HBH 1892 July 5 p2 VALETTA Telegraphic shipping Per Press Association ALBANY-Monday Arrived-VALETTA from LONDON Passenger for NEW ZEALAND-Mrs FOTHERGILL.

Hi Hugh, What's the deal with these - do you have to manually do them ? I always assumed that they were taken care of automatically by the mailing list software ? Just curious, cheers Dave H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hugh" <hugh@xtra.co.nz> To: <nz-auckland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 6:43 AM Subject: Re: [NZ-AUCKLAND] NZ-AUCKLAND Digest, Vol 2, Issue 84 > My apologies for not taking the email off earlier - it has been done so > this > morning. > > Hugh > listowner > papatoetoe, new zealand > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw > http://www.werelate.org/wiki/User:Kopuru

My apologies for not taking the email off earlier - it has been done so this morning. Hugh listowner papatoetoe, new zealand http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw http://www.werelate.org/wiki/User:Kopuru -----Original Message----- From: nz-auckland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nz-auckland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Meyers Sent: Monday, 11 June 2007 10:43 a.m. To: nz-auckland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NZ-AUCKLAND] NZ-AUCKLAND Digest, Vol 2, Issue 84 Please note that the email from Ray Nelson who is trying to unsubscribe is very sad. Ray is seriously ill and has been an incredible contributor to those seeking relatives in New Zealand. His help to my family has been highly significant and he and Cynthia attended a reunion that would not have been possible, last year, in Auckland. From this list we are losing one of life's Angels. Thank you Ray and God Bless John and Clare Meyers NSW ---Original Message----- From: nz-auckland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nz-auckland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dave H Sent: Sunday, 10 June 2007 8:04 PM To: nz-auckland@rootsweb.com; cynray@paradise.net.nz Subject: Re: [NZ-AUCKLAND] NZ-AUCKLAND Digest, Vol 2, Issue 84 See the bottom of your message (and most others posted to this mailing list) - send an email to NZ-AUCKLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the one word subject of unsubscribe. What have you tried that hasn't worked for you ? Cheers Dave H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cynthia & Ray" <cynray@paradise.net.nz> To: <nz-auckland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [NZ-AUCKLAND] NZ-AUCKLAND Digest, Vol 2, Issue 84 > > > > Hi > > Can you please tell me how to unsubscribe.Nothing I do works. > > > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NZ-AUCKLAND-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of NZ-AUCKLAND Digest, Vol 2, Issue 84 > ****************************************** > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NZ-AUCKLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NZ-AUCKLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NZ-AUCKLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

HBH 1892 July 4 p3 Australia news Saturday New South Wales Sydney A strike of Broken Hill miners is imminent owing to the mine owners insisting on the right to stop getting ore by contract. QUEENSLAND Brisbane An inquiry into the wreck of the Auckland Schooner WAIREKA at Long Island exonerates Captain CURRAN, the Board being of the opinion that the vessel should have been provided with better ground tackle. TASMANIA Hobart The miners of King Junction, Queen and Western mines at Zeehan, have struck against a reduction in wages.

HBH 1892 July 5 p2 CALDWELL and LUCAS DEATHS CALDWELL-On the 4th July, at his mother's residence West Clive, Robert, the second son of the late William CALDWELL, aged 20 years and 3 months. Deeply regretted. May he rest in peace. The funeral will leave his mother's residence on Thursday, at 2 o'clock, for the Napier Cemetery. Friends kindly accept this intimation. LUCAS-On the 4th July at Mrs REID'S, Tennyson Street. Norah Ann, the beloved Wife of William LUCAS, of the Railway Hotel, Port Ahuriri, aged 39. Auckland papers please copy. The funeral will leave the Railway Hotel at 3 o'clock tomorrow (Wednesday) afternoon Friends will please accept this intimation.

puerperal fever aka: childbed fever aka: septicaemia Blood poisoning in a mother shortly after childbirth resulting from infection.... low hygiene..... Very much a case of who died first and who passed who the infection. My Real E-Mail Address is ian.grace@xtra.co.nz Please DO NOT USE 'Reply to sender'

Hi Cynthia just email the nz-auckland@rootsweb.com with the singular word subscribe in email no name nothing else Leone On 10/06/07, Cynthia & Ray <cynray@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > > > > > Hi > > Can you please tell me how to unsubscribe.Nothing I do works. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nz-auckland-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:nz-auckland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > nz-auckland-request@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, 10 June 2007 7:01 p.m. > To: nz-auckland@rootsweb.com > Subject: NZ-AUCKLAND Digest, Vol 2, Issue 84 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. HBH 1892 July 2 4 Parliament Auck content (Elaine Mattsen) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 08:58:15 +1200 > From: Elaine Mattsen <mattsen@paradise.net.nz> > Subject: [NZ-AUCKLAND] HBH 1892 July 2 4 Parliament Auck content > To: nz-auckland@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <001101c7aad8$e732c330$6a23f6d2@mum1> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > HBH 1892 July 2 4 Parliament > > Mr SAUNDERS spoke at some length on the proportional representation > question, and supported the bill. > > Messrs SHERA, BUCKLAND, CAIRNCROSS, MOORE, E.M.SMITH, SANDFORD, ALLEN, > EARNSHAW, BUICK, PINKERTON, T.THOMPSON, HOUSTON, J.W.KELLY, Captain > RUSSELL > also spoke. > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the NZ-AUCKLAND list administrator, send an email to > NZ-AUCKLAND-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the NZ-AUCKLAND mailing list, send an email to > NZ-AUCKLAND@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NZ-AUCKLAND-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of NZ-AUCKLAND Digest, Vol 2, Issue 84 > ****************************************** > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NZ-AUCKLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Please note that the email from Ray Nelson who is trying to unsubscribe is very sad. Ray is seriously ill and has been an incredible contributor to those seeking relatives in New Zealand. His help to my family has been highly significant and he and Cynthia attended a reunion that would not have been possible, last year, in Auckland. From this list we are losing one of life's Angels. Thank you Ray and God Bless John and Clare Meyers NSW ---Original Message----- From: nz-auckland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nz-auckland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dave H Sent: Sunday, 10 June 2007 8:04 PM To: nz-auckland@rootsweb.com; cynray@paradise.net.nz Subject: Re: [NZ-AUCKLAND] NZ-AUCKLAND Digest, Vol 2, Issue 84 See the bottom of your message (and most others posted to this mailing list) - send an email to NZ-AUCKLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the one word subject of unsubscribe. What have you tried that hasn't worked for you ? Cheers Dave H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cynthia & Ray" <cynray@paradise.net.nz> To: <nz-auckland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [NZ-AUCKLAND] NZ-AUCKLAND Digest, Vol 2, Issue 84 > > > > Hi > > Can you please tell me how to unsubscribe.Nothing I do works. > > > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NZ-AUCKLAND-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of NZ-AUCKLAND Digest, Vol 2, Issue 84 > ****************************************** > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NZ-AUCKLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NZ-AUCKLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A more correct term is puerperal fever which is a rise in temperature, following labour, caused by an infection commonly on the inside surface of the uterus after separation of the placenta. Men don't go into labour nor do they have a uterus!! It could be spread from woman to woman by midwives or doctors who were not scrupulous in their cleanliness. Chris in Adelaide -----Original Message----- From: nz-auckland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nz-auckland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ruth Sent: Sunday, 10 June 2007 10:48 PM To: nz-auckland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NZ-AUCKLAND] 1851 AUCKLAND DEATHS The "bloke" would have caught the infection from his wife - childbirth fever was simply a name for another infection that women caught when they were vulnerable following childbirth and its associated trauma. It was mostly to do with poor sanitation and lack of cleanliness and was highly infectious. -----Original Message----- From: nz-auckland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nz-auckland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Chris Ward Sent: 10 June 2007 14:09 To: nz-auckland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NZ-AUCKLAND] 1851 AUCKLAND DEATHS A bloke dying from childbirth fever! Come on!! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NZ-AUCKLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A bloke dying from childbirth fever! Come on!! -----Original Message----- From: nz-auckland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nz-auckland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kathleen Ogg-Moss Sent: Sunday, 10 June 2007 10:27 PM To: nz-auckland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NZ-AUCKLAND] 1851 AUCKLAND DEATHS You will find childbirth fever on google. In my case, the father died first. He was taking care of the mother & baby and running the farm. Kathleen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Hedgcock" <andy701@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <nz-auckland@rootsweb.com>; "michelle" <wreckers@xtra.co.nz> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 7:16 AM Subject: Re: [NZ-AUCKLAND] 1851 AUCKLAND DEATHS > That's intriguing that it affected the husband. Didn't realise it was > somewhat contagious. Piqued my interest enough to go and do some googling > research. > Andy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kathleen Ogg-Moss" <koggmoss@sympatico.ca> > To: "michelle" <wreckers@xtra.co.nz>; <nz-auckland@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 12:10 PM > Subject: Re: [NZ-AUCKLAND] 1851 AUCKLAND DEATHS > > >> They could have died from childbirth fever. It happened to my great >> grandfather's sister & her husband. The baby lived. Kathleen >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "michelle" <wreckers@xtra.co.nz> >> To: <nz-auckland@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 4:52 AM >> Subject: [NZ-AUCKLAND] 1851 AUCKLAND DEATHS >> >> >>> Has any one seen or know what happened in 1851 in Auckland, >>> >>> CHRISTOPHER CHRISTMAS BERRY AND HIS WIFE HARRIET ELIZA BERRY DIED WITHIN >>> 3 >>> WEEKS OF EACH OTHER. >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NZ-AUCKLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NZ-AUCKLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NZ-AUCKLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NZ-AUCKLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Can you please tell me how to unsubscribe.Nothing I do works. -----Original Message----- From: nz-auckland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nz-auckland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of nz-auckland-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 10 June 2007 7:01 p.m. To: nz-auckland@rootsweb.com Subject: NZ-AUCKLAND Digest, Vol 2, Issue 84 Today's Topics: 1. HBH 1892 July 2 4 Parliament Auck content (Elaine Mattsen) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 08:58:15 +1200 From: Elaine Mattsen <mattsen@paradise.net.nz> Subject: [NZ-AUCKLAND] HBH 1892 July 2 4 Parliament Auck content To: nz-auckland@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <001101c7aad8$e732c330$6a23f6d2@mum1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" HBH 1892 July 2 4 Parliament Mr SAUNDERS spoke at some length on the proportional representation question, and supported the bill. Messrs SHERA, BUCKLAND, CAIRNCROSS, MOORE, E.M.SMITH, SANDFORD, ALLEN, EARNSHAW, BUICK, PINKERTON, T.THOMPSON, HOUSTON, J.W.KELLY, Captain RUSSELL also spoke. ------------------------------ To contact the NZ-AUCKLAND list administrator, send an email to NZ-AUCKLAND-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the NZ-AUCKLAND mailing list, send an email to NZ-AUCKLAND@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NZ-AUCKLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of NZ-AUCKLAND Digest, Vol 2, Issue 84 ******************************************

Has any one seen or know what happened in 1851 in Auckland, CHRISTOPHER CHRISTMAS BERRY AND HIS WIFE HARRIET ELIZA BERRY DIED WITHIN 3 WEEKS OF EACH OTHER.

See the bottom of your message (and most others posted to this mailing list) - send an email to NZ-AUCKLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the one word subject of unsubscribe. What have you tried that hasn't worked for you ? Cheers Dave H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cynthia & Ray" <cynray@paradise.net.nz> To: <nz-auckland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [NZ-AUCKLAND] NZ-AUCKLAND Digest, Vol 2, Issue 84 > > > > Hi > > Can you please tell me how to unsubscribe.Nothing I do works. > > > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NZ-AUCKLAND-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of NZ-AUCKLAND Digest, Vol 2, Issue 84 > ****************************************** > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NZ-AUCKLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all I did quite a bit of in-depth googling on this and have seen nothing on various websites (medical and dissertations) that gave any suggestion that men died from puerperal fever. It's an impossiblity as it's an infection of the uterus, which men don't have, or Placental remnants which again men don't have.. Interesting reading on the following; Quote from http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/p/puerperal_fever/basics.htm "Patient Profile for Puerperal fever: Women who gave birth within 10 days to 2 weeks Gender Profile for Puerperal fever: Women only " "What is Puerperal fever? a.. Delayed uterine infection after childbirth b.. serious form of septicemia contracted by a woman during childbirth or abortion (usually attributable to unsanitary conditions); formerly widespread but now uncommon" Regards Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathleen Ogg-Moss" <koggmoss@sympatico.ca> To: <nz-auckland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [NZ-AUCKLAND] 1851 AUCKLAND DEATHS >I would reply to Chris Ward off list but, unfortunately, there is no way I > can do so. Have you never heard of any man getting an infection through a > cut or other wound? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Ward" <ceejay@internode.on.net> > To: <nz-auckland@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 10:23 AM > Subject: Re: [NZ-AUCKLAND] 1851 AUCKLAND DEATHS > > >>A more correct term is puerperal fever which is a rise in temperature, >> following labour, caused by an infection commonly on the inside surface >> of >> the uterus after separation of the placenta. Men don't go into labour >> nor >> do they have a uterus!! It could be spread from woman to woman by >> midwives >> or doctors who were not scrupulous in their cleanliness. >> >> Chris in Adelaide >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nz-auckland-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:nz-auckland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ruth >> Sent: Sunday, 10 June 2007 10:48 PM >> To: nz-auckland@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [NZ-AUCKLAND] 1851 AUCKLAND DEATHS >> >> The "bloke" would have caught the infection from his wife - childbirth >> fever >> was simply a name for another infection that women caught when they were >> vulnerable following childbirth and its associated trauma. It was mostly >> to >> do with poor sanitation and lack of cleanliness and was highly >> infectious. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nz-auckland-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:nz-auckland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Chris Ward >> Sent: 10 June 2007 14:09 >> To: nz-auckland@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [NZ-AUCKLAND] 1851 AUCKLAND DEATHS >> >> A bloke dying from childbirth fever! Come on!! >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NZ-AUCKLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NZ-AUCKLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NZ-AUCKLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Is it me or has this thread gone far enough? Geoff -----Original Message----- From: nz-auckland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nz-auckland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ruth Sent: 10 June 2007 15:33 To: nz-auckland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NZ-AUCKLAND] 1851 AUCKLAND DEATHS Or, of course to men who were desperate for the conjugals! -----Original Message----- From: nz-auckland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nz-auckland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Chris Ward Sent: 10 June 2007 15:23 To: nz-auckland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NZ-AUCKLAND] 1851 AUCKLAND DEATHS A more correct term is puerperal fever which is a rise in temperature, following labour, caused by an infection commonly on the inside surface of the uterus after separation of the placenta. Men don't go into labour nor do they have a uterus!! It could be spread from woman to woman by midwives or doctors who were not scrupulous in their cleanliness. Chris in Adelaide -----Original Message----- From: nz-auckland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nz-auckland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ruth Sent: Sunday, 10 June 2007 10:48 PM To: nz-auckland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NZ-AUCKLAND] 1851 AUCKLAND DEATHS The "bloke" would have caught the infection from his wife - childbirth fever was simply a name for another infection that women caught when they were vulnerable following childbirth and its associated trauma. It was mostly to do with poor sanitation and lack of cleanliness and was highly infectious. -----Original Message----- From: nz-auckland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nz-auckland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Chris Ward Sent: 10 June 2007 14:09 To: nz-auckland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NZ-AUCKLAND] 1851 AUCKLAND DEATHS A bloke dying from childbirth fever! Come on!! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NZ-AUCKLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NZ-AUCKLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NZ-AUCKLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Or, of course to men who were desperate for the conjugals! -----Original Message----- From: nz-auckland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nz-auckland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Chris Ward Sent: 10 June 2007 15:23 To: nz-auckland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NZ-AUCKLAND] 1851 AUCKLAND DEATHS A more correct term is puerperal fever which is a rise in temperature, following labour, caused by an infection commonly on the inside surface of the uterus after separation of the placenta. Men don't go into labour nor do they have a uterus!! It could be spread from woman to woman by midwives or doctors who were not scrupulous in their cleanliness. Chris in Adelaide -----Original Message----- From: nz-auckland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nz-auckland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ruth Sent: Sunday, 10 June 2007 10:48 PM To: nz-auckland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NZ-AUCKLAND] 1851 AUCKLAND DEATHS The "bloke" would have caught the infection from his wife - childbirth fever was simply a name for another infection that women caught when they were vulnerable following childbirth and its associated trauma. It was mostly to do with poor sanitation and lack of cleanliness and was highly infectious. -----Original Message----- From: nz-auckland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nz-auckland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Chris Ward Sent: 10 June 2007 14:09 To: nz-auckland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NZ-AUCKLAND] 1851 AUCKLAND DEATHS A bloke dying from childbirth fever! Come on!! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NZ-AUCKLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NZ-AUCKLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The "bloke" would have caught the infection from his wife - childbirth fever was simply a name for another infection that women caught when they were vulnerable following childbirth and its associated trauma. It was mostly to do with poor sanitation and lack of cleanliness and was highly infectious. -----Original Message----- From: nz-auckland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nz-auckland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Chris Ward Sent: 10 June 2007 14:09 To: nz-auckland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NZ-AUCKLAND] 1851 AUCKLAND DEATHS A bloke dying from childbirth fever! Come on!!

I would reply to Chris Ward off list but, unfortunately, there is no way I can do so. Have you never heard of any man getting an infection through a cut or other wound? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Ward" <ceejay@internode.on.net> To: <nz-auckland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [NZ-AUCKLAND] 1851 AUCKLAND DEATHS >A more correct term is puerperal fever which is a rise in temperature, > following labour, caused by an infection commonly on the inside surface of > the uterus after separation of the placenta. Men don't go into labour nor > do they have a uterus!! It could be spread from woman to woman by > midwives > or doctors who were not scrupulous in their cleanliness. > > Chris in Adelaide > > -----Original Message----- > From: nz-auckland-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:nz-auckland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ruth > Sent: Sunday, 10 June 2007 10:48 PM > To: nz-auckland@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NZ-AUCKLAND] 1851 AUCKLAND DEATHS > > The "bloke" would have caught the infection from his wife - childbirth > fever > was simply a name for another infection that women caught when they were > vulnerable following childbirth and its associated trauma. It was mostly > to > do with poor sanitation and lack of cleanliness and was highly infectious. > > -----Original Message----- > From: nz-auckland-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:nz-auckland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Chris Ward > Sent: 10 June 2007 14:09 > To: nz-auckland@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NZ-AUCKLAND] 1851 AUCKLAND DEATHS > > A bloke dying from childbirth fever! Come on!! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NZ-AUCKLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NZ-AUCKLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

And also spread by doctors not washing their hands. And men did die from it. Kathleen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth" <orange.wasps@ntlworld.com> To: <nz-auckland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [NZ-AUCKLAND] 1851 AUCKLAND DEATHS > The "bloke" would have caught the infection from his wife - childbirth > fever > was simply a name for another infection that women caught when they were > vulnerable following childbirth and its associated trauma. It was mostly > to > do with poor sanitation and lack of cleanliness and was highly infectious. > > -----Original Message----- > From: nz-auckland-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:nz-auckland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Chris Ward > Sent: 10 June 2007 14:09 > To: nz-auckland@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NZ-AUCKLAND] 1851 AUCKLAND DEATHS > > A bloke dying from childbirth fever! Come on!! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NZ-AUCKLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

That's intriguing that it affected the husband. Didn't realise it was somewhat contagious. Piqued my interest enough to go and do some googling research. Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathleen Ogg-Moss" <koggmoss@sympatico.ca> To: "michelle" <wreckers@xtra.co.nz>; <nz-auckland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 12:10 PM Subject: Re: [NZ-AUCKLAND] 1851 AUCKLAND DEATHS > They could have died from childbirth fever. It happened to my great > grandfather's sister & her husband. The baby lived. Kathleen > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "michelle" <wreckers@xtra.co.nz> > To: <nz-auckland@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 4:52 AM > Subject: [NZ-AUCKLAND] 1851 AUCKLAND DEATHS > > >> Has any one seen or know what happened in 1851 in Auckland, >> >> CHRISTOPHER CHRISTMAS BERRY AND HIS WIFE HARRIET ELIZA BERRY DIED WITHIN >> 3 >> WEEKS OF EACH OTHER. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NZ-AUCKLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NZ-AUCKLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >