Joyce, The 1840 index only lists the name of the head of household and since Herman would only be 13 yrs. old in 1840 he won't be listed. The only KAHL showing up is a Henrey KAHL in Richland County. Marilyn ---------------------original message------------------------ In a message dated 4/8/2006 3:35:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I would appreciate a lookup in the 1840 census for a Herman Kahl who was born in Hanover in 1827. He married Catherine Stahl Deinzer in 1868 in Butler County. He may have gone by another name also because I can not find him in the 1860 or 1880 census. I wonder if there are any Kahl's in the 1840 census in Butler County. Some spellings might be Kahle Kahl Kaehl Hael Cahol Thanks, Joyce