Dear Rose, More answers. Benjamin's middle name I think was Franklin. His children were: Birthdates Elba 3-1887 Mary 9-1888 (My grandmother) Saul C. 1890 Solomon 2-1891 Henry 1-1893 Simon C. 1896 Amos 10-1898 George C. 1901 Fred 5-1904 Howard 10-1908 (Uncle Howard) Thanks so much for your hard work. Sandy

Dear Rose, So sorry if I have confused you. Mary was Benjamin and Catharine Iola's daughter. She was Uncle Howard's sister. I am not sure, but I believe she was named for Iola's mother. Sandy

Dear Beverlee, Thanks for your help. I will dig deeper and see if I can fit it in. Sandy

----- Original Message ----- From: "sarnafarm" <sarnafarm@alltel.net> To: <OH-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 12:33 PM Subject: [OH-CENSUS] Re: Monroe Co.-1860-Solomon Johnston > Hi Sandy, Maybe this is your Solomon in 1870; > 1870, OH, Monroe Co, Bethel twp, pg 35; > Solomon Johnston, age 28, farmer, $800, $375, b. OH; > Sarah, age 25, keeping house, b. OH; > Leroy, age 7, attends school, b. OH; > Dorcas A., age 5, at home, b. OH; > Fredericka, age 4, b. OH; > Alpha L., age 2, b. OH; > end of this household. > I have found a couple of possibilities for Benj in 1870 but can't post until > later today-time constraints. In the meantime, you mentioned he had a > sister Mary-is she older or younger than Benj and do you know of any other > siblings names? Also, do you happen to know Benj. middle name? > Rose > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > Dear Rose, > > > > Thank you so much for all of your good work. I really appreciate it. > > > > The problem is: I am researching the ancestors of my great uncle Howard > > Johnston. He is my grandmother, Mary Johnston's brother. He was born in > 1908 in > > Franklin Twp., Monroe Co., OH. His father was Benjamin Johnston and his > mother > > was Catharine Iola Crook. Benjamin was born in 1862, I believe in Monroe > Co. > > Uncle Howard has told me he didn't know his father's parents names. They > > were dead before he was born. Evidently they were never mentioned much in > the > > family. However, he says Benjamin had one half-brother named Solomon > (sp?) > > Johnston. Howard knew this half-brother so he was alive in the early > 1900s. I > > don't have his birth date, but I believe they all lived in Monroe Co.,OH. > I > > think that this half-brother was older and I was hoping to find him still > living > > with his parents which would lead me to Benjamin's father. Uncle Howard > is 95 > > and, while still reasonably sharp, is sketchy on details. He is the only > one > > in the family still living who would have any personal details. > > > > I believe Benjamin's mother was named Airy Johnston and was born about > 1824. > > However I don't know if she and his father ever married. She was listed > as a > > widow. The father could have been married before and was killed in the Ci > vil > > War after Benjamin was born. Wives died young in those days. She would > have > > been in her 40's when Benjamin was born, so perhaps she finished raising > > whatever children there were. > > > > I know the information is sketchy. If you could turn up anything else, I > > would be very grateful. As it is, I am at a very large brick wall. > Benjamin > > died in July of 1943 and possibly his death certificate will lead to > something. > > I need to check that. > > > > Sandy > > > ==== OH-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > To SEARCH the archives for a specific name check here: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=OH-CENSUS-LOOKUP > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Sandy, Maybe this is your Solomon in 1870; 1870, OH, Monroe Co, Bethel twp, pg 35; Solomon Johnston, age 28, farmer, $800, $375, b. OH; Sarah, age 25, keeping house, b. OH; Leroy, age 7, attends school, b. OH; Dorcas A., age 5, at home, b. OH; Fredericka, age 4, b. OH; Alpha L., age 2, b. OH; end of this household. I have found a couple of possibilities for Benj in 1870 but can't post until later today-time constraints. In the meantime, you mentioned he had a sister Mary-is she older or younger than Benj and do you know of any other siblings names? Also, do you happen to know Benj. middle name? Rose ----- Original Message ----- > Dear Rose, > > Thank you so much for all of your good work. I really appreciate it. > > The problem is: I am researching the ancestors of my great uncle Howard > Johnston. He is my grandmother, Mary Johnston's brother. He was born in 1908 in > Franklin Twp., Monroe Co., OH. His father was Benjamin Johnston and his mother > was Catharine Iola Crook. Benjamin was born in 1862, I believe in Monroe Co. > Uncle Howard has told me he didn't know his father's parents names. They > were dead before he was born. Evidently they were never mentioned much in the > family. However, he says Benjamin had one half-brother named Solomon (sp?) > Johnston. Howard knew this half-brother so he was alive in the early 1900s. I > don't have his birth date, but I believe they all lived in Monroe Co.,OH. I > think that this half-brother was older and I was hoping to find him still living > with his parents which would lead me to Benjamin's father. Uncle Howard is 95 > and, while still reasonably sharp, is sketchy on details. He is the only one > in the family still living who would have any personal details. > > I believe Benjamin's mother was named Airy Johnston and was born about 1824. > However I don't know if she and his father ever married. She was listed as a > widow. The father could have been married before and was killed in the Ci vil > War after Benjamin was born. Wives died young in those days. She would have > been in her 40's when Benjamin was born, so perhaps she finished raising > whatever children there were. > > I know the information is sketchy. If you could turn up anything else, I > would be very grateful. As it is, I am at a very large brick wall. Benjamin > died in July of 1943 and possibly his death certificate will lead to something. > I need to check that. > > Sandy

I would like a lookup for James E. Harding b. OH and wife Rachel Jane b. OH. They will have daughter Julia Catherine b. May 4, 1887. In 1902 they were living in Kennonsburg, Noble Co., OH. I do not have any dates for James or Rachel. I just recently discovered thier names off Julia's marriage license. Susan Couch Midland, TX

> Thank you Rose. I am trying to locate 1910 Census record for William Shimp, > age 68 with wife Rachel age 69. Hi Dorene, I'm not Rose and I may be jumping in without complete info, so please pardon me! I've found a William Shimp, 68, widower, living with daughter and son-in-law and family in Licking Co., OH. Could this be your William? Name: Wm Shump (note transcription of surname) Age in 1910: 68 Estimated Birth Year: 1841 Birthplace: Ohio Home in 1910: HARRISON TWP, LICKING, Ohio Race: White Gender: Male Series: T624 Roll: 1203 Part: 2 Page: 73A Year: 1910 Shimp, Wm, F-in-law, M W 68 Wd OH OH OH Living with Lester and Clara Fritz, children Cecil, Luella, Harrold, Clarence all born OH, and all parents born OH in Harrison Twp., Licking Co., OH on 15 April 1910. I don't find a Rachel Shimp anywhere in Ohio but the index I'm using is head of household only (with the exception of any others with a different surname in a household--that's how Wm popped from the Fritz household). Let me know if you'd like a copy of the image. Regards, Terri McDonald Hauk t.hauk@comcast.net

Dear Rose, Thank you so much for all of your good work. I really appreciate it. The problem is: I am researching the ancestors of my great uncle Howard Johnston. He is my grandmother, Mary Johnston's brother. He was born in 1908 in Franklin Twp., Monroe Co., OH. His father was Benjamin Johnston and his mother was Catharine Iola Crook. Benjamin was born in 1862, I believe in Monroe Co. Uncle Howard has told me he didn't know his father's parents names. They were dead before he was born. Evidently they were never mentioned much in the family. However, he says Benjamin had one half-brother named Solomon (sp?) Johnston. Howard knew this half-brother so he was alive in the early 1900s. I don't have his birth date, but I believe they all lived in Monroe Co.,OH. I think that this half-brother was older and I was hoping to find him still living with his parents which would lead me to Benjamin's father. Uncle Howard is 95 and, while still reasonably sharp, is sketchy on details. He is the only one in the family still living who would have any personal details. I believe Benjamin's mother was named Airy Johnston and was born about 1824. However I don't know if she and his father ever married. She was listed as a widow. The father could have been married before and was killed in the Civil War after Benjamin was born. Wives died young in those days. She would have been in her 40's when Benjamin was born, so perhaps she finished raising whatever children there were. I know the information is sketchy. If you could turn up anything else, I would be very grateful. As it is, I am at a very large brick wall. Benjamin died in July of 1943 and possibly his death certificate will lead to something. I need to check that. Sandy

Sandy, there were several Solomon Johnston but World Connect lists one that might fit. He was born May 1842 (prob Bethel Twp, Monroe) married Sarah; they had 8 ch, 7 survived until at least 1910. Death date listed as 12 Jan 1920 burial at Creighton Ridge, Bethel Twp, Monroe Co. That's pretty much all I have Beverlee > Dear Rose, > > Thank you so much for all of your good work. I really appreciate it. > > The problem is: I am researching the ancestors of my great uncle Howard > Johnston. He is my grandmother, Mary Johnston's brother. He was born in 1908 in > Franklin Twp., Monroe Co., OH. His father was Benjamin Johnston and his mother > was Catharine Iola Crook. Benjamin was born in 1862, I believe in Monroe Co. > Uncle Howard has told me he didn't know his father's parents names. They > were dead before he was born. Evidently they were never mentioned much in the > family. However, he says Benjamin had one half-brother named Solomon (sp?) > Johnston. Howard knew this half-brother so he was alive in the early 1900s.

This may or may not be my great-aunt Marie. Marie's parents, Victor and Katie (Will) Dreher, were born in Bavaria, but census takers of that era weren't always attentive to such things and often weren't given correct info. Margaret, my grandmother, was married at the time of the 1930 census to Edward C. Manne who lived with the Drehers at the Waverly Ave. address. I do belong to the Hamilton County list and they have been of some help in narrowing down the Drehers and Mannes. I may check out Longview Hospital to see if there are any record that can be released to me about Marie. Thanks again. Roger D. McMillian The McMillian Company http://home.insightbb.com/~laserferret/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "sarnafarm" <sarnafarm@alltel.net> To: <OH-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 1:37 AM Subject: [OH-CENSUS] Re: 1910/hamilton/Marie Dreher > Hi Roger, If you don't already belong to the Hamilton County list, by all > means join. It is like this list only for more info than just census and > only for Hamilton Co. Wasn't sure what census years you had them on but I > looked up 1920 and Kate is still head of house and all children still > home-Elsie is the only one marr but she and hubby John Ismael (spelling per > 1920 census) are also living with Kate. Elsie and hubby "appear" to be > living with his parents in 1930 although they are listed as a separate > family living within the same building so their relationship to the other > Isneal (spelling per 1930 census index) is not stated. Perhaps this is > Marie in 1930 although age is off a little and parents place of birth is > off--mistakes are common --, OH, Hamilton Co, Cinn, Ward 13, pg 172, sheet > 3A, ED 142, taken Mar. 25; Longview Hospital for the insane; > Marie Dreher, inmate, female, white, age 35, single, can read & write, b. > OH, parents b. OH: > I didn't see Kate or John in Hamilton Co index but I didn't spend a lot of > time on them since I don't know if you already have it. If not, or you want > the info on Elsie, you can repost to the list for a reading. Hope this > helps. Rose

Hi Roger, If you don't already belong to the Hamilton County list, by all means join. It is like this list only for more info than just census and only for Hamilton Co. Wasn't sure what census years you had them on but I looked up 1920 and Kate is still head of house and all children still home-Elsie is the only one marr but she and hubby John Ismael (spelling per 1920 census) are also living with Kate. Elsie and hubby "appear" to be living with his parents in 1930 although they are listed as a separate family living within the same building so their relationship to the other Isneal (spelling per 1930 census index) is not stated. Perhaps this is Marie in 1930 although age is off a little and parents place of birth is off--mistakes are common --, OH, Hamilton Co, Cinn, Ward 13, pg 172, sheet 3A, ED 142, taken Mar. 25; Longview Hospital for the insane; Marie Dreher, inmate, female, white, age 35, single, can read & write, b. OH, parents b. OH: I didn't see Kate or John in Hamilton Co index but I didn't spend a lot of time on them since I don't know if you already have it. If not, or you want the info on Elsie, you can repost to the list for a reading. Hope this helps. Rose ----- Original Message ----- > It is, indeed. Is there any way I can learn more about Marie? She was my > great-aunt and the most elusive of Great grandma Katies children, as she > died in 1950, a year before I was born. I don't know if she ever married, > or had children. I live in Illinois and have no direct access to Ohio > records except through this very helpful network of dedicated researchers. > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > Hi Roger, Hopefully this is the right family. > > 1910, OH, Hamilton Co, Cinn, Ward 11, ED 124, sheet 14A, taken April 27,

Thank you Rose. I am trying to locate 1910 Census record for William Shimp, age 68 with wife Rachel age 69. Sincerely, Dorene

Hi Julie, This looks like the two families; 1930, OH, Guernsey Co, Spencer twp, pg 168, sheet 5A, ED 33, taken April 16, no street or house # given; James A. Teel, head, rents, $5.00, has radio, male, white, age 52, marr, at 28, can read & write, b. OH, parents b. OH, farm laborer, farm, wage worker, no military service; Nellie, wife, female, white, age 48, marr, at 24, can read & write, b. OH, parents b. OH; end of this household; 1930, OH, Guernsey Co, Jackson twp, ED 14, pg 26, sheet 3A, taken April 3, living at what appears to be 105 Highland Ave; Carlos Teel, head, rents, $12.00, male, white, age 25, marr, at 23, b. OH, parents b. OH, carter, pottery, wage worker, no military serv; Gertrude, wife, female, white, age 25, marr, at 23, b. OH, father b. OH, mother b. KS, can read & write; Bertha, mother, age 50, widow, marr at 18, b. OH, parents b. OH, can read & write; end of this household. Hope this helps. Rose ----- Original Message ----- ....... I found the other two girls in 1910 and > 1920 as married women with families , but have not listed out each family > member and age yet....nor do I have access to the 1930 census. Perhaps someone > else could check the 1930 to see if they were still alive and where they were. > One of these girls may have gone by a different first name later in > life....maybe EDNA Teel. > > In 1920, James Teel was in Noble Co with wife Nellie and Leonard Teel was in > Guernsey Co with wife Bertha. > > Julie

This may be them. 1870 Ross County, Buckskin Twp NEWLEN, William, 51, M, W, Farmer Eliza, 22, F, W, Keeps House Edward, 19, M, W, Farm Laborer Rebecca, 21, F, W, Helps in house Leah, 15, F, W, helps in house Rachel, 12, F, W, helps sister Joseph, 8, M, W All born Ohio Then looked for them in 1860 to determine mother's name and found them in Buckskin Twp NEWLAND, Wm, 40 , Farmer Rachel, 41 Wm H, 17 Mary E, 15 Sarah M, 14 Eliza H, 12 Rebecca J, 10 Aaron E, 8 Leah S, 6 Saml H, 4 Rachel R, 1 All born Ohio In 1880 found them in Ross County, Twin Twp William NEWLAND, self, 60, Farmer, b. OH, OH, VA Leah L, wife, 24, b. OH, OH, OH Joseph W, son, 17, farm laborer Albert, son, 5 I checked all the townships in Ross county in 1870 and looked at all the NEWLANDS, NEWLAN's and NEWLEN's or any close variation of the name and this was the only family with a Joseph around your Joseph's age. Karen

Hi Roger, Hopefully this is the right family. 1910, OH, Hamilton Co, Cinn, Ward 11, ED 124, sheet 14A, taken April 27, living at 100 Clifton Ave; Kate Dreher, head, female, white, age 45, widow, bore 6 children, 4 still living, b. Germany, parents b. Germany, immig-appears to be 1868, can read & write, no occupation, rents, house; John, son, male, white, age 23, single, b. OH, parents b. Germany, crater, stove factory, wage worker, can read & write; Marie, dau, age 19, single, b. OH, parents b. Germany, seamstress, tailor, wage worker, can read & write; Margaret, dau, age 18, single, b. OH, parents b. Germany, seamstress, tailor, wage worker, can read & write; Elsie, dau, age 11, b. OH, parents b. Germany, attends school, can read & write; end of this household. Rose ----- Original Message ----- > born: 1/20/91 Cincy, Oh > > Roger D. McMillian

Hi Dorene, Here is the 1900 reading requested below; 1900, OH, Fairfield Co, Violet twp, ED 22, sheet 5B, taken June 8 & 9; William Shimp, head, white, male, b. Dec. 1841, age 58, marr, 37 yrs, b. OH, parents b. OH, farmer, can read & write, rents, farm, farm schedule # 125; Rachel, wife, white, female, b. April 1841, age 59, marr, 37 yrs, bore 8 children, 1 still living, b. OH, father b. MD, mother b. OH, cannot read or write; end of this household. Also in Violet twp, sheet 3A, ED 22 is James Shimp, white, male, b. Nov 1851, age 48, single, b. OH, father b. PA, mother b. MD, day laborer-he is listed as a servant in the household of David England. In Liberty twp, ED 16, pg 234, sheet 3B is Jacob Shimp, age 53, b. OH and his family. Liberty twp, ED 16, page 239A & B, sheet 7A & B are; George H., age 34, b. OH and his family; Hugh, age 57, b. OH, and his family; Chas E., age 29, b. OH and his family. If you are interested in a reading on these you can repost to the list-be sure to change subject line to reflect the year you seek and you can post for Geo, Hugh and Chas together since they are on the same pg. Rose ----- Original Message ----- > Dear Rose: > Thank you for your help. Both Mary & Catherine Shimp are mine, they > were married to brothers William and George Shimp. I do > have a William H. Shimp in Liberty Twp., Fairfield Co., OH in 1900 age about > 58 with Wife Rachel also about 58. Can you see if they are still there at that > time? > Sincerely, Dorene Shimp Morris

It is, indeed. Is there any way I can learn more about Marie? She was my great-aunt and the most elusive of Great grandma Katies children, as she died in 1950, a year before I was born. I don't know if she ever married, or had children. I live in Illinois and have no direct access to Ohio records except through this very helpful network of dedicated researchers. ----- Original Message ----- From: "sarnafarm" <sarnafarm@alltel.net> To: <OH-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 11:36 PM Subject: [OH-CENSUS] Re: 1910/hamilton/Marie Dreher > Hi Roger, Hopefully this is the right family. > 1910, OH, Hamilton Co, Cinn, Ward 11, ED 124, sheet 14A, taken April 27, > living at 100 Clifton Ave; > Kate Dreher, head, female, white, age 45, widow, bore 6 children, 4 still > living, b. Germany, parents b. Germany, immig-appears to be 1868, can read & > write, no occupation, rents, house; > John, son, male, white, age 23, single, b. OH, parents b. Germany, crater, > stove factory, wage worker, can read & write; > Marie, dau, age 19, single, b. OH, parents b. Germany, seamstress, tailor, > wage worker, can read & write; > Margaret, dau, age 18, single, b. OH, parents b. Germany, seamstress, > tailor, wage worker, can read & write; > Elsie, dau, age 11, b. OH, parents b. Germany, attends school, can read & > write; > end of this household. > Rose > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > born: 1/20/91 Cincy, Oh > > > > Roger D. McMillian > > > ==== OH-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > To SEARCH the archives for a specific name check here: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=OH-CENSUS-LOOKUP > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Dear Rose: Thank you for your help. Both Mary & Catherine Shimp are mine, they were married to brothers William and George Shimp. I don't need the images but thank you for the offer. I will make a note of the check mark. The other 4 Williams are related to me but not in my direct line. I do have a William H. Shimp in Liberty Twp., Fairfield Co., OH in 1900 age about 58 with Wife Rachel also about 58. Can you see if they are still there at that time? Sincerely, Dorene Shimp Morris

Hi Dorene, I didn't find a William Shimp in Fairfield Co but did find these two entries-could William have died by then? 1840, OH, Fairfield Co, Greenfield twp, pg 288; Catherine Shimp, head; Males; 1 in age 15 - 20; 2 in age 20 - 30; Females; 1 in age 15 - 20; 1 in age 50 - 60; end of this household. Then there is an entry indexed as Shump but after viewing the page, it appears to be Shimp to me -it has a dot over what I think is an i not a u. 1840, OH, Fairfield Co, Liberty twp, pg 364; Mary Shump (as indexed), head; Males; 1 in age 5 - 10; 2 in age 20 - 30; Females; 1 under 5; 2 in age 10 - 15; 2 in age 20 - 30; 1 in age 30 - 40; and then instead of a 1 it has what appears to be a check mark in the box for age 50 - 60; end of this household. I don't usually send images but if you think this Mary might be yours and since there is some question about the name and the checkmark on the age 50 - 60, I can try to send you the image as an attachment if you would like. There were 4 William Shimp's that came up in the United States index; one in Salem Co, NJ; one in Cumberland Co PA; and 2 in Mifflin Co, PA; If you think those are a possibility, you may want to subscribe to those state lists for a reading on them. Hope there is something here to help. Rose ----- Original Message ---- > Looking for 1840 census data for William Shimp age between 50-60, with female > 40-50 possibly in Liberty Twp. Thank you for your help. > Sincerely, Dorene Shimp Morris

born: 1/20/91 Cincy, Oh Roger D. McMillian The McMillian Company http://home.insightbb.com/~laserferret/index.html