One only at this stage. There may be extra in the future Hugh M717601 <https://www.gedmatch.com/OneToMany0Tier2.php?kit_num=M717601> dna On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 at 11:42, Bret Busby <[email protected]> wrote: > On Sun, 1 Mar 2020, hugh wrote: > > > Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2020 03:55:48 > > From: hugh <[email protected]> > > Reply-To: Pointing your list members to a new list < > [email protected]> > > To: NewZealand List <[email protected]>, [email protected] > > Subject: [NZ-AUCKLAND] Cutover > > > > Last day of the rootsweb lists today! > > > > If you a subscriber to the above lists, and not subscribed to the new > list, > > you need to do so now. > > > > To do this, > > > > Go to > > > > https://groups.io/g/newzealand > > > > > > Hugh > > Listowner > > > > > > So, there is not a separate Auckland group, to replace the Auckland > list, or, an Auckland subgroup to the NZ group, to replace the Auckland > list, but, it is all now merged into a single entity for NZ? > > -- > Bret Busby > Armadale > West Australia > .............. > > "So once you do know what the question actually is, > you'll know what the answer means." > - Deep Thought, > Chapter 28 of Book 1 of > "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: > A Trilogy In Four Parts", > written by Douglas Adams, > published by Pan Books, 1992 > .................................................... > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

On Sun, 1 Mar 2020, hugh wrote: > Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2020 03:55:48 > From: hugh <[email protected]> > Reply-To: Pointing your list members to a new list <[email protected]> > To: NewZealand List <[email protected]>, [email protected] > Subject: [NZ-AUCKLAND] Cutover > > Last day of the rootsweb lists today! > > If you a subscriber to the above lists, and not subscribed to the new list, > you need to do so now. > > To do this, > > Go to > > https://groups.io/g/newzealand > > > Hugh > Listowner > > So, there is not a separate Auckland group, to replace the Auckland list, or, an Auckland subgroup to the NZ group, to replace the Auckland list, but, it is all now merged into a single entity for NZ? -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .............. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 ....................................................

Last day of the rootsweb lists today! If you a subscriber to the above lists, and not subscribed to the new list, you need to do so now. To do this, Go to https://groups.io/g/newzealand Hugh Listowner

On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, hugh wrote: > Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 02:42:05 > From: hugh <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > To: NewZealand List <[email protected]>, > nottsgen <[email protected]>, [email protected], > [email protected], [email protected] > Subject: [NZ-AUCKLAND] Fwd: [ROOT-LO-ANNOUN] RootsWeb Mailing Lists > > End of an era... > > Hugh > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: RootsWeb Administration <[email protected]> > Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 at 06:36 > Subject: [ROOT-LO-ANNOUN] RootsWeb Mailing Lists > To: <[email protected]> > > > Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Lists functionality on RootsWeb will > be discontinued. Users will no longer be able to send outgoing emails or > accept incoming emails. Additionally, administration tools will no longer > be available to list administrators and mailing lists will be put into an > archival state. > > Administrators may save the emails in their list prior to March 2nd. After > that, mailing list archives will remain available and searchable on > RootsWeb. > > As an alternative to RootsWeb Mailing Lists, Ancestry message boards are a > great option to network with others in the genealogy community. Message > boards are available for free with an Ancestry registered account. > Thank you for being part of the RootsWeb family and contributing to this > community. > > Sincerely, > The RootsWeb team > > Hello, Hugh. Have you considered either incorporating this list (and other NZ lists) into your NZ group at groups.io, or, setting up subgroups for this list (and other NZ lists) in your NZ group at groups.io ? Valorie Zimmerman has started setting up subgroups in the Scotland group, for the more localised Scotland mailing lists, and, it seems (for her) to be working. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .............. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 ....................................................

Hello Hugh. Thank you for forwarding on this announcement. To my prejudiced mind, it is an indictment of the bona fides of Ancestry that they have not issued an explanation and apology etc. to EACH of the lists. I believe that when they bought out Rootsweb, their only intention was to use it as a platform to ramp up their business. IMO, it has worked, almost certainly beyond their wildest dreams. And now they no longer need the list members. So they put us all offline for SOOOOO long, which totally damaged the lists. Then later, now, they are pulling the plug completely. That is the dog-eat-dog of the business world. On the other hand, I pay tribute to the majority of the member of this list; as well of all of the many rootsweb lists to which I was an avid subscriber for decades, who demonstrate totally different values. This list exemplified them: very kind, friendly, knowledgeable and helpful list-members who frequently went above and beyond to try to find responses to our postings. Therefore, I THANK the wonderful people of this Auckland list, who helped me immeasurably over the years. And by inference I thank the list members of all of the Rootsweb lists for personifying those same values of genealogical kindnesses. My own Auckland family was not there for very long. It was Thomas Leach DAY and his “wife" (have never ever found their marriage! neither in NZ nor in Oz) Charlotte PLUNKET(T). Their first few children were born in Auckland in the very early days, before they moved the family to Oz in the early 1850s. He appeared as a Witness to a land claim for someone else at Kororareka, so it seems that that might have been his original location in NZ. Recently we have found her arrival from England in Oz (via the Benevolent Society records, thankfully); but have never yet found the entry into NZ by either of them — whether separately or alone. The other family was that of John Ere RAMSEY who seems to have lived a very ‘colourful” life; supposedly married a Maori woman in Auckland who was a nurse (or so the family story went — which continued that he lived at 3 Lamps, Ponsonby; and had quite a few daughters — many of whom might also have been nurses. But here I am outside evidenced fact, and in the realm of family tales). People on this list helped me with his War Record in NZ. So, again: THANK YOU to all of the wonderful Rootsweb people — and I should also explicitly say that that includes their List Admins; and also the seemingly tireless, giving people who volunteered behind the scenes unpaid for a lot of the Rootsweb admin work. Best wishes to all. Ray in Oz. ===================================================== > On 8 Jan 2020, at 4:42 am, hugh <[email protected]> wrote: > > End of an era... > > Hugh > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: RootsWeb Administration <[email protected]> > Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 at 06:36 > Subject: [ROOT-LO-ANNOUN] RootsWeb Mailing Lists > To: <[email protected]> > > > Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Lists functionality on RootsWeb will > be discontinued. Users will no longer be able to send outgoing emails or > accept incoming emails. Additionally, administration tools will no longer > be available to list administrators and mailing lists will be put into an > archival state. > > Administrators may save the emails in their list prior to March 2nd. After > that, mailing list archives will remain available and searchable on > RootsWeb. > > As an alternative to RootsWeb Mailing Lists, Ancestry message boards are a > great option to network with others in the genealogy community. Message > boards are available for free with an Ancestry registered account. > Thank you for being part of the RootsWeb family and contributing to this > community. > > Sincerely, > The RootsWeb team > > _______________________________________________ >

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I found an elusive 4th. cousin had migrated to New Zealand from UK ., probably around 1912. His parents were Thomas Barnett and Florence Keller. Born 1887 in Plymouth Devon and died 1960 in Palmerston North NZ. Are there any relatives using this site I could contact and other sites I may post to nearer Palmerston North? Grateful for any help. I do have electoral, marriage and death information. Del Ward (mother was a Keller). North Queensland Australia.

Hi Eileen It appears David R A Davis and Blanch Florence Slee returned to England in 1955 and that same year came back to Australia. Married. Departed 3 March 1955 from Tilbury London on board SS Oronsay. Freemantle 14 Seaforth Ave. Cronulla. NSW .1972 - 1980 5?54 Paramatta S. Cronulla prior Hope this helps Margaret > On 02 January 2019 at 17:46 Eileen Chapman <[email protected] mailto:[email protected] > wrote: > > > Hello, > I have recently found relative of mine left England 8th December 1950 on the ship ATLANTIS for permanent residence in NZ, then I found him back in the UK to be married 1955 from then he and his wife Blanche Florence have disappeared from 1956, I am hoping there is someone that can help and see if they are again travelling by ship. > The name is David Ronald Arhur DAVIS b 1930 and wife Blanche 1932. > Thank you > Eileen > > [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif]<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient > Virus-free. www.avast.com<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient > > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >

Hello, I have recently found relative of mine left England 8th December 1950 on the ship ATLANTIS for permanent residence in NZ, then I found him back in the UK to be married 1955 from then he and his wife Blanche Florence have disappeared from 1956, I am hoping there is someone that can help and see if they are again travelling by ship. The name is David Ronald Arhur DAVIS b 1930 and wife Blanche 1932. Thank you Eileen [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif]<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> Virus-free. www.avast.com<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient>

I have information about this 4/5 cousin to hand, also his sister Sybil Florence Barnett. John was married to Catherine Wickliffe. Pleased to have contact with his descendants as we share a g’g’ grandmother Thomasina Eliza Keller. Del Ward North Queensland Australia.

Good afternoon Listers, A couple of weeks ago I sent an email to the List, regarding James Robert Harrison. I have had some help in sorting out his life in Auckland NZ, after he sailed from Sydney with his family to Auckland. One child died in Sydney and the two children sailed with their parents and they were Ellen born 1855 and Clementine Emily Margaret Harrison born 1857 in Sydney. Clementine went on to make a name for herself in New Zealand by attending University and having a great teaching career, until she retired when she married Harold Crispe Mellsop in 1893. They were married by the Bishop of Auckland, in the Bishop’s Chapel in 1893. Clementine had no children. However, her sister Ellen did. She married Maurice Kelly when she was only 16 in 1871. They had two children Maurice Claude Kelly in 1872 and Constance Emily Maud Kelly in 1874. In 28th March 1876 aged 20 Ellen Kelly (nee Harrison) died at her residence in High Street, Auckland and she is buried next to her father. Sadly her daughter Constance died at the age of 14 in 1888. Now this is where the story gets very interesting, Maurice Claude Kelly the only surviving grandchild of James Robert and Marguerite Harrison, married Nagahuia “Sarah” Welsh. “Sarah” was the daughter of John Patrick Welsh and Kararaina Hohaia (nee Rore). Kararaina was the daughter of Hohaia Patuone and Kateao Te Takupu. Hohaia Patuone was born on 18 May 1825 in Kawakawa, Northland. I am hoping SKS, could help me to go back further with this Maori family. I am sure there are some wonderful stories to be told. It is so interesting and I am helping a friend who traces her family back to James Robert Harrison and James’ parents James and Ellen Harrison (nee Beaver) from Manchester and later the Isle of Wight. Thank you. Cheers, Janice Belrose, Sydney

Hello Listers, To add to the Harrison family, I found that young Ellen who married Maurice Kelly when she was 16 and died at 20 in 1876, had two children before her death. the children were Maurice Claude Kelly in 1872 and Constance Emily Maud in 1874. Also, I did not have Clementine Emily Margaret Harrison;s full married name, it should be Clementine Emily Margaret Mellsop, not Crispe. Her husband’s full name was Harold Crispe Mellsop. Clemintine was also know as an avid Golfer and she was the secretary of the Manawatu Ladies' Golf Club. Cheers, Janice Doughty

Good Afternoon Listers, I am hoping SKS can help with the history of the time James Robert Harrison lived in Auckland NZ, which would be from around 1851, until his death on 12th January 1870 aged 53 years. He passed away at his residence Vermonton,Wangaproa, Stanmore Bay and is buried at Northland. James Robert Harrison has a very long and interesting story to tell. However, many family researchers of the Harrison family have accidently mixed up James Robert Harrison, with James Harrison born 1816 on Isle of Man, the son of Thomas and Alice Harrison. James Robert Harrison was born in Manchester, Lancashire UK in 1816 to James Harrison and Ellen Beaver (her father was a Privateer from Wales). The Harrison family roots were in Manchester, however after the marriage of James and Ellen Harrison’s 20 year old daughter Ellen to Major William Harvie Christie at the Manchester Cathedral, the family moved to the Isle of Wight, where James Snr., with his daughter Margaret set up a boarding school for children of Military families, who were shipped out to areas where they served the East Indian Company. Major William Harvie and Ellen Christie (nee Harrison) sailed from England on the convict ship “Captain Cook” and they arrived in Sydney Cove on 13th Nov 1836. William was in the 80th Regiment of Foot, as was his brother Samuel Tolfrey Christie, who sailed to the Penal Colony per “Bengal Merchant” in 1836. The 80th was dispatched to the Penal Colony as guards of the convicts and it is believed that James Robert Harrison, was on either of these ships, as over the years he made quite a name for himself in the Colony, buying up many properties in around Sydney Town. When Samuel Tolfry Christie returned to England after completing his service in the Colony, he visited his sister-in-law’s Harrison family on the Isle of Wight, where he fell in love with Ellen’s sister France Esther Harrison, and married her. Leaving her husband retired army Major William Harvie Christie, who was now the first Post Master General in the Colony, Ellen Christe (nee Harrison), returned to England with a servant girl, her brother James and her eldest son 16 year old William Beaver Blayney Christie, as W.B.B.C was to attend his grandfather school on the Isle of Wight and then when he was 18 he would attend Sandhurst. The family embarked on the barque “Princess Royal”, which sailed from Sydney on 7th August 1847 and arrived in Gravesend on 20th December 1847. Ellen Christie never returned to the Colony and died in 1853 in an Asylum in Alton, Hampshire, where she was diagnosed with “Melancholy”. Ellen’s brother James Robert Harrison did return to Sydney Town and continued to buy land in and around the town. He also carried out church charity work with his brother-in-law, retired Widower Major William Harvie Christie. In 1845, Marguerite Clementine Romanson aged 39 arrived free per “General Hewitt” she was a native of Pau, France. In 1854 she married James Robert Harrison at the Scots Church in Sydney Town. In 1854 a daughter Clementine A. was born and died the same day. In 1855 daughter Ellen was born and in 1857 Clementine Emily Margaret was born. Sometime after the birth of Clementine, James 40 and Marguerite “Clementine” Harrison 41 sailed from Sydney to Auckland, NZ. I do not know what year or what ship they sailed on. I am hoping that there are some records of James and Marguerite “Clementine” Harrison lives in Auckland. James Robert Harrison died on 12th January 1870 at his residence “Vermonton”, Whangaparoa and was buried in the Stanmore Bay Beach Cemetery. James was 53 years old. On 27th September 1887 Marguerite Clementine Harrison died aged 73 at is buried in Saint Andrew’s Cemetery, Whangaparaoa. In 1871, 16 year old Ellen Harrison married Maurice Kelly. In 28th March 1876 aged 20 she died and she is buried next to her father. In 1893 Clementine Emily Margaret Harrison married Harold Crispe. Clementine made a name for herself, when she earned her BA from the University of New Zealand, which was an unique in those days and later she obtained her Masters degree. She was appointed the Lady Principal of Wanganui Girls High School. She also taught at Nelson Girls’ College. She retired from teaching when she married. It appears she had no children. Her husband Harold Crispe died on 2nd June 1930 on Kawau Island, Auckland, at the age of 65. Clementine Crispe (nee Harrison) died on 16th November 1937 at the age of 80, and was buried with her husband. I am hoping there is some trace in the past of what kind of life James Robert and Marguerite Harrison lived, from the time they arrived in Auckland up until their deaths. James was very much involved in Real Estate over the years he lived in Sydney Town and maybe he carried on with buying and selling properties in NZ. Also, his nephew Edward Christie an army officer in the British Army was posted to NZ during the Māori Wars. Cheers, Janice Doughty,Belrose, Sydney

Hello Listers, I must apologise I pressed the incorrect button and the email has been sent off half finished. I will finish it tomorrow. Cheers, jANICE From: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2018 10:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: JAMES ROBERT HARRISON Good Afternoon Listers, I am hoping SKS can help with the history of the time James Robert Harrison lived in Auckland NZ from around 1851 and died 12th January 1870 aged 53 years at his residence Vermonton,Wangaproa, Stanmore Bay and is buried at Northland. James Robert Harrison as a very long and interesting story to tell. James Robert Harrison was born in Manchester, Lancashire UK in 1816 to James Harrison and Ellen Beaver (her father was a Privateer from Wales). The Harrison family roots were in Manchester, however after the marriage of James and Ellen Harrison’s 20 year old daughter Ellen to Major William Harvie Christie at the Manchester Cathedral, the family moved to the Isle of Wight, where James Snr., with his daughter Margaret set up a boarding school for children of Military families, who were shipped out to areas where they served the East Indian Company. Major William Harvie and Ellen Christie (nee Harrison) sailed from England on the convict ship “Captain Cook” and they arrived in Sydney Cove on 13th Nov 1836. William was in the 80th Regiment of Foot. As was his brother Samuel Tolfrey Christie and he sailed to the Penal Colony per “Bengal Merchant”. It is believed that James Robert Harrison, was on either of these ships, as he made quite a name for himself in the Colony, buying up many properties in around Sydney Town.

Good Afternoon Listers, I am hoping SKS can help with the history of the time James Robert Harrison lived in Auckland NZ from around 1851 and died 12th January 1870 aged 53 years at his residence Vermonton,Wangaproa, Stanmore Bay and is buried at Northland. James Robert Harrison as a very long and interesting story to tell. James Robert Harrison was born in Manchester, Lancashire UK in 1816 to James Harrison and Ellen Beaver (her father was a Privateer from Wales). The Harrison family roots were in Manchester, however after the marriage of James and Ellen Harrison’s 20 year old daughter Ellen to Major William Harvie Christie at the Manchester Cathedral, the family moved to the Isle of Wight, where James Snr., with his daughter Margaret set up a boarding school for children of Military families, who were shipped out to areas where they served the East Indian Company. Major William Harvie and Ellen Christie (nee Harrison) sailed from England on the convict ship “Captain Cook” and they arrived in Sydney Cove on 13th Nov 1836. William was in the 80th Regiment of Foot. As was his brother Samuel Tolfrey Christie and he sailed to the Penal Colony per “Bengal Merchant”. It is believed that James Robert Harrison, was on either of these ships, as he made quite a name for himself in the Colony, buying up many properties in around Sydney Town.

Hello again Janice. Thanks for this nice reply. Great to know that my thoughts are helpful. I was alerted to the gold-chasing line of thought, by following one of my own fellows from this AKL list:  Thomas Leach DAY, who ‘married?’ Catherine PLUNKET(T), perhaps in NZ in the early 1850s; where several of their children, including my own great grandmother, were born.  They were in NZ well before gold was found; and moved to Sydney in Oz in the early 1850s.   Finding the baptism in Sydney of another daughter to that couple, where the certificate said that the father was a ‘laborer’ in Tambaroora, right at the time of the Hill End and Tambaroora goldrushes, and later finding HIM in one or more other Oz gold-field areas, gave me this possible gold-rush attitude towards some migrations.  So I am thrilled that this learning for me, seems to have helped you too. All the best. Ray in Oz. ============================= On 6 Apr 2018, at 9:15 am, [email protected] wrote: Hi Ray, I believe you are spot on and have solved the mystery of why Ernest married in Tumut in NSW.  In Ernest Frederick Compton Snr's Obituary in the Auckland newspaper on 25th June 1890, explains a lot about his life. I then remembered that the goldfields were at Adalong in NSW and Tumut would be the town to go to marry or register the marriage.  So I have tried to work backwards and noted in the Obituary it mentions that when Ernest arrived in Melbourne he became a very successful drysalting merchant.  I thought he must have known something about this trade before he arrived and this would be a great trade to have on the goldfields.  Salting bacon and pork for the miners and it must have been on the goldfields that he met his future wife Emma. I remember another family I have researched and one of the ancestors who made his fortune on the Adelong goldfields, not panning for gold, but being the site's butcher.  Again your suggestion that it must have been the gold fields in California, why he left Prince Edward Island and travelled to San Francisco.  Then came the question how did he know the trade, it must have been on Prince Edward Island and yes that is where he learnt the process: - https://thenavigatormagazine.com/salt-of-the-island-sea-p-e-i-company-hoping-to-turn-artisanal-salt-into-burgeoning-industry/ It was not long after the birth of Ernest and Emma's second son William Spencer Compton in Tumbarumba in 1867, that the family made the decision to move to New Zealand.  Maybe, there were members of Ernest's family already settled in Auckland? It is not known if the family embarked in Melbourne or Sydney to sail to NZ.  They were in Auckland when their son Thomas was born in 1871. The family opened a large Provision business in Queen Street and later Ernest took the management of the the newly formed Tug boat company and he was also a member of the Auckland Harbour Board.  In the Obituary it states that in his early life, while still on Prince Edward Island he spent some time at sea on Nova Scotian vessels and this would explain why he was involved in shipping in Auckland. The family however did pay a terrible price, from the eight children Ernest and Emma Louisa Compton had, only three survived into adulthood.  Would the death certificates of the children that died in Auckland have their cause of death?  Another mystery to solve is Emma's parents George  J and Caroline Abbott.  Emma was born in 1846 in NSW, no place is given on the BDM Website. On one of Emma's many trips from Auckland to Sydney in August 1874, she has sons William and Thomas with her and gives her nationality as Scottish. That makes me think that her parents were Scottish. Thomas Compton, Ernest and Emma's first child born in Auckland died on 13th March 1889 from Typhoid Fever, he was 18 years old, however I found a marriage of a Thomas Compton in 1888 to a Emma Louisa Florence Doubleday and a birth of a child Gladys in 1889, I will have to now go on a search to see if this is our Thomas.  Thank you very much Ray for your suggestions about the goldfields, I think you are correct that is why he was here. Cheers, Janice Belrose, Sydney -----Original Message——  ------------------------- Email sent using Optus Webmail

Hello. I am wondering whether anyone on this list, apart from me, has those family names in their family history, as they are names in family lines of mine, that I am researching. Also, if anyone does have any of those names in their family history, and is not subscribed also to the family names mailing lists, I ask that you subscribe to the applicable family names mailing lists, and post introductory messages, and, any queries to the applicable lists. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .............. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 ....................................................

Hello. I am wondering whether anyone on this list, apart from me, has those family names in their family history, as they are names in family lines of mine, that I am researching. Also, if anyone does have any of those names in their family history, and is not subscribed also to the family names mailing lists, I ask that you subscribe to the applicable family names mailing lists, and post introductory messages, and, any queries to the applicable lists. Also, for any people who have BUSBY lineage, please visit the web page at http://www.busbygenealogy.net, which mentions some of the genealogy resources available for BUSBY genealogy researchers. Now that the Rootsweb genealogy mailing lists appear to be kind of working again, to resume using the lists for genealogy reasearch, would be good. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .............. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 ....................................................

Hi Ray, I believe you are spot on and have solved the mystery of why Ernest married in Tumut in NSW. In Ernest Frederick Compton Snr's Obituary in the Auckland newspaper on 25th June 1890, explains a lot about his life. I then remembered that the goldfields were at Adalong in NSW and Tumut would be the town to go to marry or register the marriage. So I have tried to work backwards and noted in the Obituary it mentions that when Ernest arrived in Melbourne he became a very successful drysalting merchant. I thought he must have known something about this trade before he arrived and this would be a great trade to have on the goldfields. Salting bacon and pork for the miners and it must have been on the goldfields that he met his future wife Emma. I remember another family I have researched and one of the ancestors who made his fortune on the Adelong goldfields, not panning for gold, but being the site's butcher. Again your suggestion that it must have been the gold fields in California, why he left Prince Edward Island and travelled to San Francisco. Then came the question how did he know the trade, it must have been on Prince Edward Island and yes that is where he learnt the process: - https://thenavigatormagazine.com/salt-of-the-island-sea-p-e-i-company-hoping-to-turn-artisanal-salt-into-burgeoning-industry/ It was not long after the birth of Ernest and Emma's second son William Spencer Compton in Tumbarumba in 1867, that the family made the decision to move to New Zealand. Maybe, there were members of Ernest's family already settled in Auckland? It is not known if the family embarked in Melbourne or Sydney to sail to NZ. They were in Auckland when their son Thomas was born in 1871. The family opened a large Provision business in Queen Street and later Ernest took the management of the the newly formed Tug boat company and he was also a member of the Auckland Harbour Board. In the Obituary it states that in his early life, while still on Prince Edward Island he spent some time at sea on Nova Scotian vessels and this would explain why he was involved in shipping in Auckland. The family however did pay a terrible price, from the eight children Ernest and Emma Louisa Compton had, only three survived into adulthood. Would the death certificates of the children that died in Auckland have their cause of death? Another mystery to solve is Emma's parents George J and Caroline Abbott. Emma was born in 1846 in NSW, no place is given on the BDM Website. On one of Emma's many trips from Auckland to Sydney in August 1874, she has sons William and Thomas with her and gives her nationality as Scottish. That makes me think that her parents were Scottish. Thomas Compton, Ernest and Emma's first child born in Auckland died on 13th March 1889 from Typhoid Fever, he was 18 years old, however I found a marriage of a Thomas Compton in 1888 to a Emma Louisa Florence Doubleday and a birth of a child Gladys in 1889, I will have to now go on a search to see if this is our Thomas. Thank you very much Ray for your suggestions about the goldfields, I think you are correct that is why he was here. Cheers, Janice Belrose, Sydney -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2018 5:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NZ-AUCKLAND] Re: COMPTONS - AUCKLAND Hello Janice. Thanks for updating the list on your most recent findings. Just a quick thought about Ernest Frederick COMPTON Snr's moving from his birthplace in Canada, to San Francisco, and then on to NSW.

Hello Janice. Thanks for updating the list on your most recent findings.  Just a quick thought about Ernest Frederick COMPTON Snr's moving from his birthplace in Canada, to San Francisco, and then on to NSW. It is possible that he left Canada to go to San Francisco as a "forty-niner" -- 1849 gold miner.  Then sometime after 1850 perhaps, when gold was announced to have been found in Oz , perhaps he followed the gold-mining trail to Oz?  Later on there was gold found in the Kiandra part of NSW, near the Snowy Mountains -- as well as small finds in other nearby areas, including between there and the east coast of Australia near Pambula/Eden areas; which might account for his being in that area too.  Good luck with the hunt. Ray in Oz. ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] Sent:Wed, 4 Apr 2018 16:01:11 +1000 Thank you to everyone, for your wonderful responses with information to help with finding the story of the Comptons. As it was over a week ago when I posted the enquiry about the family living in Auckland and while waiting for the Site to come up, I went on a search through the BDM NZ Website, for births and deaths and also a cousin sent to me the NZ Newspaper Website, like our Trove. It had so much information, like many of those who responded to my post, already knew or found out. I also found a Website on the Compton Tree by a lady in Canada, that goes way, way back to the Comptons in England. There are still a couple of things I have to find and that is when Emma the mother, and two of her three surviving children arrived in Sydney. Son Ernest Frederick Compton Jnr., married in Sydney in 1899 and his sister Maud as previously covered married in 1900 also in Sydney. Maud's widowed mother Emma was present at her marriage, all the family settled around the inner Sydney suburb of Balmain. Here is what I have found. Ernest Frederick Compton Snr., who married Emma Louisa Abbot in 1864, registered in Tumut, (which is in the Snowy Mountain region of NSW), was indeed born on Prince Edward Island in Canada in 8th March 1828 to William Spencer Compton and Harriet Clara Haszard. As a young man Ernest sailed from Canada to San Francisco and worked there for awhile. After a few years there, he sailed Down Under and it appears that he disembarked in Melbourne, where he set up a business as a Drysalter. For some reason he was around the Riverina area of New South Wales, when he met and married Emma. They then ended up in Tumbarumba, which is on the Southern Tablelands of NSW. They had two sons, Ernest S (Spencer) Compton in 1866 and William S (Spencer) Compton in 1867. Ernest died as an infant. By 1869 they were living in Auckland, when son George Frederick Compton was born. Followed by Thomas 1871, Emma Louisa 1872, Ernest Frederick 1876, Maud Slevna 1878 and Elizabeth Florence in 1879. Emma 10 months, George 7 months, Thomas 18 years (typhoid Fever) and Elizabeth 4 months all died and add to those deaths, that of Ernest an infant in 1866 in New South Wales, it must have been traumatic for the parents. Ernest Frederick Compton Snr., died in 1890 (he was also known as Frederick). The Obituaries in the newspapers after his death, tells the story of his life in Auckland and also solves the mystery of what happened to the second son born in NSW, William Spencer Compton. It mentions that he had left NZ to work in San Francisco. I was able to find a ship "Alameda" leaving Auckland for San Fran in 1886, with a William Compton on board. Then we find that he has returned to Auckland per "Alameda" in 1897 departing San Fran for Auckland. William is aged 29 (correct) and he is #1 Cook. The catch was the NZ Passenger Archives has his place of birth as Wales, then it twigged, it should be New South Wales. I believe that William may have travelled to Sydney alone or with his mother and two siblings, as I have found a William Compton marrying an Elizabeth Taylor in 1899 and on the 1903 Electoral Roll, he and Elizabeth are living in Balmain and his Occupation is a Cook. I have ordered a copy of this marriage certificate. However, what would solve the mystery is if only I could find what ship the family arrived on to disembark in Sydney and when. Once again thank you for your suggestions. If someone can find this family on a ship between 1895 to 1899 sailing from Auckland to Sydney that would be great. However, they may have been here not long after Ernest's Snr's., death in 1890, as both Maud, Ernest and William (if he is the one) would have to get to know their future spouses. Cheers, Janice Belrose, Sydney. ------------------------- Email sent using Optus Webmail