Hi! I'd like to list this Co. Kerry family for a good friend of mine, who isn't on a computer yet. Helen's immigrant ggrandfather, Bartholomew CONNORS, was born in Co. Kerry about 1832. That's all we know. He immigrated to the USA where he married Mary FLYNN 19 Feb. 1843 in Massachusetts. Their children were: Johanna b. 31 May 1851 at Buffalo, NY, Jeremiah b. 25 June 1855 at Franklin, OH, and Michael b. March 1860. Bartholomew joined the Irish Wisconsin Volunteer Brigade, 17 Oct. 1861. In Company E of the 17th Regiment, he died at Vicksberg, MS 14 Oct. 1863. Would appreciate hearing about all Barth, Batt, Bartholomew CONNOR/O'CONNOR. The marriage certificate of this couple is signed by a cousin, Batt CONNOR, and Mary CONNER. Best wishes, Cora MCDONNELL

I found this on another list, and believe it will help you understand the GV better. "For the researcher then, a distribution study of any particular surname can be used to prioritize research. It can also be useful as general background information for a family history, showing how common or scarce, widespread or restricted, the name is in Ireland. Sometimes a surname distribution study will yield some real surprises. For example, a recent study of the surname Huntley failed to locate even one citation for that spelling in Griffith's! Two variant spellings were found, but only one citation to each - a Huntly in County Kilkenny and a Hundley in County Sligo. If ones Huntley ancestor left Ireland after Griffith's then one of these would likely be the desired family. When the distribution is this small however, it is difficult to judge where the family may have come from if they left Ireland prior to Griffith's Valuation. Perhaps the whole family left an area, leaving no one of that surname. Even in this case though, some useful information has been garnered--you know that if you find a record of the correct name and time period for your Huntley ancestor in Ireland, it is very likely the correct person, rather than someone coincidentally of the same name. There are two general types of distribution studies possible using Griffith's index. One is a study showing the frequency with which a surname is cited in each of Ireland's 32 counties. This gives a good overview, and helps determine if the name is localized or widespread. The second type of distribution shows how often the name is cited in each parish. There are about 2500 parishes in Ireland, so it is usually not practical to do this type of study for the entire country. If however, the county of origin is known for an ancestor, this kind of study, for one county, can be very useful. A parish by parish distribution study can be especially useful when you know both names for a couple who were married prior to emigrating. Except among the wealthy, most Irish found their mates nearby--often from the same parish or an adjoining one. Comparing the distributions for two names within a county will often limit the area you need to search to just one or two parishes (depending how common the names of course). Once you know where to search, local parish records can be consulted. Distribution studies are not a panacea, but wisely used they may save you a lot of work. When used as general background information, they are always interesting. Now that studies are available at minimal cost, you might want to have one done even if you already know the exact place of origin for your ancestor -- knowing where other members of the family lived can help fill in the "big picture" for you. Remember that distribution studies will not give you the exact place of origin for your ancestors, they will only tell you which places are most likely, so that you can prioritize further research."

Sorry, but the url has changed. I should have checked it before sending. I apologize. Here is the correct url: http://www.exis.net/ahd/monaghan/irishlinks.htm

It has been suggested by a lister to relate where and how I obtained the above cd. It is produced by Broderbund for Family Tree Maker and can be bought from them on line for $60.00. I have found it invaluable in my Irish research and for helping others. It is not perfect, and many will be quick to point out at times it may be inaccurate. But I use it and it has helped me. If you want to know more about what it is and what times it was done and the FHC film #, please go to the following site: http://www.exis.net/ahd/monaghan/iris -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Pat (Patraigin) Connors, California Siochain Leat (peace be with you) Researching: Connors/O'Connor, McEntee, Campbell, Flynn/O'Flynn, Smith, Phillips, Carter, Boyle, O'Rourke, Healey, Cullinan, Hoare, Todd, Owen, Booth http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/o/n/Pat-Connors/ mailto:nymets@pcweb.net Volunteer of Random Genealogical Kindness at http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnraogk/index.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Sorry, but the recent post I sent on Newport Cemetery inscriptions was wrong they were marriages and nothing to do with cemeteries! I should have read the end of the post better. If anyone has questions on the post, please direct them to Robin at Trixietric@aol.com -

These were sent to me by a fellow lister who had trouble posting to our list. 7-14-1860 John Connors and Hannora Maher witt John Mc Keogh and Anne Blake 7-14-1875 Michael Connors and Lizzie Ahern witt Chas Cullen and Bessy Ryan 2-8-1853 Bridget Connors and Michael Kelly Witt Michael Kenealy and Mary Magrath 1-13-1857 Mary Connors and Simon Brennan of Fiddane witt Darby Kearns and Mary Ryan 2-14-1857 Catherine Connors and Dan Donovan of Fiddane witt Daniel Donovan and Honora Ryan 5-8-1858 Mary Connors and John Ryan of Toareenbrien witt Pat Morrissy and May Morrissy 3-7-1859 Johanna Connors and Richard Rolls witt John Morressy and Margaret Burke 2-23-1862 Bridget Connors and Martin Burke witt John Sweeney and Anne Connors 1864 Mary Connors and William Cusack witt Jeremiah Kenna and Bridget McNamara these are records I copied from the New Port Catholic Parish . When we were in New Port we went to a cem. and the headstone were all for oconnors and ryans. Have you ever been to Newport? Robin

These are Marriage records I copied from Newport Catholic Parish , I 've have tried to send them a couple of times. Thomas Connors and Margarita Ryan 2-28-1797, Patt Connor and Jane Ryan,11-5-1825, witt Thos. Brennan and Norry Connors. Robin

Pat... Hope you don't mind, but I sent your message about the now "private" status of the LDS family search site on to the Hudson List. They were also wondering what had happened. Happy St. Patrick's Day!!! Diane in St. Louis, MO

I have tried to access this site and get a pop-up window asking for a username and a password. How does one get these? Is anyone else having this same problem? Jared Pat Connors wrote: > > Check out this site. It is a demo only scheduled to be up until 3/28. > At the very least, you can use the catalog and get the FHL film and > fiche numbers. Saves a lot of time. Happy hunting. > > http://eval.familysearch.com/default.asp > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Pat (Patraigin) Connors, California > Siochain Leat (peace be with you) > > Researching: Connors/O'Connor, McEntee, Campbell, Flynn/O'Flynn, Smith, > > Phillips, Carter, Boyle, O'Rourke, Healey, Cullinan, Hoare, > Todd, Owen, Booth > > http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/o/n/Pat-Connors/ > mailto:nymets@pcweb.net > > Volunteer of Random Genealogical Kindness at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnraogk/index.htm > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > ==== OCONNOR-TIPP Mailing List ==== > Tipperary Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip/tipperary.htm > Genuki Tipperary County: http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/genuki/irl/Tipperary/ > Archives: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > Listowner: Pat Connors mailto:nymets@pcweb.net

I am sorry that I gave you info that changed. When I left for work this morning I had full access to the new beta LDS Family Research site. When I got home, I couldn't believe all the email I got that said they were denied access because they didn't have a password or an ID number. This is what I have found out: "Over the weekend, I was able to get to the LDS site but all my queries resulted in "Could not process your request". Today, I was asked for a username and password. So I called the LDS today (at one of the 3 numbers given at http://www.lds.org/en/4_News_Update/19990304_FIGS.html ) to see if I could get in on the beta test. They said that the site had been changed to be "private" for now, and would be open to the public later this month. (Don't know why they couldn't have explained that on the site and saved probably thousands of people from retrying over and over...)" I found this on another list. I am sorry for whatever inconvenience that I caused you. I guess they didn't expect so many hits and got overloaded. It will be one of the things that they need to work out. From what I saw, it was basically like getting on the computer in the FHL (Family History Center at an LSD church). It was had the same kind of search qualities. To me not very sophisticated but workable. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Pat (Patraigin) Connors, California Siochain Leat (peace be with you) Researching: Connors/O'Connor, McEntee, Campbell, Flynn/O'Flynn, Smith, Phillips, Carter, Boyle, O'Rourke, Healey, Cullinan, Hoare, Todd, Owen, Booth http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/o/n/Pat-Connors/ mailto:nymets@pcweb.net Volunteer of Random Genealogical Kindness at http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnraogk/index.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

In a message dated 3/15/99 12:23:48 PM Pacific Standard Time, Pat Connors writes: > Anyway, I was able to get some film numbers for Doon, > Limerick/Tipperary. When I clicked on Doon, Tipperary, it directed me > to Limerick. Here they are: > > Parish register, marriages 1812 to 1845: FHL British Film 883851 Item 2 > > Parish register, Christenings 1804 to 1877: FHL British Film 883875 > Item 4 I have already ordered these films because my people were from Doon (which is usually listed as being in Limerick, although part of it is in Tipperary). If your people are Catholic, these could disappoint you. These are from Church of England, although it doesn't say so on the listing. Granted, sometimes Catholic sacraments are listed in Cof I registers, but you need to be alerted to the possibility that you won't find what you are looking for, if you people where Catholic. > You can order these films at any LDS Family History Library. It costs > me $4.00 each and takes about 3 to 6 weeks to get them from Salt Lake > City. You might suggest at your FHC that they consider ordering by modem. My center does, and most of the films show up in about 2 weeks, 3 max (unless it has to be back-ordered). Anne

>Check out this site. It is a demo only scheduled to be up until 3/28. >At the very least, you can use the catalog and get the FHL film and >fiche numbers. Saves a lot of time. Happy hunting. >http://eval.familysearch.com/default.asp I went to the site, happy to finally get an URL that looked like it might work, and was disappointed again. It wants a password. I tried my own name and a chosen password, but that wasn't good enough. What is the secret for getting in? Anne Lamb

In the interest of sharing the information we gather, I have obtained the following film numbers from the new LDS site. I must warn you, however, it is hard to get on this site because so many are hitting it. Also once on, you can get bumped off in the middle of what you are doing. I suggest you use off-hours, if there are any when the whole world it using it! Anyway, I was able to get some film numbers for Doon, Limerick/Tipperary. When I clicked on Doon, Tipperary, it directed me to Limerick. Here they are: Parish register, marriages 1812 to 1845: FHL British Film 883851 Item 2 Parish register, Christenings 1804 to 1877: FHL British Film 883875 Item 4 You can order these films at any LDS Family History Library. It costs me $4.00 each and takes about 3 to 6 weeks to get them from Salt Lake City. Since I have a number of films on order, I probably won't order them until April and will let you know when I get them for look ups. If anyone gets them ahead of me and can do look ups please let me know. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Pat (Patraigin) Connors, California Siochain Leat (peace be with you) Researching: Connors/O'Connor, McEntee, Campbell, Flynn/O'Flynn, Smith, Phillips, Carter, Boyle, O'Rourke, Healey, Cullinan, Hoare, Todd, Owen, Booth http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/o/n/Pat-Connors/ mailto:nymets@pcweb.net Volunteer of Random Genealogical Kindness at http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnraogk/index.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Check out this site. It is a demo only scheduled to be up until 3/28. At the very least, you can use the catalog and get the FHL film and fiche numbers. Saves a lot of time. Happy hunting. http://eval.familysearch.com/default.asp -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Pat (Patraigin) Connors, California Siochain Leat (peace be with you) Researching: Connors/O'Connor, McEntee, Campbell, Flynn/O'Flynn, Smith, Phillips, Carter, Boyle, O'Rourke, Healey, Cullinan, Hoare, Todd, Owen, Booth http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/o/n/Pat-Connors/ mailto:nymets@pcweb.net Volunteer of Random Genealogical Kindness at http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnraogk/index.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

In the honor of St. Patrick's Day and the overall good feeling of being Irish, I would like to extend my offer to do lookups in the Griffith's Valuation Index CD and the LDS British Isles Vital Records Index. I don't promise results but will look for you. Also, I only do them on weekends, so if you send a request during the week, it will take a few days. Please keep your message short with just the surname and county that you are searching. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Pat (Patraigin) Connors, California Siochain Leat (peace be with you) Researching: Connors/O'Connor, McEntee, Campbell, Flynn/O'Flynn, Smith, Phillips, Carter, Boyle, O'Rourke, Healey, Cullinan, Hoare, Todd, Owen, Booth http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/o/n/Pat-Connors/ mailto:nymets@pcweb.net Volunteer of Random Genealogical Kindness at http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnraogk/index.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

There is now a new list for genealogy centering around County Limerick. Anyone with interests in this area can subscribe by sending an email to: IRL-LIMERICK-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM If you want digest form, use D instead of L in the address. Don't put anything in the subject area and only "subscribe" without the quotes in the body of the message. Once you subscribe you will receive a welcome message with instructions on how to post messages on the list. Hope to see you there soon! -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Pat (Patraigin) Connors, California Siochain Leat (peace be with you) Researching: Connors/O'Connor, McEntee, Campbell, Flynn/O'Flynn, Smith, Phillips, Carter, Boyle, O'Rourke, Healey, Cullinan, Hoare, Todd, Owen, Booth http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/o/n/Pat-Connors/ mailto:nymets@pcweb.net Volunteer of Random Genealogical Kindness at http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnraogk/index.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Looking to expand my knowledge of my Tipperary O'Connor's. gg grandfather was WILLIAM O'CONNOR gg grandmother was CATHERINE GLEASON I believe they lived in Nenagh, Tipperary. Two of their children that I know about were: TIMOTHY JOSEPH O'CONNOR - my g grandfather. He was born Dec. 1836 possibly in Nenagh. Arrived in USA around 1857. Lived in Troy, NY. MICHAEL O'CONNOR, a brother to Timothy. He was born around 1845 in Newport, Tipperary. Lived in Troy, NY also. Would love to find out more about William and Catherine and what other children they had. Bill McGrath Clifton Park, NY Also researching these family names: CARROLL-CONROY - ? DUNN-FINN - ? McCORMICK-GASKIN - DUNBIN, LOUTH McGRATH-HAYES - THURLES, TIPPERARY McGRATH-KENNEDY - THURLES, TIPPERARY MANNING-O'HAIRE - ?

Marianne, Since you sent your message to the list, I will answer to the list and also send it to Anne. If you think you are connected to Anne, I would like to say that just last weekend I discovered that my ancestors were also from Doon. So maybe we have a three way connection. All this time I have been looking in Tipperary,not realizing that Doon is in both Tipperary and Limerick and listed in the Griffiths Valuation as Limerick only. Also the parish address is Limerick. So, the moral to this story is if your ancestors said they were from Tipperary, they may be listed in the records as Limerick or another bordering county. Seriously, my Timothy O'Connor looks like he is from Doon, Tipperary/Limerick. Any other O'Connors out there from Doon? -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Pat (Patraigin) Connors, California Siochain Leat (peace be with you) Researching: Connors/O'Connor, McEntee, Campbell, Flynn/O'Flynn, Smith, Phillips, Carter, Boyle, O'Rourke, Healey, Cullinan, Hoare, Todd, Owen, Booth http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/o/n/Pat-Connors/ mailto:nymets@pcweb.net Volunteer of Random Genealogical Kindness at http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnraogk/index.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Biddy O'Connor,age 14,Wexford was a passenger on the ship "Susan" from Dublin to N.Y., 6 Sept.,1803. Interestingly enough, the master of the ship was a John O'Connor. Also there was a Andrew Connor on the same ship but listed as leaving 13 Sept. 1803. Don't understand the date discrepancy . Others: John Connor... from Ballyshannon to Newcastle and Phil., 10 May 1804, on Brig. JEFFERSON , Daniel Knight, Master Mich. Connor... age 21,labourer from Wexford to N.Y.[ no exact date 1805-1811 ] on board ship ROVER , Geo. Bray, master. Michael Connor on ship SWAN from Cork to N.Y., 4 Sept. 1849 James Connor, age 45, Honor Connor,44, Martin Connor,22 John connor,37. from Co. Roscommon to N.Y. via Liverpool on ship PROGRESS 25 April 1848

I have a little informatin on my father-in-law and would like to share what I have. Sometime during 1879 or 1880, Patrick Joseph O'Connor (b. 1862 d. 1897) came to the USA from Ireland to New York City. He married (no date) Mary Ann Crowley (b. 1859 d. 1897). Both died in 1897. My husband's father Patrick Joseph (b.1893 d.1982) was placed in an orphanage in Manhattan that was run by nuns. Listed on his birth certificate was 2 living siblings but he does not remember them as he was only 4 years old at the time. His father was listed on the birth certificate (1893) as a detective but on the father's death certificate as laboror. Any help I can get will be greatly appreciated. Cheryl O'Connor