Sharing some new information just acquired. John O'Connor in New York City - first knowledge of him in 1870. By 1895 he is owner of "O'CONNOR PRINTING COMPANY" which had locations all over Manhattan. Had at least two sons, John J. and Thomas. Wife might be Bridget Meahan/ Meehan. May have deceased around 1903 - 1904. He had a brother Michael, also in Manhattan. Anyone researching this group? Best wishes to all :)

Will Diane, glass city get in touch with the list again......I have some further knowledge on the Bryan vs. Brian spelling topic that was raised.

I guess it is my turn now. I am seeking to find a parish in Co Mayo for this familly as well as the offspring of Martin O'Connor and Margaret Muldowney. Some of their children are: Winifred O'Connor, b. Sept 1841 in Co Mayo. She married John Stack in Peoria, Illinois in 1855. Hannorah O'Connor, b. 1842 in Co Mayo. She married a John Priest in Peoria, Illinois, circa 1860's. Allise O'Connor, b. circa 1846. She married a Daniel Crimmins, circa 1870's but location unknown. Allise died in Peoria, Illinois in 1922. I also think that a brother to these girls may have been named Paterick O'Connor who was married to Mary Kelly. This family also was in Peoria, Illinois. Thanks for the help. Peggy Stack Kimbell [email protected]

Hello- These are my O'Connors. Anyone see any connections? Also, does anyone know anything about The Neale? I've visited Co. Mayo's home page and it talks about Balinrobe, but I don't know what The Neale is. A suburb, or an estate? Any ideas? -- Erin P.S. sorry I don't really have any dates on most of these people, but if I had to guess, I'd say that Willima and Catherine lived in the mid to late 1800's. William O'Connor and Catherine Biggins : Married and settled at The Neale, Loughmas Road, Balinrobe, Co. Mayo, Ireland. They had eleven children: Patrick: Went to Cork, married and had two sons who remained in Cork. James: Remained at home and as far as is known, did not marry. John: Remained at home and as far as is known, did not marry. Catherine: entered the Convent. Edward: Went to London, where he married an English girl. They went to New York where they had six children. (see below) Mary: Stayed at home to take care of their mother. Denis: Went to London for a while. Left for New York where he married and had one daughter. (see below) Martin: Went to New York where he married and had six children. (see below) Agnes: Became a Governess. Spent approximately 40 years in South America, specifically Portugal, and was fluent in six languages. She died in a retirement home in Dublin at about 98 years of age. William: Went to New York for a short time and then returned to Ireland. Anthony: Remained in Ireland and as far as is know, did not marry. Edward O'Connor (son of William and Catherine) Had six childre: Fred: Traveled all over the world and, as far as is known, never married. Edwin: May have married and lived outside of New York City. Henry: Went to Texas where he married and had either three or five boys. Two of the boys where twins, Pat and Mike. Last mention has them still living in Texas. Catherine: Known as Cissy married and had two boys and a girl. Josephine: Married and had one daughter who was a nurse in Virginia. William: Married and had two children, Mary Regina and William, Jr.. Mary had six children and Will had two. Denis O'Connor (son if William and Catherine) Had one child: Helen: Helen, known to the family as Nellie never married and has been living in Los Angeles since 1948 (she may be dead by now). Martin O'Connor (son of William and Catherine) Had six children. Martin is my great grandfather. Martin, Jr.: After serving in the Army in WWI, he went to California where he married, but died shortly there after in an accident. He had no children. Monsignor William R. O'Connor: Taught at St. Joseph's Seminary, Yonkers, New York for twenty two years. Became pastor of St. John the Evangelist Chruch in New York City around 1954. He died in 1974. He also taught at Columbia University and at Notre Dame. Was a president of the American Catholic Theological Association. Richard: Married and had three children, Paul, Catherine and Richard. Each child married and had three children. Richard died in 1965. Arthur: After his wife, Marion, died, he married Mildred, but they had no children. Arthur died in 1978. Frank: Married in Chicago and had three children (see below). Mary: Married George Callahan in 1966. They had no children. Frank O'Connor (grandson of William and Catherine) Had three children. Frank is my grandfather. He married Helen Beckwith and lived in Chicago for most of his life. He died in 1964. Patricia: The oldest, she attended the Art Institute of Chicago and later moved, with her husband James Kirby, to Norfolk, Virginia. Jim died in 1992. They were both accomplished artists. Pat now works as a museum curator. They had four children: Jeanine, Joanna, Kenneth, and Cecilie. Martin: Marty spent most of his adult life living in New York. He went to Purdue University and earned a degree as an engineer. He married Carol and they had three children: Elizabeth, Brian, and Craig. Laurence: An architect, he now lives in Indianapolis with his wife Harriett Hook. They have two children: Erin (me) and Colin. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ erin o'connor 513-841-1327 cellular/pager: 560-2697 (or 414-2391) [email protected] @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

Genealogy is my pastime, I shall not stray It maketh me to lie down and examine tombstones It leadeth me into still courthouses It restoreth my Ancestral Knowledge It leadeth me in the paths of census records and ships' passenger lists for my surnames' sake Yea, though I walk through the shadows of research libraries and microfilm readers I shall fear no discouragement, for a strong urge is within me The curiosity and motivation, they comforteth me It demandeth preparation of storage space for the acquisition of countless documents It anointest my head with burning midnight oil My family group sheets runneth over Surely, birth, marriage, and death dates shall follow me all the days of my life And I shall dwell in the house of a family history-seeker forever. --unknown-

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_922662155_boundary Content-ID: <[email protected]_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I don't normally send this without a thorough check and this one has been checked several times. While it is NOT YET in our system, it can happen very fast. please be aware and rmember to not open anything you don't reconize. Or better yet, check the various virus web sites before downloading anything you are wary of. As of this moment, it appears to be within the Indiana University System, for those of you on Louisiana, Texas, and several other mailing list NOT within the Rootsweb Mailing luist, it means you must be very cautious. I happen to be on several of the Indiana. University lists, so will try not to let this get past me. However, if you happen to recieve this virus from someone, like the "Happy99", they are probably not even aware they have it until you POLITELY notify them. The notice says not to even open the e-mail, this is stupid and CAN"T affect anything, downloading the program WILL. Just be aware, we got through "HAPPY99" , we can get through this. Ley 1. This comes from a credible source - our main computer people. 2. This does NOT mean the lists are getting infected. 3. Before people get confused again, let me clarify their message. They say the email message with the subject noted has an attached file. They say don't even open the message, just delete it. Opening the email message WILL NOT spread the virus. Opening the attached Word file WILL spread the virus. However, their advice to just delete the email message itself is sound advice, because some people will open the email, then be tempted to open the Word file just to see what happens (sort of like the apple in the Garden of Eden). They are saying, "don't tempt fate, delete the email message." Good advice. 4. You'll see that CNet has information on this. That implies this is not limited to IU's mail system (which is logical). -------- -----Original Message----- From: IU Information Technology Security Office Sent: Saturday, March 27, 1999 1:26 AM Subject: E-mail virus/worm spreading rapidly at IU If you receive an e-mail message with the subject: "Important Message From ..." Do NOT open it, and DELETE it immediately. The message contains a Microsoft Word file attachment, which contains a dangerous macro "worm" (similar to a virus). If you open this file, the macro will send multiple copies of the file and worm to many other users, hence causing it to spread extremely rapidly. It will also infect your machine with a version of itself that will be present in any new Microsoft Word documents you create. This is not a hoax. The Indiana University IT Security Office and UITS have determined that the Microsoft Word macro "worm" is loose on the IU-Bloomington and IUPUI campus. This worm is also infecting other sites around the world. See the last section of this message for further technical details. WHAT WE'RE DOING We have reconfigured the main IUB and IUPUI mail relay systems to attempt to detect possible copies of the macro, and to return the message to the sender rather than allowing it be delivered. Although this may be limiting some legitimate mail, it has arrested the propagation outside of the campus Microsoft Exchange systems, which many faculty and staff use as their primary e-mail service. We disabled the Microsoft Exchange system for a period early Friday evening in order to temporarily halt propagation of the worm, and to allow time for a solution to be found to the problem. The Microsoft Exchange system will be returning to service shortly, although it may be necessary to configure it to permit sending messages to only one recipient at a time. We hope to have access to a better solution sometime over the weekend. Symantec (the company responsible for Norton AntiVirus) is working on protection and "disinfectants" for this problem. Once this update is available, we will send out another message to all IU e-mail addresses notifying users of the steps they should take to "disinfect" a machine that has been affected. In the mean time, if you haven't already, you should download and install Norton AntiVirus as soon as possible. It is available from SoftServe, or from IUWare: (this applies only to IU people) FURTHER TECHNICAL DETAILS A worm replicates itself by trying to send multiple copies of itself to other recipients, who, in turn, execute the worm and do the same. This particular worm is in the form of a Microsoft Word macro. An unsuspecting user receives a message with an attached Word document that contains the macro. If the user opens the document and allows the macro to execute (either by having disabled this protection in MS Word, or by confirming on a dialog box), the macro will execute and propagate itself. This macro also modifies your default document template to cause all new documents that you write to contain the worm. If you later send someone one of these documents, the recipient could start the propagation again, using your document as the base. HOW TO FIND OUT MORE C/Net's news.com has a story on this virus/worm: http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,34334,00.html?st.ne.fd.gif.e Updates specific to the situation at Indiana University will be provided at the following location: http://www.indiana.edu/~itiu/ --part0_922662155_boundary Content-ID: <[email protected]_out.mail.INDIANA.EDU.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from rly-zb01.mx.aol.com (rly-zb01.mail.aol.com [172.31.41.1]) by air-zb05.mail.aol.com (v58.16) with SMTP; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 17:09:55 -0500 Received: from LIME.EASE.LSOFT.COM (lime.ease.lsoft.com [209.119.1.41]) by rly-zb01.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id RAA21023; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 17:09:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from PEAR.EASE.LSOFT.COM (209.119.0.19) by LIME.EASE.LSOFT.COM (LSMTP for Digital Unix v1.1b) with SMTP id <[email protected]>; 28 Mar 1999 17:08:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU by LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8c) with spool id 18002580 for [email protected]; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 17:09:37 -0500 Received: from snorkel.uits.indiana.edu by listserv.indiana.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1a) with SMTP id <[email protected]>; 28 Mar 1999 17:09:36 -0500 Received: from maryland.exchange.indiana.edu (maryland.exchange.indiana.edu [129.79.6.163]) by snorkel.uits.indiana.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1/1.1IUPO) with ESMTP id RAA17250 for <[email protected]>; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 17:09:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by maryland.exchange.indiana.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <HY73XPFP>; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 17:09:36 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Message-ID: <[email protected]ana.edu> Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 17:09:36 -0500 Reply-To: "Stephens, Larry V" <[email protected]> Sender: SuperList of Genealogy Lists <[email protected]> From: "Stephens, Larry V" <[email protected]> Subject: FW: E-mail virus/worm spreading rapidly at IU...from the lists ow ner To: [email protected] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable 1. This comes from a credible source - our main computer people. 2. This does NOT mean the lists are getting infected. 3. Before people get confused again, let me clarify their message. They sa= y the email message with the subject noted has an attached file. They say don't even open the message, just delete it. Opening the email message WILL NOT spread the virus. Opening the attached Word file WILL spread the virus. However, their advice to just delete the email message itself is sound advice, because some people will open the email, then be tempted to open the Word file just to see what happens (sort of like the apple in the Garden of Eden). They are saying, "don't tempt fate, delete the email message." Good advice. 4. You'll see that CNet has information on this. That implies this is not limited to IU's mail system (which is logical). -------- -----Original Message----- From: IU Information Technology Security Office Sent: Saturday, March 27, 1999 1:26 AM Subject: E-mail virus/worm spreading rapidly at IU If you receive an e-mail message with the subject: "Important Message From ..." Do NOT open it, and DELETE it immediately. The message contains a Microsoft Word file attachment, which contains a dangerous macro "worm" (similar to a virus). If you open this file, the macro will send multiple copies of the file and worm to many other users, hence causing it to spread extremely rapidly. It will also infect your machine with a version of itself that will be present in any new Microsoft Word documents you create. This is not a hoax. The Indiana University IT Security Office and UITS have determined that the Microsoft Word macro "worm" is loose on the IU-Bloomington and IUPUI campus. This worm is also infecting other sites around the world. See the last section of this message for further technical details. WHAT WE'RE DOING We have reconfigured the main IUB and IUPUI mail relay systems to attempt to detect possible copies of the macro, and to return the message to the sender rather than allowing it be delivered. Although this may be limiting some legitimate mail, it has arrested the propagation outside of the campus Microsoft Exchange systems, which many faculty and staff use as their primary e-mail service. We disabled the Microsoft Exchange system for a period early Friday evening in order to temporarily halt propagation of the worm, and to allow time for a solution to be found to the problem. The Microsoft Exchange system will be returning to service shortly, although it may be necessary to configure it to permit sending messages to only one recipient at a time. We hope to have access to a better solution sometime over the weekend. Symantec (the company responsible for Norton AntiVirus) is working on protection and "disinfectants" for this problem. Once this update is available, we will send out another message to all IU e-mail addresses notifying users of the steps they should take to "disinfect" a machine that has been affected. In the mean time, if you haven't already, you should download and install Norton AntiVirus as soon as possible. It is available from SoftServe, or from IUWare: (this applies only to IU people) FURTHER TECHNICAL DETAILS A worm replicates itself by trying to send multiple copies of itself to other recipients, who, in turn, execute the worm and do the same. This particular worm is in the form of a Microsoft Word macro. An unsuspecting user receives a message with an attached Word document that contains the macro. 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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_922624059_boundary Content-ID: <[email protected]_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Received this address off another list. I just ordered copies of census, passenger list, and military records forms at this location. Thought it would benefit all, and perhaps speed up the process! http://www.outfitters.com/illinois/history/civil/natf.html You'll find all the forms listed. You can order them by e-mail. (Much quicker than snail mail). Desiree --part0_922624059_boundary Content-ID: <[email protected]_out.mail.southwind.net.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from rly-ya03.mx.aol.com (rly-ya03.mail.aol.com [172.18.144.195]) by air-ya05.mx.aol.com (v58.16) with SMTP; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 09:47:01 -0500 Received: from onyx.southwind.net (onyx.southwind.net [206.53.103.2]) by rly-ya03.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id JAA02897 for <[email protected]>; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 09:46:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from Default (ict72.southwind.net [206.53.100.72]) by onyx.southwind.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA29165 for <[email protected]>; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 08:46:58 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <[email protected]> Comments: Authenticated sender is <[email protected]> From: "Juanita Alloway" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 08:46:58 +0000 Subject: Re: Passenger List - Question Priority: normal In-reply-to: <[email protected]> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.54) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Desiree - it's "Order for Copies of Ship Passenger Arrival Records," NATF Form 81. Go to: http://www.outfitters.com/illinois/history/civil/natf.html You'll find all the forms listed. You can order them by e-mail. (Much quicker than snail mail). Juanita A. > Juanita, > > What form for requesting a copy of the passenger list? That's a new one for > me! > > Desiree > > --part0_922624059_boundary--

In a message dated 3/27/99 9:22:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, OCONNOR-D- [email protected] writes: << guess what I am thinking is that if you are looking for anO'Leary, for instance, and come across a Leary which fits into your search, you may want to follow thru with it. this is what took place with me in this one rectory and may or may not be a common practice anywhere else. >> This is very common.... that's why no one doing this research should ever get locked on to exact spelling.... so many Irish emigrants especially in the early to mid 1800s were uneducated peasants and couldn't read or write it was almost always ***the prerogative of the data taker*** to decide on spelling.... and if they were part of the British gov or establishment the more likely the names were anglicized not to sound so Irish. I wrote the following to another researcher recently, but I think it addresses your questions also... Note: In my Heffron family the same man listed in different records like this: Griffiths Valuation: Rupert Heffernan Parent:Robert Hefferon Parent: Hubert Heveran US Census Robert Hefron He never changed it, he couldnt read or write. Its the information takers that experimented phonetically with what they heard... the variation had more to do with the information taker and whether they spoke Irish and or English as my GG grandfather Heffron spoke Irish only. In the Griffiths Valuation which was the British Gov.... all my O'Connor relatives were listed as Connor... no one in our family ever referred to themselves that way... but there were no O' names in the part of Kerry I was researching because the Brits wanted to anglicanize the Irish and taking off the O was one way to do that besides forcing them to change thier language and their religion. But those very same people listed in the Griffiths were all O'Connor in the church records of births and marriages... at least the Priests were Irish and many spoke Gaelic so they were more likely, nota always to spell the name right. All in all these were all approximations of the Gaelic names were they were orignally from. I am not a professional but there are a few things I have learned about doing this research in Ireland 1) You CANNOT go by exact spellings 2) You CANNOT go by exact dates from various record sources 3) You need to be creative and flexible when deciphering the relevance of either! As far as your relative not knowing their birthrate or the spelling or their names or even where they came form...YES ITS MORE THAN POSSIBLE; IT HAPPENED A LOT.... especially if they were Catholic and from the western areas of Ireland.(see more about Penal Laws below) You must realize that many of the Irish who emigrated in the mid to late 1800s were uneducated peasants who could not read nor write and may have only spoken Gaelic. Think how hard it would be to remember a date if you never wrote it or saw it written or couldn't read a calendar... Note ... anyone who has researched census records will tell you about the variations in spelling and dates of info provided by people ... professionals will tell you not to go by the dates or ages given they could be off as much as 10 years (before and after). Bottom line... I would go by the date and months you have and not worry about the discrepancy in the years ... that is more likely where someone's memory is faulty, unless it was taken contemporaneously ... and remember there is always transcription errors from when it was originally transcribed to whoever copied the information <<This database also listed a Maurice McElligott being married to a Margaret Gallivan (not Galvin).>> this isn't necessarily a discrepancy probably just a variation on spelling <<The death certificate in my possesion from Boston, MA shows Ellen as being 77 in 1944 when she passed away, this then would indicate her date of birth as being 1867 but she had her first child in 1883-84 so was she 16/17???>> Death cert are the worst things to base a birth date by!!! ... The further you go from the original date the more likely the chance of error and especially with memory. When someone dies other people give the info (sons, husbands people not likely to be present at the original even of birth)! And they can be wrong or be going by misinformation themselves. For the same person's birthdate I had a range of 1820 by gravestone markers, 1823 by census dates and 1822 by obituary...is one more accurate than the other? None was taken from contemporary sources ... but the date my relative gave me when pouring over the birth records in Latin at the parish in Ireland said 1821... So which date do you go by?... 1821 ... its most likely to be accurate. Remember ... think of the source of the information ... who gave it? Who took it down? did the person giving it speak English or Gaelic? Did the information recorder speak English or Gaelic? Was the information recorded at the time or form someone's memory years later? did people lie about their ages? .. the further the time is from the original event the more chance of error.!!!!! If you are interested in the history of events as to why our ancestors were forced to lose their language and how so many were uneducated peasants or why they may not have been able to read or write or why they may have changed their names or their religions.... read a bit of this: "Penal Laws In 1695 harsh penal laws were enforced, known as the 'popery code': Catholics were forbidden from buying land, bringing their children up as Catholics, and from entering the forces or the law. All Irish culture, music and education was banned. The religion and culture were kept alive by secret open-air masses and illegal outdoor schools, known as 'hedge schools', but by 1778, Catholics owned barely 5% of the land. By the time of the census of 1841, only 5% of land ownership was in the hands of the native Irish and so the Irish were impoverished, landless and leaderless by the eve of the famine. "In the early years of the 18th century the ruling Protestants in Ireland passed a series of "Penal Laws" designed to strip the "backwards" Catholic population of remaining land, positions of influence and civil rights. Catholics could no longer practice law, run for elected office, purchase land, or own property (such as horses) valued at more than 5 pounds. By 1778 Irish Catholics would own a meager 5% of Irish land. Furthermore, the Catholic educational system was outlawed and priests who did not conform to the laws could be branded on the face or castrated. As a result, much of Catholic church services and education was forced underground, to operate only under extreme secrecy. Professor Lecky a British Protestant and ardent British sympathizer, said in his “History of Ireland in the 18th Century” that the object of the Penal Laws was threefold: “To deprive Catholics of all civil life; to reduce them to a condition of extreme, brutal ignorance; and, to disassociate them from the soil.” Lecky said, “He might with absolute justice, substitute Irish for Catholic,” and added a fourth objective: “To expatriate the race.” Most scholars agree that the Penal Laws helped set the stage for the injustices that occurred during The Great Famine and fueled the fires of racism that were directed against the Irish by the British. Lecky outlined the Penal Laws as follows: The Irish Catholic was forbidden the exercise of his religion. He was forbidden to receive education. He was forbidden to enter a profession. He was forbidden to hold public office. He was forbidden to engage in trade or commerce. He was forbidden to live in a corporate town or within five miles thereof. He was forbidden to own a horse of greater value than five pounds. He was forbidden to own land. He was forbidden to lease land. He was forbidden to accept a mortgage on land in security for a loan. He was forbidden to vote. He was forbidden to keep any arms for hisprotection. He was forbidden to hold a life annuity. He was forbidden to buy land from a Protestant. He was forbidden to receive a gift of land from a Protestant. He was forbidden to inherit land from a Protestant. He was forbidden to inherit anything from a Protestant. He was forbidden to rent any land that was worth more than 30 shillings a year. He was forbidden to reap from his land any profit exceeding a third oftherent. He could not be guardian to a child. He could not, when dying, leave his infant children under Catholic guardianship. He could not attend Catholic worship. He was compelled by law to attend Protestant worship. He could not himself educate his child. He could not send his child to a Catholic teacher. He could not employ a Catholic teacher to come to his child. He could not send his child abroad to receive education. " Surprise information from Waterlilys about our name! (Surprise to me anyway!) Dear O' researchers, I just found out something about our name that I wanted to share with you. Ready to be surprised? There are numerous misusages of Gaelic to English, the most pervasive of which is the apostrophe in the family names such as O'Connor! Get this: The Irish noun Ó (with an accent above) means descendant..... It has been and is confused with the contraction of the preposition "of ", as in jack o'lantern. Bottom line is, our names never should have had an apostrophe! --------------------------------- Lastly... a lot of the problems of Identifying your family that you mentioned I went thru myself... please read my search story... you might get some clues and hopefully some encouragement! http://members.aol.com/waterlilys/MySearch.html hope you find this helpful! slán, (thats Irish for good-bye) mary in orlando ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/waterlilys/index.html">A Dingle, County KerryIreland, Genealogy Helper</A> http://members.aol.com/waterlilys/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlker/index.html">Kerry</A> http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlker/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/waterlilys/Ancestors.html">O'CONNOR Ancestors </A> http://members.aol.com/waterlilys/Ancestors.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Ithaca/7974/Ballyferriter"> Ballyferriter Genealogy</A> *by Wayne Mansfield* http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Ithaca/7974/Ballyferriter ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SHARE YOUR STUFF! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ POST YOUR INFO ON THE MAILING LIST AND THE QUERY BOARD: <A HREF="http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Ireland/Kerry">Kerry Ireland Queries Message Index</A> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Ireland/Kerry ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Send only the word subscribe in the body of an email to: [email protected] to join the Kerry List. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

An old memory just occurred to me. When we wre in Ireland in 1991we stopped at a rectory and talked to a priest re: records relating to Wm. O'Connor. As I watched he consulted his computer looking at Connor And Connors. I mentioned that we were looking for an O'Connor. He then related that the "O's" were never entered into his records because they were very common or some such reason which I now forget. I guess what I am thinking is that if you are looking for anO'Leary, for instance, and come across a Leary which fits into your search, you may want to follow thru with it. this is what took place with me in this one rectory and may or may not be a common practice anywhere else.

Peter, I accidentaly deleted the email where you were talking about passenger list films. Trying to remember what you asked.... You can rent films at your local FHC (Family History Center - Mormans). Look in the white pages phone book under Church of Jesus Christ of the Ladder Day Saints. I think you said your family emigrated to Va and Md... just a thought.... that doesnt tell you what port they entered... and could have been merely an end destination, they still could have come in thru the major ports and traveled on. Also there's places on the internet to search where others have transcribed shiplists... insluding this one where you can plug in a date or name into the search engine: <A HREF="http://istg.rootsweb.com/index1.html">ISTG - Ships Passenger Lists </A> .... http://istg.rootsweb.com/index1.html also Cyndi's list is a good place to look also: <A HREF="http://www.cyndislist.com/ships.htm">Cyndi's List - Ships, Passenger Lists & Immigration</A> http://www.cyndislist.com/ships.htm and here: <A HREF="http://home.att.net/~arnielang/ship04.html">Guide to Immigration Records and Ship's Passenger Lists-Section 4.0</A> http://home.att.net/~arnielang/ship04.html Did you know about this Peter O'Connor? An O'Connor Olympian & Patriot 1906... in that year's olympics this incident happened at the presentation of a gold medal for the "Hop Step and Jump" (triple jump) to a Brit : " WHEN THE UNION JACK WAS HOISTED AT THE PRESENTATION OF THE MEDAL .... He (the gold medal winner) CLIMBED THE FLAGSTAFF AND REPLACED IT WITH THE FLAG OF HIS NATIVE LAND... IRELAND. THE FIRST IRISH FLAG TO BE FLOWN FOR AN OLYMPIC VICTORY WAS THERE TO PROCLAIM HE HAD WON FOR IRELAND, RATHER THAN FOR BRITAIN. In 1906 this same gold medalist, won a WORLD RECORD for the LONG JUMP." >From a history of the O'Connors of Ireland.... that Irish Patriot mentioned above, the Olympic gold medalist, was a Peter O'Connor of Thurles Ireland. Triple Jump Peter O'Connor, GBR/IRL Mark: 46- 21/4 1906 Athens hope you find this helpful! slán, (thats Irish for good-bye) mary in orlando ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/waterlilys/index.html">A Dingle, County KerryIreland, Genealogy Helper</A> http://members.aol.com/waterlilys/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlker/index.html">Kerry</A> http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlker/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/waterlilys/Ancestors.html">O'CONNOR Ancestors </A> http://members.aol.com/waterlilys/Ancestors.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Ithaca/7974/Ballyferriter"> Ballyferriter Genealogy</A> *by Wayne Mansfield* http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Ithaca/7974/Ballyferriter ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SHARE YOUR STUFF! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Post your query on the Kerry boards and the Kerry Mailing list! <A HREF="http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Ireland/Kerry">Kerry Ireland Queries Message Index</A> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Ireland/Kerry ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Send only the word subscribe in the body of an email to: [email protected] to join the Kerry List. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Barnes: page 4/ April 25, 1859/ Ellen Connor dau of Ty. Commor & Mgt Breen/ baptised April 27, 1859/ witness Jerh. Connor & Ellen Brosnan Brehig: May 20, 1859/ Mgt Connor dau of Corn. Connor & Mgt Brosnan/ bpt May 24, 1859/ witnesses Hugh Connor & Ellen Brosnan page 9/ Feb 10, 1860/ Mgt Shea, dau of John Shea & Bridget Connor/ bpt Feb 12, 1860/ witnessesPtk. Morris & Eliza Brown page 46/ Nov 24, 1864/ Mgt Connor dau of Daniel Connor & Nora Kearney/ bpt Nov 26, 1864 witnesses William Horan & Mgt Crean Ballyplymouth: page 5/Aug 1, 1859/ Hannah Griffin dau of Ptk. Griffin & Hannah O'Connor/ bpt July24, 1859 (transposed from record?)/ witnesses Ptk and Hannah O'Connor page 8/ Dec 26, 1859/ Michael Moriarty, son of John Moriarty and Nano Connor/ bpt Jan 6, 1860/ witnessesThos. Griffin & Cath. Connor page 16/ Jan 5, 1861/ Michael Griffin, son of Ptk. Griffin & Hannah O'Connor/ bpt Jan 8, 1861/ witnesses Daniel Griffin & Hannah Brosnan page 44/ Aug 17, 1864/ Mary Connor dau of John Connor & Mary Galvin/ bpt Aug 20, 1864/ witnesses Richard & Hannah Burke page 66/ May 13, 1867/ Julia Murphy dau of John Murphy & Cath. Connor/ bpt May 5, 1867 (?)/ witnesses Michael Connor & Cath. Horan page 77/ Nov 14, 1868/ Nora Murphy, dau of John Murphy & Cath. Connor/ bpt Nov 21, 1868/ witnesses Jas. Hogan & Hannah Ginaw Bawanask: page 9/ Feb 10, 1860/ Ellen Lenihan, dau of Ptk. Lenihan & Cath. Bradley/ bpt Feb 12, 1860/ witnesses Daniel and Ellen Lenihan Bawnaskehy: page 17/ April 1, 1861/ Patrick Linehan, son of Patrick Linehan & Cath. Bradley/ bpt April 3, 1861/ witnesses Daniel Linehan & Nora Kelleher Banaskeha: page 29/ Aug 9, 1862/ Corn. O'Connor son of Corn. O'Connor & Mary Mara/ bpt Aug 10, 1862/ witnesses Edm. Burke & Bridget Ginna Barravehy: page 32/ Jan 10, 1863/ John Mannix, son of Edm. Mannix & Mgt Connor/ bpt Jan 14, 1863/ witnesses Ty. O'Connor & Mary Mannix page 42/ Feb 26, 1864/ Michael Mannix, son of Edm. & Mgt Connor/ bpt March 1, 1864/ witnesses David Connor & Cath Lynch page 83/ Aug 10, 1869/ Bridget Mannix dau of Edw. & Mgt. Connor/ bpt Aug, 1869/ witnesses Denis Leary & Mary Mannix Barravehi: page 55/ Dec 9, 1865/ Margaret Manning, dau of Edm. Manning & Mgt Connor/ bpt Dec 10, 1865/ witnesses Ptk. & Cath. Rahilly Barranchi: page 69/ Sept 30, 1867/ Mary Mannix, dau of Edm. Mannix & Cath. Connor/ bpt Oct 6, 1867/ witnesses Redmond Connor & Cath Lynch Ballyahoun: page 13/ Aug 10, 1860/ Ellen Lynch dau of Ed Lynch & Hannah Connor/ bpt Aug 15, 1860/ witnesses John & Hannah Lynch Ballinahoun: page 31/ Dec 7, 1862/ Edm. Lynch, son of Edm. Lynch and Hannah O'Connor/ bpt Dec 21, 1862/ witneses Ed.Lynch & Cath. Connor page 83/ Sept 8, 1869/ John Sullivan son of Maurice O'Sullivan & Hannah Connor/ no bpt date/ no witnesses Ballinahalla: page 13/ Oct 9, 1860/ Ellen Murphy dau of John Murphy & Cath. O'Connor/ bpt Oct 12, 1860/ witnesses Daniel & Ellen O'Leary page 67/ July 16, 1867/ Cath. Moriarty dau of John Moriarty & Nora Connor/ bpt July 18, 1867/ witnesses Jas. Hogan & Hannah Ginna Barnock: page 62/ Nov 22, 1866/ Tim Connor son of Tim Connor & Mgt. Brien/ bpt Nov 20, 1866 (?reversed)/ witnesses Tim. Brien & Hannah Brien Ballanamuck: page 69/ Oct 1, 1867/ Chas. Connor, son of Chas. Connor & Cath. Culloty/ bpt Oct 3, 1867/ witnesses Jerh. Kelleher & Mary Loughnane Ballinabrack: page 79/ Feb 21, 1869/ Ptk. Connor son of corn. Connor & Mgt Fitzgerald/ bpt Feb 25, 1869/ witnesses Daniel O'Connell & Cath. Fitzgerald

The only advice I can give regarding the "brick walls" is to start researching your Scottish ancestry if you have any. The records are much better. I am told that the Mexican colonial records are some of the best. But Irish records aren't real good. John

I found a few Connors I don,t have a connection with that I know of but someone may have [ at Rock Co. Hist. Soc., Wisconsin] Connors, Anna M. St. Joseph,s Cemetery, Fulton Township 1886-1979 Connors, Edward...Fassett Cemetery, Edgerton ,Wi. d.o.b. unk. died 1828 [ 1928 ?]-----this was on their record Connors, George H., St. Joe's Cem., Fulton Twp.,1887-1965 Connors, Tom, Rock Co. Health Care Cemetery [used to be called poor farm] d.o.b. unk..........died Jan 13, 1917 All for now....Brian Connors, Wisconsin

Just wanted to say thanks for the overwhelming reply to my query re: the existence of Ballyvadin, Co. Tipperary. It does exist , my next problem is to locate it precisely as I am going there in June. If anyone has a reference point such as S.E. of Cashel or whatever , please advise. Thanks again for the large response to my initial question......seems like there is a tremendous amount of nice people out there. Brian Connors...Wisconsin

O�CONNOR BIRTHS MANHATTAN, NEW YORK CITY 1867 REGISTERED ONLY IF MEDICAL ATTENDENT PRESENT MARY 3-10 75 MOTT ST. MARGARET MC CARTHY, JOHN SPECULATOR AGNES 9-10 211 W. 28TH ST. ELEANER KERNEY, JOHN J. MERCHANT O�CONNER MARY 6-25 293 7TH AVE. ELLEN FLYNN, THOMAS, CARPENTER 1868 NO CONNER OR O�CONNOR BIRTHS REGISTERED _______________________________________________________ CONNOR DEATHS MANHATTAN, NEW YORK CITY 1873 ANN 11 M 9-4 157611 ANNIE 10 Y 5-14 147518 CATHERINE 3 Y 11-5 162360 CHARLES M. 16 Y 5-19 147900 DENNIS 78 Y 10-17 165514 ELIZABETH 10 M 5-12 155766 ELIZABETH 21 Y 1-25 165947 ELLEN 4 M 8-12 155774 HUGH 60 Y 7-14 152436 JAMES 32 Y 5-31 148792 JAMES 47 Y 9-24 159529 JAMES 24 Y 6-12 149618 JOHANNAH - 8-18 156321 JOHN 25 Y 10-27 161953 JOHN 32 Y 12-10 165025 JOHN 28 Y 10-10 161268 MARIA 2 Y 7-12 152036 MARY A. 29 Y 3-5 142369 RACHEL T. 65 Y 12-2 164399 THOMAS 42 Y 6-17 149971 THOMAS J. 6 Y 7-1 150929 ALICE 24 Y 6-30 150950 CONNORS ALICE 24 Y 6-30 150930 BRIDGET 8 Y 2-6 142307 EDWARD 2 D 5-11 147816 EDWARD 2 Y 6-11 149473 ELLEN 45 Y 4-7 144899 FRANCES 28 Y 8-5 155046 HONORA 52 Y 6-4 149102 JAMES 9 Y 10-15 161064 JOHN 1 Y 10-8 160495 JOSEPH 1 Y 8-6 155110 JULIA 70 Y 6-1 148930 MICHAEL 3 M 8-24 156822 MICHEL 26 Y 2-12 140712 PATRICK 2 Y 1-6 138514 PETER 1 Y 4-23 146015 ROSANNA 40 Y 5-1 146594 THOMAS 41 Y 7-21 153355 THOMAS 1 Y 8-8 155453

Hi. I'm DebbieLynne, the g-g-grandaughter of Peter and Amarintha O'Conner of Montgomery GA. I was born with Cerebal Palsy, so I use a power wheelchair and type with a head pointer. Offline reseach isn't a realistic possibility for me, I'm sorry to say. Peter (born in Wexford County in 1831) evidently immigrated to either Virginia or Maryland in 1846 with his brothers James and John. Most online passenger lists for that year focus on ships going to New York or Boston, which doesn't help me. How can I locate appropriate passenger lists? I'd appreciate any ideas.

Since my O'Connors lived (according to my mother's uncle in Massachusetts) "along the River Shannon on the road to Tralee" then Aghavallin sure sounds like a place to stop and visit some day. Thank you for the history. Pat

In a message dated 3/24/99 4:05:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << Here is all I have on my so far fruitless search for John Connor/er/s: 1852 Oct 30: a John Connor from Ireland applied for naturalization in Essex County, NJ 1860 Census - City of Orange. John Conner, age 33 is a hatter. Married. 2 children (1 of the children is my grandmother) 1863 March 18. He died in a fall from a railroad car. His death certificate shows he was born in Ireland. I have most important dates for his daughter and the only clue is that her parents were born in Ireland. Does anyone have a suggestion as to a hammer that I can use on this brick wall? Any hint would be appreciated. Rita in Naples, FL >> Rita, did you get the copy of the Naturalization ? Most times it give that information. It should also give the name of ship and the date he arrived into the US. Worked for me !! Twice. I'm still attempting to locate the 3 &4 for 2 other families. Good Luck, Ley

KERRY, AGHAVALLIN, DESCRIPTION 1837 ============================================================ >From Lewis's Topographical Dictionary of Ireland Transcribed by Alma Roark Johnson AGHAVALLIN, or AGHAVALAH, a parish, in the barony of IRAGHTICONNOR, county of KERRY, and province of MUNSTER, 4 1/2 miles (W. S. W.) from Tarbert; island containing, with the town of Ballylongford and the island of Carrigue, 5688 inhabitants. This place anciently belonged to the O'Connors of Kerry, whose principal seat, Castle Carrig-a-foile, signifying in the Irish language "the rock of the chasm," was situated on the south-west side of the inlet between the main land the small island of Carrigue, which is encircled by the river Shannon. This castle was defended on the land side by a double wall flanked with circular and square bastions, which are still remaining, and was fortified against Queen Elizabeth by O'Connor, who placed in it a garrison under the command of Julio, an Italian officer. The castle, with the entire barony, excepting only one estate, was forfeited by the O'Connors of Kerry, in 1666, and conferred by the act of settlement upon the Provost and Fellows of Trinity College, Dublin. The parish is situated on the river Shannon, and within a mile and a half of the high road from Tralee to Limerick, and comprises 15,152 statute acres, as applotted under the tithe act. About one-third of it is good arable land, rather more than one-third of a coarser quality, and the remainder is a mountain pasture and bog. Limestone for manure is brought from Askeaton by turf boats returning from Limerick; and sea manure is also extensively used. A species of brown stone of good quality is quarried for building. The principal seats are Kiletton, the residence of W. Hickey, Esq.; Litter, of G. Wren, Esq.; Rusheen, of F. Crosbie, Esq.; Rushy Park, the property of Godfrey Leonard, Esq., at present occupied by Terence O'Connor, Esq.; Ahanogran, the seat of J. O'Connor, Esq.; and Asee, of Barry Collins, Esq. A steam-boat passes daily from Kilrush to Tarbert and Limerick, and vessels of 30 tons enter the creek for potatoes and turf, in which a considerable traffic is carried on. Dredging for oysters off the island of Carrigue, and fishing, employ several persons in the season. The living is a vicarage, in the diocese of Ardfert and Aghadoe, to which those of Liseltin, Killehenny, Galey, Muhir, Kilnaughten, Disert, Finuge, Listowel, and Knockanure are united, constituting the union of Aghavallin, in the patronage of Anthony Stoughton, Esq., in whom the rectory is impropriate. The tithes amount to 304 pounds 12. 2., of which 152 pounds 6. 1. is payable to the impropriator, and the remainder to the vicar: the gross amount of tithes of the union payable to the incumbent is 774 pounds 17. 11. The church, having been condemned, is about to be rebuilt by the Ecclesiastical Commissioners. There are churches at Liseltin, Kilnaughten, and Listowel. There are several glebes in the union, but all in the possession of the impropriator. In the R. C. divisions this parish is the head of the union or district of Ballylongford, also called Tarbert, which comprises the parishes of Aghavallin and Kilnaughten: a chapel has been recently erected at Asdee, as a chapel of ease to that at Ballylongford; and there is also a chapel at Tarbert, in the parish of Kilnaughten. A large and commodious school-house has been erected at Ballylongford: but the Protestant children of the parish attend a school at Sallow Glin, the demesne of Mr. Sandes, on the border of the adjoining parish; there are six pay schools.

Sorry, typo on Aradville/May 6, 1868/ witness should be Michael Kean not Michael Dean.