This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/oI4.2ACIB/770 Message Board Post: I am looking for any information on William born 1810? in Ireland. Was in America by 1854 Married Catherine (W)?) Children Thomas, Ellen, Anna, Charles, George, James. All in Deleware between 1850-1870.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/oI4.2ACIB/273.328 Message Board Post: Are you Sean - my nephew? If not, Wm. Joseph O'Donnell, formerly of Brighton, Mass., and in the past 15 yearas from Florida is/was my father. We're stuck on the lineage.... his mother's name was (Mary) Ellen Hurley-his father's name was Michael O'Donnell....I haven't been able to get any furthr so far...let me know if you have please. Thanks! Dorothy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Michael-Ellen O'Donnell(nee Hurley) Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/oI4.2ACIB/744.1 Message Board Post: Ellen (nee Hurley) O'Donnell was my paternal grandparent....immigrated from Ireland - had 5 children---any connection here. Her husband's name was Michael..cousins names I believe were Healer, Gaffney, Flynn, etc. Any help would be appreciated--I've been doing this search on and off for almost two years. My paternal grandparents lived in Somerville, Ma. Michael O'Donnell shows up in a Census Record around 1910 in Boston as a Laborer. my email address is duhlman@tampabay.rr.com Thanks in advance for ANY/ALL help! Dorothy O'donnell-Uhlman

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/oI4.2ACIB/769 Message Board Post: While I'm on the subject of Irish customs and traditions ... Someone asked on the list about some families dropping the 'O' in ÓDonnell. This was indeed a result of the penal laws in Ireland. In some places they were quite severe, according to my research, even to the point of death if families did not drop the ó in front of the surnames. At best they could not work or own property if they did not comply. Those who had lost their lands and needed to work had no real choice. The crown wanted to wipe out all vestiges of the Gaelic familial social structure. The habit of placing an ó in front of the surname was a shorthand of ogha, or ua, which today is generally translated as 'grandchild,' but much is lost in translation, since Gaelic is nothing like English at all, and which more properly might be rendered 'of the generations of --' The Gaels placed a great deal of importance on their lineage, believing their "first ancestors" to be the gods themselves. Many of the ÓDonnell families, being the most powerful families in the Tirconnell, and retaining many of their lands, had more options and held to their spelling. Others did not. The ÓGallaghers eventually forfeited ALL their lands, and therefor had no way to resist if they wanted to eat. Almost all ÓGallaghers dropped the ó. When the ÓGallahers in my line came to America, they changed it to Gallaher because the ó had lost all of it's meaning here where no one spoke Gaelic. As families were broken apart, they lost their seanachaidh (historians), and thereby lost much of the meaning for their customs. Since English doesn't even have fadas or diacritical characters, it likely became just too bothersome for most to continue, since the language they now spoke didn't even carry the same meanings and nuances in the name as it did when spoken in Gaelic. All my best, Michael Monroe Gollaher (Mícheál Mac an Rothaich ÓGhallchobhar)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/oI4.2ACIB/766.1 Message Board Post: The short answer about tartans is ... no. There is no O'Donnell clan tartan. The word 'clann' in Scot's Gàidhlig describes a Scottish family society that never truly even existed in Ireland. There are those who argue that the word 'sept' is more appropriate for Irish family political structures. It is all rather academic, I suppose. At any rate, tartans are strictly a Scottish tradition, and one fraught with many die-hard misconceptions. The first one is that the original practice of weaving 'tartan' kilts, etc, actually had anything to do with the clan society. According to the scottishtartans.org website, "Originally all tartan material was hand woven. Highland weavers experimented with local dyes to create individual artistic tartan designs, from the very basic to the extremely complex. You may see a Highlander wearing a plaid of one tartan, cadadh, or hose, of another, a jacket of a third tartan, etc. Tartans had no individual meaning or connection to a clan, but were instead worn for fashion, for show, or in most cases, for camouflage." Try telling that to a fierce Scotsman today, though! There is NO "official" registry of clan tartans such as there is for heraldic devices, though several organizations have so named themselves, and keep track of more than 4,000 designs. A particular tartan CAN be copyrighted, however, and most of these designs are owned and jealously garded by individuals, families or clann associations. Ironically enough, the tartans were first described by the Irish due to Red Hugh's engagement of Scottish mercenaries in 1596. According to www.scottishtartans.org/museum.html : "In 1594, Red Hugh O’Donnell of Ireland engaged the services of Hebridean mercenaries from Scotland’s western isles. Lughaidh O’Clery, in Irish Gaelic, described these men as being “recognized among the Irish by the difference of their arms and clothing, their habits and language, for their exterior dress was mottled cloaks to the calf of the leg with ties and fastenings. Their girdles were over the loins outside the cloaks.” Thus we have, from an Irish source, the first written description of the belted plaid, later to become that globally recognized Scottish national dress, the kilt. This length of woolen cloth some 5 feet wide and 15 feet long, which was worn gathered into folds and belted around the body, was called a “plaide” by the Scots. This material was often in a cloth referred to as “Tartane.” The French word tiretaine referred originally to a certain type of cloth, irrespective of color or pattern, but come to be applied in Scotland specifically to the interlocking stripes we know today. The word for tartan in Gaelic is breacan , from breac, meaning “speckled.” If you simply MUST have a tartan to identify with, there is an alternative. There are 'official' tartans registered for counties and provinces of Ireland, as well as for Ireland itself. The most logical choice would be the Donegal Irish County tartan, seen at: http://www.lochassyntmills.com/mill/irish-tartan-d/donegal.html , and http://www.house-of-tartan.scotland.net/house/tfinder.htm There is also nothing stopping the Clann O'Donnell association from adopting there own tartan pattern, though I suspect it would seem a bit presumptuous by most Highlanders ... Evidently somebody did this once for the Gallaghers, as there is a pattern registered and generally available called Gallagher Ancient. I don't personally recognize it, however, as I believe the kilt and tartan belong to the Highland Clanns of Scotland. All my best, Michael Monroe Gollaher www.ogallagher.org

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: o'donnell Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/oI4.2ACIB/768 Message Board Post: looking for inf on gg grandmother Sarah O'donnell. born around 1818-20 in Donegal castle. married John m kelly and came to us around 1848. in us lived with family in new york area, San Fransico, portland oregon, florence idaho, Placeerville Idaho, then back to New york area. Suppose to be buried in St Paul in stanton Island but have not been able to confirm at this point. Does anyone have any inf out there thanks Deb Starr

The following were recently posted to the Gen-Obit-L list here at RootsWeb. For further info on the Obituary Daily Times, including additional O'DONNELLs, check here: <http://www.rootsweb.com/~obituary/>. Happy hunting! LAST NAME, First Name (MAIDEN); Age; Place of Death; Newspaper Name; Newspaper date O'DONNELL, Emma ( ); 87; PE; Charlottetown G; 2001-12-3 O'DONNELL, Helen Margaret (BRADY); 91; Kalamazoo MI>Colorado Springs CO; GZ; 2001-12-2 ODONNELL, Norma Lou (NORTHERN); 70; Knoxville TN; Knoxville N-S; 2001-12-11 Slán, Mo! (Hanrahan) Langdon

The following was recently posted to the Gen-Obit-L list here at RootsWeb. For further info on the Obituary Daily Times, including additional O'DONNELLs, check here: <http://www.rootsweb.com/~obituary/>. Happy hunting! LAST NAME, First Name (MAIDEN); Age; Place of Death; Newspaper Name; Newspaper date LANE, Murial Virginia (O'DONNELL); 80; Stevensville MD; Annap MD Capital; 2001-11-27 Slán, Mo! (Hanrahan) Langdon

The following was recently posted to the Gen-Obit-L list here at RootsWeb. For further info on the Obituary Daily Times, including additional O'DONNELLs, check here: <http://www.rootsweb.com/~obituary/>. Happy hunting! LAST NAME, First Name (MAIDEN); Age; Place of Death; Newspaper Name; Newspaper date O'DONNELL, Emma ( ); 87; PE; Charlottetown G; 2001-12-4 Slán, Mo! (Hanrahan) Langdon

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: O'Donnell, Wallin, Rakestraw Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/oI4.2ACIB/767 Message Board Post: I am looking for a marriage record for Michael O'Donnell to Harriett Wallin, daughter of William Wallin and Mary Rakestraw. Harriett was born in Ohio and Michael was born in Ireland. They lived in Knox County, Illinois for 30-40 years then moved to Peoria, where they lived with one of their sons until their deaths. They are both buried in Peoria. The marriage would have taken place between 1830 and 1840. Thanks.

The following was recently posted to the Gen-Obit-L list here at RootsWeb. For further info on the Obituary Daily Times, including additional O'DONNELLs, check here: <http://www.rootsweb.com/~obituary/>. Happy hunting! LAST NAME, First Name (MAIDEN); Age; Place of Death; Newspaper Name; Newspaper date O'DONNELL, Bonnie June (BRUSIE); 74; South Shore SD>Vancouver WA; Oregonian (OR); 2001-11-16 Slán, Mo! (Hanrahan) Langdon

The following was recently posted to the Gen-Obit-L list here at RootsWeb. For further info on the Obituary Daily Times, including additional O'DONNELLs, check here: <http://www.rootsweb.com/~obituary/>. Happy hunting! LAST NAME, First Name (MAIDEN); Age; Place of Death; Newspaper Name; Newspaper date O'DONNELL, Bonnie June (BRUSIE); 74; South Shore SD>Vancouver WA; Oregonian (OR); 2001-11-16 Slán, Mo! (Hanrahan) Langdon

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: O'DONNELL, CORCORAN Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/oI4.2ACIB/499.1 Message Board Post: Karen, I have a Martin O'Donnell and a GALWAY connection (although I am not sure exactly what connection). My great grandparents youngest daughter died at age 4 in 1900. A Martin O'Donnell is listed as "parent" on her death certificate even though my great grandparents were William Harrington O'DONNELL and Margaret Elizabeth Corcoran. They lived in Somerville, MA at the time of little Anna's death but they had lived in Cambridge, MA from 1882 to 1899. This Martin O'Donnell lived at 70 Harvard St. in Cambridge. His wife (Mary, I think, have to look up) was also listed on the death certificate. Little Anna's mother, Margaret E. Corcoran O'Donnell had been sick with lung disease for years and died the next year. I feel that Martin O'Donnell was William Harrington O'Donnell's brother, cousin, or nephew.... and that he and his wife had taken little Anna in because my grandmother who was a young teenager was cooking, washing, etc. for her father and the other 6 kids. My great aunt Marga! ret F. O'Donnell who was the next youngest child to little Anna told me when I was a child that the family was from GALWAY. William H. O'Donnell's father's name was DENNIS O'DONNELL and his mother was Catherine ____________. I am not sure if they came to America or not. I tend to think they did because William who was born in 1862 came in 1871 (of course, he may have come with an uncle etc.). -- Colleen

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/oI4.2ACIB/254.282.287 Message Board Post: I don't know if we have written to each other before, but I too am researching the O'Donnells of Dungloe. My grandmother, Bridget O'Donnell was born in 1903 to Hugh and Bridget (nee O'Donnell) O'Donnell. I have more, maybe you could tell me what you have on the O'Donnells. I know this is a very common name, but maybe we can match something up. Tim

The following was recently posted to the Gen-Obit-L list here at RootsWeb. For further info on the Obituary Daily Times, including additional O'DONNELLs, check here: <http://www.rootsweb.com/~obituary/>. Happy hunting! LAST NAME, First Name (MAIDEN); Age; Place of Death; Newspaper Name; Newspaper date O'DONNELL, Thomas E "Tim"; 86; ; Cincinnati E/P (OH); 2001-12-1 Slán, Mo! (Hanrahan) Langdon

The following was recently posted to the Gen-Obit-L list here at RootsWeb. For further info on the Obituary Daily Times, including additional O'DONNELLs, check here: <http://www.rootsweb.com/~obituary/>. Happy hunting! LAST NAME, First Name (MAIDEN); Age; Place of Death; Newspaper Name; Newspaper date O'DONNELL, Anne; 88; ; Los Angeles T (CA); 2001-12-3 Slán, Mo! (Hanrahan) Langdon

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: O'Donnell, Haffey Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/oI4.2ACIB/458.467 Message Board Post: I have a John O'Donnell in my "tree" with several children (Hugh; Francis; Mary; Anna Agnes; John; and Joseph). First record we of him is 1862 in Marietta OH when on 2 Jun 1862 John O'Donnell married Eunice Haffey. Family lived in Maysville, Mason Co, Kentucky from at least 1870 on (1870 census record). If you think there is a connection, please email me at stpaula617@aol.com Paula

> I was just wondering if the O'Donnell clan wore tartan, if they wore a kilt? If so what were the colours and design. Could someone please pass on any information or any links hwere I could find out. There is a reference to an O'Donnell wearing a tartan at http://www.amyjfetzer.com/irish_knight.htm but no information regarding it's colors. "Clan Shop", the on-line store at http://www.clanshop.co.uk/namefinder/nameso.htm, states that the O'Donnell (which they spell ss O'Donnel) tartan is the same as MacDonald. You can view samples of that tartan at "The Tartan Shop" at http://www.tartanshop.com/catalogue/searchresults.cfm?ID=2054991 Lastly, you might go to the O'Donnell Clan Homepage at http://www.donegaltown.ie/odonnell/ and see what they may offer for links or use their e-mail link to ask directly. Hope that helps. Dick ******************************************************* Richard J. O'Donnell Melbourne, Florida, USA dickod@mindspring.com Hosting multiple sites, visit my home base at: http://www.mindspring.com/~dickod *******************************************************

The following were recently posted to the Gen-Obit-L list here at RootsWeb. For further info on the Obituary Daily Times, including additional O'DONNELLs, check here: <http://www.rootsweb.com/~obituary/>. Happy hunting! LAST NAME, First Name (MAIDEN); Age; Place of Death; Newspaper Name; Newspaper date O'DONNELL, Mary (FLAHERTY); ; Carraroe Co Galway IRL>Dorchester MA; Boston Globe; 2001-2-8 O'DONNELL, Mary (FLAHERTY); ; Carraroe Co Galway IRL>Dorchester MA; Boston Globe; 2001-2-9 O'DONNELL, Phyllis (G)[SHEPARDSON]; 76; Gardner MA; Worcester T-G; 2001-10-1 Slán, Mo! (Hanrahan) Langdon

The following were recently posted to the Gen-Obit-L list here at RootsWeb. For further info on the Obituary Daily Times, including additional O'DONNELLs, check here: <http://www.rootsweb.com/~obituary/>. Happy hunting! LAST NAME, First Name (MAIDEN); Age; Place of Death; Newspaper Name; Newspaper date O'DONNELL, Edmund Patrick "Pat"; 63; Chatham ON; Windsor Star; 2001-11-23 O'DONNELL, James J; 80; ; Pittsburgh P-G (PA); 2001-11-3 O'DONNELL, John D; 66; ; Cincinnati E/P (OH); 2001-11-19 Slán, Mo! (Hanrahan) Langdon