Thanks Pat. I'm trying to keep a record of the approx. marriage dates so there isn't so much guess work and I don't have anyone that far back yet. This will be of value if I'm tying to help someone else. Annie

Annie, I am researching two branches of Haney families trying to find a connection. I have an Owen Haney married to Sheila Cooney, probably in Ireland. Son Michael, born in Achill abt. 1845 married to Nora McManaman. Lived in Nebraska and Cleveland. I also am researching the family of Patrick Haney of Cleveland, also born between 1845-1855 in Ireland. His brief death notice has a note, "Nebraska and Kansas newspapers, please copy". Does your Owen Haney have any connections in Nebraska or Kansas? Other surnames are English, McCrann. ----- Original Message ----- From: SRXMD@aol.com Date: Saturday, July 19, 2003 12:31 pm Subject: Re: COONEY family in Cleveland in 1850s > Janet, > > Did Margaret marry Owen in Ireland or in Cleveland? The two > on the Historical Marriages site show a Vol. 0005. This site > starts in 1810. Wouldn't that vol. # have them getting married > in 1810? > > My great-grandmother, Catherine Gallagher's parents were > Owen Haney and Celia Cooney from Achill. That's all I > know about them. > > Annie > >

Thanks Janet..........that's a better index than what I was using.........Pat

Annie, Owen and Margaret were married in Cleveland on May 29, 1851 -- I have both their civil and religious marriage certificates. This site will tell you the years that correspond with the volumes of the marriage index: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~officer/CuyOhMarIndx.html Janet

Annie......On the Historical Marriages, Vol #4 & #5 are from 1838 - 1854. (Vol #1, #2 & #3 are 1810 - 1839)............Pat

Janet, Did Margaret marry Owen in Ireland or in Cleveland? The two on the Historical Marriages site show a Vol. 0005. This site starts in 1810. Wouldn't that vol. # have them getting married in 1810? My great-grandmother, Catherine Gallagher's parents were Owen Haney and Celia Cooney from Achill. That's all I know about them. Annie

I'm hoping that perhaps one of the COONEY researchers can help me out. I just learned today that my gr gr grandmother was definitely Margaret COONEY and not Margaret Burns as I had thought for more than 20 years. I'm not exactly back to square one in my research, because I had never been able to locate any information on Margaret Burns. My gr gr grandfather was Miles GOLDRICK, born in Ireland in 1833. What is most curious is that his older brother Owen, b. 1824, was also married to a woman named Margaret COONEY. They were married in St. John Cathedral on May 29, 1851. I am now wondering if perhaps the two Margarets were cousins. I do not have a marriage record for Miles GOLDRICK and Margaret COONEY. However, her name is given on the baptismal certificates for 4 of their children recently obtained from the Diocese. Margaret COONEY who married Owen GOLDRICK was also known as Maria. She was born in Ireland about 1834. Margaret COONEY who married Miles GOLDRICK was born in Ireland about 1836. That's pretty much all I know about these women ... I'm hoping someone researching COONEYs in Cleveland can help me sort them out. Thanks for any help or advice you can provide. Janet Goldrick Friend

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Hi Pat, Edward J. 47 Cousin to Edward F. 60 Do you know us? ----- Original Message ----- From: <PatPischel@aol.com> To: <OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 10:23 PM Subject: Re: O'Donnells from Achill Island > Eddie..........Are you the Eddie O'Donnell that I know?.......Pat Pischel >

Eddie, Which search sites were you wondering about? Annie

Eddie..........Are you the Eddie O'Donnell that I know?.......Pat Pischel

Annie, Thanks for the info. Thease are my kin folks. You will have to shown we how to do this. Thanks, Eddie O'Donnell Lakewood ----- Original Message ----- From: <SRXMD@aol.com> To: <OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 1:48 PM Subject: Re: O'Donnells from Achill Island > Hello Ed and all, > > Could not find Mary & Patrick, or Mary & Edward on the Marriage > Index. They didn't seem to come out of hiding until the 1930 > Census ED 108 1298 W. 28th St. > > Edward O'Donnell 51yrs Retired To US in 1900 - North Ireland > > Mary - wife - 45yrs. - To US in 1900 - North Ireland > Children: > > Julia 22yrs. > Edward 16yrs. > Anna 12yrs. > Martin 9yrs > Tillie 18yrs. > > The deaths of Edward & Mary confirm this is the right family. > I went there as it confused me that they listed ' North Ireland' as > where they lived before coming to the US. > > Only one Edward arrived in 1900 at Ellis. He was 21 yrs. & sailed on > on the Servia, June 18, 1900 Going to a cousin: Mr. Howell (?) > Detroit Ave., West Cleveland. He left ' Snowhill', which is in > Co. Fermanagh. This is Ulster, I think. > > This doesn't have to be your Edward. The age and date matched > that's all. > > There were 260 Patrick O'Donnells and 538 Mary O'Donnells. > > Here's one that may belong to one of you. > > May 11, 1901 Campania > Mary O'Donnell 21 yrs. > Left Newport > Going to cousin: Mrs. Duffy 120 E. Riverside, Cleveland, OH > > Hope this helps someone. > > Annie Drews > Strongsville, OH > > > > >

Thanks, Judith -- Several years ago, somewhere on the Cleveland News Index web page, there were actual instructions and costs for the library to make copies -- and where to send the request, to whose attention, etc. I know I'm getting older (:-) so when I couldn't find what I KNEW was there, I had to ask for help. Thanks again. Warm regards, Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith" <jrosenbe@neo.rr.com> To: <OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 7:56 AM Subject: RE: Cleveland Public Library -- copy of death notices Hello all-- Here is the URL for Cleveland Public's Necrology File. On that page, you will see a link to the Cleveland News index, to check fro deaths after 1975. The necrology file contains all of the info. For the Cleveland News Index, you will need to contact the newspaper-- very pricey-- or a library to make a copy & mail it to you. It is not available online. I am sure Cleveland Public will send it. I usually ask Cuy. County Public's Fairview Park Branch-- their regional specialty is genealogy. They used to copy & send for free. With the current budget issues, they may not be able to do that anymore, so I would suggest sending a SASE with $.25 per page to cover their costs. Necrology File Index http://dxsrv4.cpl.org/WebZ/Authorize?sessionid=0&next=/html/obit_start.html& dbchoice=1:dbname=necr&bad=html/authofail.html&style=noframe Cleveland News Index URL http://www-catalog.cpl.org/CLENIX/@COAN/a52d00006000/0 Fairview Park URL http://www.cuyahogalibrary.org/branchespages/FPR.htm Judith in OH -----Original Message----- From: karen [mailto:karen@hiattfamily.com] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 4:41 PM To: OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Cleveland Public Library -- copy of death notices I need some research tools help, please. Can someone please reply off-list and tell me how to obtain copies of death notices from the Cleveland News Index? Is there a handy on-line form nowadays? Can't find my notes from four years ago, and can't find it on the CPL site. Sigh. Thanks, Karen ______________________________

Hello Ed and all, Could not find Mary & Patrick, or Mary & Edward on the Marriage Index. They didn't seem to come out of hiding until the 1930 Census ED 108 1298 W. 28th St. Edward O'Donnell 51yrs Retired To US in 1900 - North Ireland Mary - wife - 45yrs. - To US in 1900 - North Ireland Children: Julia 22yrs. Edward 16yrs. Anna 12yrs. Martin 9yrs Tillie 18yrs. The deaths of Edward & Mary confirm this is the right family. I went there as it confused me that they listed ' North Ireland' as where they lived before coming to the US. Only one Edward arrived in 1900 at Ellis. He was 21 yrs. & sailed on on the Servia, June 18, 1900 Going to a cousin: Mr. Howell (?) Detroit Ave., West Cleveland. He left ' Snowhill', which is in Co. Fermanagh. This is Ulster, I think. This doesn't have to be your Edward. The age and date matched that's all. There were 260 Patrick O'Donnells and 538 Mary O'Donnells. Here's one that may belong to one of you. May 11, 1901 Campania Mary O'Donnell 21 yrs. Left Newport Going to cousin: Mrs. Duffy 120 E. Riverside, Cleveland, OH Hope this helps someone. Annie Drews Strongsville, OH

Hello all-- Here is the URL for Cleveland Public's Necrology File. On that page, you will see a link to the Cleveland News index, to check fro deaths after 1975. The necrology file contains all of the info. For the Cleveland News Index, you will need to contact the newspaper-- very pricey-- or a library to make a copy & mail it to you. It is not available online. I am sure Cleveland Public will send it. I usually ask Cuy. County Public's Fairview Park Branch-- their regional specialty is genealogy. They used to copy & send for free. With the current budget issues, they may not be able to do that anymore, so I would suggest sending a SASE with $.25 per page to cover their costs. Necrology File Index http://dxsrv4.cpl.org/WebZ/Authorize?sessionid=0&next=/html/obit_start.html& dbchoice=1:dbname=necr&bad=html/authofail.html&style=noframe Cleveland News Index URL http://www-catalog.cpl.org/CLENIX/@COAN/a52d00006000/0 Fairview Park URL http://www.cuyahogalibrary.org/branchespages/FPR.htm Judith in OH -----Original Message----- From: karen [mailto:karen@hiattfamily.com] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 4:41 PM To: OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Cleveland Public Library -- copy of death notices I need some research tools help, please. Can someone please reply off-list and tell me how to obtain copies of death notices from the Cleveland News Index? Is there a handy on-line form nowadays? Can't find my notes from four years ago, and can't find it on the CPL site. Sigh. Thanks, Karen ______________________________

Ed, Very possible, Catherine O'Donnell was born circa 1830 in Cloughmore and probably belonged to the Church at Kildownet. Lee Brennan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed" <ed_od_cpa@wideopenwest.com> To: <OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 10:38 PM Subject: Re: O'Donnells from Achill Island > Leonora, > > My Grandfather was born on Achill in 1868. > One of his baptism sponsor was Catherine > O'Donnell. > > Does the dates work with you? > > Thanks, > Ed > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "leeb826" <leeb826@sbcglobal.net> > To: <OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 9:57 PM > Subject: Re: O'Donnells from Achill Island > > > > Ed, > > > > I have a Catherine O'Donnell married to a Patrick Forry in Achill, > Patrick > > and Sara had a daughter Sarah who married Hugh Corrigan, their daughter > > Bridget married Patrick "Soldier" Patton, in Cleveland in 1894. Patrick > > and Bridget were my grandparents. > > Any connection? > > > > Leonora Patton Brennan > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ed" <ed_od_cpa@wideopenwest.com> > > To: <OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 4:27 PM > > Subject: RE: O'Donnells from Achill Island > > > > > > > Jerry, > > > > > > Thanks for your response. > > > > > > My Grandmother was Mary O'Donnell born in approx. 1880 in Achill > > > Island County Mayo. She was married to Patrick O'Donnell in approx. > > > 1900 in Cleveland OH. > > > > > > Her second husband was Edward J. O'Donnell married in Cleveland in > > > approx. 1904. > > > > > > All Grandparents were born in Achill, married in Cleveland. > > > > > > Where are you living now? > > > > > > Thanks cuz, > > > > > > Eddie O'Donnell > > > Cleveland OH > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Jerry O'Donnell" <jojerry@mwt.net> > > > To: <ODONNELL-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 3:51 PM > > > Subject: RE: [ODONNELL] O'Donnells from Tipperary > > > > > > > > > > I just found my Gggrandparents were both O'Donnells. I have > > > > not found any information on where they were from beyond > > > > being born in Ireland. Maybe someone out there has a > > > > connection. My Gggrandfather was Patrick O'Donnell, b about > > > > 1835. My Gggrandmother was Mary O'Donnell, born in Ireland, > > > > arrived in US in 1855 and was naturalized in 1857. They > > > > were married in October 1959 in Hazelton, PA. There must be > > > > an O'Donnell connection out there somewhere. > > > > > > > > Thank, Jerry O'Donnell > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Ed [mailto:ed_od_cpa@wideopenwest.com] > > > > Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 1:49 PM > > > > To: ODONNELL-L@rootsweb.com > > > > Subject: Re: [ODONNELL] O'Donnells from Tipperary > > > > > > > > Thanks for your reply. > > > > > > > > I agree with you!!! > > > > > > > > My Grandma was an O'Donnell who married > > > > two O'Donnells. All were born in Achill Island > > > > off Mayo and married in the USA. > > > > > > > > I believe I am related to all O'Donnells > > > > > > > > Eddie O'Donnell > > > > Cleveland Ohio > > > > USA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Lynda Tataryn" <ltataryn@moderndigital.net> > > > > To: "Ed" <ed_od_cpa@wideopenwest.com> > > > > Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 2:23 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [ODONNELL] O'Donnells from Tipperary > > > > > > > > > > > > > Life is full of surprises. I enjoy getting messages from > > > > other O'Donnells > > > > > and it's amazing there are so many of us "out there". All > > > > of my O'Donnell > > > > > forbears came from Donegal but I'm sure all the O'Donnells > > > > are related > > > > even > > > > > if they came from different parts of Ireland. Just think > > > > of the family > > > > > connections that exist today all over the place. Of > > > > course our ease of > > > > > transport has contributed to that. > > > > > > > > > > Good to talk to you, > > > > > > > > > > Lynda Tataryn > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Ed" <ed_od_cpa@wideopenwest.com> > > > > > To: <ODONNELL-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 10:37 AM > > > > > Subject: Re: [ODONNELL] O'Donnells from Tipperary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sue, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info. > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Job!! > > > > > > > > > > > > My O'Donnells are from Achill Island off the > > > > > > west coast of County Mayo. > > > > > > > > > > > > Eddie O'Donnell > > > > > > Lakewood Ohio (Cleveland) > > > > > > USA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Sue O'Donnell" <sfodonnell@humboldt1.com> > > > > > > To: <ODONNELL-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 1:39 PM > > > > > > Subject: [ODONNELL] O'Donnells from Tipperary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello list! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was forwarded this message from the Co. Tipperary > > > > list. I believe > > > > > that > > > > > > Tipperary is where my family was from. They came to the > > > > USA in the > > > > early > > > > > > 1860s - seems the names James W. O'Donnell and John T. > > > > O'Donnell were > > > > big > > > > > > with them. Women's names were Catherine, Susanna, May > > > > and Madeline. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone else? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards to all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sue O'Donnell > > > > > > > Northern California > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > X-Message: #5 > > > > > > > Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 14:24:28 -0700 > > > > > > > From: Pat Connors <nymets11@pacbell.net> > > > > > > > To: CoTipperary-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > Message-ID: <3EE3A98C.3060506@pacbell.net> > > > > > > > Subject: O'Donnells from Co. Tipperary > > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; > > > > format=flowed > > > > > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from A Biographical Dictionary of Tipperary by Martin > > > > O'Dwyer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > O'DONNELL, Denis. Reg: No. 5846. Rank: Private - > > > > Irish Guards, 2nd > > > > > > > Batt. Killed in action France, 15th September 1916. > > > > Born Co. > > > > Tipperary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > O'DONNELL, Edmond. right Rev Mons. Dean of Cashel > > > > P.P., V.G. Born: > > > > > > > Knockgraffon, Co. Tipperary, 22nd January 1882. He > > > > was ordained in > > > > > > > Maynooth on 23rd June 1907 and became Diocesan > > > > Inspector from > > > > 1909-1915. > > > > > > > He was professor in St. Patrick's College, Thurles > > > > from 1915-1922. > > > > He > > > > > > > served as curate in Golden from 1922-1926 and in > > > > Bansha from > > > > 1926-1941. > > > > > > > He worked as P.P. in Knocklong from 1941-1947 and > > > > P.P./Dean Vicar > > > > > > > General in Cashel from 1947-1962. Edmond was chosen > > > > as Vicar > > > > Capitular > > > > > > > from 1959-60. He died on 26th August 1962. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > O'DONNELL, Hugh. shanaclough, Oola. Killed in action > > > > Kilfinnane, 7th > > > > > > > December 1922. Buried Solohead, Co. Tipperary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > O'DONNELL, James Louis. The Apostle of Newfoundland. > > > > Born: > > > > > > > Knocklofty, Co. Tipperary, 1738. He left Ireland age > > > > 18 to the > > > > > > > Franciscan Convent, St. Isidore, Rome. He was later > > > > sent to Bohemia > > > > and > > > > > > > was ordained in 1770 in Prague. He came back to his > > > > native country in > > > > > > > 1775 and lived in Waterford. He was designated prior > > > > to the > > > > Franciscans > > > > > > > there in 1779 and later became provincial of the order > > > > in Ireland. > > > > > > > Primary Newfoundland merchants and their agents in > > > > Waterford selected > > > > > > > him to go to Newfoundland to work as prefect and > > > > vicar-apostolic. He > > > > > > > was the first fully accomplished Catholic priest to > > > > work there. He > > > > > > > worked tremendously hard in establishing schools and > > > > churches. He was > > > > > > > consecrated Quebec as titular bishop of Thyatira, and > > > > when he came > > > > back > > > > > > > to Newfoundland he made his first Episcopal > > > > visitation. He brought > > > > out > > > > > > > a work on diocesan statutes in 1801 and split the > > > > diocese into > > > > missions. > > > > > > > Due to the scarcity of priests, he also worked as a > > > > mission priest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He used his authority with the Catholics to control > > > > anti-government > > > > > > > feeling. In 1800 he discovered a planned mutiny among > > > > the soldiers of > > > > > > > the newfoundland regiment in St. Johns and informed > > > > Major General > > > > > > > Skerret. He was awarded a pension for life of #50 > > > > from the > > > > government. > > > > > > > The missionary work was tough and demanding and 1807 > > > > he resigned and > > > > > > > returned to Ireland. He passed his final years in > > > > Waterford as a > > > > > > > preacher. He died on 15th April 1811 in Waterford. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > O'DONNELL, John. Reg: No. 3938. Rank: Private - > > > > Royal Irish > > > > Regiment, > > > > > > > 2nd Batt. Died of wounds France, 24th May 1915. > > > > Born: Co. > > > > Tipperary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > O'DONNELL, Patrick Mary. Archbishop of Brisbane. > > > > Born: Fethard, Co. > > > > > > > Tipperary. He was one of a family of 16 children. He > > > > was reared near > > > > > > > Slievenamon and after completing school he entered the > > > > priesthood with > > > > > > > the Jesuits at Mungret. He later attended All Hallows > > > > College in > > > > > > > Dublin. Afterwards he traveled to Rome to the College > > > > of Propaganda > > > > > > > Fide. He was ordained a priest in the Basilica of St. > > > > John Lateran in > > > > > > > 1922. He returned to Ireland in the wake of the > > > > Treaty and had to > > > > make > > > > > > > the long journey to Australia. He settled in > > > > Victoria, where he was > > > > > > > priest in the diocese of Sale for 27 years. After his > > > > appointment as > > > > > > > Vicar-General, he was made Coadjutor Archbishop of > > > > Brisbane in 1949. > > > > > > > Aged 68, following the death os Archbishop Duhig he > > > > became his > > > > > > > successor. He was archbishop for eight years before > > > > his retirement. > > > > > > > Archbishop O'Donnell died in Brisbane on 2nd November > > > > 1980, aged 83. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > O'DONNELL, Richard. Reg: No. 5039. Rank: Private - > > > > Royal Irish > > > > > > > Regiment, 6th September 1916. 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Leonora, My Grandfather was born on Achill in 1868. One of his baptism sponsor was Catherine O'Donnell. Does the dates work with you? Thanks, Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: "leeb826" <leeb826@sbcglobal.net> To: <OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 9:57 PM Subject: Re: O'Donnells from Achill Island > Ed, > > I have a Catherine O'Donnell married to a Patrick Forry in Achill, Patrick > and Sara had a daughter Sarah who married Hugh Corrigan, their daughter > Bridget married Patrick "Soldier" Patton, in Cleveland in 1894. Patrick > and Bridget were my grandparents. > Any connection? > > Leonora Patton Brennan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ed" <ed_od_cpa@wideopenwest.com> > To: <OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 4:27 PM > Subject: RE: O'Donnells from Achill Island > > > > Jerry, > > > > Thanks for your response. > > > > My Grandmother was Mary O'Donnell born in approx. 1880 in Achill > > Island County Mayo. She was married to Patrick O'Donnell in approx. > > 1900 in Cleveland OH. > > > > Her second husband was Edward J. O'Donnell married in Cleveland in > > approx. 1904. > > > > All Grandparents were born in Achill, married in Cleveland. > > > > Where are you living now? > > > > Thanks cuz, > > > > Eddie O'Donnell > > Cleveland OH > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jerry O'Donnell" <jojerry@mwt.net> > > To: <ODONNELL-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 3:51 PM > > Subject: RE: [ODONNELL] O'Donnells from Tipperary > > > > > > > I just found my Gggrandparents were both O'Donnells. I have > > > not found any information on where they were from beyond > > > being born in Ireland. Maybe someone out there has a > > > connection. My Gggrandfather was Patrick O'Donnell, b about > > > 1835. My Gggrandmother was Mary O'Donnell, born in Ireland, > > > arrived in US in 1855 and was naturalized in 1857. They > > > were married in October 1959 in Hazelton, PA. There must be > > > an O'Donnell connection out there somewhere. > > > > > > Thank, Jerry O'Donnell > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Ed [mailto:ed_od_cpa@wideopenwest.com] > > > Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 1:49 PM > > > To: ODONNELL-L@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [ODONNELL] O'Donnells from Tipperary > > > > > > Thanks for your reply. > > > > > > I agree with you!!! > > > > > > My Grandma was an O'Donnell who married > > > two O'Donnells. All were born in Achill Island > > > off Mayo and married in the USA. > > > > > > I believe I am related to all O'Donnells > > > > > > Eddie O'Donnell > > > Cleveland Ohio > > > USA > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Lynda Tataryn" <ltataryn@moderndigital.net> > > > To: "Ed" <ed_od_cpa@wideopenwest.com> > > > Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 2:23 PM > > > Subject: Re: [ODONNELL] O'Donnells from Tipperary > > > > > > > > > > Life is full of surprises. I enjoy getting messages from > > > other O'Donnells > > > > and it's amazing there are so many of us "out there". All > > > of my O'Donnell > > > > forbears came from Donegal but I'm sure all the O'Donnells > > > are related > > > even > > > > if they came from different parts of Ireland. Just think > > > of the family > > > > connections that exist today all over the place. Of > > > course our ease of > > > > transport has contributed to that. > > > > > > > > Good to talk to you, > > > > > > > > Lynda Tataryn > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Ed" <ed_od_cpa@wideopenwest.com> > > > > To: <ODONNELL-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 10:37 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [ODONNELL] O'Donnells from Tipperary > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sue, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info. > > > > > > > > > > Good Job!! > > > > > > > > > > My O'Donnells are from Achill Island off the > > > > > west coast of County Mayo. > > > > > > > > > > Eddie O'Donnell > > > > > Lakewood Ohio (Cleveland) > > > > > USA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Sue O'Donnell" <sfodonnell@humboldt1.com> > > > > > To: <ODONNELL-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 1:39 PM > > > > > Subject: [ODONNELL] O'Donnells from Tipperary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello list! > > > > > > > > > > > > I was forwarded this message from the Co. Tipperary > > > list. I believe > > > > that > > > > > Tipperary is where my family was from. They came to the > > > USA in the > > > early > > > > > 1860s - seems the names James W. O'Donnell and John T. > > > O'Donnell were > > > big > > > > > with them. Women's names were Catherine, Susanna, May > > > and Madeline. > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone else? > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards to all, > > > > > > > > > > > > Sue O'Donnell > > > > > > Northern California > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > X-Message: #5 > > > > > > Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 14:24:28 -0700 > > > > > > From: Pat Connors <nymets11@pacbell.net> > > > > > > To: CoTipperary-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > Message-ID: <3EE3A98C.3060506@pacbell.net> > > > > > > Subject: O'Donnells from Co. Tipperary > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; > > > format=flowed > > > > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > > > > > > > > > > > from A Biographical Dictionary of Tipperary by Martin > > > O'Dwyer > > > > > > > > > > > > O'DONNELL, Denis. Reg: No. 5846. Rank: Private - > > > Irish Guards, 2nd > > > > > > Batt. Killed in action France, 15th September 1916. > > > Born Co. > > > Tipperary > > > > > > > > > > > > O'DONNELL, Edmond. right Rev Mons. Dean of Cashel > > > P.P., V.G. Born: > > > > > > Knockgraffon, Co. Tipperary, 22nd January 1882. He > > > was ordained in > > > > > > Maynooth on 23rd June 1907 and became Diocesan > > > Inspector from > > > 1909-1915. > > > > > > He was professor in St. Patrick's College, Thurles > > > from 1915-1922. > > > He > > > > > > served as curate in Golden from 1922-1926 and in > > > Bansha from > > > 1926-1941. > > > > > > He worked as P.P. in Knocklong from 1941-1947 and > > > P.P./Dean Vicar > > > > > > General in Cashel from 1947-1962. Edmond was chosen > > > as Vicar > > > Capitular > > > > > > from 1959-60. He died on 26th August 1962. > > > > > > > > > > > > O'DONNELL, Hugh. shanaclough, Oola. Killed in action > > > Kilfinnane, 7th > > > > > > December 1922. Buried Solohead, Co. Tipperary. > > > > > > > > > > > > O'DONNELL, James Louis. The Apostle of Newfoundland. > > > Born: > > > > > > Knocklofty, Co. Tipperary, 1738. He left Ireland age > > > 18 to the > > > > > > Franciscan Convent, St. Isidore, Rome. He was later > > > sent to Bohemia > > > and > > > > > > was ordained in 1770 in Prague. He came back to his > > > native country in > > > > > > 1775 and lived in Waterford. He was designated prior > > > to the > > > Franciscans > > > > > > there in 1779 and later became provincial of the order > > > in Ireland. > > > > > > Primary Newfoundland merchants and their agents in > > > Waterford selected > > > > > > him to go to Newfoundland to work as prefect and > > > vicar-apostolic. He > > > > > > was the first fully accomplished Catholic priest to > > > work there. He > > > > > > worked tremendously hard in establishing schools and > > > churches. He was > > > > > > consecrated Quebec as titular bishop of Thyatira, and > > > when he came > > > back > > > > > > to Newfoundland he made his first Episcopal > > > visitation. He brought > > > out > > > > > > a work on diocesan statutes in 1801 and split the > > > diocese into > > > missions. > > > > > > Due to the scarcity of priests, he also worked as a > > > mission priest. > > > > > > > > > > > > He used his authority with the Catholics to control > > > anti-government > > > > > > feeling. In 1800 he discovered a planned mutiny among > > > the soldiers of > > > > > > the newfoundland regiment in St. Johns and informed > > > Major General > > > > > > Skerret. He was awarded a pension for life of #50 > > > from the > > > government. > > > > > > The missionary work was tough and demanding and 1807 > > > he resigned and > > > > > > returned to Ireland. He passed his final years in > > > Waterford as a > > > > > > preacher. He died on 15th April 1811 in Waterford. > > > > > > > > > > > > O'DONNELL, John. Reg: No. 3938. Rank: Private - > > > Royal Irish > > > Regiment, > > > > > > 2nd Batt. Died of wounds France, 24th May 1915. > > > Born: Co. > > > Tipperary. > > > > > > > > > > > > O'DONNELL, Patrick Mary. Archbishop of Brisbane. > > > Born: Fethard, Co. > > > > > > Tipperary. He was one of a family of 16 children. He > > > was reared near > > > > > > Slievenamon and after completing school he entered the > > > priesthood with > > > > > > the Jesuits at Mungret. He later attended All Hallows > > > College in > > > > > > Dublin. Afterwards he traveled to Rome to the College > > > of Propaganda > > > > > > Fide. He was ordained a priest in the Basilica of St. > > > John Lateran in > > > > > > 1922. He returned to Ireland in the wake of the > > > Treaty and had to > > > make > > > > > > the long journey to Australia. He settled in > > > Victoria, where he was > > > > > > priest in the diocese of Sale for 27 years. After his > > > appointment as > > > > > > Vicar-General, he was made Coadjutor Archbishop of > > > Brisbane in 1949. > > > > > > Aged 68, following the death os Archbishop Duhig he > > > became his > > > > > > successor. He was archbishop for eight years before > > > his retirement. > > > > > > Archbishop O'Donnell died in Brisbane on 2nd November > > > 1980, aged 83. > > > > > > > > > > > > O'DONNELL, Richard. Reg: No. 5039. Rank: Private - > > > Royal Irish > > > > > > Regiment, 6th September 1916. Born: Ballylooby, Co. > > > Tipperary. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA > > > > > > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > > > > > > Professional Genealogy Research > > > > > > > > > > > > "Prosperity is just around the corner." - Herbert > > > Hoover > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online > > > genealogy > > > > records, > > > > > go to: > > > > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1 > > > 237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online > > > genealogy > > > records, > > > > go to: > > > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1 > > > 237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online > > > genealogy records, go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1 > > > 237 > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >

Ed, I have a Catherine O'Donnell married to a Patrick Forry in Achill, Patrick and Sara had a daughter Sarah who married Hugh Corrigan, their daughter Bridget married Patrick "Soldier" Patton, in Cleveland in 1894. Patrick and Bridget were my grandparents. Any connection? Leonora Patton Brennan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed" <ed_od_cpa@wideopenwest.com> To: <OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 4:27 PM Subject: RE: O'Donnells from Achill Island > Jerry, > > Thanks for your response. > > My Grandmother was Mary O'Donnell born in approx. 1880 in Achill > Island County Mayo. She was married to Patrick O'Donnell in approx. > 1900 in Cleveland OH. > > Her second husband was Edward J. O'Donnell married in Cleveland in > approx. 1904. > > All Grandparents were born in Achill, married in Cleveland. > > Where are you living now? > > Thanks cuz, > > Eddie O'Donnell > Cleveland OH > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jerry O'Donnell" <jojerry@mwt.net> > To: <ODONNELL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 3:51 PM > Subject: RE: [ODONNELL] O'Donnells from Tipperary > > > > I just found my Gggrandparents were both O'Donnells. I have > > not found any information on where they were from beyond > > being born in Ireland. Maybe someone out there has a > > connection. My Gggrandfather was Patrick O'Donnell, b about > > 1835. My Gggrandmother was Mary O'Donnell, born in Ireland, > > arrived in US in 1855 and was naturalized in 1857. They > > were married in October 1959 in Hazelton, PA. There must be > > an O'Donnell connection out there somewhere. > > > > Thank, Jerry O'Donnell > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ed [mailto:ed_od_cpa@wideopenwest.com] > > Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 1:49 PM > > To: ODONNELL-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [ODONNELL] O'Donnells from Tipperary > > > > Thanks for your reply. > > > > I agree with you!!! > > > > My Grandma was an O'Donnell who married > > two O'Donnells. All were born in Achill Island > > off Mayo and married in the USA. > > > > I believe I am related to all O'Donnells > > > > Eddie O'Donnell > > Cleveland Ohio > > USA > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Lynda Tataryn" <ltataryn@moderndigital.net> > > To: "Ed" <ed_od_cpa@wideopenwest.com> > > Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 2:23 PM > > Subject: Re: [ODONNELL] O'Donnells from Tipperary > > > > > > > Life is full of surprises. I enjoy getting messages from > > other O'Donnells > > > and it's amazing there are so many of us "out there". All > > of my O'Donnell > > > forbears came from Donegal but I'm sure all the O'Donnells > > are related > > even > > > if they came from different parts of Ireland. Just think > > of the family > > > connections that exist today all over the place. Of > > course our ease of > > > transport has contributed to that. > > > > > > Good to talk to you, > > > > > > Lynda Tataryn > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Ed" <ed_od_cpa@wideopenwest.com> > > > To: <ODONNELL-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 10:37 AM > > > Subject: Re: [ODONNELL] O'Donnells from Tipperary > > > > > > > > > > Sue, > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info. > > > > > > > > Good Job!! > > > > > > > > My O'Donnells are from Achill Island off the > > > > west coast of County Mayo. > > > > > > > > Eddie O'Donnell > > > > Lakewood Ohio (Cleveland) > > > > USA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Sue O'Donnell" <sfodonnell@humboldt1.com> > > > > To: <ODONNELL-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 1:39 PM > > > > Subject: [ODONNELL] O'Donnells from Tipperary > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello list! > > > > > > > > > > I was forwarded this message from the Co. Tipperary > > list. I believe > > > that > > > > Tipperary is where my family was from. They came to the > > USA in the > > early > > > > 1860s - seems the names James W. O'Donnell and John T. > > O'Donnell were > > big > > > > with them. Women's names were Catherine, Susanna, May > > and Madeline. > > > > > > > > > > Anyone else? > > > > > > > > > > Regards to all, > > > > > > > > > > Sue O'Donnell > > > > > Northern California > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > X-Message: #5 > > > > > Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 14:24:28 -0700 > > > > > From: Pat Connors <nymets11@pacbell.net> > > > > > To: CoTipperary-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > Message-ID: <3EE3A98C.3060506@pacbell.net> > > > > > Subject: O'Donnells from Co. Tipperary > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; > > format=flowed > > > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > > > > > > > > > from A Biographical Dictionary of Tipperary by Martin > > O'Dwyer > > > > > > > > > > O'DONNELL, Denis. Reg: No. 5846. Rank: Private - > > Irish Guards, 2nd > > > > > Batt. Killed in action France, 15th September 1916. > > Born Co. > > Tipperary > > > > > > > > > > O'DONNELL, Edmond. right Rev Mons. Dean of Cashel > > P.P., V.G. Born: > > > > > Knockgraffon, Co. Tipperary, 22nd January 1882. He > > was ordained in > > > > > Maynooth on 23rd June 1907 and became Diocesan > > Inspector from > > 1909-1915. > > > > > He was professor in St. Patrick's College, Thurles > > from 1915-1922. > > He > > > > > served as curate in Golden from 1922-1926 and in > > Bansha from > > 1926-1941. > > > > > He worked as P.P. in Knocklong from 1941-1947 and > > P.P./Dean Vicar > > > > > General in Cashel from 1947-1962. Edmond was chosen > > as Vicar > > Capitular > > > > > from 1959-60. He died on 26th August 1962. > > > > > > > > > > O'DONNELL, Hugh. shanaclough, Oola. Killed in action > > Kilfinnane, 7th > > > > > December 1922. Buried Solohead, Co. Tipperary. > > > > > > > > > > O'DONNELL, James Louis. The Apostle of Newfoundland. > > Born: > > > > > Knocklofty, Co. Tipperary, 1738. He left Ireland age > > 18 to the > > > > > Franciscan Convent, St. Isidore, Rome. He was later > > sent to Bohemia > > and > > > > > was ordained in 1770 in Prague. He came back to his > > native country in > > > > > 1775 and lived in Waterford. He was designated prior > > to the > > Franciscans > > > > > there in 1779 and later became provincial of the order > > in Ireland. > > > > > Primary Newfoundland merchants and their agents in > > Waterford selected > > > > > him to go to Newfoundland to work as prefect and > > vicar-apostolic. He > > > > > was the first fully accomplished Catholic priest to > > work there. He > > > > > worked tremendously hard in establishing schools and > > churches. He was > > > > > consecrated Quebec as titular bishop of Thyatira, and > > when he came > > back > > > > > to Newfoundland he made his first Episcopal > > visitation. He brought > > out > > > > > a work on diocesan statutes in 1801 and split the > > diocese into > > missions. > > > > > Due to the scarcity of priests, he also worked as a > > mission priest. > > > > > > > > > > He used his authority with the Catholics to control > > anti-government > > > > > feeling. In 1800 he discovered a planned mutiny among > > the soldiers of > > > > > the newfoundland regiment in St. Johns and informed > > Major General > > > > > Skerret. He was awarded a pension for life of #50 > > from the > > government. > > > > > The missionary work was tough and demanding and 1807 > > he resigned and > > > > > returned to Ireland. He passed his final years in > > Waterford as a > > > > > preacher. He died on 15th April 1811 in Waterford. > > > > > > > > > > O'DONNELL, John. Reg: No. 3938. Rank: Private - > > Royal Irish > > Regiment, > > > > > 2nd Batt. Died of wounds France, 24th May 1915. > > Born: Co. > > Tipperary. > > > > > > > > > > O'DONNELL, Patrick Mary. Archbishop of Brisbane. > > Born: Fethard, Co. > > > > > Tipperary. He was one of a family of 16 children. He > > was reared near > > > > > Slievenamon and after completing school he entered the > > priesthood with > > > > > the Jesuits at Mungret. He later attended All Hallows > > College in > > > > > Dublin. Afterwards he traveled to Rome to the College > > of Propaganda > > > > > Fide. He was ordained a priest in the Basilica of St. > > John Lateran in > > > > > 1922. He returned to Ireland in the wake of the > > Treaty and had to > > make > > > > > the long journey to Australia. He settled in > > Victoria, where he was > > > > > priest in the diocese of Sale for 27 years. After his > > appointment as > > > > > Vicar-General, he was made Coadjutor Archbishop of > > Brisbane in 1949. > > > > > Aged 68, following the death os Archbishop Duhig he > > became his > > > > > successor. He was archbishop for eight years before > > his retirement. > > > > > Archbishop O'Donnell died in Brisbane on 2nd November > > 1980, aged 83. > > > > > > > > > > O'DONNELL, Richard. Reg: No. 5039. Rank: Private - > > Royal Irish > > > > > Regiment, 6th September 1916. Born: Ballylooby, Co. > > Tipperary. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA > > > > > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > > > > > Professional Genealogy Research > > > > > > > > > > "Prosperity is just around the corner." - Herbert > > Hoover > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online > > genealogy > > > records, > > > > go to: > > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1 > > 237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online > > genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1 > > 237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online > > genealogy records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1 > > 237 > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I need some research tools help, please. Can someone please reply off-list and tell me how to obtain copies of death notices from the Cleveland News Index? Is there a handy on-line form nowadays? Can't find my notes from four years ago, and can't find it on the CPL site. Sigh. Thanks, Karen

Hi Karen, Thats an interesting concept, thanks for sharing that. Unfortunately my mother was a Gibbons, not my father so I don't qualify. I know there were several Gibbons families in and around the Angle at the turn of the century. Who knows, maybe some of your Gibbons' are the same as mine. I would be happy to compare notes with you, who knows. Thanks, Cliff Fortune Kansas City, MO. -----Original Message----- From: karen [mailto:karen@HiattFamily.com] Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 12:09 AM To: OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: GIBBONS family DNA testing I received an e-mail from Dennis West on the RootsWeb Gibbons list -- and he is looking for MALE participants (needs NINE of them) who are descended father-to-son in an unbroken line for several generations. (And he's not being sexist -- the genetic markers that are tested are on the Y chromosome) If you are interested, please contact him directly. We're still looking for OUR Gibbons family members -- and all known to us right now are women. It's a challenge! Warm regards, Karen ****** From: <dwest3@utk.edu> To: <GIBBONS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 7:16 PM Subject: [GIBBONS] DNA testing for genealogy Good Evening cousins: I am wondering if we have enough interest to start a GIBBONS surname DNA project. I am coordinating a DNA project for the WEST surname and would be happy to do the same for our GIBBONS surname. The test most widely used is the Y-STR (for Y chromosome, Short Tandem Repeats) which test the male chromosome. Since it uses the Y chromosome, which is passed from father to son unchanged for generations, only living males with the GIBBONS surname (or a variant spelling like GIBBINS, GIBENS, etc.) would be able to submit a DNA sample. The DNA test does NOT tell you who your ancestor was or where he originated, though there is some interesting associated information on deep ancestral origins (thousands of years ago). The value of the DNA test comes when the results from one GIBBONS male are compared with the results from another GIBBONS male. If the two samples match, then they are assured that they share a common ancestor. It would still require traditional genealogy research to find that ancestor, but each person may have information that the other did not have. The test costs $169 for a 25 marker genetic test. There is a test for $99 that test only 12 markers, but the number of false positives is too high for reliability with the smaller number of markers. The sample collection is very easy, a swab is used wipe the inside of the cheek (no blood needed). You can see photos of Bob Dorsey collecting his sample for the DORSEY DNA project at this site: http://davedorsey.com/dna.html If you do not have a living male GIBBONS in your line, you could try to find a distant male cousin descended from the same line and ask him to participate. If we can get about 10 people willing to submit a DNA sample, I will set up a surname project at Family Tree DNA http://www.familytreedna.com/ I have sample number one from one of my GIBBONS uncles, so we need nine more people. There are several webpages with excellent explanations of DNA for genealogy research, here are a few. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~allpoms/genetics.html http://blairgenealogy.com/dna/dna101.html http://www.kerchner.com/kerchdna.htm Please contact me if you or someone from your line would be willing to submit a sample. Also send me any questions you may have. Dennis West in Knoxville TN