Brenda Many thanks for answering my request, I will certainly go into the website ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brenda Joyce" <bjoyce@xtra.co.nz> To: <nz-maori-whakapapa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [NZ-MAORI-WHAKAPAPA] NZ-MAORI-WHAKAPAPA Digest, Vol 6, Issue 1 > Kia ora > Go to the NZ Society of Genealogists Inc Māori Interest Group website at > www.nzsgmig.com The group has written a whakapapa research guide. You > can > read about it on the website and either buy a copy or borrow from a public > library. Many main centre Australian Public Libraries hold copies for > loan. > > By following step by step instructions you can do most of your research > from > outside NZ. > Kia kaha Brenda > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nz-maori-whakapapa-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:nz-maori-whakapapa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > nz-maori-whakapapa-request@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, 18 April 2012 7:00 p.m. > To: nz-maori-whakapapa@rootsweb.com > Subject: NZ-MAORI-WHAKAPAPA Digest, Vol 6, Issue 1 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Tracing Maori Ancestors (Phyllis) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 20:35:02 +1000 > From: "Phyllis" <p.bartlett8@iinet.net.au> > Subject: [NZ-MAORI-WHAKAPAPA] Tracing Maori Ancestors > To: <NZ-MAORI-WHAKAPAPA@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <D23A421B27D64BD7BD70B0EEBC7F9DB2@HomePC> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > My adopted son whose birth parents were Maori and English, would like to > know about his Maori ancestry. > Could any lister tell me how I can go about doing this for him?. All we > have > is Atama HEREPATE, Victoria Valley, a farmer. > > > Any help will be greatly appreciated. > Phyllis Bartlett > Qld. Aust. > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the NZ-MAORI-WHAKAPAPA list administrator, send an email to > NZ-MAORI-WHAKAPAPA-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the NZ-MAORI-WHAKAPAPA mailing list, send an email to > NZ-MAORI-WHAKAPAPA@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NZ-MAORI-WHAKAPAPA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of NZ-MAORI-WHAKAPAPA Digest, Vol 6, Issue 1 > ************************************************ > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4943 - Release Date: 04/17/12 > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NZ-MAORI-WHAKAPAPA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4945 - Release Date: 04/18/12 >

Kia ora Go to the NZ Society of Genealogists Inc Māori Interest Group website at www.nzsgmig.com The group has written a whakapapa research guide. You can read about it on the website and either buy a copy or borrow from a public library. Many main centre Australian Public Libraries hold copies for loan. By following step by step instructions you can do most of your research from outside NZ. Kia kaha Brenda -----Original Message----- From: nz-maori-whakapapa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nz-maori-whakapapa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of nz-maori-whakapapa-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 18 April 2012 7:00 p.m. To: nz-maori-whakapapa@rootsweb.com Subject: NZ-MAORI-WHAKAPAPA Digest, Vol 6, Issue 1 Today's Topics: 1. Tracing Maori Ancestors (Phyllis) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 20:35:02 +1000 From: "Phyllis" <p.bartlett8@iinet.net.au> Subject: [NZ-MAORI-WHAKAPAPA] Tracing Maori Ancestors To: <NZ-MAORI-WHAKAPAPA@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <D23A421B27D64BD7BD70B0EEBC7F9DB2@HomePC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" My adopted son whose birth parents were Maori and English, would like to know about his Maori ancestry. Could any lister tell me how I can go about doing this for him?. All we have is Atama HEREPATE, Victoria Valley, a farmer. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Phyllis Bartlett Qld. Aust. ------------------------------ To contact the NZ-MAORI-WHAKAPAPA list administrator, send an email to NZ-MAORI-WHAKAPAPA-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the NZ-MAORI-WHAKAPAPA mailing list, send an email to NZ-MAORI-WHAKAPAPA@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NZ-MAORI-WHAKAPAPA-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of NZ-MAORI-WHAKAPAPA Digest, Vol 6, Issue 1 ************************************************ ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4943 - Release Date: 04/17/12

My adopted son whose birth parents were Maori and English, would like to know about his Maori ancestry. Could any lister tell me how I can go about doing this for him?. All we have is Atama HEREPATE, Victoria Valley, a farmer. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Phyllis Bartlett Qld. Aust.

The independent documentary "The Voice of the Mapuche", about the vision of the world and the struggle of the Mapuche people on both sides of the Andes Mountains, is participating in the Green Unplugged Festival and can be watched on-line at the following link: http://www.cultureunplugged.com/documentary/watch-online/fes tival/play/6068/The-Voice-of-the-Mapuche Please continue participating and resending to your friends and contacts. The more people watch it, the stronger it becomes. www.lavozmapuchedocumental.com/english The Mapuche defeated the Spanish Crown invaders, and do not recognize the border that Chile and Argentina have tried to impose. Presently, the struggle is focused on maintaining the identity as a people, and stopping the encroachment of multinational corporations in Mapuche ancestral territory. In an effort to increase profits, logging, hydroelectric, oil, mining, and tourist companies -among others- cause destruction and pollution on both sides of the Andes Mountains. The legal, political and military structures of Chile and Argentina favor the interests of big business. The rights of a people whose spirituality is directly linked to Nature are constantly violated. The search for living in harmony with the environment, a horizontal way of organizing, and a resilience that has never been broken, have allowed the Mapuche to resist for over five centuries and assert: We still exist. In a journey through different communities of Puelmapu (the land where the Sun rises) and Gulumapu (the land where the Sun sets), the documentary "The Voice of the Mapuche" takes the viewer across rivers, lakes, forests, and mountains. It registers the words and wisdom of Mapuche women, men, children, youth, and elders. The film breaks through the official news blackout, when it enters the prisons where the defenders of Mapuche rights are serving their sentences. Additionally, it covers a hunger strike that went on for over 100 days and gave rise to a wave of demonstrations. The music, the paintings, the poetry, the language, the rituals, the traditions, and the strength of Nature and the ancestors are present in "The Voice of the Mapuche". In this independent documentary, the Mapuche vision of the world is the basis to understand the struggle.

The independent documentary "The Voice of the Mapuche", about the vision of the world and the struggle of the Mapuche people on both sides of the Andes Mountains, is participating in the Green Unplugged Festival and can be watched on-line at the following link: http://www.cultureunplugged.com/documentary/watch-online/fes tival/play/6068/The-Voice-of-the-Mapuche Please continue participating and resending to your friends and contacts. The more people watch it, the stronger it becomes. www.lavozmapuchedocumental.com/english

My family tree is missing my 2 x great grandfather.His son my great grandfather married in Carisbrook Victoria Australia in 1872 saying he 26 .On his marriage certificate he names his parents as George Day and Mary O'Loughlin of Tasmania but they have been impossible to find there. Recently I have been given information that until now had been a story that I thought nobody knew the truth about, it was said that we had Maori blood.My cousin has recently told me that my grandmother went to see her father on his death bed after many years of being enstranged and that he told her the story of his birth he was born in Invacargill to a Maori mother and that his father was George Day who was a sailor who sailed as crew between Tasmania and New Zealand .In Tasmania George was married and had a large family and his wife was Mary but not Mary O'Loughlin .Great grandfather Samuel Day said that his father came to N.Z .and took him on a cattle ship back to Tasmania,of course we have no verificatation of this and then George and Mary Day and family left Tasmania and went to live in New Zealand ,I don't know when Samuel left the family to come to Australia whether it was before they went to New Zealand or not maybe he still did think when he married that they were still in Tasmania . Maybe another clue was that after having 7 of his fourteen children Samuel changed his name to O'Day he was a very strict RC and that was the cause of his and my Nan being enstranged as my Nan had married a Weslyn and her mother and father had not spoken to her for years . I would really welcome any information as its been a very frustrating search regards Laraine

Kia ora Is any researching the name TOHIARIKI in Waikato, New Zealand? Hilton Doidge Waikato

Kia ora Is any researching the name PUTERE in Waikato, New Zealand? Hilton Doidge Waikato

Kia ora Is any researching Ngati Makirangi in the greater Waikato, New Zealand? Hilton Doidge Waikato

Hi Lyn, > I am trying to check if information received is correct - that John Boothman went to NZ from Victoria, Australia in the mid 1890's to live. I believe 3 of his children went and married in NZ - Elizabeth Ann Boothman married John Pearson Horton in 1904 and they had a son William Horton, born 1908. Sophia Boothman married a Peter Henry McIntosh in 1906, and David Boothman married an Ethel Glass in 1917. Firstly, a heads'-up - it isn't a good idea to post the same request to multiple boards all at once. Pick one, ask your questions and wait a while for replies to come in; give people a chance to see your post and reply if they wish. If you're not satisfied, pick another some time later and ask again. It can be very frustrating to read one list, reply where you can help, and then go to another list where the exact same questions have been asked. Are all the same people reading both lists, so will everyone at the second list have seen the first? Mailing lists aren't all about one person, one question; they're about sharing information in a place where many can learn from the exchange. Mailing lists also have specific topics. Please check that the list you're about to post to is relevant to your query, and if it isn't, find one that is. If the connection to the list's topic isn't obvious in your post, it's a good idea to explain why you chose that list and what the connection is. There's a learning curve to negotiate when you start a new venture, so don't be put off by this. Look around and learn what you can from the information provided on-screen, and ask the list administrator directly if you have any questions about what you can and can't post - you can contact any Rootsweb list administrator (owner) by writing to listname-admin@rootsweb.com (where "listname" is the EXACT name of the particular mailing list, eg kiwigen-admin@rootsweb.com for the KiwiGen list, or new-zealand-admin@rootsweb.com for the New Zealand list). Off my little "hobby-horse", and on to what we're here for... :-) Have you discovered BDM Online - Historical Records (https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Home/)? It may be of help to you if you haven't. You can purchase copies of registrations on that site. Be sure to get the printout, not the legal certificate, for family history purposes. (I explain why at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/NEW-ZEALAND/2010-04/1272342580) Do take the time to check out the information offered on the BDM site. If you're keen to purchase a printout, find out what data should have been recorded at the time - this changed over the years, and some earlier events aren't as helpful as you might expect if you've seen later ones. Do you know for sure that your family travelled from Victoria to NZ? If not, then you may like to take a look at Public Record Office Victoria (http://www.prov.vic.gov.au/), and PapersPast (http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/). Hope this helps. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy Howard *** Please reply to the list *** -- Kaiwaka, Northland, New Zealand http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wendyh65/ <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7Ewendyh65/>

I am trying to verify information received about John Boothman and his family moving to NZ to live from Victoria, Australia, in the mid 1890's. I believe Elizabeth Ann Boothman married John Pearson Horton in 1904, and they had a son William John Horton in 1908. Sophia Boothman married Peter Henry McIntosh in 1906. David Boothman married Ethel May Glass in 1917. I believe John Boothman may have died in NZ about 1912. Any information would be much appreciated. Lyn

Hello, I am trying to find our details of Frederick Bracken born abt 1879 In Mangataikapua Poverty Bay. He married in Nov 1904 Mary Burgess and had a son William born on 14.7.1906 in Gisborne. I do know that William was raised by an auntie, reasons for this - unknown. I would really like details of Fredericks parents. I would appreciate any help you can offer. Ross

Hello, I am trying to find out the parents of Frederick Bracken. Born abt 1879 in Mangataikapua Poverty Bay. He married Mary Burgess in 1906 but I have been unable to find any record of this. I do know they had a son William born 14.7.1906 in Gisborne. He was brought up by an auntie, reasons unknown. Hope someone out there can shed some light on this for me. Ross

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Looking for living descendants of Richard George JENKINS and Catherine DOIDGE m 1902, Auckland, New Zealand. Hilton Doidge New Zealand -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 1137 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

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Hello Gaye, Thanks for the good wishes and kind offer, I will bear it in mind. Kind Regards, Barry Howard, Victoria, Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gaye Ruru" <rurug@xtra.co.nz> To: <nz-maori-whakapapa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [NZ-MAORI-WHAKAPAPA] Advice needed on Criminal records,Early missionaries, and Doncaster/Taylor > Hi again Barry, > > Gaye Ruru here in Rotorua, N.Z. I also have links [through my husband, who > is Maori, to the Foxton area - good luck with your search and if I can be > of > any assistance please feel free to contact me. > > Regards, > > Gaye Ruru >

Hi again Barry, Gaye Ruru here in Rotorua, N.Z. I also have links [through my husband, who is Maori, to the Foxton area - good luck with your search and if I can be of any assistance please feel free to contact me. Regards, Gaye Ruru -----Original Message----- From: nz-maori-whakapapa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nz-maori-whakapapa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of B.Howard Sent: Saturday, 14 March 2009 5:22 p.m. To: NZ-MAORI-WHAKAPAPA@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NZ-MAORI-WHAKAPAPA] Advice needed on Criminal records, Early missionaries, and Doncaster/Taylor Hello Julie-ann and Gaye Ruru, Thanks heaps for taking the time to reply to my query. Firstly, yes julie-ann, the message you found on the Ancestry.com message board was mine. I have several such genealogy related messages out there in cyber space, trying to find information. The Rootsweb message was from Kelly Bignell who is a distant relative researching the same Doncaster/Taylor line. We have been in contact, but she has made less progress the family history than myself. The PapersPast website is a wonderful resource and I have been making use of it since it first came online. But I do thank you for the suggestion and the link to it. It was on that website where I found articles referring to the courtcases mentioned in my first email. They can be viewed here - http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=EP186907 05.2.9&srpos=14&e=-------10--11----2%22sarah+hannah%22-all and here - http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=NZSCSG18 640608.2.8&srpos=11&e=-------10--11----2%22john+doncaster%22-all When looking for information about Te Awahou, I did find there were two separate places. But I am reasonably confident that the place of that name, where my ancestors were married, was the original name for the town of Foxton. My reason for thinking this is that in 1852 the Rev. James Duncan married John Doncaster and Isabella Taylor at "Native Church, Te Awa hou" (I have their marriage certificate and the birth certificate of their daughter Sarah Hannah who was born 1855 at Rangiteiki). With that information in mind I found this following item which helps to influence my thinking - "In 1843 the Rev. James Duncan arrived at Matakarapa, a Maori village on the Manawatu River opposite present Foxton; afterwards he transferred to the northern bank to establish his mission station on 100 acres of land presented to him by Ihakara, the local paramount chief. Ihakara Tukumaru is credited with two houses of worship - the first erected at Te Awahou, sited near the Ihakara Gardens." So Gaye your suggestion is interesting, but I think the Awahou at Rotorua is not the place I am interested in. I do thank you very much for bringing it to my attention though. A really disappointing thing to learn was that the old Reverend Duncan instructed his daughter to destroy all his papers before his death, and she, dutifully, carried out his wish. There has always been a strong rumour in my family carried down the generations that there was Maori in our blood. One story has it that "Sarah Hannah was of Maori royalty!". These stories must have an element of truth to begin in the first place, and it is for this reason I am trying to find further information. Thanks again for the advice and the weblinks, I will have a look at them and see what I can find. Regards, Barry Howard, Victoria, Australia. . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NZ-MAORI-WHAKAPAPA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/1999 - Release Date: 03/13/09 05:59:00

Hello Julie-ann and Gaye Ruru, Thanks heaps for taking the time to reply to my query. Firstly, yes julie-ann, the message you found on the Ancestry.com message board was mine. I have several such genealogy related messages out there in cyber space, trying to find information. The Rootsweb message was from Kelly Bignell who is a distant relative researching the same Doncaster/Taylor line. We have been in contact, but she has made less progress the family history than myself. The PapersPast website is a wonderful resource and I have been making use of it since it first came online. But I do thank you for the suggestion and the link to it. It was on that website where I found articles referring to the courtcases mentioned in my first email. They can be viewed here - http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=EP18690705.2.9&srpos=14&e=-------10--11----2%22sarah+hannah%22-all and here - http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=NZSCSG18640608.2.8&srpos=11&e=-------10--11----2%22john+doncaster%22-all When looking for information about Te Awahou, I did find there were two separate places. But I am reasonably confident that the place of that name, where my ancestors were married, was the original name for the town of Foxton. My reason for thinking this is that in 1852 the Rev. James Duncan married John Doncaster and Isabella Taylor at "Native Church, Te Awa hou" (I have their marriage certificate and the birth certificate of their daughter Sarah Hannah who was born 1855 at Rangiteiki). With that information in mind I found this following item which helps to influence my thinking - "In 1843 the Rev. James Duncan arrived at Matakarapa, a Maori village on the Manawatu River opposite present Foxton; afterwards he transferred to the northern bank to establish his mission station on 100 acres of land presented to him by Ihakara, the local paramount chief. Ihakara Tukumaru is credited with two houses of worship - the first erected at Te Awahou, sited near the Ihakara Gardens." So Gaye your suggestion is interesting, but I think the Awahou at Rotorua is not the place I am interested in. I do thank you very much for bringing it to my attention though. A really disappointing thing to learn was that the old Reverend Duncan instructed his daughter to destroy all his papers before his death, and she, dutifully, carried out his wish. There has always been a strong rumour in my family carried down the generations that there was Maori in our blood. One story has it that "Sarah Hannah was of Maori royalty!". These stories must have an element of truth to begin in the first place, and it is for this reason I am trying to find further information. Thanks again for the advice and the weblinks, I will have a look at them and see what I can find. Regards, Barry Howard, Victoria, Australia. .

papers past is a website that you can view old newspapers have you looked there? http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast for sure i understand your straw clutching...if DONCASTER/TAYLR were not their real names then this could be a too hard basket job for you..hopefully you will find success i have 3 of my own that i dream of cracking in 1830s NZ even worse lol good luck:) ----- Original Message ----- From: "B.Howard" <stringybark@tpg.com.au> To: <NZ-MAORI-WHAKAPAPA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 9:41 PM Subject: [NZ-MAORI-WHAKAPAPA] Advice needed on Criminal records,Early missionaries, and Doncaster/Taylor > Hello, > > I am new to this list and have two questions I am hoping someone will be > able to help me with. > > 1. Is it possible to find information on early NZ court proceedings and > criminal or prison records? > > I have been trying to find information on my ancestors John DONCASTER and > Isabella TAYLOR. They had a daughter Sarah Hannah DONCASTER, born in > Rangiteiki in 1855. I found a couple of newspaper reports which mentions > court proceedings involving John Doncaster in 1865 and also an 1869 report > naming Sarah in a criminal trial (she was the victim) but I can't find any > more information about these trials. So I was wondering if it is possible > to access records of that that nature in that time period. I am interested > in the Manawatu area in the period 1850 to 1875. > > 2. Would the early missionaries, like the Reverends Duncan and Taylor, > give there surnames to Maori when baptising them. Did they christen Maori > with Anglisised names and encourage them not to use their Maori names? (I > don't think I've worded that question properly but it will have to do.) > > Family rumours passed down in my family speak of a Maori connection > through the Doncaster/Taylor line. I have not been able to comfirm this. > John Doncaster and Isabella Taylor were married by the Rev. Duncan in 1852 > at "Native Church, Te Awahou. I know he was heavily involved with the > Maori in that area at that time as also was the Reverend Taylor. I got to > thinking perhaps Taylor gave his surname to my ancestor Isabella. When I > looked into his history a little I found he was educated at DONCASTER in > England! and so I started clutching at straws. Perhaps someone on this > list will have some thoughts on this subject. > > Thanks, > Barry Howard, > Victoria, Australia. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NZ-MAORI-WHAKAPAPA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message