This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Guyanoga1 Surnames: Barse Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.yates/1811.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This is not one of the names you listed, but Barse is not all that common. I came across the following today in the Western Star, a Penn Yan, NY newspaper dated Tuesday, Oct. 16, 1832 on page 3: Married - In Starkey, on the 13th inst. by Rev. Mr. Adgate, Mr. Warren ( )ills, to Miss Lavina Barse, both of this village. [The Printers were remembered.] () This was on the edge of the page and was illegible. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gbarse1 Surnames: Barse Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.yates/1811.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have actually never heard of Barse Miller until recently. I once discovered that there used to be a French villa named Barse. Because George came over in 1792, I fantasized that we were once French aristocracy and fled the country during the revolution and reached the US via Holland. Of course, nothing backs up my imagination and no reparations have appeared from the French government, so my outlandish story remains fiction. I have always been told that Barse comes from the Dutch word for Perch (as in the fish, not the verb). So, I can only assume my family in the old country were fishermen. I did come across Barses throughout history in odd locations. I found one in 15th or 16th Scandanavia. I also found a de la Barse in Mexico. There is a Barse jewelry company based out of Dallas. They named themselves after the artist. They have ignored my e-mails thus far. "Barse" is also unflattering slang in the UK. Sincerely, G. R. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: allrelated Surnames: Barse, Barsh Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.yates/1811.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, G.R., Thanks for responding; yes, I've seen your lineage on Ancestry, including the reference to the 1792 emigration to the US from Holland. Your family seems to be pretty well researched, post US-arrival. Have you been able to document yet where in Holland they came from? What I cannot find is why my Barse family believed that our two families were related! I have since my original email traced my Barses back to *Germany* not Holland, and have discovered that the name was originally spelled Barsh, Beersh, Bertsch, Buers, etc. Our emigrant ancestor was Ludwig Buers (Pares, Bertsch, etc.)who came to NY in 1710 and was a Palatine refugee. The family tradition was that our Barses were Dutch, and on our written family tree was listed what is probably a great-great...grandfather of yours, George Randolph Barse, Sr. Once I started doing my own research, I realized that there was *no* way that he could have been my 2x greatgrandfather, never having had a son named John Frederick Barse! Now William B. Barse is in that spot on the tree. My greatgrandmother, Susan Belle Barse (m. Warren Hastings Miller)was an artist, as was their son Barse Miller. The family apparently joked that there were only two successful artists in the family, George Randolph Barse, Jr. and Barse Miller. Do you have any tradition in your family of Barse Miller being related? I find it quite a puzzle! I kept thinking that the original 1792 emigrant's brother/son Charles might have been our emigrant, but once I discovered that our Barse spelling only came about in the early 1800s and traced it back through the variants, well, I'm not sure it's a mystery that will be solved. :) Lorraine Allrelated Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gbarse1 Surnames: Barse Classification: immigration Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.yates/1811.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am a Barse and my family came over from Holland in 1792. I am also the sixth G. R. in my line. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

There is a detailed explanation of how to obtain copies of NYS Vital Records on the most recent Upstate New York Genealogy Blog at http://ny-genes.blogspot.com or by going to the main website at www.unyg.comand selecting the tab labeled "UNYG Blog".

Google has an interest in DNA testing. This is news for genealogists in all counties. Anne Wojcicki, Wife of Google co-founder, has started a company, 23andme, with goals to test the DNA of 98% of the whole world! Read about it on the Upstate New York Genealogy Blog by going to our website at www.unyg.com and clicking on "UNYG Blog". Dick Hillenbrand

With a fair and advance notice.... SAMPUBCO is going green. Effective March 1, paper copy will not be available except in extreme case (scan copy may not work in few cases). Only scanned images will be sent out after March 1st. W. David Samuelsen SAMPUBCO http://www.sampubco.com/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: g1234a Surnames: Houghtaling, Brown Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.yates/816.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Tom, I am descended from Mariah Houghtaling & Stephen Brown and have been at a brick wall with them for several years. Thank you for your post. I would be interested in any further info that you have on these two or their ancestors. Also, if you could tell me what your sources are I can do some more digging on my own. Thanks. Gary Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gmurdock156 Surnames: Murdock, DeCento, Lamoreaux Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.yates/1063.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, My name's Gannon Douglas Murdock. My father died in 1991 in Tacoma, Wa. His name was Francis Henry Murdock. It is my understanding that he lived in Penn. and New Jersey. To the best of my knowledge his mother's name was Florence DeCento, Florence Lamoreaux, and Florence Murdock. There may have been one more name that I don't know. I was never sure about the truthfulness of what my father told my mother and I, so I do not know for sure. Was Florence married multiple times, having three husbands and children with each? Did she ever have a son named Frank or Francis? I know you wanted help here, but I'm the one who needs it now. Thank you! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: s42austin Surnames: Carpenter, Yost, Viselius, Ostrander, Wiley, Carothers, Howe, Helems, Raplee, Galoway, Lafever, Howard Classification: bible Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.yates/1829/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Family Record Marriages Henry Carpenter and Sarah Viscelius was married Dec. 6th, 1810 Henry Carpenter Jr. was marryed to Azuba Ostrander November 15th, 1840 Joseph H Carpenter and Almaranta E Carpenter were married Aug. 4th A. D. 1863 Benjamin E. Carpenter and Mary A. Wiley were married May 22nd AD1864 Benjamin E. Carpenter and Mary J. Carothers were married Jan 17 AD 1872 Hope Carpenter and Phebe Yost were married Feb. 24th, 1788 Henry Carpenter and Sarah Viscelius were married Dec. 6th, 1810 John D. Carpenter and Cornelia Howe were married Dec. 27th, 1837 Jacob Y. Carpenter and Mary Helms were married Feb. 23rd, 1819 John Dewitt and Sarah Carpenter were married July 4th 1818 Joseph H. Carpenter and Sarah Raplee were married Dec. 1816 Garner Carpenter and Elisabeth Galoway were married Jan. 6th 1825 Francis A Howard and Elizabeth Carpenter were married Dec. 25th 1830 Louis Lewis J. Lafever and Jane Maria Carpenter were married Feb. 1st 1835 Births, page 1 Henry Carpenter was born on tusday January 20th 1789 Sarah Viselius was born May 28th 1784 Phebe Carpenter was born April 12th 1814 Henry Carpenter was born July 13th 1817 Sarah Carpenter was born November 11th 1825 Joseph Hope Carpenter was born October 15 1841 Benjamin Carpenter was born May 30th, 1843 Daniel Dewitt Carpenter was born Oct 29th 1845 Azubah Ostrander was born March the 14, 1821 Josephine Dane Carpenter born Oct 23 1849 Bertha May Carpenter Jennings born Mar 1 1874 Josephine Jennings Nicholas born Mar 2 1897 William Jennings Jr. Born May 31, 1903 Births, page 2 Hope Carpenter was born March 16th 1757 Phebe Yost Carpenter was born May 8 1773 wife of Hope Carpenter Henry Carpenter was born Jan 20 1788 Jacob Y Carpenter was born Nov 11th 1790 Joseph Carpenter was born Sept 25th 1792 Daniel Carpenter was born Feb. 28th 1795 Joseph H Carpenter was born Aug 6th 1796 Sarah Carpenter was born Jan 8th 1799 Benjamin Carpenter was born Feb 18th 1801 Garner H. Carpenter was born Jan 30th 1803 Tasa Ann Carpenter was born Oct. 13th 1807 Elizabeth Carpenter was born Jan 15th 1810 John D Carpenter was born March 17th 1812 Jane Maria Carpenter was born May 9th 1815 Cora Edith Carpenter was born Thursday Dec. 18 1817 Henry Dewitt Carpenter was born Sunday Sept 10 1876 he was the son of Benjamin Carpenter . C. (S. or E.) C. daughter of B. E. C. Deaths Sarah Carpenter died June 7th 1826 Phebe Carpenter died September 16th 1831 Sarah Carpenter died February 5th 1852 Henry Carpenter died April 28th 1867 Henry J Carpenter died August 28th 1872 Azubah Carpenter died August 10, 1873 Joseph Hope Carpenter Died at Clare Mich Friday Dec. 3rd 1903 Hope Carpenter deceased May 4th 1840 Joseph Carpenter deceased July 15th 1794 Daniel Carpenter deceased August 15th 1795 Phebe wife of Hope Carpenter died Oct. 14th 1854 Joseph Halsey Carpenter Died April 12th 1861 Cora E. Carpenter Died Oct 15 1902 This Bible may have a 1832 printing date, but a sales slip enclosed states that it was purchased in the 1880's for 5 dollars paid in installment of $1 each. I believe that this is the Bible of Henry Carpenter Jr. (Hope's grandson) and Azubah Ostrander. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Recent Blog activity on our Upstate New York Genealogy website at www.unyg.com has an easy to understand article about DNA testing for genealogical purposes. There is also a Blog about Ephemera for genealogy, and a full description about how to take advantage of all of the features of unyg.com. Tomorrow we will have a year's end review and predictions for 2008. Happy New Year to all of our readers, Dick Hillenbrand. Upstate New York Genealogy www.unyg.com

Read a 1931 newspaper account of the Daughters of the American Revolution (DAR,) marking the graves of 595 Revolutionary War Soldiers that were buried in Onondaga County. The soldiers names and burial locations are listed within. Go to www.unyg.com, click on the "UNYG Blog" at the top of the page to read this story. Dick Hillenbrand - Upstate New York Genealogy - www.unyg.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: aurina Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.yates/1822.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: glad to be of help, just pass it forward Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cherielynn251 Surnames: Van Devort Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.yates/1822.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: amazing Information for the Van Devort family and any New York family for that matter!!! thank you so much, your help and guidance is really beyond all. best regards, Cherie Lynn Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pwest10 Surnames: Sproule Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.yates/1828/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have in my possession the 1915-1916 yearbook (The Periscope)of the Geneseo Normal School that has this persons picture. If anyone is interested, please let me know and I will send to you. Thanks, Pennie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

If you are interested in good maps, or plan on doing any land research anywhere in New York State, then you will likely want to read my review of one of the very best New York State Atlases available. You will find the article on the Upstate New York Genealogy Blogsite, by going to www.unyg.com and clicking on the "UNYG Blog" tab at the top. Dick Hillenbrand - www.unyg.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: keuka285 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.yates/1827/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If you are reasearching in Yates County, New York why not consider a membership in the Yates County Genealogical & Historical Society? We have an excellent 12-page monthly newsletter, a gift shop with many books of local interest, and a fine research facility in Penn Yan NY along with our two museums. Memberships start at $20. See our website at www.yatespast.org for more details. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: aurina Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.yates/1824.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: not an indian name,just a very old name, many had it incld rear admiral melancton smith, us navy, who served in the Union Navy during the American Civil War and the seminole war -He was the son of Colonel Melancton Smith, an officer during the War of 1812, and grandson of Melancton Smith, a Continental Congressman. not related, just a genealogy helper. most family stories abt the full-blooded indian princess or chiefs son or whatever turn out to be family legend, so dont let it confuse the issue when searching. if u go to www.fultonhistory.com and type in freeland jones, u will find a neat story abt him finding 2 people very lost up near raquette lake-called him one of the best known guides in the blue mt area- Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: aurina Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.yates/1822.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: not related. please go to www.fultonhistory.com and type in van devort and click on exact. bless this man for his free website. (does accept contributions) could not cut and paste, can barley read but seems william henry died fri am 30 dec at home of his daughter mrs bertha corcoran of 1?6?7 eastman ave, he was ?57? leaving wife catherine, daughters ellaof gotham; mrs bertha corcoran; mrs ray bigham of reeds corners , ny; mrs floyd ? hiltman? of east rochester; mrs harry kestan of this city; sons george of this city; arthur r of cleveland; peters funeral home; riverside cemstery. search creatively on all family members; using shortcuts will loose u info. son georges obit 1939/ also hard to read, he died 4 april 1939? at hospital, buried at woodlawn, canandaigua, says ella in gorham, not gotham, hiltman may be hillmire or hiltmire and mrs harry kester of churchville. there is more incld some court cases, georges divorce from viola, a cornelius, a couple of thomas',an avis, a! harriett, death of a thomas spencer who has a wm and a cornelius among others-- i didnt spend a lot of time looking-i am sure u can find more ! !many refered to only by initials which is why u should just type in last name in all of its spellings. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: aurina Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.yates/947.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: you should repost your query with the surnames in the subject line spacing between them, not using slashes so others searching the same surnames will be able to pick them up. also, note dates-1700's? 1800's? what? and specifically what you are hunting-nothing more irritaing than spending hrs finding and posting to hear-oh, thanks , but i already have all of that. not related, i just do a lot of research for other people online Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.