Thanks Shari, I haven't been able to get the name verified on Seth's b.Apr.1886, dad. Seems there was a fire in Washington and the records were destroyed for the 1890 census and his dad seems to have died in the time between 1880 and1900. His mother was named Catherine she was b.Sept.1849. If you run across him please let me know as there was several males around that time in Ohio. I know that Patrick wife Isabel came from Ireland but don't know if there was others. I'm reaching out for info on him now. I do know that this is fun. Thanks for your help and if you come across more info on Seth's dad or Patrick please let me know. Jim Makeever