I found the following names on the Ellis Island Passenger lists arriving May 5, 1911. All are from Achill and their destination is Cleveland. Margaret Fallon, age 21, father Patrick Fallon Patrick English, age 22, father Thomas English James Needham, age 40, wife Annie Needham Catherine McLoughlen, age 20, father Michael McLoughlin Annie Masterson, age 20, father Patrick Masterson On June 25, 1916 Bridget Masterson, joining father ? Masterson at 1245 W. 67th Cleveland. Also on same ship-Corrigans, Navin, Scanlon from Achill ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com

Dear LADIES The housekeepers were, Mrs Horkin and Miss Griffin "MONSIGNOUR" GRIFFIN his SISTER. The PRIEST there were as follow: Rev. William (Bill) Winchester- Rev. John Mc Cann Rev. Anthony Friel (Tony) Rev. Albert Meyers (Al) Paul-Euclid,Ohio

Shelly A Mrs. McGovern lived with my grandaunts, the Mullaneys on Harvard Kay

What priests' housekeepers? I have Keyes relatives.....Lynne

The housekeepers for the priests --- Ag and Liz Keyes ----remember them Kay

Well done, Mary Ellen, I can find names any time but to be transported to the days when my own personal ancestors who I have been searching for were among their friends gives me more than just names. This site, as previously stated, is for Irish people and if I am not mistaken every email comes with a little x in the corner that is like the button that changes channels on the remote control...if you don't like us just turn us off. Mary Kay Johnsen - Wisconsinite so glad to be able to visit "family". -----Original Message----- From: Maryln61@aol.com <Maryln61@aol.com> To: OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com <OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 12 December 2002 9:23 AM Subject: Re: Just another Irish opinion >Jim~ > At first I was going to ignore your comment. However, in my reply to >Paet, I addressed genealogy in the sense of who to contact in the Westport >area, a good B&B for people who are doing research on Achill, names and an >address for the Angle, and rational for those who's family lost contact with >Ireland years ago. > Obviously you are among those who found history time lines the juice of >your high school and university history courses. Also you feel that >genealogy is only dates of birth, marriage and death. They were people who >felt, tasted and lived in those times. What they did and became made you, me >and everyone what we are today. Kennedy said it best, "You can't know who >you are until you know where you've been" or words to that effect. All >history and genealogy is a long unending novel for all to enjoy if they so >chose. > I do have O'Donnells in the line. > >Mary Ellen Chambers > >

Katie, Might you tell me what you know about the O'Malley's in your family. I have been trying to make a connection to that family as my grandmother was an O'Malley. Her name was Margaret and she had many sisters and brothers. She lived on the east side but many later moved to the west side. Thanks, Alice ----- Original Message ----- From: "katieros" <katieros@ezwv.com> To: <OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 3:08 PM Subject: Just another Irish opinion > Hi Jim > > I'm a non-Clevelander with 'heavy' Irish on mother's side and many, many > aunts, uncles and cousins that grew up in Cleveland in the late 20s and > early 30s. My mother was raised by her uncle and aunt in PA who were unable > to have children of their own, rather than with her parents in Cleveland. > Not having her siblings geographically close, she missed a lot of the family > chit-chat and everyday things that tie sisters and brothers (and she had 5 > of each!) together,-- such as who went to school with whom, where the places > to 'hang out' were, etc. I have many pictures of relatives (unmarked, of > course) that were taken in the Cleveland area in which I cannot identify > some or most all of the people. Since joining this list, I have been able > to pinpoint the areas of the city in which they may have been taken, have > put tentative names to people and contacted a few distant cousins I didn't > even know I had! It's nice to be able to look at a list and see names that > might connect. > > I'm 62 and one of one quests in life is to write family books--including all > sides of my family-- for my children, my grandchildren and my younger > siblings (in their 50s). I'd like to be able to put in the 'little' > personal things to match some of the pictures along with historical facts, > to enable my offspring to envision how and where our ancestors grew up. In > today's hi-tech world, this is a picture that my children (ages 25-41) and > grandchildren (3-21) can't possibly imagine without family stories, pictures > and other memorabilia. > > Unfortunately my mother and all but one of her generation are gone and there > is really nobody left to ask... So I think this list is a GREAT one, for > the most part its participants are genuine Irish,--always ready to lend a > helping hand to those 'fellow Irishmen' who need it,--the true hearts of the > Irish! > > Jim, as you are Irish from a large Cleveland family, perhaps you would like > to share some of your 'growing up' stories or tidbits from the past with the > rest of us. Here are a few of my 'Cleveland' names, maybe you knew some of > them: Collins, Lyons, Jenkins, Kirby, Burns, Hrudka, Hulbert, O'Malley, > Weber, Sanger, Cummings, Duffy, Beasley, Hubman, Saunders, Bonner, Brennan > and Carlin. > > I do agree that 'empty mail' messages take up unnecessary time and space. > Maybe to cut down on the amount of mail generated from simple thank you's, > we should all include the phrase 'Thanking you in advance' --thus > alleviating the need for thank you reply. How about putting 'personal > touches' in the subject line so that those not interested can simply delete > without opening? > > Sorry to take up list 'time' with this reply but I can honestly say that Jim > sparked my Irish temper! > > Katie in southern WV >

Katie~ I saw the surname Carlin on your list. Although I didn't go to school with any Carlins, there is a Lakewood family, large one, who are related to former neighbors of my parents, the Morans in the West Park area. Would there be any connection? Also Brennan, not related but my family knew a family who lived on either Clifton or Lake Ave, two spinster sisters, as the Irish say. Again, connection? Mary Ellen

Hi Jim I'm a non-Clevelander with 'heavy' Irish on mother's side and many, many aunts, uncles and cousins that grew up in Cleveland in the late 20s and early 30s. My mother was raised by her uncle and aunt in PA who were unable to have children of their own, rather than with her parents in Cleveland. Not having her siblings geographically close, she missed a lot of the family chit-chat and everyday things that tie sisters and brothers (and she had 5 of each!) together,-- such as who went to school with whom, where the places to 'hang out' were, etc. I have many pictures of relatives (unmarked, of course) that were taken in the Cleveland area in which I cannot identify some or most all of the people. Since joining this list, I have been able to pinpoint the areas of the city in which they may have been taken, have put tentative names to people and contacted a few distant cousins I didn't even know I had! It's nice to be able to look at a list and see names that might connect. I'm 62 and one of one quests in life is to write family books--including all sides of my family-- for my children, my grandchildren and my younger siblings (in their 50s). I'd like to be able to put in the 'little' personal things to match some of the pictures along with historical facts, to enable my offspring to envision how and where our ancestors grew up. In today's hi-tech world, this is a picture that my children (ages 25-41) and grandchildren (3-21) can't possibly imagine without family stories, pictures and other memorabilia. Unfortunately my mother and all but one of her generation are gone and there is really nobody left to ask... So I think this list is a GREAT one, for the most part its participants are genuine Irish,--always ready to lend a helping hand to those 'fellow Irishmen' who need it,--the true hearts of the Irish! Jim, as you are Irish from a large Cleveland family, perhaps you would like to share some of your 'growing up' stories or tidbits from the past with the rest of us. Here are a few of my 'Cleveland' names, maybe you knew some of them: Collins, Lyons, Jenkins, Kirby, Burns, Hrudka, Hulbert, O'Malley, Weber, Sanger, Cummings, Duffy, Beasley, Hubman, Saunders, Bonner, Brennan and Carlin. I do agree that 'empty mail' messages take up unnecessary time and space. Maybe to cut down on the amount of mail generated from simple thank you's, we should all include the phrase 'Thanking you in advance' --thus alleviating the need for thank you reply. How about putting 'personal touches' in the subject line so that those not interested can simply delete without opening? Sorry to take up list 'time' with this reply but I can honestly say that Jim sparked my Irish temper! Katie in southern WV

Paet, I am very familiar with the term "Irish relative". I come from a very large Cleveland Irish family on both sides of my family and am very interested in the "community" and obtaining more information that can help fill in the gaps. What I was referring to is when individuals keep sending messages back and forth, eg., thanking each other for their messages, asking what her maiden name was, what High School they attended, etc. These sorts of messages ought to be sent "off-line"; they are not genealogy issues. I don't think this web site is intented as a "chat room". Jim Paet Burcham wrote: >Jim, > >Are you familiar with the term "Irish relative"????? Many a time I heard >it mentioned as a child. The Irish relatives were the people my great >grandparents took in that were not Dever's or O'Malleys. The Dever's >lived in the front house on Herman Avenue and the "Irish relatives" lived >in the back house along with other real blood relatives. They stayed >there until they had enough money and a paying job so that they could >move out and set up housekeeping on their own. > >It is because of this type of "community" that it is essential for us to >continue sending, as you put it "personal messages"........ When dealing >with this group you are dealing with a group of people that originally >came over from Achill Island and a small area just facing the Sound. >Most likely, if we all dug deep enough we would find that in some way we >are all related. So, it is important for us to talk about who sat next >to who and etc. Also, though I do not consider myself as old, being 55, >the memories of what my grandfather told me of the area are slowly >blurring. If my memories can be saved and passed on to younger people on >this list my grandparents and great-grandparents memories and life will >not be lost. This is what genealogy is all about - not just a pedigree >list! > >If we were discussing all of Ireland you would have a point - but we are >discussing, for the most part a hunk of land here in Cleveland that isn't >much more then a mile and a half square, if that. There are many >memories and much history to be considered about this place - and if we >are lucky we will also find out about that other hunk of land our >ancestors came from Achill Island, Co. Mayo.............. If you find >this boring you can always go to the nonspecific Irish genealogy pages. >Ohio-Cleveland-Irish-L at rootsweb is pretty darn specific. I do hope >that you will understand what I am saying. No disrespect intended...... >we are just a unique group. > >Paet...... >On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 19:56:46 -0500 "James O'Donnell" ><jfwlodonnell@erols.com> writes: > > >>Hey folks, lets cut down on sending personal messages to the whole >>group. Not everyone is interested in hearing about taking the >>streetcar >>to visit Granny, or who sat next to you at HNS. These kinds of >>trivia >>take lots of time for us to plow through. >> >>Jim >> >> >> >> >> > > > >

Jim, Are you familiar with the term "Irish relative"????? Many a time I heard it mentioned as a child. The Irish relatives were the people my great grandparents took in that were not Dever's or O'Malleys. The Dever's lived in the front house on Herman Avenue and the "Irish relatives" lived in the back house along with other real blood relatives. They stayed there until they had enough money and a paying job so that they could move out and set up housekeeping on their own. It is because of this type of "community" that it is essential for us to continue sending, as you put it "personal messages"........ When dealing with this group you are dealing with a group of people that originally came over from Achill Island and a small area just facing the Sound. Most likely, if we all dug deep enough we would find that in some way we are all related. So, it is important for us to talk about who sat next to who and etc. Also, though I do not consider myself as old, being 55, the memories of what my grandfather told me of the area are slowly blurring. If my memories can be saved and passed on to younger people on this list my grandparents and great-grandparents memories and life will not be lost. This is what genealogy is all about - not just a pedigree list! If we were discussing all of Ireland you would have a point - but we are discussing, for the most part a hunk of land here in Cleveland that isn't much more then a mile and a half square, if that. There are many memories and much history to be considered about this place - and if we are lucky we will also find out about that other hunk of land our ancestors came from Achill Island, Co. Mayo.............. If you find this boring you can always go to the nonspecific Irish genealogy pages. Ohio-Cleveland-Irish-L at rootsweb is pretty darn specific. I do hope that you will understand what I am saying. No disrespect intended...... we are just a unique group. Paet...... On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 19:56:46 -0500 "James O'Donnell" <jfwlodonnell@erols.com> writes: > Hey folks, lets cut down on sending personal messages to the whole > group. Not everyone is interested in hearing about taking the > streetcar > to visit Granny, or who sat next to you at HNS. These kinds of > trivia > take lots of time for us to plow through. > > Jim > > >

Parnell, Thank you so much for the wonderful resource Marilyn

In a message dated 12/10/2002 9:19:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, Lmsvo@aol.com writes: > Also, relative Michael Francis Keyes on the 1910 Census at 14830 Lake Shore > Blvd. in St. Jerome Parish? > > Yes that would be St. Jerome Parish but I believe that St. Jerome's was founded in 1910. I know that the first rectory was located in a house around East 148th Street on Lake Shore. It may have been the very house, but I am not sure.

Hi Annie Rootsweb lists don't allow for any attachments. When it 'bounces' back to you, there should be a message to that affect.

Saw the graven name involved in the Flat Iron. Who are they? My grandmother's maiden name is Graven? Ellen _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Lily SRXMD is having a problem sending this picture of Boys from the Angle through. She thought that if I forwarded it it might work. I was afraid wouldn't be able. I know on the Irish List you can't. Mary Ellen

In a message dated 12/9/02 5:49:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, riton@attbi.com writes: > Are you sure you are not talking about St. Philomena's Church which is > located in East Cleveland on Euclid Ave? My assumption is that he was Irish > Catholic. That church was predominantly Irish Catholic > EYE, lived at 1834 Vassar St. East Cleveland, Ohio 44112 (1928-1950) Right next door ,to where the NUN's lived, and went to school there.(1st-8th) (Latin-9th-11th) and SHAW HI (11-12th) What kind of information, are you, LQQKING for. Paul-Euclid,O HI O 44132 (Dthreestrings@aol.com)

1355 W. 29th Street. This is the house where my Mother was born. Her Mother is holding her. [Unable to display image]m

Mary Ellen How about the Flat Iron Cafe?????/ John

Is there anyone out there that attended St. Philamon (Spelling). My dad, William Norman BURKE (or it could have been Norman William BURKE) Said that he attended. He was born 1920 and is now deceased. Can you tell me where I might write for records? Thank you. D. Burke