Thank you! ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Harte" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 5:24 PM Subject: Re: [NZ-AUCKLAND] sturm family aukland The birth, death and marriage records - https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/home - online historical records - but just had a quick look myself and nothing there - I have also checked some of the grave sites in auckland - here is the site I use - http://www.clanfraser.org.nz/genealogy/cemeterylinks.html - does not seem to be anything there. The electoral rolls only go up to 1981 online. unfortunately. There may be another member from New Zealand that may have more info than me. I have also done a google search - and that does not help either. Michelle Harte Whakatane, New Zealand [email protected] --- On Mon, 14/3/11, sharsam <[email protected]> wrote: From: sharsam <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [NZ-AUCKLAND] sturm family aukland To: [email protected] Date: Monday, 14, March, 2011, 10:17 AM Thank you so much for answering. Do the electoral rolls go beyond 1981? Is there a way I could find out if they are deceased? Hans was born 1929 so it is possible he died. Again thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Harte" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [NZ-AUCKLAND] sturm family aukland In the 1981 New Zealand Electoral Rolls - available at ancestry.com Erna Emma Sturm - 20 Shortland Street, housewifeHans Karl Sturm - 20 Shortland Street, pastry cook On the same electoral roll is Mary Christine Sturm - living at 4 Douglas Street ? North Shore. Hope this helps. Michelle Harte Whakatane, New Zealand [email protected] --- On Mon, 14/3/11, sharsam <[email protected]> wrote: From: sharsam <[email protected]> Subject: [NZ-AUCKLAND] sturm family aukland To: [email protected] Date: Monday, 14, March, 2011, 9:57 AM Hello from Ontario Canada Trying to trace family that lived in Aukland in 1981, Hans and his wife Erna Sturm. Hans worked as a pastry chef. They had two daughters, one daughter lived in both Glenfield ( I think that is right ) Aukland. Parents are probably deceased can anyone help me Regards Patricia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1498/3504 - Release Date: 03/13/11 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1498/3504 - Release Date: 03/13/11

Thank you so much for answering. Do the electoral rolls go beyond 1981? Is there a way I could find out if they are deceased? Hans was born 1929 so it is possible he died. Again thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Harte" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [NZ-AUCKLAND] sturm family aukland In the 1981 New Zealand Electoral Rolls - available at ancestry.com Erna Emma Sturm - 20 Shortland Street, housewifeHans Karl Sturm - 20 Shortland Street, pastry cook On the same electoral roll is Mary Christine Sturm - living at 4 Douglas Street ? North Shore. Hope this helps. Michelle Harte Whakatane, New Zealand [email protected] --- On Mon, 14/3/11, sharsam <[email protected]> wrote: From: sharsam <[email protected]> Subject: [NZ-AUCKLAND] sturm family aukland To: [email protected] Date: Monday, 14, March, 2011, 9:57 AM Hello from Ontario Canada Trying to trace family that lived in Aukland in 1981, Hans and his wife Erna Sturm. Hans worked as a pastry chef. They had two daughters, one daughter lived in both Glenfield ( I think that is right ) Aukland. Parents are probably deceased can anyone help me Regards Patricia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1498/3504 - Release Date: 03/13/11

Hello from Ontario Canada Trying to trace family that lived in Aukland in 1981, Hans and his wife Erna Sturm. Hans worked as a pastry chef. They had two daughters, one daughter lived in both Glenfield ( I think that is right ) Aukland. Parents are probably deceased can anyone help me Regards Patricia

Hi Patricia http://yellow.co.nz/whitepages/search/Auckland/Sturm-1.html There is a STURM EMMA BERTA aged 86 died 2 April 1978 see below  http://www.northshorecity.govt.nz/Services/OnlineServices/pages/IFCemetry.aspx and there is a Doctor Jennifer Sturm who has done papers on the history of Torbay which is near Glenfield- use the www.google.co.nz and type is STURM and a few come up Donna in Vancouver ----- Original Message ----- From: sharsam <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, March 13, 2011 1:58 pm Subject: [NZ-AUCKLAND] sturm family aukland To: [email protected] > Hello from Ontario Canada > > Trying to trace family that lived in Aukland in 1981, Hans and > his wife Erna  Sturm. Hans worked as a pastry chef. > > They had two daughters, one daughter lived in both Glenfield ( I > think that is right ) Aukland. Parents are probably deceased > > can anyone help me > > Regards > > > > Patricia >   > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NZ- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Many thanks to everyone who answered my query. Mystery was solved with the information that the Archibald's arrived in 1840/41 on the CHELYDRA. David and Margaret née POLLOCK arr Australia in 1838 on the PARLAND: David b 1816 Londonderry, farmer, 22yrs, wife 23yrs, 1 child (Rachel??) father James, mo Rachel. Bounty Immi brought out to work for Mr Kelly SYD £20 with rations. They had James 1837 reg in SYD, and 1839 Margaret. David died SYD 1860, 45 years. Again many thanks to everyone who helped find out where David had originated. Kim, in sunny Basel

Hello Kim. I have NO knowledge of this family at all; but as many people went from Oz to NZ, (and still do; and vice-versa too. haha), I wondered if there might be any record of them in New South Wales (NSW), where the INDEXES to BDMs are freely available online -- at this URL: http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/Index/IndexingOrder.cgi/search?event=births I found no references to any DEATHS of ARCHIBALD people showing parents as David and Margaret; nor could I find a marriage for David and Margaret; BUT there were these two early births shown, where the parents are named David and Margaret -- this does NOT mean that it is the same couple who you are seeking, but perhaps they MIGHT be. volume no. / year surname child's names father mother Birth V183996 24A/1839 ARCHIBALD MARGARET J DAVID MARGARET Birth V183797 24A/1837 ARCHIBALD JAMES DAVID MARGARET I have not looked here, but this link to the index search pages at the NSW State Records (Archives) site, might also show shipping arrivals, or other information: http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/indexes-online Hoping that this might help; and also that it is not leading you on an irrelevant wild goose chase. Good luck. ray in oz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Harbeck" <[email protected]> ... I am hoping to find some information on the ARCHIBALD family. according to > my research David and his wife Margaret née POLLOCK arrived in Auckland > before 1851. > > I have found three births for them: Sarah 1849, David 1851 (25 May) and > John > 1855. > > I would like to try to find out where in Scotland they came from. > > There seems to be a reference to this family in > ' Roll of early settlers & descendents in Auckland province bef 1852' 1940 > by Auckland Provincial Centennial Council. > > I hope someone will be able to help me > > Kim > basel, switzerland

Dear List, I am hoping to find some information on the ARCHIBALD family. according to my research David and his wife Margaret née POLLOCK arrived in Auckland before 1851. I have found three births for them: Sarah 1849, David 1851 (25 May) and John 1855. I would like to try to find out where in Scotland they came from. There seems to be a reference to this family in ' Roll of early settlers & descendents in Auckland province bef 1852' 1940 by Auckland Provincial Centennial Council. I hope someone will be able to help me Kim basel, switzerland

Hi Peter Just spotted your message......can't find your personal email just at the moment. Sorry to see you came to a blank ending after all!! I really thought you may have made some headway once the cousin was tracked down. Such is genealogy - some give, some don't huh. All the best Sandra Auckland New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: Peter STRAUSS Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 6:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NZ-AUCKLAND] AGNES ELIZABETH BROOKS-AGNES MYRTLE BROOKS Does anyone have information on this mother and daughter. Agnes Elizabeth BROOKS nee GLOVER was born at Stafford, Westland, 26/07/1870,Agnes Myrtle Brooks, always known as Myrtle, was born in 1904 and died in Auckland in 1999, she never married. I had been in touch with a cousin of Myrtle who I had hoped may have had photos and other information but our correspondence appears to have lapsed. The mother was a sister of my G grandmother, Barbara Fullarton EYES nee GLOVER. If anyone can assist me I would be most appreciative. Peter Melbourne ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone have information on this mother and daughter. Agnes Elizabeth BROOKS nee GLOVER was born at Stafford, Westland, 26/07/1870,Agnes Myrtle Brooks, always known as Myrtle, was born in 1904 and died in Auckland in 1999, she never married. I had been in touch with a cousin of Myrtle who I had hoped may have had photos and other information but our correspondence appears to have lapsed. The mother was a sister of my G grandmother, Barbara Fullarton EYES nee GLOVER. If anyone can assist me I would be most appreciative. Peter Melbourne

Thank you to your government and to all the volunteers from New Zealand who have come to our assistance in this time of need. Just over a month ago my wife and I were in Brisbane and were so impressed by the vibrant city heart that Queen St Mall presented. How different now. Peter Melbourne

Well done! Cynthia -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of DONNA AITKEN Sent: Friday, 24 December 2010 12:38 PM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected]; New Zealand List Subject: Re: [NZ-AUCKLAND] FamilySearch.org New Zealand, Immigration Passenger Lists, 1855-1973 Great Christmas present! Thanks Jordan and the other volunteers that made this possible Merry Christmas Donna Aitken ----- Original Message ----- From: Jordan <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, December 23, 2010 3:13 pm Subject: [NZ-AUCKLAND] FamilySearch.org New Zealand, Immigration Passenger Lists, 1855-1973 To: New Zealand List <[email protected]>, [email protected] > Hi listers > > last year and this I did some transcribing and arbitrating of records > as a non-LDS volunteer along with others and the fruits of our labours > are now available as "New Zealand, Immigration Passenger Lists, > 1855-1973" on te FamilySearch.org site. > > There is a wiki article describing this project collection at > https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/New_Zealand,_Immigration_Passenger_Lists_%2 8FamilySearch_Historical_Records%29 > or use this shorter link: > http://tinyurl.com/23jxy59 > > The database may be searched from: > https://www.familysearch.org/s/collection/show#uri=http://search- > api:8080/searchapi/search/collection/1609792&hash=Mrd8SMocDIIen2Q83tu%252B82 PRagg%253Dor use this shorter lin k: > http://tinyurl.com/2au9hpa > > Regards >   > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NZ- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Great Christmas present! Thanks Jordan and the other volunteers that made this possible Merry Christmas Donna Aitken ----- Original Message ----- From: Jordan <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, December 23, 2010 3:13 pm Subject: [NZ-AUCKLAND] FamilySearch.org New Zealand, Immigration Passenger Lists, 1855-1973 To: New Zealand List <[email protected]>, [email protected] > Hi listers > > last year and this I did some transcribing and arbitrating of records > as a non-LDS volunteer along with others and the fruits of our labours > are now available as "New Zealand, Immigration Passenger Lists, > 1855-1973" on te FamilySearch.org site. > > There is a wiki article describing this project collection at > https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/New_Zealand,_Immigration_Passenger_Lists_%28FamilySearch_Historical_Records%29 > or use this shorter link: > http://tinyurl.com/23jxy59 > > The database may be searched from: > https://www.familysearch.org/s/collection/show#uri=http://search- > api:8080/searchapi/search/collection/1609792&hash=Mrd8SMocDIIen2Q83tu%252B82PRagg%253Dor use this shorter lin k: > http://tinyurl.com/2au9hpa > > Regards >   > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NZ- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

But wait ... there's more to come. http://indexing.familysearch.org/projects/viewProject.jsf?url=New_Zealand_Passenger_Lists_Part_2A/ProjectHelp1.html or use this shorter link http://tinyurl.com/39fn5o8 Whilst hundreds of thousands of transcriptions have been done, there are more films to be transcribed. Details at https://help.familysearch.org/publishing/524/107323_f.SAL_Public.html or use this shorter link http://tinyurl.com/27wka3d Regards

Hi listers last year and this I did some transcribing and arbitrating of records as a non-LDS volunteer along with others and the fruits of our labours are now available as "New Zealand, Immigration Passenger Lists, 1855-1973" on te FamilySearch.org site. There is a wiki article describing this project collection at https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/New_Zealand,_Immigration_Passenger_Lists_%28FamilySearch_Historical_Records%29 or use this shorter link: http://tinyurl.com/23jxy59 The database may be searched from: https://www.familysearch.org/s/collection/show#uri=http://search-api:8080/searchapi/search/collection/1609792&hash=Mrd8SMocDIIen2Q83tu%252B82PRagg%253D or use this shorter lin k: http://tinyurl.com/2au9hpa Regards

Thank you to everyone who replied to my query. Sometimes you just can't see the forest for the trees. I appreciate your assistance regards Judy Across the ditch in Newcastle.

Well done Penne! :-)) I had a quick look on my NZ Genealogy CD's and couldn't find any information that would help Judy. I got caught out in a similar way when I spent many hours looking for my relatives in Gisborne and Christchurch (NZ) as per the back of some photographs, when in fact I needed to have been looking in Victoria, Australia. Sandra Auckland New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: Penne Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 12:57 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NZ-AUCKLAND] re Ann Todd Judy,It was England -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Jun 1843 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- AISBETT Thomas Auckland 24 2 cheers penne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Dumbrell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 12:06 PM Subject: [NZ-AUCKLAND] re Ann Todd > Hello everyone, > > I'm new to this list and researching the Todd family and the Aisbett > family and I have hit a brick wall. > > Ann Todd married Thomas Aisbett about 1847 in Auckland, according to > Thomas' death certificate. Her parents were William Todd and Eleanor > Parkin. Ann also had a brother John Todd who came to Australia. Ann was > supposed to have been born in Auckland NZ. I can't find the births of > their children over here either, until the last 2 in 1863 and 1866 in Qld. > I looked up the BDMs for New Zealand but they don't go back far enough. > > Thomas and Ann, their 4 children and John Todd all came across to > Queensland. I am wondering if anyone has come across these people in > their searches. I have looked through the passenger lists to New Zealand > and haven't found a trace of Thomas Aisbett arriving in New Zealand. It > is an unusual name and in those days could have been spelt all sorts of > ways. Thomas Aisbett came from Auckland or Bishop Auckland. He was > referred to as a New Zealander when he opened a pub in NSW in 1878. > > Auckland NZ wasn't known as Bishop Auckland in the early days was it? I > think I am clutching at straws here. > > Any help with the puzzle would be appreciated. > > regards > Judy > Newcastle, Oz > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Judith births in Auckland ENGLAND Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1844 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Aisbett John William Auckland 24 6 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1846 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Aisbett Ann Auckland 24 16 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1847 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- AISBETT Jane Auckland 24 12 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1847 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Aisbett James Auckland 24 13 Aisbett John Auckland 24 13 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1849 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Aisbett William Auckland 24 14 cheers penne

Judy,It was England -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Jun 1843 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- AISBETT Thomas Auckland 24 2 cheers penne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Dumbrell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 12:06 PM Subject: [NZ-AUCKLAND] re Ann Todd > Hello everyone, > > I'm new to this list and researching the Todd family and the Aisbett > family and I have hit a brick wall. > > Ann Todd married Thomas Aisbett about 1847 in Auckland, according to > Thomas' death certificate. Her parents were William Todd and Eleanor > Parkin. Ann also had a brother John Todd who came to Australia. Ann was > supposed to have been born in Auckland NZ. I can't find the births of > their children over here either, until the last 2 in 1863 and 1866 in Qld. > I looked up the BDMs for New Zealand but they don't go back far enough. > > Thomas and Ann, their 4 children and John Todd all came across to > Queensland. I am wondering if anyone has come across these people in > their searches. I have looked through the passenger lists to New Zealand > and haven't found a trace of Thomas Aisbett arriving in New Zealand. It > is an unusual name and in those days could have been spelt all sorts of > ways. Thomas Aisbett came from Auckland or Bishop Auckland. He was > referred to as a New Zealander when he opened a pub in NSW in 1878. > > Auckland NZ wasn't known as Bishop Auckland in the early days was it? I > think I am clutching at straws here. > > Any help with the puzzle would be appreciated. > > regards > Judy > Newcastle, Oz > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello everyone, I'm new to this list and researching the Todd family and the Aisbett family and I have hit a brick wall. Ann Todd married Thomas Aisbett about 1847 in Auckland, according to Thomas' death certificate. Her parents were William Todd and Eleanor Parkin. Ann also had a brother John Todd who came to Australia. Ann was supposed to have been born in Auckland NZ. I can't find the births of their children over here either, until the last 2 in 1863 and 1866 in Qld. I looked up the BDMs for New Zealand but they don't go back far enough. Thomas and Ann, their 4 children and John Todd all came across to Queensland. I am wondering if anyone has come across these people in their searches. I have looked through the passenger lists to New Zealand and haven't found a trace of Thomas Aisbett arriving in New Zealand. It is an unusual name and in those days could have been spelt all sorts of ways. Thomas Aisbett came from Auckland or Bishop Auckland. He was referred to as a New Zealander when he opened a pub in NSW in 1878. Auckland NZ wasn't known as Bishop Auckland in the early days was it? I think I am clutching at straws here. Any help with the puzzle would be appreciated. regards Judy Newcastle, Oz

Thank you Sandra, I look forward to the info. Currently between Hobart and Sydney on a cruise around Australia and am meeting a descendent of Agnes BROOKS Snr. in Sydney, she will be delighted with this progress. Cheers Peter At Sea On Sat Nov 13 16:00 , [email protected] sent: Today's Topics: 1. Agnes Myrtle BROOKS died 1999 (Somers) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 15:41:06 +1300 From: "Somers" <[1][email protected]> Subject: [NZ-AUCKLAND] Agnes Myrtle BROOKS died 1999 To: <[2][email protected]> Message-ID: <[3][email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hello Peter As I have been assisted by some very helpful Victorians (OZ) in the past I have been to the Takapuna Library today and found the Death Notice of your Miss Agnes BROOKS. I have also traced a living person who may be willing/able to assist you ? will email copy of Death Notice and all further information (living person) OFF LIST. Regards Sandra Auckland NZ References 1. javascript:top.opencompose('[email protected]','','','') 2. javascript:top.opencompose('[email protected]','','','') 3. javascript:top.opencompose('[email protected]','','','')