Hi Dianne, I'm so sorry for not mentioning that I do have Ancestry and thus have this info. Its just that I am stuck on the maiden names for the wives of John Simon Williams and Arnold Louis Kuhnast. I have tried the grooms' index before but perhaps they have added more names. I'll try again. Thanks for the suggestion. I was wondering if the CD mentioned had more complete records than what I've been able to find online. I appreciate your time and effort. Carol maranath@earthlink.net wrote: >>if Arnold KUHNAST, married to Agnes Unknown, 13 Sept., 1886 is on the CD. I would like to find my great grandmother's maiden name. She was born 1861 and died 1909. I hope this info is on that CD; I would be happy to buy it for that alone! Arnold Kuhnast was a gentleman's tailor.<< Carol ~ I don't know if you have the 1900 census, but they appear in Manhattan then..... Kuhnust, Arnold, head, b. May, 1863, age 37,married 12 yrs., b. Germany, parents b. Germany, immigrated 1884, naturalized, tailor - men's ", Agnes, wife, b. Mar 1861, age 39, married 12 yrs., 9 children/ 6 living, b. Germany, parents b. Germany, immigrated 1880. with children Henry, age 11; Willie, age 10; Annie, age 8; Frederick, age 6; Edward, age 4; and George, age 2. Year:?1900; Census?Place:?Manhattan,?New York,?New York; Roll:?T623?1116; Page:?3A; Enumeration?District:?808. You might be able to find him in the Groom's Index at the Italiangen or German Genealogy Gen sites....... Hope this helps, Dianne