Anyone planning on a trip to Ireland in the near future will enjoy this site. Many helpful hints on what to expect: http://www.ireland-withpatpreston.com/ -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Pat (Patraigin) Connors, California Siochain Leat (peace be with you)

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These are the archives available to all rootsweb researchers. REGULAR ARCHIVES: These appear on the web page: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?surname=OCONNOR-TIPP You do NOT need a user name or password. They are "searchable" by keyword but are not "threaded". If I enter my Timothy O'CONNOR, I will get a list of all messages posted to the list where Timothy or O'CONNOR appears in the subject line. THREADED ARCHIVES: These appear on the web page: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/OCONNOR-TIPP-L/ You DO need a user name and password. (the archive will prompt you to enter one, if you don't have one there is a button to set create one, and you will have immediate access). You will use it each time you visit the archives (regardless of which mailing list). These are archives created by Rootsweb's Marc Nozell who has been working for over a year on an efficient and research-friendly archiving system for the mailing lists. What is "threaded"? When a message is posted to the list and no one answers it ("replies" to it), it is a single or unthreaded message. When a message is posted to the list, and one or more people answer it, reply to the reply, etc. - it becomes a "message thread" - that is, the messages are connected to each other (via the computer system). These archives were just established so there aren't archives earlier than around Feb. 1999. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Pat (Patraigin) Connors, California Siochain Leat (peace be with you) Researching: Connors/O'Connor, McEntee, Campbell, Flynn/O'Flynn, Smith, Phillips, Carter, Boyle, O'Rourke, Healey, Cullinan, Hoare, Todd, Owen, Booth, Gallagher, Fahey http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/o/n/Pat-Connors/ mailto:nymets@pcweb.net Volunteer of Random Genealogical Kindness at http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnraogk/index.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

My oconnors are from newport co tipp. father john and mother katherine ryan,children michael , john (birth date unknown) bridget 2-18-1836(married sam warren) mary11-6-1836 (married william owens) joanna 2-26-1840 (married vanallen) anne 5-19-1842 (married jeremiah joyce) peggy 8-8-1849 (married john warren) patrick 8-1-1852, catherine 2-13-1858. bridget, mary, and peggy show up on the 1880 census for jefferson co. ny married and with children. i think they may have come over about1873. anne died in limerick 1879. most of the information on the births i found in the catholic parish of newport. robin

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Here is the recent Time Magazine genealogy article. Lots of good stuff. http://cgi.pathfinder.com/time/magazine/toc/0,3392,0,00.html

In a message dated 4/8/99 4:23:38 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Pat Connors <nymets@pcweb.net> writes: > I have a large family of O'Connor/Connors who came over from Doon parish > between 1837 and 1870. They all settled in Troy NY (across the Hudson > River from Albany). Doon parish is located in both county Limerick and > county Tipperary but records are in Limerick which led to some confusion > for me, since my records have them from Tipperary. The Griffiths > Valuation have them from Cullenagh which I haven't found on any maps or > when searching on line for townlands. I would guess it is probably in > Tipperary. Pat, I suspected it was not in Tipperary, because the name was familiar to me. I checked my Cappamore History book and there it was. Besides the confusion of Doon being in both counties, here's another goody for you. Some years back (I think it was in the 70s, but will look it up) part of Doon was cut off and put into the parish of Cappamore. Cullenagh was in that part. (Barony of Owenybeg) In the 1826 Tithe applotment there was a Connor Connors in Cullenagh with 13 acres from landlord Donatus O'Brien. In the 1850 GV of Cullenagh there is a Stephen O'Connor leasing 20 acres from Stafford O'Brien and Timothy Connors leasing 14 perches from Stephen O'Connor. My Ryan cousin from MN (who has relatives in Troy area as do I) will be going to Doon in about 3 weeks to work on his Ryan/O'Connor/Rowles ancestry. We still have O'Connor relatives there. I will forward him your note. >I have records that show that my grandfather's father was > James O'Connor b ca 1849. I believe his father was Timothy O'Connor > married to Catherine (good possibility of being a Ryan). Timothy was > born 1810 and came to Troy in 1864 with James. Timothy's death > certificate shows his parents as Bryan O'Connor and Ann Gallagher. > > Some of Timothy's brothers/cousins who also settled in Troy are: > Redmund, William, Patrick, William, Edward and Winifred > (sister/cousin). They were all from Doon and migrated from 1837 to > 1870. > > I have currently orderd both the marriage cert for Timothy and Catherine > and the baptismal for James from the Doon parish to validify my > research. Looking for connections. See if you can get a map of townlands of Doon and Cappamore from the THU, so you can see the relationships to each other. If not, the FHC has some sketchmaps (rather simple and rough) of the outlines of the townlands of both parishes on microfiche # 6343065 (5 fiche). Anne

In a message dated 4/10/99 4:21:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Pat Connors <nymets@pcweb.net> writes: > I have just received all the baptismal info for the children of Peter > and his wife, Bridget Shanahan from Lissowen, Doon parish, > Limerick/Tipperary. The dates go from 1830 to 1848 for the following > children: Ellen, Catherine, William, Julia, Nora, Bridget, Mary, Judith > and James. If you think this may be part of your family, I will be glad > to share the info. This is the results of a search through the > Tipperary Heritage Unit. By the way, I gave them my credit card info on > Wednesday and received the search on Thursday. All done by email. Not > too bad, except I don't believe it is my family! IS ANYONE LOOKING FOR A JOHN SHANAHAN ? I keep bumping into a Shanahan family and I always suspected that they came from Doon but had no data. Luke Rowles (later Rowells) and Margaret O'Brien, who both lived in Cloonteen townland in Doon (now in Cappamore), married and came to America in 1849 and lived in Easton (township), Washington County near to John Shanahan and his wife (both born in Ireland) who had a daughter Margaret born in 1854. Luke and Margaret Rowles had a son George Benjamin born in 1850. They are in the 1850 census for Easton, both families are in the 1855 NY state Census in Easton. In the 1860 Census BOTH the Rowles and the Shanahans are in Waupun, WI. The town is split between two counties, Shanahans were in the North Ward which was in Fond du Lac County. The Rowles family (including Luke's father and 3 brothers and 2 sisters) were in Chester, south of town in Dodge County. St. Joseph's of Waupun was their church. Although I do not know exactly when these families arrived in Waupun (between 1853 and 1856), it is interesting to see that George B Rowles (b. 1850) was not baptised until they were settled there and his sponsors were John Shanaghan and Margaret Roles (father's sister). There may have been a conditional baptism until they arrived somewhere where there was a Catholic priest. Although they were farmers, many of the substantial Irish community worked on the building of the new state prison in Waupun. In 1860 Luke now has 6 children, but I know only of one child of the Shanahans: Margaret, who married George Benjamin Rowles/Rowells in 1881. She was a 26 year old seamstress. I would be very interested in acquiring more information aboiut this family and any others of the Irish community which traveled together from Doon to the Hudson River area of New York to Waupun, WI and many on to Goodhue County Minnesota. Descendants of John Shanahan 1 John Shanahan b: 1813 in Ireland d: 26 September 1913 in Waupun, Dodge, WI Burial: 1913 Calvary Cemetery, Waupun, Fond du Lac, WI .. +Margaret (Shanahan) b: 1822 in Ireland d: 4 April 1903 in Waupun, Dodge, WI Burial: 6 April 1903 Calvary Cemetery, Waupun, Fond du Lac, WI . 2 Margaret Shanahan b: 20 July 1854 in Union Village, Washington, NY d: 30 September 1953 in Beaver Dam, Dodge, WI Burial: Abt. 2 October 1953 Calvary Cem, Waupun, Fond du Lac, WI ..... +George Benjamin Rowells b: 1 September 1850 in Easton, Washington Co., NY m: 6 January 1881 in Waupun, Dodge, WI d: 10 October 1896 in Waupun, Dodge, WI Burial: 12 October 1896 Calvary Cemetery, Waupun, Fond du Lac, WI Can anyone contribute to this? Again, Doon is a parish which straddles the Limerick -Tipperary border. Mine were on the Lim side. Anne Lamb

WELDING LINKS: "SHIP ME ALL THOSE PASSENGERS . . ." by Myra Vanderpool Gormley, CG <myravg@prodigy.net> <http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~gormleym/> It's been another exciting week in the past lane on the Internet, but I don't think I can take many more like this. For years I have enjoyed helping online genealogists, sharing knowledge and experience I have acquired through the years as well as using my vast library of reference material to find answers or clues. I have always tried to be patient and remember that I once was a "newbie." I do not know if we can blame technology, but I think people are ruder online, or perhaps I am turning into a curmudgeon. However, I can not imagine a novice genealogist walking up to me and yelling: "HOW DO I RESEARCH MY LAST NAME. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE E-MAIL ME AND EXPLAIN IT!!" Typing in all caps (unless you have a visual problem) is considered yelling in e-mail -- and it is rude. Throwing in 20 bangers (exclamation points) tells me the inquirer is not only rude, but also impatient and probably would be ungrateful for genealogical material I have. Making demands of me when asking for a favor doesn't set too well either. I'm not sure how to respond to the request claiming that I put something on the Internet about the ships that brought people to the States and asking me to e-mail these to him. First, I didn't post anything anywhere about this subject and second, even if I had a clue to what he was talking about, does he want me to e-mail him the ships, the passengers, or the "something"? As co-editor of two popular e-zines (MISSING LINKS and ROOTSWEB REVIEW) that go to a total of about 300,000 subscribers, I can assure you that I receive many strange, and often interesting, requests. However, more and more of these requests require psychic powers. I've been searching for a mind-reading course at Virtual U. Perhaps that will do the trick. "Send me all you have on the VANDERPOOL line," a newfound cousin requested recently. I don't think so. I can't afford the freight to ship it to her, and she didn't offer to pay for it C.O.D. Besides my three private secretaries are on vacation and I don't have time to find everything in my files. In a quarter-of-a- century, a person can collect a lot of information on a family that has been in America 345 years. I don't mind sharing, but unreasonable requests turn me off. I saw a few more that I don't think I will respond to either. They include: -- "I have been working for two months on my ancestors and have them back to Noah. When will the Flood records be online?" -- "Would you send me the JPGs of our family crest -- the one scratched on the walls in that cave in southern France?" -- "I have a 125,786-word 9th-century manuscript about my Viking ancestors. However, it is in Norse. Where can I get it translated -- instantly and for free?" -- "Send me everything you have on that line -- I want to include it on my Web site." If you are not getting answers to your demands for genealogical information, try making reasonable, well-thought-out requests. Take a little time to educate yourself in methodology. You will be surprised at the difference it will make. Some of us curmudgeons have virtual trunks of treasures to share -- if you know the magic words. * * * * * Previously published by Julia M. Case and Myra Vanderpool Gormley, CG, Missing Links: A Weekly Newsletter for Genealogists, Vol. 4, No. 15, 9 April 1999. Please visit the MISSING LINKS Web page at <http://www.rootsweb.com/~mlnews/index.htm>.

I have just received all the baptismal info for the children of Peter and his wife, Bridget Shanahan from Lissowen, Doon parish, Limerick/Tipperary. The dates go from 1830 to 1848 for the following children: Ellen, Catherine, William, Julia, Nora, Bridget, Mary, Judith and James. If you think this may be part of your family, I will be glad to share the info. This is the results of a search through the Tipperary Heritage Unit. By the way, I gave them my credit card info on Wednesday and received the search on Thursday. All done by email. Not too bad, except I don't believe it is my family! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Pat (Patraigin) Connors, California Siochain Leat (peace be with you) Researching: Connors/O'Connor, McEntee, Campbell, Flynn/O'Flynn, Smith, Phillips, Carter, Boyle, O'Rourke, Healey, Cullinan, Hoare, Todd, Owen, Booth, Gallagher, Fahey http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/o/n/Pat-Connors/ mailto:nymets@pcweb.net Volunteer of Random Genealogical Kindness at http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnraogk/index.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Like Pat, my O'Connor's also wound up in Troy, NY. My great grandfather, TIMOTHY O'CONNOR, came to Troy in the 1860's from Nenagh, Tipperary. His brother Michael, came to Troy a few years later. Details that I know are: Tim's parents were: WILLIAM O'CONNOR CATHERINE GLEASON Information on Timothy: Born: Dec. 1836 (Family always talked about Nenagh so may have been born there) Married in Troy, NY on November 28 1872 to CATHERINE McCORMICK from Dunbin, County Louth. Died in Troy, NY on August 8, 1912 Information on Michael: Born: 1845 Newport, Tipperary. Information on O'Rourke name: The O'Connor family in Troy had some relation to the O'Rourke's on Pound Street, Newport. There was a Michael and a niece Catherine. Letters were received up to the 1960's. Nothing else is known about the O'Rourke's. Would like to make some further connections with the the O'Connor, Gleason and O'Rourke names in Tipperary. Regards, Billl McGrath

It is time to wake everyone up! How about a roll call. Since we are 50 strong, how about everyone putting up what O'Connor/Connors you are researching. I will start it off with mine. I have a large family of O'Connor/Connors who came over from Doon parish between 1837 and 1870. They all settled in Troy NY (across the Hudson River from Albany). Doon parish is located in both county Limerick and county Tipperary but records are in Limerick which led to some confusion for me, since my records have them from Tipperary. The Griffiths Valuation have them from Cullenagh which I haven't found on any maps or when searching on line for townlands. I would guess it is probably in Tipperary. I have records that show that my grandfather's father was James O'Connor b ca 1849. I believe his father was Timothy O'Connor married to Catherine (good possibility of being a Ryan). Timothy was born 1810 and came to Troy in 1864 with James. Timothy's death certificate shows his parents as Bryan O'Connor and Ann Gallagher. Some of Timothy's brothers/cousins who also settled in Troy are: Redmund, William, Patrick, William, Edward and Winifred (sister/cousin). They were all from Doon and migrated from 1837 to 1870. I have currently orderd both the marriage cert for Timothy and Catherine and the baptismal for James from the Doon parish to validify my research. Looking for connections.

Will Diane, glass city get in touch with the list again......I have some further knowledge on the Bryan vs. Brian spelling topic that was raised.

Ann Gallahger married Bryan O'Connor, lived in Doon area of Limerick/Tipperary. One son, Timothy b 1810. Other children (younger) may have included Redmund, Patrick, William, John, Edward, Jeremiah, Winifred. All of children migrated to Troy NY from 1837 to 1864. No evidence at this time that Ann and Bryan emigrated. Looking for connections. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Pat (Patraigin) Connors, California Siochain Leat (peace be with you) Researching: Connors/O'Connor, McEntee, Campbell, Flynn/O'Flynn, Smith, Phillips, Carter, Boyle, O'Rourke, Healey, Cullinan, Hoare, Todd, Owen, Booth, Gallagher, Fahey http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/o/n/Pat-Connors/ mailto:nymets@pcweb.net Volunteer of Random Genealogical Kindness at http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnraogk/index.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

An old memory just occurred to me. When we wre in Ireland in 1991we stopped at a rectory and talked to a priest re: records relating to Wm. O'Connor. As I watched he consulted his computer looking at Connor And Connors. I mentioned that we were looking for an O'Connor. He then related that the "O's" were never entered into his records because they were very common or some such reason which I now forget. I guess what I am thinking is that if you are looking for anO'Leary, for instance, and come across a Leary which fits into your search, you may want to follow thru with it. this is what took place with me in this one rectory and may or may not be a common practice anywhere else.

I found a few Connors I don,t have a connection with that I know of but someone may have [ at Rock Co. Hist. Soc., Wisconsin] Connors, Anna M. St. Joseph,s Cemetery, Fulton Township 1886-1979 Connors, Edward...Fassett Cemetery, Edgerton ,Wi. d.o.b. unk. died 1828 [ 1928 ?]-----this was on their record Connors, George H., St. Joe's Cem., Fulton Twp.,1887-1965 Connors, Tom, Rock Co. Health Care Cemetery [used to be called poor farm] d.o.b. unk..........died Jan 13, 1917 All for now....Brian Connors, Wisconsin

Just wanted to say thanks for the overwhelming reply to my query re: the existence of Ballyvadin, Co. Tipperary. It does exist , my next problem is to locate it precisely as I am going there in June. If anyone has a reference point such as S.E. of Cashel or whatever , please advise. Thanks again for the large response to my initial question......seems like there is a tremendous amount of nice people out there. Brian Connors...Wisconsin

In a message dated 3/24/99 6:22:15 AM Pacific Standard Time, OCONNOR-TIPP-D- request@rootsweb.com writes: > Does anyone know of a town in County Tipperary by the name of Ballyvaden ? > This is the best I can come up with after looking at a 100 yr. old headstone. > > This is the burial site of William Connors [orig. O'Connor] born 1822. My > map > doesn't show it . > Will sincerely appreciate your help. > Brian Connors...Wisconsin > How about these, found at http://www.ireland.com/ancestor/index.html? Placename Ballypadeen County Tipperary Civil Parish -St. Patricksrock Poor Law Union -Cashel Barony -Middlethird OR Placename-Ballyhaden CountyTipperary Civil Parish-Borrisokane Poor Law Union-Borrisokane Barony-Lower Ormond OR Placename-.Ballynaveen CountyTipperary Civil Parish-Emly Poor Law Union-Tipperary Barony-Clanwilliam Or you could try some other combinations of the letters. Anne

Does anyone know of a town in County Tipperary by the name of Ballyvaden ? This is the best I can come up with after looking at a 100 yr. old headstone. This is the burial site of William Connors [orig. O'Connor] born 1822. My map doesn't show it . Will sincerely appreciate your help. Brian Connors...Wisconsin

I had a little time this morning and surfed the net. I would like to share some of the sites I found: Tipperary Heritage Unit, can order baptism, marriage and death records http://ireland.iol.ie/~thu/ Maura's Tipperary Page, many good researching tips and links http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip/tipperary.htm Ireland GenWeb Tipperary County Page, excellent site, good map of No. Tipperary, good links http://www.cyberbeach.net/~mkelly/iregenweb.htm GenUki County Tipperary Page, this is okay not as informative as above, but has good links http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/irl/TIP/index.html#Description Cindis Ireland List, you could get lost here, many links http://www.CyndisList.com/ireland.htm -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Pat (Patraigin) Connors, California Siochain Leat (peace be with you) Researching: Connors/O'Connor, McEntee, Campbell, Flynn/O'Flynn, Smith, Phillips, Carter, Boyle, O'Rourke, Healey, Cullinan, Hoare, Todd, Owen, Booth http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/o/n/Pat-Connors/ mailto:nymets@pcweb.net Volunteer of Random Genealogical Kindness at http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnraogk/index.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~