Would you look up Patrick Harley and James Harley also Felix Hinderman(n), John Hinderman(n) and Albert Hinderman(n) Thanks in advance Terri ----- Original Message ----- From: <Greekgrandma2@aol.com> To: <OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 1:37 AM Subject: Re: Who lived there? > I have the cleveland city directory for 1867-1868 if anyone is listed in a > look up > > Christina >

I have the cleveland city directory for 1867-1868 if anyone is listed in a look up Christina

I have the Cleveland city directory for 1867-1860 0n CD-woud willing do to look ups for anyone listed. Christina

Contact the Cuyahoga County Archives. Give them the year that you are interested and the year before and ask them to check the city directory for that adderss. I am told that in some cities there was a section that had the information in terms of the address in addition to the name. The reason for the prior year is that the directory information was collected (so I am told anyway) one year and then published the next year. Bill Dalton

you should look for the 'city directory' for that period. It was like a phone book, only prior to everyone having phone's it listed people at a specific address. -- Kathy Ochs

Jo, I don't have a whole lot of information. What I do have is from a family tree done by one of Michael Haney's children. (Father)English m. (Mother) Gallagher Catherine English m. James (Dr.) McManaman Nora (Honora) McManaman m. Michael Haney March 7, 1871 in Achill Cty. Mayo. They came to Cleveland first, then moved to Nebraska where Michael died about 1925. Nora died in Cleveland, April, 1940. Hope this helps. Alice ----- Original Message ----- From: Josiebanks@aol.com Date: Thursday, July 24, 2003 10:08 am Subject: Re: McManaman IRE>OH>MO > Alice, > Do you have anything further on your Nora McManaman, b. > 1871? Such > as, her parents names, where b. in Ire, or if they emigrated & to > where? Jo > >

Hi Lists: Would anyone out there be able to tell me the names of the persons living at 2173 East 81st Street, Cleveland, Ohio in July, 1914??? OR Where should I specifically look for this info??? Thanks...Lynne

Alice, Do you have anything further on your Nora McManaman, b. 1871? Such as, her parents names, where b. in Ire, or if they emigrated & to where? Jo

Alice~ As I was explaining to Annie, I was curious about a timeline for the COONEY side which emigrated. My great gran Margaret "Peggy" (nee COONEY) FRIEL arrived in the USA in 1865. She married Henry Thomas FRIEL in Cleveland at the Cathedral in 1869. In the 1900 census her older brother Edward in mid 60s was living with them on Washington St. My mother states there was another brother John, who married a Mary FRIEL (either a cousin or sister of my g grandfathers). The John COONEY in the obits, wife Mary (nee FRIEL) just does not fit the profile. My g gran died in 1909. Since her birth was pre 1864 on Achill, I cannot locate any other data. Do not know her father's nickname or given name. Had hopes the marriage certificate would have some data as those in the marriage record from St. Patrick's Bridge Ave. However, no such luck! My Irish cousin Martin MCFADDEN, Streamstown Westport, is married to an Ann COONEY from Achill. Ann investigated for me but hers, is not the correct COONEY family. Mary Ellen Chambers

Annie~ You will do fine. All this rain, humidity, dampness, does not help the aching bones of glorious senior people! Enjoy! I was trying to place a time line on your great grandmother. My great grandmother Margaret "Peggy" (nee COONEY) FRIEL married at the Cathedral in 1869. I know she had an older brother Edward who was in his mid 60s in the 1900 census and was living with my g grandparents on Washington St. Mother states there was a brother John who married a Mary FRIEL who was a cousin or sister to g grandfather. The John COONEY in the obits with a Mary FRIEL as his wife does not quite fit. (Can't remember why). There could have been sisters as siblings who emigrated too. My g gran was from Achill. My problem is she was born pre 1864 and don't know her father's nickname or even given name. I do know that both g grandparents were bilingual as was my grandfather. My Gran from Westport area could only say her prayers in the Irish. I only wish I had known or paid attention when I was a child to the language. There were various phrases dropped in passing but those long hours I spent with him, I could have learned. He was a great gentleman and we were very close. He died suddenly in 1946 when I was 9. How is your son doing? You both are in my thoughts and prayers. Mary Ellen

Mary Ellen, I have Owen Haney married to Sheila Cooney. I don't have a marriage date for them. A son, Michael Haney, was born between 1845-1850. He married Nora McManaman March 7, 1871 in Ireland. Michael & Nora's children: Joseph, James, Margaret, Owen T., Michael, Francis, Mary, Catherine, John. Alice ----- Original Message ----- From: Maryln61@aol.com Date: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 12:53 pm Subject: Re: COONEY family in Cleveland in 1850s > Annie~ > What was the marriage date for Owen Haney and Celia Cooney? > > Mary Ellen > >

Dear Mary Ellen, I think that one is from Alice. I don't have her e-mail handy. I haven't gotten that far back yet. My mother's info is iffy. She said that Martin Gallagher's mother had a sister, Celia Haney who MAY have married a Patton. Our great grandmother, Catherine Gallagher's parents were Owen Haney & Catherine Cooney. That much is correct from Catherine Gallagher's death certificate. Leaving on vacation tomarrow the 23rd. Pray that I can ignore the darn bones and be Miss Charm for my guys. Annie

Annie~ What was the marriage date for Owen Haney and Celia Cooney? Mary Ellen

Hi Annie,        I too am researching McMANAMANs.  Mainly Thomas b. abt. 1837, IRE.         Wife was Anna MURPHY, b. Jun. 1837-1840, IRE.         Her father was John MURPHY & mother Mary mother GALLAGHER.         Her sister was Catherine (McGINTY) and brother was John MURPHY.        The MURPHY siblings were b. in Newport, Burrishoole, Co. Mayo.        They wed in Cleveland on Dec. 23, 1856.         Children were all b. Cleveland from 1857-1877.         Their names were: Mary Ann (John B. McCARTY), m. bet. Jan 1876-Aug 1877, Cleveland        Patrick, never married        Margaret "Maggie" (EMBERTON),        Catherine "Katie" (MORAN),        Ellen "Ella Rose" (HALLIBURTON),          John, b. 1872-d. 1873,        Anna (ARNOLD).        The family moved to Milan, Sullivan Co., MO shortly after Anna's birth.        A Michael McMANAMAN was both a witness at their wedding and a Baptismal sponsor for the oldest child in Sept. 1857.  Other sponsors surnames were: KERINS, GALLAGHER, (John and Catherine), FERGUS, SLEVIN, KERNS, and GAVIN.        What McManamans do you have?   Jo Banks

Dear Alice, Yours was the first e-mail I opened about 8:30am. Since then, I have been searching through these stacks of research. I went looking for that tattered legal pad sheet that I wrote the family info on when my mother was in a talkative mood. I'm betting we all have one that started us on our quest. As you can see it's 5hrs. later. At least I've done a lot of filing, but no raggedy yellowed sheet yet. I will find it, but in the meantime, the church I was going to write to was St. Joseph's in Bunnacurry, Achill. Then I ran across a 2002 note from Lee Brennan (leeb826@ameritech.net), advising us that most of the records are kept at Mary Immaculate Church on Achill Island. I've spent some time now looking for that church and the name of a priest, but no go. Maybe someone can help us out. Annie

Annie, Have you had success writing to Achill churches? Are you willing to share the addresses with me? I also have Kilbanes, O'Malleys, McGlynns, Hopkins and more. Alice ----- Original Message ----- From: SRXMD@aol.com Date: Saturday, July 19, 2003 7:59 pm Subject: Re: Owen Haney > Dear Alice, > > There's got to be something here. Also have McManaman > and English. These folks would be younger. In 1910 > most of them would have been 20 to 30 yrs. old. that > would give about the approx. birth years 1880 to 1890. > I'll be writing to a couple Achill churches for info. > > Annie > >

Dear Alice, There's got to be something here. Also have McManaman and English. These folks would be younger. In 1910 most of them would have been 20 to 30 yrs. old. that would give about the approx. birth years 1880 to 1890. I'll be writing to a couple Achill churches for info. Annie

I got so excited when I found the website you sent that off my note went without a message. This is what a lameo I am. I've been jotting down every marriage date and Vol. # that I sure of and then putting them on index cards. Thank you so much. Annie

Janet,

Thanks Janet. Pat just helped me out with that. I've jotted it down on the marriage index cards. Annie