Looking for BAXTER, McCOLLUM (Collum) and LITTLE families from C. Fermanagh. Barbara

Thomas F. Patton, age 97, former Republic Steel chief's obituary in Plain Dealer. Father from County Mayo. Ingrid Abram Bay Village, Ohio

looking for information on James A Smith born in 1846 in Ireland and died 21 Sep 1890 in Cleveland. on 27 May 1872 he married Margaret Cunningham. She was born in Ireland on 17 May 1851 and died in Columbus (franklin Co) on 10 April 1936 Both are buried in Cleveland (James A at St Joseph's Cemetary... Margaret Cunningham may be at the same location) they apparently had 9 children... one of which was Rose C. Smith (my grandmother) who married Clarence E. Harding of Akron and later moved to Columbus (and her mother came to live with her when she was widowed, raised her children while she went to work) all that said... I think that James A and Margaret Cunningham each migrated from Ireland via Canada to get to Cleveland ...but heaven knows I can't prove anything... really would appreciate any information you all might be able to give me about these two -- and/or sources I could go to to find more... Thanks in Advance Bunnie Smith

First and Last Seasons, A father, a Son and Sunday Afternoon Football by Dan McGraw Suggest this book for football fans and all who would like to read the candor of a son of a Cleveland Irish lawyer about Cleveland football and its fans, Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, growing up here, etc. Ingrid Abram Bay Village, Ohio

Hi Kelly, Thank you very much for your efforts. The Weed entries can definitely be eliminated. I have no James J. Egan in my records. I have a Michael James Egan but I have his movements well tracked until he died. He only lived in Massachusetts and California. I have two Alice Egans in my Co. Sligo, Ireland database so I may check out the Alice M. Egan you found. I should definitely check out the Sophia Miller. Miller is a quite common name, but Sophia isn't. It may be just a coincidence but the Marriage Certificate will determine if that is the case. I know the Vital Record Index is not always inclusive. Previously, I have found relations in the records that did not appear in the Index. It is possible that Sophia Miller was included in the Index and Joseph Henry was not. Thank you again for your help. It is greatly appreciated. Best Regards, Joe Thomas Whitelock wrote: > > Dear Joseph: > > Well, I really wish that I had good news for you! I don't have the best > news but I do have something. > I searched the Marriage Index for Cuyahoga Counties Marriage Index for > 1906-1910. I found a Sophia Miller Vol. 70 Pg. 287 > Alice M Egan Vol. 71 Pg. 264 > Leo R. Weed Vol. 71 Pg. 128 > Helen Pauline Weed Vol. 71 Pg. 445 > James J. Egan Vol. 74 Pg. 8 > Florence Weede Vol. 75 Pg. 171 > > I looked for any Egan's, Weeds, and Sophia Miller's. This was all that I > came up with. Teh 2 Egan's, I thought were a good possibility but the > Sophia Miller, I don't know. In that Vol. I didn't find any Egans!?!? > I really wished that I found more for you. Please let me know if you have > any other ideas. Maybe I'll find something else!? > Please take care and God bless. Let me know if there's anything that I can > do to help! > > Kelly > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joseph R. Egan [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2000 08:22 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Genealogy/city directory questions > > Hi Kelly, > > I just returned from vacation and saw your very kind offer of a > Cleveland Marriage Index look-up. > > If you have time, could you please check on the Cleveland > marriage of Sophia C. Miller to a Joseph Henry Egan in the 1906-1907 > time frame? > > Sophia was married once previously. Could you also check for the same > marriage under the name of Sophia Weed? > > Many thanks. > > Joe Egan > San Diego, CA > > Thomas Whitelock wrote: > > > > The Family History Centers for the Church of Jesus Christ of > Latter-Day > > Saints (Mormons) has some computer and resource records that are not > > available on the internet. Namely, there are the military records on > > cd-rom, 100% of the International Genealogical Index (I.G.I.) on cd-rom, > and > > other discs that the FHC might have according to what their budget is and > > the demand from patrons. All FHC's have a variety of books, microfiche, > and > > microfilms depending on what has been donated to them and what they have > > room for. At our FHC (I work there every Wed. from 1 to 5 pm) in Tampa, > > Florida at 4106 E. Fletcher Ave (813-971-2869) across from the University > of > > South Florida, we're blessed to have a lot of information and a good size > > library. We have a lot of info. on the southern states and a smathering > of > > info. on other states throughout the U.S. and world. Please check out our > > church website at > www.familysearch.com/Eng/Library/FHL/frameset_library.asp > > for the FHC info. in your area. There is a search screen for you to look > it > > up. > > > > The best part is that you can order Microfilm for $3.25 for the > first 30 > > days, plus $3.25 for an additional 60 days and then for a final $3.25 it > is > > on indefinite loan at your FHC for yours and others use, permanently. > > Microfiche is on indefinite/permanent loan with your original order, you > > don't have to renew and it doesn't have to be sent back. The prices for > the > > Microfiche vary and the FHC can give you the fees based on the bundle of > > fiche in a packet. Please ask the library volunteer to check the computer > > before you order any films. Sometimes a film is in the center and they > may > > not have it listed. Now, the price of the Microfilm order may vary > > throughout the world. I don't know if this is the standard rate or if it > > vary's by area and postage as well. Please don't hold me to those prices, > > that is what they are in Tampa, Fl presently! > > > > Also, FYI, I have ordered the marriage index for Cuyahoga County, > Ohio on > > film for indefinite/permanent loan. I have the years of 1906 through, I > > believe, 1916. I'll have to double check. If you would like me to do a > > "free-look up" on a name, on the index, I would be happy to help you when > I > > have the time to do so. I need the 1) THE FULL NAME OF THE **WOMAN** > > (**MAIDEN NAME**) AND MAN, AND 2) THE APPROXIMATE YEAR OF MARRIAGE, please > > narrow it down to one or two years if possible. The index gives the > Volume > > Number of the book of record and the number of their marriage. This > > provides a much easier way to search for the actual record on microfilm > > and/or order the certificate from Vital Records. Please be patient > though, > > it may take me some time to look them up for you. I will do my best to > work > > in a timely manner. > > Take care and God bless. I hope that this gives you some info. on > the > > FHC's. After you've exhausted the internet, that's when the real digging > > comes in and you need to order films and fiche for more information. > Please > > let me know if I can help you! Keep up the good work! > > > > Kelly Whitelock > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 8:44 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: Genealogy/city directory questions > > > > I have never been to and LDS center, what types of information are at the > > sub > > stations, that are not on line? > > > > HAPPY HUNTING! > > > > Susan PI WARD > > Searching > > BEUCUS, CASPERSON, MICHEL, RETTBERG, WARD

Dear Joseph: Well, I really wish that I had good news for you! I don't have the best news but I do have something. I searched the Marriage Index for Cuyahoga Counties Marriage Index for 1906-1910. I found a Sophia Miller Vol. 70 Pg. 287 Alice M Egan Vol. 71 Pg. 264 Leo R. Weed Vol. 71 Pg. 128 Helen Pauline Weed Vol. 71 Pg. 445 James J. Egan Vol. 74 Pg. 8 Florence Weede Vol. 75 Pg. 171 I looked for any Egan's, Weeds, and Sophia Miller's. This was all that I came up with. Teh 2 Egan's, I thought were a good possibility but the Sophia Miller, I don't know. In that Vol. I didn't find any Egans!?!? I really wished that I found more for you. Please let me know if you have any other ideas. Maybe I'll find something else!? Please take care and God bless. Let me know if there's anything that I can do to help! Kelly -----Original Message----- From: Joseph R. Egan [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2000 08:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Genealogy/city directory questions Hi Kelly, I just returned from vacation and saw your very kind offer of a Cleveland Marriage Index look-up. If you have time, could you please check on the Cleveland marriage of Sophia C. Miller to a Joseph Henry Egan in the 1906-1907 time frame? Sophia was married once previously. Could you also check for the same marriage under the name of Sophia Weed? Many thanks. Joe Egan San Diego, CA Thomas Whitelock wrote: > > The Family History Centers for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day > Saints (Mormons) has some computer and resource records that are not > available on the internet. Namely, there are the military records on > cd-rom, 100% of the International Genealogical Index (I.G.I.) on cd-rom, and > other discs that the FHC might have according to what their budget is and > the demand from patrons. All FHC's have a variety of books, microfiche, and > microfilms depending on what has been donated to them and what they have > room for. At our FHC (I work there every Wed. from 1 to 5 pm) in Tampa, > Florida at 4106 E. Fletcher Ave (813-971-2869) across from the University of > South Florida, we're blessed to have a lot of information and a good size > library. We have a lot of info. on the southern states and a smathering of > info. on other states throughout the U.S. and world. Please check out our > church website at www.familysearch.com/Eng/Library/FHL/frameset_library.asp > for the FHC info. in your area. There is a search screen for you to look it > up. > > The best part is that you can order Microfilm for $3.25 for the first 30 > days, plus $3.25 for an additional 60 days and then for a final $3.25 it is > on indefinite loan at your FHC for yours and others use, permanently. > Microfiche is on indefinite/permanent loan with your original order, you > don't have to renew and it doesn't have to be sent back. The prices for the > Microfiche vary and the FHC can give you the fees based on the bundle of > fiche in a packet. Please ask the library volunteer to check the computer > before you order any films. Sometimes a film is in the center and they may > not have it listed. Now, the price of the Microfilm order may vary > throughout the world. I don't know if this is the standard rate or if it > vary's by area and postage as well. Please don't hold me to those prices, > that is what they are in Tampa, Fl presently! > > Also, FYI, I have ordered the marriage index for Cuyahoga County, Ohio on > film for indefinite/permanent loan. I have the years of 1906 through, I > believe, 1916. I'll have to double check. If you would like me to do a > "free-look up" on a name, on the index, I would be happy to help you when I > have the time to do so. I need the 1) THE FULL NAME OF THE **WOMAN** > (**MAIDEN NAME**) AND MAN, AND 2) THE APPROXIMATE YEAR OF MARRIAGE, please > narrow it down to one or two years if possible. The index gives the Volume > Number of the book of record and the number of their marriage. This > provides a much easier way to search for the actual record on microfilm > and/or order the certificate from Vital Records. Please be patient though, > it may take me some time to look them up for you. I will do my best to work > in a timely manner. > Take care and God bless. I hope that this gives you some info. on the > FHC's. After you've exhausted the internet, that's when the real digging > comes in and you need to order films and fiche for more information. Please > let me know if I can help you! Keep up the good work! > > Kelly Whitelock > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 8:44 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Genealogy/city directory questions > > I have never been to and LDS center, what types of information are at the > sub > stations, that are not on line? > > HAPPY HUNTING! > > Susan PI WARD > Searching > BEUCUS, CASPERSON, MICHEL, RETTBERG, WARD

Thank you so much on behalf of all Cuyahoga County researchers. > Ingrid, just wanted you to know am sending this today. Thank you so much > for your help. Carole > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ingrid Abram" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 6:01 AM > Subject: Re: CAGG Preservation Fund > > > > The check should be made out to CAGG-Preservation Fund or they can be > > made out to CAGG with Preservation Fund written in the Memo section. > > Then we can send the person a letter thanking them for their gift so that > > they can have a tax deduction it the wish to. > > > > Checks can be sent to: ATTN: Judy Cetina > > Cuyahoga County Archives > > 2905 Franklin Boulevard > > Cleveland, OH 44113 > > > > Thank you so much for helping preserve history and the vital records > > of Cuyahoga County. > > > > > > Ingrid Abram > > Bay Village, Ohio > > > > > > > > Subject: CAGG Preservation Fund > > > > > > > Where do we send a donation? To anyone's attention? > > > > > > Alice > > > > > > > >

Ingrid, just wanted you to know am sending this today. Thank you so much for your help. Carole ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ingrid Abram" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 6:01 AM Subject: Re: CAGG Preservation Fund > The check should be made out to CAGG-Preservation Fund or they can be > made out to CAGG with Preservation Fund written in the Memo section. > Then we can send the person a letter thanking them for their gift so that > they can have a tax deduction it the wish to. > > Checks can be sent to: ATTN: Judy Cetina > Cuyahoga County Archives > 2905 Franklin Boulevard > Cleveland, OH 44113 > > Thank you so much for helping preserve history and the vital records > of Cuyahoga County. > > > Ingrid Abram > Bay Village, Ohio > > > > Subject: CAGG Preservation Fund > > > > Where do we send a donation? To anyone's attention? > > > > Alice > > >

Hi Kelly, Thank you very much. I appreciate your efforts. You can disregard the Sophia Weed look-up. This morning I was able to eliminate Weed as a posibility. Hopefully, the Sophia Miller - Joseph Henry Egan marriage will be there. Have a great Thanksgiving. Regards, Joe Thomas Whitelock wrote: > > Hi Joseph! > > Sure, I'll look it up for you. I'll have it for you a week from tomorrow > at the latest. I don't work in the library tomorrow because of the holiday > but I may go over sooner. I have a key so I might pop in and take a look. > I know it's pretty exciting when you might have a lead. I love to help! > I'll email you soon! Take care, God bless and have a very happy Turkey day! > > Kelly > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joseph R. Egan [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2000 8:22 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Genealogy/city directory questions > > Hi Kelly, > > I just returned from vacation and saw your very kind offer of a > Cleveland Marriage Index look-up. > > If you have time, could you please check on the Cleveland > marriage of Sophia C. Miller to a Joseph Henry Egan in the 1906-1907 > time frame? > > Sophia was married once previously. Could you also check for the same > marriage under the name of Sophia Weed? > > Many thanks. > > Joe Egan > San Diego, CA > > Thomas Whitelock wrote: > > > > The Family History Centers for the Church of Jesus Christ of > Latter-Day > > Saints (Mormons) has some computer and resource records that are not > > available on the internet. Namely, there are the military records on > > cd-rom, 100% of the International Genealogical Index (I.G.I.) on cd-rom, > and > > other discs that the FHC might have according to what their budget is and > > the demand from patrons. All FHC's have a variety of books, microfiche, > and > > microfilms depending on what has been donated to them and what they have > > room for. At our FHC (I work there every Wed. from 1 to 5 pm) in Tampa, > > Florida at 4106 E. Fletcher Ave (813-971-2869) across from the University > of > > South Florida, we're blessed to have a lot of information and a good size > > library. We have a lot of info. on the southern states and a smathering > of > > info. on other states throughout the U.S. and world. Please check out our > > church website at > www.familysearch.com/Eng/Library/FHL/frameset_library.asp > > for the FHC info. in your area. There is a search screen for you to look > it > > up. > > > > The best part is that you can order Microfilm for $3.25 for the > first 30 > > days, plus $3.25 for an additional 60 days and then for a final $3.25 it > is > > on indefinite loan at your FHC for yours and others use, permanently. > > Microfiche is on indefinite/permanent loan with your original order, you > > don't have to renew and it doesn't have to be sent back. The prices for > the > > Microfiche vary and the FHC can give you the fees based on the bundle of > > fiche in a packet. Please ask the library volunteer to check the computer > > before you order any films. Sometimes a film is in the center and they > may > > not have it listed. Now, the price of the Microfilm order may vary > > throughout the world. I don't know if this is the standard rate or if it > > vary's by area and postage as well. Please don't hold me to those prices, > > that is what they are in Tampa, Fl presently! > > > > Also, FYI, I have ordered the marriage index for Cuyahoga County, > Ohio on > > film for indefinite/permanent loan. I have the years of 1906 through, I > > believe, 1916. I'll have to double check. If you would like me to do a > > "free-look up" on a name, on the index, I would be happy to help you when > I > > have the time to do so. I need the 1) THE FULL NAME OF THE **WOMAN** > > (**MAIDEN NAME**) AND MAN, AND 2) THE APPROXIMATE YEAR OF MARRIAGE, please > > narrow it down to one or two years if possible. The index gives the > Volume > > Number of the book of record and the number of their marriage. This > > provides a much easier way to search for the actual record on microfilm > > and/or order the certificate from Vital Records. Please be patient > though, > > it may take me some time to look them up for you. I will do my best to > work > > in a timely manner. > > Take care and God bless. I hope that this gives you some info. on > the > > FHC's. After you've exhausted the internet, that's when the real digging > > comes in and you need to order films and fiche for more information. > Please > > let me know if I can help you! Keep up the good work! > > > > Kelly Whitelock > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 8:44 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: Genealogy/city directory questions > > > > I have never been to and LDS center, what types of information are at the > > sub > > stations, that are not on line? > > > > HAPPY HUNTING! > > > > Susan PI WARD > > Searching > > BEUCUS, CASPERSON, MICHEL, RETTBERG, WARD

Hi Joseph! Sure, I'll look it up for you. I'll have it for you a week from tomorrow at the latest. I don't work in the library tomorrow because of the holiday but I may go over sooner. I have a key so I might pop in and take a look. I know it's pretty exciting when you might have a lead. I love to help! I'll email you soon! Take care, God bless and have a very happy Turkey day! Kelly -----Original Message----- From: Joseph R. Egan [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2000 8:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Genealogy/city directory questions Hi Kelly, I just returned from vacation and saw your very kind offer of a Cleveland Marriage Index look-up. If you have time, could you please check on the Cleveland marriage of Sophia C. Miller to a Joseph Henry Egan in the 1906-1907 time frame? Sophia was married once previously. Could you also check for the same marriage under the name of Sophia Weed? Many thanks. Joe Egan San Diego, CA Thomas Whitelock wrote: > > The Family History Centers for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day > Saints (Mormons) has some computer and resource records that are not > available on the internet. Namely, there are the military records on > cd-rom, 100% of the International Genealogical Index (I.G.I.) on cd-rom, and > other discs that the FHC might have according to what their budget is and > the demand from patrons. All FHC's have a variety of books, microfiche, and > microfilms depending on what has been donated to them and what they have > room for. At our FHC (I work there every Wed. from 1 to 5 pm) in Tampa, > Florida at 4106 E. Fletcher Ave (813-971-2869) across from the University of > South Florida, we're blessed to have a lot of information and a good size > library. We have a lot of info. on the southern states and a smathering of > info. on other states throughout the U.S. and world. Please check out our > church website at www.familysearch.com/Eng/Library/FHL/frameset_library.asp > for the FHC info. in your area. There is a search screen for you to look it > up. > > The best part is that you can order Microfilm for $3.25 for the first 30 > days, plus $3.25 for an additional 60 days and then for a final $3.25 it is > on indefinite loan at your FHC for yours and others use, permanently. > Microfiche is on indefinite/permanent loan with your original order, you > don't have to renew and it doesn't have to be sent back. The prices for the > Microfiche vary and the FHC can give you the fees based on the bundle of > fiche in a packet. Please ask the library volunteer to check the computer > before you order any films. Sometimes a film is in the center and they may > not have it listed. Now, the price of the Microfilm order may vary > throughout the world. I don't know if this is the standard rate or if it > vary's by area and postage as well. Please don't hold me to those prices, > that is what they are in Tampa, Fl presently! > > Also, FYI, I have ordered the marriage index for Cuyahoga County, Ohio on > film for indefinite/permanent loan. I have the years of 1906 through, I > believe, 1916. I'll have to double check. If you would like me to do a > "free-look up" on a name, on the index, I would be happy to help you when I > have the time to do so. I need the 1) THE FULL NAME OF THE **WOMAN** > (**MAIDEN NAME**) AND MAN, AND 2) THE APPROXIMATE YEAR OF MARRIAGE, please > narrow it down to one or two years if possible. The index gives the Volume > Number of the book of record and the number of their marriage. This > provides a much easier way to search for the actual record on microfilm > and/or order the certificate from Vital Records. Please be patient though, > it may take me some time to look them up for you. I will do my best to work > in a timely manner. > Take care and God bless. I hope that this gives you some info. on the > FHC's. After you've exhausted the internet, that's when the real digging > comes in and you need to order films and fiche for more information. Please > let me know if I can help you! Keep up the good work! > > Kelly Whitelock > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 8:44 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Genealogy/city directory questions > > I have never been to and LDS center, what types of information are at the > sub > stations, that are not on line? > > HAPPY HUNTING! > > Susan PI WARD > Searching > BEUCUS, CASPERSON, MICHEL, RETTBERG, WARD

Sorry, no I am searching for a birth record of a child born in early 1944 of a Collins /Starcher relationship. I don't know if they were actually married but the child was later adopted. My Collins line goes back to Meredith "Meridia" Collins of Pike Co. KY. Brenda

Hi Kelly, I just returned from vacation and saw your very kind offer of a Cleveland Marriage Index look-up. If you have time, could you please check on the Cleveland marriage of Sophia C. Miller to a Joseph Henry Egan in the 1906-1907 time frame? Sophia was married once previously. Could you also check for the same marriage under the name of Sophia Weed? Many thanks. Joe Egan San Diego, CA Thomas Whitelock wrote: > > The Family History Centers for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day > Saints (Mormons) has some computer and resource records that are not > available on the internet. Namely, there are the military records on > cd-rom, 100% of the International Genealogical Index (I.G.I.) on cd-rom, and > other discs that the FHC might have according to what their budget is and > the demand from patrons. All FHC's have a variety of books, microfiche, and > microfilms depending on what has been donated to them and what they have > room for. At our FHC (I work there every Wed. from 1 to 5 pm) in Tampa, > Florida at 4106 E. Fletcher Ave (813-971-2869) across from the University of > South Florida, we're blessed to have a lot of information and a good size > library. We have a lot of info. on the southern states and a smathering of > info. on other states throughout the U.S. and world. Please check out our > church website at www.familysearch.com/Eng/Library/FHL/frameset_library.asp > for the FHC info. in your area. There is a search screen for you to look it > up. > > The best part is that you can order Microfilm for $3.25 for the first 30 > days, plus $3.25 for an additional 60 days and then for a final $3.25 it is > on indefinite loan at your FHC for yours and others use, permanently. > Microfiche is on indefinite/permanent loan with your original order, you > don't have to renew and it doesn't have to be sent back. The prices for the > Microfiche vary and the FHC can give you the fees based on the bundle of > fiche in a packet. Please ask the library volunteer to check the computer > before you order any films. Sometimes a film is in the center and they may > not have it listed. Now, the price of the Microfilm order may vary > throughout the world. I don't know if this is the standard rate or if it > vary's by area and postage as well. Please don't hold me to those prices, > that is what they are in Tampa, Fl presently! > > Also, FYI, I have ordered the marriage index for Cuyahoga County, Ohio on > film for indefinite/permanent loan. I have the years of 1906 through, I > believe, 1916. I'll have to double check. If you would like me to do a > "free-look up" on a name, on the index, I would be happy to help you when I > have the time to do so. I need the 1) THE FULL NAME OF THE **WOMAN** > (**MAIDEN NAME**) AND MAN, AND 2) THE APPROXIMATE YEAR OF MARRIAGE, please > narrow it down to one or two years if possible. The index gives the Volume > Number of the book of record and the number of their marriage. This > provides a much easier way to search for the actual record on microfilm > and/or order the certificate from Vital Records. Please be patient though, > it may take me some time to look them up for you. I will do my best to work > in a timely manner. > Take care and God bless. I hope that this gives you some info. on the > FHC's. After you've exhausted the internet, that's when the real digging > comes in and you need to order films and fiche for more information. Please > let me know if I can help you! Keep up the good work! > > Kelly Whitelock > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 8:44 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Genealogy/city directory questions > > I have never been to and LDS center, what types of information are at the > sub > stations, that are not on line? > > HAPPY HUNTING! > > Susan PI WARD > Searching > BEUCUS, CASPERSON, MICHEL, RETTBERG, WARD

Hi Brenda, I assume you found the message I posted on the Cleveland Irish website. I have not been able to trace the families mentioned except for Edward H. Collins. The other brothers and sisters are still missing. I live in the Dayton, Ohio area and have not made a trip to Cleveland yet. I am primarily working off records in Columbus at the Ohio Historical Society. They have the Ohio death certificate index from 1912 through 1938 on-line. If you live in Ohio they can loan microfilm to must public libraries in the state for a modest fee. Check their online catalog. The only death that I know of at that time would be my grandmother in 1943. There were only two children in the family, my father and my aunt. The great grand father and his wife and children are all researched and documented within the family. The great great grandfather was James Collins and his wife was Bridget (possibly a second wife). They moved to Cleveland in 1866 or 67 from West Virginia according to data that we have found. There were 4 boys and 2 girls in the family and I have only found documentation on the third son, Edward who was my gggrand father. Hope this helps. If you find information leading back to other members in the Collins family I would appreciate hearing from you again. I will send a copy of the original posting just incase you haven't seen it. Ed Collins -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, November 19, 2000 10:00 AM Subject: new to list >I am new to list and would like to find somebody who might have access to >courthouse records. I am looking for the surnames COLLINS and STARCHER >1943-44. If you think you could help me please email me privatly. > >Brenda Collins Dillon > >

I am new to list and would like to find somebody who might have access to courthouse records. I am looking for the surnames COLLINS and STARCHER 1943-44. If you think you could help me please email me privatly. Brenda Collins Dillon

Very good points to make! Thanks. Carole ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 12:05 PM Subject: Re: OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-D Digest V00 #151 > Hello all. > > I must second what Carole has said. Although the LDS has parish records for > all of SCotland, I am now going through, frame by frame, the marriage > records. They are much more detailed, since they provide the occupation of > the groom and the bride's husband; also their place of residence, which is > not always in the area where they were married. It allows enough detail to > sometimes verify that it is or is not your person. Another example-- I went > through the parish registers for a (thankfully) small British village. One > TANNER family in the whole place. But there was a gap of 20 years before > the name reappeared, with no marriages of the first set and the one son had > died. The 2nd TANNER set, post gap, had a son born elsehwere. When I > looked at THAT film, I found his mother was the unwed daughter of the > TANNERS in Tadley!! If I had not done that tedious work, I would never have > been able to make the connection. Take the time, & do it yourself--- many > IGI entries are dates/locations with @-- this means the researcher could not > find evidence to prove it and made an assumption. The IGI might get you > going in the right direction, but it is only as good as the researcher for > that particluar entry. > > Many of us online folks can offer help, advice, contacts, and the occasional > lookup. Rootsweb volunteers are putting copies of original materials > online-- plus transcriptions. But again, with a transcription, be careful. > SOmeone may have made a typo. Another TANNER example-- I had burial dates > from the parish record (original on film) for the son who died. I then > borrowed the cemetery inscription records. There I found a transcription > with a male TANNER I was unaware of, buried adjacent to the family > patriarch. When I looked through my material again, I realized that this > was the son who died young, but one number had been transposed. So > research, and have fun! If nothing else, it teaches you patience and > perseverance! > > Judith in OH > > >

Hello all. I must second what Carole has said. Although the LDS has parish records for all of SCotland, I am now going through, frame by frame, the marriage records. They are much more detailed, since they provide the occupation of the groom and the bride's husband; also their place of residence, which is not always in the area where they were married. It allows enough detail to sometimes verify that it is or is not your person. Another example-- I went through the parish registers for a (thankfully) small British village. One TANNER family in the whole place. But there was a gap of 20 years before the name reappeared, with no marriages of the first set and the one son had died. The 2nd TANNER set, post gap, had a son born elsehwere. When I looked at THAT film, I found his mother was the unwed daughter of the TANNERS in Tadley!! If I had not done that tedious work, I would never have been able to make the connection. Take the time, & do it yourself--- many IGI entries are dates/locations with @-- this means the researcher could not find evidence to prove it and made an assumption. The IGI might get you going in the right direction, but it is only as good as the researcher for that particluar entry. Many of us online folks can offer help, advice, contacts, and the occasional lookup. Rootsweb volunteers are putting copies of original materials online-- plus transcriptions. But again, with a transcription, be careful. SOmeone may have made a typo. Another TANNER example-- I had burial dates from the parish record (original on film) for the son who died. I then borrowed the cemetery inscription records. There I found a transcription with a male TANNER I was unaware of, buried adjacent to the family patriarch. When I looked through my material again, I realized that this was the son who died young, but one number had been transposed. So research, and have fun! If nothing else, it teaches you patience and perseverance! Judith in OH

You cannot do everything on line! How do you know that information on line is correct? There is nothing that will replace searching the original records. You can order film from LDS and search the original records that have been microfilmed. You can make copies of documents from those records. I have copies of everything pertaining to the lines I am searching. Then a year or two down the road, have gone back to those documents because I came across new information and all of a sudden, that copied document turned out to be a key piece of evidence. Having copies of documents is very important. One example of online info through IGI at the LDS website is the name of a person Hans Stephan Imel and wife Ursula - which is not correct. I have copies of the documents for their marriage and children's births (these are German records which list parents names on birth records) and the father's name on the records is clearly Johann Sterban, so it boils down to an interpretation. Johann had 10 children and some of the records do not have his name very clearly, but there are 3 of them that do. A friend of mine who was born in Germany did these translations for me, as I am not real good with the handwriting, but getting better! Not all records are on line. I have many records copied from film that are only on microfilm. So if you rely on just online records, I am afraid you are going to have big gaps in your information and you won't connect to the right family, if you connect at all. Not trying to step on anyone's toes here, but original document search is very important if you want to feel confident about your lines and that you have the right family. I'll get off my soap box now! Carole Lubbers, Marietta, Ga. researching Willard: Tuscarawas, Stark, Summit, Portage & Henry Counties, Ohio Immel: Burlaswagen, Germany to Holmes Co., Ohio Thomas G. Kemp: Cornwall, Engl. to Dover, Tuscarawas Co., Ohio Paczkowski/Paszkowski/Patzkowski: Prussia to Russia to Marion Co., Kansas Ruth Lloyd b. 1847 Merioneth Co., Wales, Father was John Lloyd b. 1816 Gwyddelwern Joseph Roberts b. 1848 husband of Ruth, can't locate anything for Joseph Dennis Hogan b. 1850 Ireland to Cleveland, Ohio abt. 1870 Mary Ellen Gleason b. 1852 Ireland to Cleveland, wife of Dennis Hogan ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 8:43 PM Subject: Re: Genealogy/city directory questions > I have never been to and LDS center, what types of information are at the sub > stations, that are not on line? > > > HAPPY HUNTING! > > Susan PI WARD > Searching > BEUCUS, CASPERSON, MICHEL, RETTBERG, WARD >

As far as I know, it does not have email. Wondering if there is any chance they might get one? Carole Lubbers, Marietta, Ga. researching Willard: Tuscarawas, Stark, Summit, Portage & Henry Counties, Ohio Immel: Burlaswagen, Germany to Holmes Co., Ohio Thomas G. Kemp: Cornwall, Engl. to Dover, Tuscarawas Co., Ohio Paczkowski/Paszkowski/Patzkowski: Prussia to Russia to Marion Co., Kansas Ruth Lloyd b. 1847 Merioneth Co., Wales, Father was John Lloyd b. 1816 Gwyddelwern Joseph Roberts b. 1848 husband of Ruth, can't locate anything for Joseph Dennis Hogan b. 1850 Ireland to Cleveland, Ohio abt. 1870 Mary Ellen Gleason b. 1852 Ireland to Cleveland, wife of Dennis Hogan ----- Original Message ----- From: "rnbill" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 6:09 PM Subject: Genealogy/city directory questions > Does anyone know if the Fairview Park Library on Lorain Rd has an e-mail > addresss? > > Bill >

Hello all. I have re-checked the library website and there is no link for Fairview Park. YOu will have to either call them or snail mail. I wrote several weeks ago for a l,ookup of an article about a train accident death and have not heard yet. I think waits have gotten loinger because there are so many of us "seekers" out there! Judith in OH

Does anyone know if the Fairview Park Library on Lorain Rd has an e-mail addresss? Bill