: CoTipperary-L@rootsweb.com > > > > Message-ID: <3EE3A98C.3060506@pacbell.net> > > > > Subject: O'Donnells from Co. Tipperary > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; > format=flowed > > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > > > > > > > from A Biographical Dictionary of Tipperary by Martin > O'Dwyer > > > > > > > > O'DONNELL, Denis. Reg: No. 5846. Rank: Private - > Irish Guards, 2nd > > > > Batt. Killed in action France, 15th September 1916. > Born Co. > Tipperary > > > > > > > > O'DONNELL, Edmond. right Rev Mons. Dean of Cashel > P.P., V.G. Born: > > > > Knockgraffon, Co. Tipperary, 22nd January 1882. He > was ordained in > > > > Maynooth on 23rd June 1907 and became Diocesan > Inspector from > 1909-1915. > > > > He was professor in St. Patrick's College, Thurles > from 1915-1922. > He > > > > served as curate in Golden from 1922-1926 and in > Bansha from > 1926-1941. > > > > He worked as P.P. in Knocklong from 1941-1947 and > P.P./Dean Vicar > > > > General in Cashel from 1947-1962. Edmond was chosen > as Vicar > Capitular > > > > from 1959-60. He died on 26th August 1962. > > > > > > > > O'DONNELL, Hugh. shanaclough, Oola. Killed in action > Kilfinnane, 7th > > > > December 1922. Buried Solohead, Co. Tipperary. > > > > > > > > O'DONNELL, James Louis. The Apostle of Newfoundland. > Born: > > > > Knocklofty, Co. Tipperary, 1738. He left Ireland age > 18 to the > > > > Franciscan Convent, St. Isidore, Rome. He was later > sent to Bohemia > and > > > > was ordained in 1770 in Prague. He came back to his > native country in > > > > 1775 and lived in Waterford. He was designated prior > to the > Franciscans > > > > there in 1779 and later became provincial of the order > in Ireland. > > > > Primary Newfoundland merchants and their agents in > Waterford selected > > > > him to go to Newfoundland to work as prefect and > vicar-apostolic. He > > > > was the first fully accomplished Catholic priest to > work there. He > > > > worked tremendously hard in establishing schools and > churches. He was > > > > consecrated Quebec as titular bishop of Thyatira, and > when he came > back > > > > to Newfoundland he made his first Episcopal > visitation. He brought > out > > > > a work on diocesan statutes in 1801 and split the > diocese into > missions. > > > > Due to the scarcity of priests, he also worked as a > mission priest. > > > > > > > > He used his authority with the Catholics to control > anti-government > > > > feeling. In 1800 he discovered a planned mutiny among > the soldiers of > > > > the newfoundland regiment in St. Johns and informed > Major General > > > > Skerret. He was awarded a pension for life of #50 > from the > government. > > > > The missionary work was tough and demanding and 1807 > he resigned and > > > > returned to Ireland. He passed his final years in > Waterford as a > > > > preacher. He died on 15th April 1811 in Waterford. > > > > > > > > O'DONNELL, John. Reg: No. 3938. Rank: Private - > Royal Irish > Regiment, > > > > 2nd Batt. Died of wounds France, 24th May 1915. > Born: Co. > Tipperary. > > > > > > > > O'DONNELL, Patrick Mary. Archbishop of Brisbane. > Born: Fethard, Co. > > > > Tipperary. He was one of a family of 16 children. He > was reared near > > > > Slievenamon and after completing school he entered the > priesthood with > > > > the Jesuits at Mungret. He later attended All Hallows > College in > > > > Dublin. Afterwards he traveled to Rome to the College > of Propaganda > > > > Fide. He was ordained a priest in the Basilica of St. > John Lateran in > > > > 1922. He returned to Ireland in the wake of the > Treaty and had to > make > > > > the long journey to Australia. He settled in > Victoria, where he was > > > > priest in the diocese of Sale for 27 years. After his > appointment as > > > > Vicar-General, he was made Coadjutor Archbishop of > Brisbane in 1949. > > > > Aged 68, following the death os Archbishop Duhig he > became his > > > > successor. He was archbishop for eight years before > his retirement. > > > > Archbishop O'Donnell died in Brisbane on 2nd November > 1980, aged 83. > > > > > > > > O'DONNELL, Richard. Reg: No. 5039. Rank: Private - > Royal Irish > > > > Regiment, 6th September 1916. Born: Ballylooby, Co. > Tipperary. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA > > > > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > > > > Professional Genealogy Research > > > > > > > > "Prosperity is just around the corner." - Herbert > Hoover > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online > genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1 > 237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online > genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1 > 237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online > genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1 > 237 > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Thanks for your reply. I agree with you!!! My Grandma was an O'Donnell who married two O'Donnells. All were born in Achill Island off Mayo and married in the USA. I believe I am related to all O'Donnells Eddie O'Donnell Cleveland Ohio USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynda Tataryn" <ltataryn@moderndigital.net> To: "Ed" <ed_od_cpa@wideopenwest.com> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 2:23 PM Subject: Re: [ODONNELL] O'Donnells from Tipperary > Life is full of surprises. I enjoy getting messages from other O'Donnells > and it's amazing there are so many of us "out there". All of my O'Donnell > forbears came from Donegal but I'm sure all the O'Donnells are related even > if they came from different parts of Ireland. Just think of the family > connections that exist today all over the place. Of course our ease of > transport has contributed to that. > > Good to talk to you, > > Lynda Tataryn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ed" <ed_od_cpa@wideopenwest.com> > To: <ODONNELL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 10:37 AM > Subject: Re: [ODONNELL] O'Donnells from Tipperary > > > > Sue, > > > > Thanks for the info. > > > > Good Job!! > > > > My O'Donnells are from Achill Island off the > > west coast of County Mayo. > > > > Eddie O'Donnell > > Lakewood Ohio (Cleveland) > > USA > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sue O'Donnell" <sfodonnell@humboldt1.com> > > To: <ODONNELL-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 1:39 PM > > Subject: [ODONNELL] O'Donnells from Tipperary > > > > > > > Hello list! > > > > > > I was forwarded this message from the Co. Tipperary list. I believe > that > > Tipperary is where my family was from. They came to the USA in the early > > 1860s - seems the names James W. O'Donnell and John T. O'Donnell were big > > with them. Women's names were Catherine, Susanna, May and Madeline. > > > > > > Anyone else? > > > > > > Regards to all, > > > > > > Sue O'Donnell > > > Northern California > > > > > > > > > > > > X-Message: #5 > > > Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 14:24:28 -0700 > > > From: Pat Connors <nymets11@pacbell.net> > > > To: CoTipperary-L@rootsweb.com > > > Message-ID: <3EE3A98C.3060506@pacbell.net> > > > Subject: O'Donnells from Co. Tipperary > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > > > > > from A Biographical Dictionary of Tipperary by Martin O'Dwyer > > > > > > O'DONNELL, Denis. Reg: No. 5846. Rank: Private - Irish Guards, 2nd > > > Batt. Killed in action France, 15th September 1916. Born Co. Tipperary > > > > > > O'DONNELL, Edmond. right Rev Mons. Dean of Cashel P.P., V.G. Born: > > > Knockgraffon, Co. Tipperary, 22nd January 1882. He was ordained in > > > Maynooth on 23rd June 1907 and became Diocesan Inspector from 1909-1915. > > > He was professor in St. Patrick's College, Thurles from 1915-1922. He > > > served as curate in Golden from 1922-1926 and in Bansha from 1926-1941. > > > He worked as P.P. in Knocklong from 1941-1947 and P.P./Dean Vicar > > > General in Cashel from 1947-1962. Edmond was chosen as Vicar Capitular > > > from 1959-60. He died on 26th August 1962. > > > > > > O'DONNELL, Hugh. shanaclough, Oola. Killed in action Kilfinnane, 7th > > > December 1922. Buried Solohead, Co. Tipperary. > > > > > > O'DONNELL, James Louis. The Apostle of Newfoundland. Born: > > > Knocklofty, Co. Tipperary, 1738. He left Ireland age 18 to the > > > Franciscan Convent, St. Isidore, Rome. He was later sent to Bohemia and > > > was ordained in 1770 in Prague. He came back to his native country in > > > 1775 and lived in Waterford. He was designated prior to the Franciscans > > > there in 1779 and later became provincial of the order in Ireland. > > > Primary Newfoundland merchants and their agents in Waterford selected > > > him to go to Newfoundland to work as prefect and vicar-apostolic. He > > > was the first fully accomplished Catholic priest to work there. He > > > worked tremendously hard in establishing schools and churches. He was > > > consecrated Quebec as titular bishop of Thyatira, and when he came back > > > to Newfoundland he made his first Episcopal visitation. He brought out > > > a work on diocesan statutes in 1801 and split the diocese into missions. > > > Due to the scarcity of priests, he also worked as a mission priest. > > > > > > He used his authority with the Catholics to control anti-government > > > feeling. In 1800 he discovered a planned mutiny among the soldiers of > > > the newfoundland regiment in St. Johns and informed Major General > > > Skerret. He was awarded a pension for life of #50 from the government. > > > The missionary work was tough and demanding and 1807 he resigned and > > > returned to Ireland. He passed his final years in Waterford as a > > > preacher. He died on 15th April 1811 in Waterford. > > > > > > O'DONNELL, John. Reg: No. 3938. Rank: Private - Royal Irish Regiment, > > > 2nd Batt. Died of wounds France, 24th May 1915. Born: Co. Tipperary. > > > > > > O'DONNELL, Patrick Mary. Archbishop of Brisbane. Born: Fethard, Co. > > > Tipperary. He was one of a family of 16 children. He was reared near > > > Slievenamon and after completing school he entered the priesthood with > > > the Jesuits at Mungret. He later attended All Hallows College in > > > Dublin. Afterwards he traveled to Rome to the College of Propaganda > > > Fide. He was ordained a priest in the Basilica of St. John Lateran in > > > 1922. He returned to Ireland in the wake of the Treaty and had to make > > > the long journey to Australia. He settled in Victoria, where he was > > > priest in the diocese of Sale for 27 years. After his appointment as > > > Vicar-General, he was made Coadjutor Archbishop of Brisbane in 1949. > > > Aged 68, following the death os Archbishop Duhig he became his > > > successor. He was archbishop for eight years before his retirement. > > > Archbishop O'Donnell died in Brisbane on 2nd November 1980, aged 83. > > > > > > O'DONNELL, Richard. Reg: No. 5039. Rank: Private - Royal Irish > > > Regiment, 6th September 1916. Born: Ballylooby, Co. Tipperary. > > > > > > -- > > > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA > > > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > > > Professional Genealogy Research > > > > > > "Prosperity is just around the corner." - Herbert Hoover > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > >

I received an e-mail from Dennis West on the RootsWeb Gibbons list -- and he is looking for MALE participants (needs NINE of them) who are descended father-to-son in an unbroken line for several generations. (And he's not being sexist -- the genetic markers that are tested are on the Y chromosome) If you are interested, please contact him directly. We're still looking for OUR Gibbons family members -- and all known to us right now are women. It's a challenge! Warm regards, Karen ****** From: <dwest3@utk.edu> To: <GIBBONS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 7:16 PM Subject: [GIBBONS] DNA testing for genealogy Good Evening cousins: I am wondering if we have enough interest to start a GIBBONS surname DNA project. I am coordinating a DNA project for the WEST surname and would be happy to do the same for our GIBBONS surname. The test most widely used is the Y-STR (for Y chromosome, Short Tandem Repeats) which test the male chromosome. Since it uses the Y chromosome, which is passed from father to son unchanged for generations, only living males with the GIBBONS surname (or a variant spelling like GIBBINS, GIBENS, etc.) would be able to submit a DNA sample. The DNA test does NOT tell you who your ancestor was or where he originated, though there is some interesting associated information on deep ancestral origins (thousands of years ago). The value of the DNA test comes when the results from one GIBBONS male are compared with the results from another GIBBONS male. If the two samples match, then they are assured that they share a common ancestor. It would still require traditional genealogy research to find that ancestor, but each person may have information that the other did not have. The test costs $169 for a 25 marker genetic test. There is a test for $99 that test only 12 markers, but the number of false positives is too high for reliability with the smaller number of markers. The sample collection is very easy, a swab is used wipe the inside of the cheek (no blood needed). You can see photos of Bob Dorsey collecting his sample for the DORSEY DNA project at this site: http://davedorsey.com/dna.html If you do not have a living male GIBBONS in your line, you could try to find a distant male cousin descended from the same line and ask him to participate. If we can get about 10 people willing to submit a DNA sample, I will set up a surname project at Family Tree DNA http://www.familytreedna.com/ I have sample number one from one of my GIBBONS uncles, so we need nine more people. There are several webpages with excellent explanations of DNA for genealogy research, here are a few. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~allpoms/genetics.html http://blairgenealogy.com/dna/dna101.html http://www.kerchner.com/kerchdna.htm Please contact me if you or someone from your line would be willing to submit a sample. Also send me any questions you may have. Dennis West in Knoxville TN

Hello list, Wanted to respond to Karen & any others researching the McMANAMAN, MORAN, & other listed surnames found in IRE., Cleveland & Milan, MO. The McMANAMAN name was Thomas-b. abt. 1836, IRE; emig. bef. 1856; m. Anna MURPHY, b. June 1837-41, IRE, in Cleveland, St. John Cath.,  23 Dec. 1856; moved to Milan, Sullivan Co., MO. in 1877 where Anna's sister, Catherine MURPHY McGINTY (w. of Peter McGINTY) lived.        They had 7 children, all b. Cleveland, bet. 1857-1877: Mary Ann McCARTY, Patrtick (never married); Margaret "Maggie" EMBERTON; John ( b. 1872, d. 1 Yr. 1873); Catherine "Katie" MORAN; Ellen Rose HALLIBURTON; and Anna ARNOLD.         Catherine was m. to Joseph P. MORAN.  Their daughter, May,  b. & d. 1889. At that time, they lived in Milan, MO.  I have the 1900 Sullivan Co. cs showing the following MORANS:        David, b. 1822 IRE, w. Mary        David, b. 1825        Joseph "J.P.", b. 1858 OH;               Bridget, mother, b. abt. 1825, IRE;              w. Catherine McMANAMAN, b. 1 Apr 1867, OH        John J., b. 1855 IND, w. Julia              children b. MO. Mary A., William, Michael, Edward              (also in household) Owen & Mary McKAY-aunt & uncle, b. IRE        Patrick, b. 1820, IRE              (also in household) dau. Maggie McCAFFERY, b. 1857, OH, widow              McCAFFERY children b. MO: Edward, Katie, Anne, Joseph        Would like to hear from you if you see a connection.  jO bANKS

Hello, Fellow Family Historians! This list has been so helpful over the past several years, I feel called upon to share a triumph! I feel as if we've filled a whole "set" that we were collecting -- Two years ago, all we knew about Dad's grandmother's family was HER name. Then we found her father -- and her mother's first name -- at St. John's Cemetery. Then we found THREE sisters, and her sisters' married surnames (still didn't know their FIRST names) in a death notice at Cleveland Public Library's Necrology Index. Then some FIRST names in Cuyahoga Counties Historic Marriage Database. (And four ways to spell WALSH -- also Welsh, and Walch, and Welch (:-) Then all four sisters and their actual wedding dates were found in a book of St. Malachi marriages at the Fairview Park Library's genealogy section. Then a LIVING McManamon 3rd cousin on the internet, Cousin Adie in Denmark (#1449 in my PAF program) -- and have most of the McManamon side from the time of the WALSH - McMANAMON marriage -- and she has some information to the 1700's. Then we found SAMMON -- via census,.and California death index, and social secutiy death index, -- and now my non-WALSH cousin has found us a SAMMON family descendent on the internet -- and gave him what we have -- but this new guy will only share his family info with actual SAMMON descendents (the last two are in their 80's, live in California, and I haven't met them yet!) -- not with us, who are collateral line only. Sigh. Still, just because he feels that way doesn't mean that we will stop sharing our historical data. And I had some inkling about the WEAVER family, because I'd actually met one of Grandma's cousins, Sadie, back in 1955 -- and I remembered she lived in Clarendon, PA -- and Dad had some memory of cousins who were adults when he was born in 1918, they lived in another state, and he didn't remember meeting them as an adult -- and recalled that two of them had played pro baseball. Names George and Harry. And he thought there were two more brothers -- Dick, for sure. Maybe Tom -- but then he laughed. (Turns out there were Tom, George, Harry -- and Donald). I monitored the RootsWeb Warren County, PA list long enough to get information on how to research in their county (NOTHING on line. Need to know death dates to get death certificates -- no blind searches. Still need to visit, check out the library now that . . . .) Back to the internet -- certainly someone has to be maintaining a database of historical baseball. And there is! Well. For a hot minute, we thought that George "Buck" Weaver, infamous accused Black Sox throw-the-world-series player was OURS. A Black Sheep of our own, I thought. But. Not. Wrong birth date (thanks to three sets of census data). And it turns out that various historians don't believe that Buck was part of it anyway -- some of them pretty passionate about it. So -- even if we could claim him, still no criteria for the Black Sheep club. Still looking -- there's a hint that two Irish ancestors who emigrated to Australia didn't go voluntarily (:-) Back to WEAVER. It took a year before the Baseball web sites locked in on Harry, who played from 1914 to 1919 -- but we got him! Stats and all. Height. Weight. Birthdate. Birthplace. RBI and the works! Then the Cleveland Catholic Diocese came through again -- a baptismal record was found for Dad's grandmother -- and listed HER mother's maiden name. HORAN. And then this week -- On the Rootsweb WEAVER list -- hurray hurray hurray -- another LIVING 3rd cousin (#2640), Harry's granddaughter! -- and we have ALL the WEAVER family from the time of the marriage to WALSH -- and some of the historic WEAVER to about 1820. Ahhhhh. That is a sigh of satisfaction. A QUICK sigh of satisfaction -- because what we found has opened a new window of research: HORAN. All we have is ONE document, handwritten, that has her name on it. Maybe it's MORAN, or HOBAN -- both names are in the family, and we've never seen HORAN before. So first we document THAT. And then . . . more research. Just knowing your great-great-grandmother's maiden name is NOT ENOUGH! Warm regards,and wishing you all good luck in filling your "sets", Karen King Hiatt Rocky River, OH (suburb of Cleveland)

I also knew a Ray Kane. I think they are somehow related to owners of the large Kane Furniture Company. This Ray Kane worked with me in Westlake Ohio and was then transferred Back to Chicago. He was in property management and perhaps investment. Alice ----- Original Message ----- From: BTapDance@aol.com To: OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 1:39 AM Subject: Re: KANE I knew a KANE family living in Amherst in the 1970s; their names were Ann & Ray Kane, do these names sound familiar? Bonnie

I am no real familiar with the family line, it is a lateral line Rose Schmitkons Kane married Joseph Kane way back in 1870 something she was sister to my gr grandmother. I do have documentation on her DC and Obit but am looking for someone familiar with the interstructure of the Kane family before I begin to connect the dots........... Marilyn

I knew a KANE family living in Amherst in the 1970s; their names were Ann & Ray Kane, do these names sound familiar? Bonnie

We lived across the street in Parma Hts. OH -- from Joe and Elsie Maher and their two daughters. In the 1950's. Mrs. Maher's younger sister Lillian lived with them for a while.

My cousins , Bernie and May Lee ( Mimi ) were from Cleveland .They would be close to 75 years old now. Their mother was Lois . I don't remember their father's name

I have KANES from the Youngstown, Ohio area. Thomas Kane married Bridget Calpin, John, Margaret and Nell were their children. I am in contact with descendants. Still looking for McDevitt, Calpin, Sunday all from Ohio early 1900/1960. -----Original Message----- From: MennoTy46@aol.com <MennoTy46@aol.com> To: OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com <OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 25 June 2003 10:10 AM Subject: Re: KANE >Does anyone have Kanes from Amherst/Elyria area > >Marilyn > >

Does anyone have Kanes from Amherst/Elyria area Marilyn

Hi, I know descendants of Michael Kane & Gertrude Hurley (Horley). Michael was son of Michael Kane & Katherine Cooney of possibly Co. Mayo, Ireland. Have you any family names? Carolyn Corcoran

IMPORTANT info for genealogists -- cost of Ohio birth & death certificates may go from $1 to $17. Your immediate action is necessary if we are to have any chance of stopping this increase. Email Governor Taft to stop the 1700% price increase for birth & death certificates. If Governor Taft signs the bill, then you should immediately contact your state senators and representatives and ask that they sponsor legislation to roll back the price increase and reinstate uncertified copies at reduced cost. I recently learned that the Ohio legislature has proposed a budget for 2002-2003 that will eliminate uncertified copies of birth and death records. If Governor Taft signs the bill as presented, you won't be able to get uncertified copies of those any more from the state or county depts of health after July 1 -- and your cost will go from $1 per uncertified copy to $17 for each certified copy -- a 1700% increase that will make the cost of genealogy research prohibitive, especially for retirees. Governor Taft has line item veto power which would enable him to veto the offending provisions of the bill -- but we must act NOW if we are to have any chance of influencing him to exercise his line item veto power. A campaign of email and phone calls should do it (letters will take to long, since Gov Taft is considering the budget now and is expecting to act on it within just a day or two). Please send Governor Taft an email -- or call his office and complain about the proposed increase. His email address and phone number are set forth below. Also below is a copy of an email I sent to the Governor this morning. You may also want to mention that many people begin researching their family histories after retirement -- but the proposed increase will make that cost prohibitive for them in particular. If just half of the subscribers to the Ohio rootsweb lists contact the Governor, we may be able to stop the increase. If you want the Governor to send you a written response, you must include your snail mail address. (I included mine.) Thanks Mick Burdge Dayton, Ohio Governors email address: Governor.Taft@das.state.oh.us His office phone numbers: (614) 466-3555 (614) 644-0957 You can find your state senators & representatives here: http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/ My email to his office this morning: Dear Governor Taft -- I am asking that you please use your line item veto, and whatever other powers you have, to remove the proposed increase in the cost of obtaining death and birth certificates -- to be specific, please remove from the proposed budget the requirement that the public can obtain such vital records only in the form of expensive certified copies. The proposal would mean that the Ohio public would have to suffer an increase from $1 to $17 per copy. It is quite ironic that in the year 2003, while Ohio purports to celebrate its bicentennial, Ohio is about to enact legislation that makes it too expensive to research part of Ohio's history. The proposed budget will eliminate uncertified copies that so many historians, genealogists, and newspaper reporters use in researching early Ohioans. Perhaps a reasonable and modest increase to $2 for uncertified copies would be appropriate; but raising the cost from $1 to $17 is outrageous. The proposed increase will make it cost prohibitive for Ohioans to conduct family and genealogical research in this state. These records, especially death certificates, are critical to doing proper research. Death certificates contain names of parents, places of birth, and other information necessary to do proper research. I understand that the Dept of Health has stated that it needs to increase the fees for such records because it does not receive enough in fees to pay for the manpower necessary to fulfill requests. In my opinion, that is a false and pretextual position -- and attempt to continue it current unreasonable restriction on access to public records. The fact is that the dept makes it virtually impossible for researchers to access the records to conduct their own research. If the dept would make the records more accessible for citizens to do their own research, the dept could avoid the high labor costs it complains about. In order to research the records a person has to make an appointment about 2-3 weeks in advance because the dept places an unreasonable restriction on the number of researchers per day. Then the dept charges just $3 for doing research for a 10-year period. No wonder the dept fees do not pay for the labor costs involved. If the dept would make the records mor! e accessible and charge an appropriate fee for doing research, it would no have to raise the raise the cost of certificates from $1 to $17. Let me give three examples that show how the proposed increase will make research cost prohibitive. (1) Last year, I prepared a family history report as a gift for an Ohio citizen that served as a pilot in both World War II and the Korean War. His ancestors were some of the first to settle in the Cincinnati area when it was then called Columbia in the Northwest Territory. One of his ancestors is mentioned in an article in the first newspaper printed in the Northwest Territory. In the course of doing that research, I had to get copies of about 30 death certificates. Insofar as the certificates were for research purposes, I did not need them to be certified and my cost was $1 per record, a total of about $30. Under the proposed budget, I would have to pay for certified copies at $17 each -- a total of $510 -- even though I did all the research to determine the precise record that I needed. There is no way I could afford to make that kind of gift. (2) This year, I made a! similar gift to another Ohio elderly Ohio citizen who served in World War II at Normandy. I had to obtain about 27 uncertified death certificates at a cost of $27. Under the proposed budget, the cost would be $459. (3) Over the last five years, in researching my own family, I have obtained approximately 300 uncertified death records. The proposed budget would make that absolutely cost prohibitive -- $5100. Also, please note that the Mormon research facilities are no substitute for public access to Ohio public records. Moreover, the Mormon library's material does NOT include Ohio birth and death records after 1908. There is nearly a 100 year gap between the info at the Mormon library and today's records. The simple fact is this -- there is no legitimate reason why researchers should not be able to do their own research, and to pay for the actual cost of obtaining copies that their own research has identified and located. Please, please -- do not eliminate uncertified copies of vital records -- and do not allow the cost of vital records to increase to $17 each. Such an increase will put an end to family and genealogical research in this state. Thanks for listening -- and I hope to read in the newspaper that you have vetoed such an increase. Michael J. Burdge

HI Maher is not my family but the name caught my eye-when I was a youngster the family next door was Jim and Sally Maher and their daughter Jane who was near my age--5. That was on E. 115 st in Cleveland in 1952 or so. That's all I know though. Alan

Luann -- Which KANE family are you? We have a Vernon R. Kane, 1916 to 1967 who married Frances Fuerst 1903 - 1979 -- and she is one of our KING - PARKER family descendents. Vernon and Frances KANE had four known children -- Janice, Kevin, Laurel and Terry. We don't know anything else about ANY of them, other than this death notice from Cleveland Public Library's historical death index: Id#: 0567807 Name: Kane, Vernon R. Date: Apr 14 1967 Source: Cleveland Press; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #122. Notes: Kane. Vernon R. Kane, beloved husband of Frances (nee Fuerst), dear father of Janice, Kevin, Laurel and Terry, dear brother of Mrs. William Larcey (Audrey) son of the late John and Coleita (nee Schoeplein) suddenly Tuesday, late residence, 7641 Ragail Pkwy. Middleburg Heights, O. Funeral Mass Friday, Apr. 14. St. Bartholomew Church at 10 A.M. The family will receive friends at The Nickels Funeral Home, 14500 Madison Ave. Thursday 2-5 And 7-10 P. M. Let us know who your parents and grandparents are, and we'll help you find your relatives. Regards, Karen King Hiatt Rocky River, OH (suburb of Cleveland) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Luann" <luannk@att.net> To: <OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 3:57 PM Subject: KANE Greetings & Salutations, Luann Kane in California here. I'm interested in contacting any living K A N E relatives in Ohio. ?? ANYBODY?? luannk@att.net

My ggmother was a Bridget Maher who married a John Crowley at St John's Cathederal in Cleveland, in 1865. A Catherine Maher married a James Downes at the Cathederal in 1864. At both weddings, one of the witnesses was a Bridget Maher - and I am guessing that woman was the mother of these two women. I know that these two women were related as the gson of Catherine was the second cousin of my gfather. At that time, Immaculate Conception had not been built and Crhistine Krosel says that weddings out of that parish could have been held at the Cathderal as it would be a nicer place. Is anyone researching any Maher lines out there that might have some helpful information? I have looked for a Bridget Maher, wife, on the 1870 census and have not found such a person yet. Also, no luck with the obits. Bill Dalton Gig Harbor, WA

Greetings & Salutations, Luann Kane in California here. I'm interested in contacting any living K A N E relatives in Ohio. ?? ANYBODY?? luannk@att.net

Thanks Lynne. I'll give it a go. Annie

Annie... Because it's a large vault maybe Calvary has records of all persons buried in it. Don't know how they categorize their files - by surnames, date of burial/death, or what. If that's the case, only Moore graves would probably be noted. You can only try. Good luck. Lynne