This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: myadamsline Surnames: Adams Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.yates/1865/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have a John Adams born about 1770 who arrived in Monroe, MI by 1820. His children were born in VT, NY and possibly Canada. In 1833, a John Adams "of Yates, NY" purchased land in St. Joseph, MI. I believe this was the same John Adams. I further believe this John Adams was the father of Asa Adams born about 1806 in NY who according to his son Elias lived in Monroe, MI, Elkhart/LaGrange, IN and Muscatine, IA and died in Kansas City, MO about 1862. This is all very confusing because according to other researchers there was an Asa P. Adams from Yates, son of Asahel, who died in St. Louis, MO after 1865. Both of these Asas had sons named Elias (though by different wives). Moreover, there was an Asa Pierce Adams who bought land in MI and IN about the time my Asa Adams lived there. Furthermore, according to a John Adams who has posted on this board in the past, his Asa divorced his first wife. My Asa was divorced by his second wife (of a different name). I suppose it is possible that there was one Asa Adams, son of Asahel aka John Adams, who had 4 wives and died not in KS City but in St. Louis. But that seems a little far-fetched. I would very much appreciate help in sorting out the parentage, etc. of this John Adams and Asa Adams. You can see what I've done so far on my Ancestry page for John Adams, http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/person.aspx?tid=5570884&pid... Thank you! Karen Adams Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lraybuck Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.yates/1864.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you. I don't know much about that area up there. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Guyanoga1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.yates/1864.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: It can get confusing when researching in this area because it is in the area where Yates, Steuben, and Ontario Counties all meet. You may want to give them a look as well. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/yates/yatesresources.htm Here is a resource page for Yates county, that may be useful -----Original Message----- From: nyyates-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyyates-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gc-gateway@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:18 PM To: NYYATES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYYATES] Douglass Family This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lraybuck Surnames: Douglas Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.ya tes/1864/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have been looking for ties to the Yates area for a while now. Oliver (1803 b NY) and Elenor ? Douglass were married Feb. 3, 1823 in Italy Hollow, NY. They had children Ledran 1823, Abigail 1825, Mary Jane 1827, Benjamin 1829, Elenor 1835 and Asa O.1839. I know by 1850 Oliver and Elenor are living in Clarion County, PA near their daughter Mary Jane who had married a Miller. I am stuck on this family. Looking for any help out there. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYYATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lraybuck Surnames: Douglas Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.yates/1864/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have been looking for ties to the Yates area for a while now. Oliver (1803 b NY) and Elenor ? Douglass were married Feb. 3, 1823 in Italy Hollow, NY. They had children Ledran 1823, Abigail 1825, Mary Jane 1827, Benjamin 1829, Elenor 1835 and Asa O.1839. I know by 1850 Oliver and Elenor are living in Clarion County, PA near their daughter Mary Jane who had married a Miller. I am stuck on this family. Looking for any help out there. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gigimo7850 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.yates/493.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have information on the William Lecouver family. Children are Etta, William, Anna, Arthur and Nellie. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kdefoster Surnames: Fisher, Bardeen Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.yates/1863/mb.ashx Message Board Post: John Fisher, born c. 1750, NJ; d. after 1832, Naples, Ontario, NY >From Genealogical Abstracts of Revolutionary War Pension Files (V.D. White, 1991), V. II, p. 1199: John Fisher, NJ Line. Born 03 April about the year 1750 at Englishtown, Monmouth, NJ; he lived there at the time of his enlistment. In 1782, he moved to Tripes Hill near Schenectady, NY (Schenectady co.) for one year and then moved to Johnstown, NY (Fulton co.) for five years and then to Niskayuna, NY (Schenectady co.). Other places he lived were Stillwater, NY (Saratoga co.), Stone Arabia, NY (Montogomery co.), Schoharie, NY (Schoharie co.) and Seneca near Geneva in Ontario county, NY before settling in 1818 in Naples, Ontario county, NY. Soldier applied there for a pension on 26 August 1832. He was married and had a family before the start of the Revolutionary War. In 1854, a Jeremiah or Jeremith Fisher of Italy, Yates co., NY made inquiry but no relationship to the soldier was stated. The present names of the counties were added by me for those not familiar with the area. Before 1818, the towns John Fisher lived in were in the counties of Albany and Montgomery. A John Fisher is found in the 1830 federal census living in Naples, Ontario, NY. He is 80 to 90 years old and living with him are a female between the ages of 15 and 20 and one between 50 and 60. A Jeremiah Fisher shows up in Italy, Yates, NY in the 1855 NY census. He is 73 years old and born in NJ; he is possbily the person who made the inquiry about John Fisher's pension. Elizabeth, wife of Jeremiah, was born in Schoharie county, NY as are several other Fishers found in Italy in this census. My goal is to discover if this John Fisher is the father of James Fisher who was born c. 1782 and died February 1850 in Italy, Yates, NY. There is reason to believe that Jeremiah and James were brothers. James was the husband of Rachel Gillet Fisher and father to my third great-grandmother, Hannah Fisher Bardeen, b. 1823. Any clues would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Kathy This has also been posted to the Ontario county message board. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: keukakid208 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.yates/1862.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Kathy, I was one of those "average Americans" and never would have come close to how Kirkcudbright should be pronounced. What a wonderful opportunity you had in going to Scotland. I sure didn't need to touch on Scotland's geography with you. I thought you'd gained your knowledge from afar, but you've been there. I know now that the various McConnell's I have living in the Yates/Steuben area are not neccessarly connected. As you are McConnell descendent you have access to more information than I do. It's interesting that your line was once in Seneca county. My Hults/Hulse line came from there as well. Perhaps they knew one another and migrated to Steuben together. Another coinsidence is Hulse McConnell. His family was in Steuben prior to my family, and have wondered at times how his parents came to give him such an unusual name unless there was some connection. You probably already know this, but depending on what year, and where in Steuben your family settled in the early 1800s they could have "moved" to Yates without moving at all. In 1823 when Yates county was formed many of those living in that area of Steuben became residents of Yates. In that area it's no wonder so many Steuben/Yates residents intermarried. One could live in Branchport and just about throw a stone into Steuben. No, I'm not related to, or know, Alan Coombs, nor am I aware of the CD you mention. I would have to see it to see if there is a connection. I could go on and on about this ancient family, but won't. Bruce Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kdefoster Surnames: McConnell, Kennedy Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.yates/1862.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Bruce, You're probably right about the pronouncation of Kirkcudbright; it's been years since I was told how to pronounce it. Either way is much closer than the way the average American might attempt to say it. It's lovely country. My husband and I spent about a week in southwest Scotland in 2006 and another week traveling between Glasgow and Stonehaven, stopping in St. Andrew's to play golf. It would be impossible to say which area was our favorite. If any McConnells were still in Troquhain in the 1840s, they were not my direct line. I trace my direct McConnell line to Northumberland county, PA during the Revolutionary War. From there, they settled in Seneca county, NY then on to Steuben, arriving in Yates county in the early 1800s. In order to sort out all the McConnells in the Steuben-Yates ares, I've traced the other McConnell lines and determined that my line is not connected to that of your Hulse/Hults line. There may also be a third unrelated McConnell line in the area. The family history states that our line left Scotland in the late 1600s/early 1700s and spent a generation or two in northern Ireland before arriving in the colonies. That is why I'm trying to find out why my great-grandfather referred to Troquhain as our home village. I may never know but was hoping that you could provide a clue. Are you related to Alan Coombs? I found his chart on the Kennedys years ago on a Family Tree Maker CD. Thanks for your help. Kathy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: keukakid208 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.yates/1862.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Kathy, Please understand that I have not done any in depth research on the McConnell surname ( although I have 25 McConnell's in my file )except to record information when I came across it in connection with my Kennedy research. Nor have I tried to make a connection between the McConnell/Kennedy connection's in Scotland to the McConnell/ Kennedy connection's in Yates/Steuben counties, although I believe their is. Nor do I know where they originally came from in Scotland. There are various other Kennedy/McConnell connections in Scotland durning the early 1800's. Probably the most important connection is the very successful Kennedy (John ) & McConnell Company which was in the textile business during the late 1700's early 1800's. In 1829 John's daughter, Margaret, married, Henry McConnell, whom I believe was the son of his partner. I failed to answer your question about wheather or not McConnell's were in Troquhain at the same time as Barbara's family. I do not know. Had I not just given up my Ancestry subscription, I would check the 1841 census for Scotland for you. I do not need to tell you how right you are as to locations in Scotland. Over the years I've done quite a lot of research into the history of that area of Southwest Scotland simply because the Kennedy Clan traces their history from a time before there was a Scotland. My Kennedy ancestors comes from Kells Parish in Kircudbrightshire, which still exists today and is adjecent to Dumfriesshire. Ironically I had a friend & neighbor whose family came from Kells, and his brother went their each year. From him I learned to pronounce Kirkcudbright, coo-coo-bree. Perhaps you would be willing to share what you have on your McConnell family that I may be able to connect. I think there is a possibility that they connect to my grandmothers Hulse/Hults family. Bruce Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: keukakid208 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.yates/1862.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Kathy, For the time being I'll have to resort to memory until I dig through my research records as I haven't worked on this family file for some years. Various Kennedy family members kept up with their line over the years and added to it as time went on. The original manuscript, was published in 1884, and outlines the family history from 884 to 1884. I believe that that is where I first came across a Kennedy/McConnell connection. When I started some ten years ago I did a lot of research in Scotland. The "MacConnell Family Genealogy"(McConnell,M'Connell)is correct in that Barbara A. Kennedy did come from Troquhain, where she was born. The family immigrated to America in 1847, so her being age 8 would be correct. She was a twin to Jane H. The next two siblings were born in Lockside, Balmaclellen, Scotland where I believe they emmigrated from. Sorry, Kathy, I'll stop here for now, as my mind tends to wander. I will get back to you! Bruce Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kdefoster Surnames: McConnell, Kennedy Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.yates/1862/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Bruce, In your previous message, you state that you know of a connection between these two families in Scotland. I'm very interested in hearing about it. In her unpublished manuscript entitled "MacConnell Family Genealogy," my father's cousin, Margaret McConnell Snyder, late of Branchport, NY writes, "On April 14, 1860, Joseph Gillette McConnell married Barbara A. Kennedy, who came from the home village of Troquhain, Scotland at the age of about 8 and with her parents settled in this area." I'm not sure exactly what Margaret meant by this. Did she mean that Troquhain was the home of both families in Scotland? Or just that of the Kennedys? Do you have any information that would support this? I've been looking for the origin of our McConnell line for years. It appears that the information that Margaret got from her grandfather, Edward A. McConnell (1863-1939), is inaccurate and at times confusing, like many family stories that have been handed down over the years in oral form. In her introduction, Margaret mentions that the MacConnell line "starts back in Scotland in the 1600s near Edinburgh in the Scottish highlands in a small village called then Troquhain." Any map of Scotland shows that Edinburgh is far from the highlands and Troquhain is far from Edinburgh, if you can find Troquhain on a map. It no longer exists as a town or village. It's an area near New Galloway in the county now called Dumfries & Galloway that used to be Kirkcudbright (pronounced kee-cul-bree, or so I'm told. Go figure). I wouldn't be surprised if neither Margaret nor my great-grandfather has access to a map of Scotland that showed it; I had to purchase of copy of one from 1885 in order to find it. I'd be happy to send you a copy of this map, if you'd like one. Thanks for anything you can add to this. Kathy kdefoster@aol.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kdefoster Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.yates/1861.1.2.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Bruce, I'm very interested in learning what you know about the connection between the McConnells and the Kennedys and will address it under that heading. Please look for it. Thanks. Kathy kdefoster@aol.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: keukakid208 Surnames: Fisher, McConnell, Kennedy, Henderson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.yates/1861.1.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Kathy, It now appears that what I sent you you were well aware of, which still leaves you in the dark. I didn't think I would be of much help, but you never know how much research one has done. However my main reason for replying was the Kennedy surname. I'm also familier with the McConnell family which I believe was long connected to the Kennedy family in Scotland. I have neither your John or Alexander J., but if I understand you correctly Alexander J. is the father of the Joseph G. whom married Barbara Kennedy. Francis' sister, Mary, is my ggg-grandmother. She married Matthew Henderson who also came from Scotland. Thank you for the additional Fisher information which I've added to the file. Bruce A. Sherwood, Sr. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kdefoster Surnames: Bardeen, Gillet Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.yates/1861.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for your interest in this. Since I live so far away, years ago I bought the entire Yates County Cemeteries set, plus many of books written about the area. Cyrus Bardeen is my 2nd great-uncle and Emogene Gillett is my first cousin four times removed. I was admitted to the DAR based on the service of her grandfather, Jabez Gillet, who is my fourth great-grandfather. I have a lot of information on both of these families. My interest in Hannah and her sister Abigail developed while looking for documentation on the Bardeens back to Moses Bardeen (1756-1837?), the Revolutionary War veteran, trying to prove that he is the father of Calvin Bardeen, my fourth great-grandfather. As is often the case, I got sidetracked and started filling in the blanks of other ancestors. Cyrus is an interesting fellow. I'll post what I've found about him soon. I appreciate your interest and assistance. Aloha, Kathy McConnell Hudson Kailua, Hawaii Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: norsen1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.yates/1861.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Kathy, Cyrus Bardeen married Emogene Gillett and they are in County line or Barker cemetery with more Bardeens and Fishers. http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/yates/ceme/countylineceme.htm Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/yates/ceme/segarceme.htm Here is a listing of the Yates Co. cemetery and here is the main page http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/yates/ Use the search engine on the family name. -----Original Message----- From: nyyates-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyyates-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gc-gateway@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 2:34 PM To: NYYATES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYYATES] Hannah Fisher Bardeen, 1823 - ? This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kdefoster Surnames: Fisher, Bardeen, McConnell, Kennedy Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.ya tes/1861.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Bruce, Yes, it does appear at first glance that she is buried in the Segar Cemetery, but since you read my message, you now know that there are reasons to believe that she is NOT. In addition to family history that has been passed down through the years, I've also found information on the Fishers from Yates County Cemeteries (Dumas & Conybeare) and Cleveland's History of Yates County, NY, the census records and documents from the county archives. Phoebe Jane Fisher, the youngest of eight, had four brothers and three sisters: Samuel J. (c. 1818), Rachel (c. 1819), Jeremiah (c. 1821), Abigail (c. 1822), Hannah, June 1823, James (c. 1826) and Hiram (c. 1830). I'm also related to the Fishers through Abigail, who married John McConnell, the brother of my third great-grandfather, Alexander J. McConnell. She's another Fisher sister who is missing in action. When and where she's buried is another mystery. They lived in Howard, Steuben, NY but are not related to the many McConnells living there. Which sister of Francis Maitland Kennedy is your ggg-grandmother? His sister Barbara married Joseph Gillette McConnell, the son of Alexander J. McConnell. Thanks for your help and your interest. Kathy McConnell Hudson Kailua, Hawaii Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYYATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kdefoster Surnames: Fisher, Bardeen, McConnell, Kennedy Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.yates/1861.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Bruce, Yes, it does appear at first glance that she is buried in the Segar Cemetery, but since you read my message, you now know that there are reasons to believe that she is NOT. In addition to family history that has been passed down through the years, I've also found information on the Fishers from Yates County Cemeteries (Dumas & Conybeare) and Cleveland's History of Yates County, NY, the census records and documents from the county archives. Phoebe Jane Fisher, the youngest of eight, had four brothers and three sisters: Samuel J. (c. 1818), Rachel (c. 1819), Jeremiah (c. 1821), Abigail (c. 1822), Hannah, June 1823, James (c. 1826) and Hiram (c. 1830). I'm also related to the Fishers through Abigail, who married John McConnell, the brother of my third great-grandfather, Alexander J. McConnell. She's another Fisher sister who is missing in action. When and where she's buried is another mystery. They lived in Howard, Steuben, NY but are not related to the many McConnells living there. Which sister of Francis Maitland Kennedy is your ggg-grandmother? His sister Barbara married Joseph Gillette McConnell, the son of Alexander J. McConnell. Thanks for your help and your interest. Kathy McConnell Hudson Kailua, Hawaii Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kdefoster Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.yates/1861.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for the links to the on-line submissions for the Segar Cemetery. I'm aware of those but also have copies of older lists, one from Elizabeth Blodgett, a reseacher from Naples, NY, that states that the stone for Hannah Bardeen, wife of Moses, is in pieces, and Jim Hope's 1977 report on that cemetery that doesn't mention Hannah Bardeen at all. I doubt that she is buried there and will continue to look for her elsewhere. Thanks again. I appreciate your interest. Kathy McConnell Hudson ggg-granddaughter of Hannah Fisher Bardeen Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: norsen1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.yates/1861.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Segar cemetery http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nysteube/pr/pr5.html or http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/yates/ceme/segarceme.htm Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.