Looking for Alice C McCormick or Mc Cormack, this was my Grand Mother. She married James W. Doran from TAYLOR ST, and lived after that at Number - NINE (9) DIVISION St - Grand Father James W. was with Cleveland Police Dept and was a Detective in the Prosecutor Office. Any help will be appreciated, by this OLD man. Please, help me find my way. Paul Doran - Euclid, Ohio (DThreestrings)

Pat, Where on Mulberry did your Walsh's live? I'm looking for a Chambers connection on Mulberry. My husband's great-grandmother, Katherine Kerrigan is the daugther of Patrick Kerrigan and Anna CHAMBERS. They lived on Mulberry for a while after coming from New York City abt 1892. Since so many Chambers lived in the area I believe they may have stayed with some of Katherines relatives. I have 60 Mulberry and 2314 Mulberry in my records. Lilly On Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:18:12 EDT PatPischel@aol.com writes: > <PRE>Parnell..........Did your Thomas have any brothers? Looking for > the family > of Dominick Walsh (married Catherine Chambers--lived on Mulberry) > whose > father was Michael and mother was Bridget Sweeney. Any > connections?........Pat > > >

Searching for any clues to Michael O'Neill - married to Honora ( Nora Shea) in Ireland. Children: Mary b. abt. 1876 - Ireland. Myra b. abt. 1881- Ireland. Frances b. abt. 1882 - Ireland. Family immigrated about 1885. Myra married William Bresnahan and is found in 1910 with her sister Mary living in Columbus, Ohio. Frances married Peter Hovis abt 1896 and is found in Cleveland, Ohio 1900 but cannot find Michael, Nora, Mary or Myra. Where online are the immigration cards that have been mentioned in previous discussion. Could anyone check the 1895-1900 Directories for Michael O'Neill ( any spelling) for an address that I might use in checking census records. Thanks for your help. Nancy Sullivan Breshie@aol.com

I have a question. I did find my GG-grandfather's Naturalization onfo on line and I was able to request a copy of the certificate on line. It was for Martin McGovern and he came to America 1862 and these papers are dated 1867. Is there a chance there is more information re: his naturalization? Or, in this case, is the info I have the complete info??? Shelly

Shelly, I have info on Martin in my book, but my publisher would not be happy if I gave it out. You might try looking for his first papers, Declaration of Intent. If you have the date 1862 you might look at the multi-volume series Famine Immigrants for 1862 for additional info. Happy Hunting! Donna M. Wolf --- Shellymc2@aol.com wrote: > I have a question. I did find my GG-grandfather's > Naturalization onfo on > line and I was able to request a copy of the > certificate on line. It was for > Martin McGovern and he came to America 1862 and > these papers are dated 1867. > > > Is there a chance there is more information re: his > naturalization? Or, in > this case, is the info I have the complete info??? > > Shelly >

More information.. There are two steps to the naturalization process, the first papers or Declarations of Intent and the final papers or the actual naturalization. In Cuyahoga County these papers are filed in both Common Pleas and Probate Courts (after 1852) and also District Court (under Federal jurisdiction). The Probate Court Records are well indexed and copies of the records are available on microfilm from LDS. The Common Pleas Court Records seem to be less well organized. There seem to be multiple indexes, with a great deal of repetition. However, some of the naturalization records provide the place where first papers were filed, giving the exact county and state. This is helpful in tracing the immigrant's prior place of residence in the U.S. or Canada. The Declarations of Intent often provide the date of arrival in the U.S. As this is based on the memory of the immigrant it may not be entirely accurate, but it is a place to start. The Petitions for Citizenship often provide a location in Ireland. They are often misspelled and have to be researched and corrected using other sources. This is "as good as it gets" in many cases, and one has to work with what is available. The Petitions files frequently contain copies of the original Declarations of Intent which were filed in another state or county and have been presented by the immigrant as evidence of having filed first papers. The names of witnesses in these and other records may provide the names of other relatives, and help to "sort out" those with more common names. In truth, there is more information available than the index cards in many, but not all cases. The 20th century naturalization records, many of which are filed in the National Archives are much more complete, as most of us know. The 19th century records are more challenging. As with any other original sources these need to be combined with other genealogical information to piece together the "puzzle" about our ancestors. Finding the pieces and putting them together is part of the challenge for a family researcher, and also part of the fun. Don't back away from the challenge. Donna M. Wolf Genealogist Author Irish Immigrants in the Naturalization Records of Cuyahoga County, Ohio 1820-1900. See http://www.clossonpress.com for information --- Judith <jrosenbe@neo.rr.com> wrote: > As disappointing as it sounds, the records on those > cards ARE the real > records-- all there is for naturalizations. There > were no extensive > records kept at all-- just country they came from > (in the case of the Irish, > it often appeared as Great Britain, since > technically, this was correct), > when they arrived, age at arrival, and when they > were being naturalized. > Sometimes their local address is included or a > sponsor's name, but that is > not all that common. So it is not really a good > resource for background on > your family. You also need to remember that someone > could be naturalized > anywhere--- someone may live in OH for many years, > but have been naturalized > in the area where they first arrived. > > which can be ordered through your local library or > LDS center-- but again, > very sketchy info. The name and age-- often > inaccurate-- of the person; > their port of origin, which did not reflect their > home county but where the > ship departed from; sometimes their occupation & > sometimes their city or > state of destination. There is a series of books > called the Famine > Immigrants, that covers the early years of Irish > immigration. They > transcribe passenger list info-- but they stop too > early for your > Somerville. > > Sorry not to have better news for you-- > Judith in Ohio > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Misterhounddog@aol.com> > To: <OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 6:05 PM > Subject: Cleveland Immigration Records > > > > I am trying to locate Immigration and > Naturalization records for my Irish > > Relatives. My Great Great Grandfather Andrew > Somerville came to this > country > > in May, 1838 and was Naturalized in September. > 1872. The only information > > that the Cuyahoga County Archives had was this > information on an index > cards. > > I would like to see if there is any other way to > obtain these records. > > Examples would be ship lists and immigration > records. Any help would be > > appreciated. THANKS > > > > ______________________________ >

As disappointing as it sounds, the records on those cards ARE the real records-- all there is for naturalizations. There were no extensive records kept at all-- just country they came from (in the case of the Irish, it often appeared as Great Britain, since technically, this was correct), when they arrived, age at arrival, and when they were being naturalized. Sometimes their local address is included or a sponsor's name, but that is not all that common. So it is not really a good resource for background on your family. You also need to remember that someone could be naturalized anywhere--- someone may live in OH for many years, but have been naturalized in the area where they first arrived. which can be ordered through your local library or LDS center-- but again, very sketchy info. The name and age-- often inaccurate-- of the person; their port of origin, which did not reflect their home county but where the ship departed from; sometimes their occupation & sometimes their city or state of destination. There is a series of books called the Famine Immigrants, that covers the early years of Irish immigration. They transcribe passenger list info-- but they stop too early for your Somerville. Sorry not to have better news for you-- Judith in Ohio ----- Original Message ----- From: <Misterhounddog@aol.com> To: <OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 6:05 PM Subject: Cleveland Immigration Records > I am trying to locate Immigration and Naturalization records for my Irish > Relatives. My Great Great Grandfather Andrew Somerville came to this country > in May, 1838 and was Naturalized in September. 1872. The only information > that the Cuyahoga County Archives had was this information on an index cards. > I would like to see if there is any other way to obtain these records. > Examples would be ship lists and immigration records. Any help would be > appreciated. THANKS > > ______________________________

Barb, this is BIG. For all of us that didn't know, thank you. Annie Drews Strongsville PS to everyone Had to get a new computer. Way behind in reading e-mail. AMD

Janet, If you type a single letter in the first name space, you get all the entries for that lettered name. I went through all the Gallagher records that way and found these names in volumes 3-5 (1838-1854) married in Cuyahoga County. You can look them up using the first and last name. Anthony, Eugene. Barb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet" <jtfriend@eclipse.net> To: <OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 11:45 AM Subject: Gallagher family > I've just started researching the Fox family in Jennings Co., Indiana. > Their son Michael was married to Ellen Gallagher in 1872 in Indiana. > However, the information I have states that her parents were born in Ireland > and married in Cleveland in 1845. They moved to Indiana in 1851. The > problem is that I do not know their first names -- they are referred to only > as "Mr. and Mrs. Gallagher". I tried looking them up in the marriage index > but I can only access the first 100 records and without first names, I > cannot go beyond that. I tried locating them in the 1850 census, but > without first names, I don't know how to identify them. Ellen was born in > Indiana in 1853, but so far I haven't located them in the 1860 or 1870 > censuses in Indiana. > > Does anyone on the list happen to have this family in their files? > > Any suggestions on how to access the next 100 records on the marriage index? > Maybe the County Archives can help me out. Any help will be appreciated. > > Janet Goldrick Friend > >

I've just started researching the Fox family in Jennings Co., Indiana. Their son Michael was married to Ellen Gallagher in 1872 in Indiana. However, the information I have states that her parents were born in Ireland and married in Cleveland in 1845. They moved to Indiana in 1851. The problem is that I do not know their first names -- they are referred to only as "Mr. and Mrs. Gallagher". I tried looking them up in the marriage index but I can only access the first 100 records and without first names, I cannot go beyond that. I tried locating them in the 1850 census, but without first names, I don't know how to identify them. Ellen was born in Indiana in 1853, but so far I haven't located them in the 1860 or 1870 censuses in Indiana. Does anyone on the list happen to have this family in their files? Any suggestions on how to access the next 100 records on the marriage index? Maybe the County Archives can help me out. Any help will be appreciated. Janet Goldrick Friend

Thank you for the suggestion Shelley. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Shellymc2@aol.com> To: <OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 2:03 AM Subject: Re: Cleveland Immigration Records > To search , I have a suggestion for you- if you have not already tried this. > This is how we found our GG-grandfather's naturalization papers in > Cleveland: > 1)www.rootsweb.com > 2)Under Hosted Volunteer projects, choose US Genweb project (That choice is > 3rd from the bottom in this section) > 3)Type in your surname and choose Ohio. Hit search. > Happy Searching!!! > Shelly > Researching McGovern in Cleveland >

There is a new book available entitled Irish in the Naturalization Records of Cuyahoga County Ohio 1820-1900. The information was hand copied directly from the records, and is more complete than the info on the Internet. One section consists of abstracts from the Petitions for Citizenship 1883-1900 which contains the date of birth of the immigrants, the place in Ireland where he resided, his occupation, and his address in Cuyahoga Co. The book contains over 14,000 names. For information see the publisher's web site, that is, http://www.clossonpress.com. Search under Ohio. Happy Hunting! Donna Wolf

Add to previous e-mail about rootsweb search...... If a page comes up that is all paragraphs, choose from the top right paragraph- state searches. Then, click on Ohio and put your surname in the type in area. Shelly

To search , I have a suggestion for you- if you have not already tried this. This is how we found our GG-grandfather's naturalization papers in Cleveland: 1)www.rootsweb.com 2)Under Hosted Volunteer projects, choose US Genweb project (That choice is 3rd from the bottom in this section) 3)Type in your surname and choose Ohio. Hit search. Happy Searching!!! Shelly Researching McGovern in Cleveland

I am trying to locate Immigration and Naturalization records for my Irish Relatives. My Great Great Grandfather Andrew Somerville came to this country in May, 1838 and was Naturalized in September. 1872. The only information that the Cuyahoga County Archives had was this information on an index cards. I would like to see if there is any other way to obtain these records. Examples would be ship lists and immigration records. Any help would be appreciated. THANKS

I am looking for any information on the Somerville, Cronin, Killeen and McGinness families in Cleveland Ohio

I have recently discovered that two of the children of William MCKENNA and Katherine LANDERS were born in Charlestown, Massachusetts. William and Catherine Landers McKenna were both born in Ireland. Their Children: John -born Ireland Jan. 4, 1845 (from Death Certificate and census records) Mary- born Scotland about 1846 (from census records) Robert-Christening: Charlestown, Suffolk, Massachusetts MAY 27 1847 (Christening and census) Catherine-Christening: Charlestown, Suffolk, Massachusetts MAR 12 1849 (Christening and census) Sarah- Born Cleveland abt 1855 (census) Joseph-born Cleveland abt 1858 (census) Peter-Born Cleveland 1860 (census) This family is in the Cleveland 1850 Census, so they left for Cleveland shortly after the birth of Catherine. It took five years to get from Ireland to Cleveland via Scotland and Massachusetts having 3 children along the way. What a life they must have had! They spent at least 2 years in Suffolk, before moving on to Cleveland. I'm wondering if they had a family connection there or just had to earn enough money to continue their move to Cleveland. Lilly ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com

Thanks again Donna for your suggestions. We belong to WRHS, I'll have to check if they have the type of list you mentioned. For the past several years I have posted on all the Rootsweb lists for surnames for descendants but to date no luck. Even sent letters to a town in Texas where a daughter was supposed to live. There were only about 6 with the same surname. Got an "E" mail back which said that all the families were related, after checking with one another no one had ever heard of the woman. As you said, sometimes months later I get a response from a query. Thanks for your interest. Mary Ellen Chambers

Thanks, but I have that type of information (i.e., 1960<1866). I am trying to track the decendents of these people. Both the family in Ireland and people here from this family have data re: their own specific group. However, we would like to share it with these missing decendents and add data from their branches which are missing. All the decendents we are researching track back to Jacob and Mary Ann McNamara Rooney of Knockfin Westport County Mayo pre 1820 and their daughter Mary Ellen Rooney Fadden and her husband Tadgh Fadden of Streamstown Westport County Mayo. 6 sibling emigrated to Cleveland in the late 1880/early 1890s. The above mentioned surnames are from two siblings, Anne McNamara Mooney nee Fadden/McFadden and James and Mary Philbin McFadden. The other decendents of the Fadden emigrants have remained in contact both here in the States and in Ireland. Mary Ellen Chambers Lakewood Ohio

Hi! I guess you have consulted the usual sources such as census records, wills, etc. You might try writing to the Genealogical Societies in Cleveland. There are several of them. Ask them to place a query on their bulleting board. They also have surname files which contain letters from individuals researching a particular name. Also try the Genealogical Societies in the counties around Cleveland as the population and perhaps the descendants spread out. Have you tried the Rootsweb mailing lists for the surnames in which you are interested? I know it is hard, but I have had the experience that placing queries pays off, often months later. Happy Hunting! Donna Wolf --- Maryln61@aol.com wrote: > Thanks, but I have that type of information (i.e., > 1960<1866). I am trying > to track the decendents of these people. Both the > family in Ireland and > people here from this family have data re: their own > specific group. > However, we would like to share it with these > missing decendents and add data > from their branches which are missing. > > All the decendents we are researching track back to > Jacob and Mary Ann > McNamara Rooney of Knockfin Westport County Mayo pre > 1820 and their daughter > Mary Ellen Rooney Fadden and her husband Tadgh > Fadden of Streamstown Westport > County Mayo. > > 6 sibling emigrated to Cleveland in the late > 1880/early 1890s. The above > mentioned surnames are from two siblings, Anne > McNamara Mooney nee > Fadden/McFadden and James and Mary Philbin McFadden. > The other decendents of > the Fadden emigrants have remained in contact both > here in the States and in > Ireland. > > Mary Ellen Chambers > Lakewood Ohio >