Here is what a post looks like when you just hit reply and repeat all the previous messages. Please remember to just include what is needed for your reply to make sense. These are so hard and time-consuming to scroll through. thanks, Elizabeth W. Knowlton > [Original Message] > From: <nywestch-request@rootsweb.com> > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > Date: 3/29/2007 11:58:05 PM > Subject: NYWESTCH Digest, Vol 2, Issue 96 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Vital Records & drivers license (Regina Haring) > 2. Re: Vital Records & drivers license (WOLF6PACK@aol.com) > 3. Re: marriage license (Joan Martin) > 4. Re: Yonkers Vital Records (quillpen1) > 5. Re: Vital Records & drivers license (quillpen1) > 6. Re: marriage license (quillpen1) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 21:16:41 -0400 > From: "Regina Haring" <rmharing@att.net> > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Vital Records & drivers license > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <019801c77269$1547ad60$17874b0c@IBM829F496010C> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > My worst experience was in Rockland County, where the clerk was indignant > that I tried to read - upside down - the entries in the marriage register of > 100+ years ago. As though my eyes were going to take something away...... > Regina Haring > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mert & Holly Kilpatrick" <kilpatrk@epix.net> > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 9:01 PM > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Vital Records & drivers license > > > >I will be very interested to hear the outcome. I STILL have a bad taste in > > my mouth from my interaction with the Port Chester clerk. Very > > unpleasant. > > Yes, I have seen books where some jerk ripped a page out, and I can > > certainly understand if they don't want people handling the books without > > supervision, but to act as if the sky will fall if I happen to see someone > > else's name from 1890...when I can go 5 miles over the CT border and sit > > down and peruse the books all morning. How could the privacy needs be so > > different 5 miles apart? > > Holly > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 22:04:09 EDT > From: WOLF6PACK@aol.com > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Vital Records & drivers license > To: nywestch@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <cc5.de99e89.333dca19@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > It was only maybe 6 or 7 years ago and we were on a vacation/genealogy > research trip in West Virginia. We walked into the office in Charleston and got > copies of my husband's LIVING aunts and uncles BIRTH certs without any ID and > they were something ridiculous like $3.00 each! They did not have one of his > aun'ts birth record so we looked on the microfilms at the Archives, my > husband found it and we drove to the town where she was born and got a certified > copy for her WITHOUT showing any ID! > > NY & NJ are just very difficult states to deal with. > > Judy Wolf > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 23:35:35 -0400 > From: "Joan Martin" <jbmart51@EARTHLINK.NET> > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] marriage license > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <00ac01c7727c$7ad1f600$0201a8c0@joan> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi, Maureen! Just the opporite happened to me. I was 6 months older than > my husband and the Clerk of the town told him she was real sorry, but he > would have to go home and get his mother to sign that he was old enough to > marry me. I was 21 and he was only 20. > Oh well, it lasted for 55 years anyway, I THINK he was happy that we made > it that far! He's only been gone 6 months yesterday. I miss him so much. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "quillpen1" <quillpen1@optonline.net> > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:25 PM > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] marriage license > > > > Hi Joy, > > > > I don't know about "early 1900s" but when I got married in the fifties I > was > > required to prove my age when obtaining the license because I looked so > > young. > > > > My husband- to- be did not have to show proof of age and when asked his > > parents names gave the wrong maiden for his mother. She had died when he > was > > 2 yrs old so it was an honest mistake. When I joined DAR, I had to sign > a > > form because of that error even though it wasn't MY family. > > > > My best girlfriend who was underage was NOT required to submit proof of > age > > because she didn't look underage. > > > > Maureen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Joy McMillan" <joygrl_203@yahoo.com> > > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 2:31 PM > > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] marriage license > > > > > >> Does anyone know if it was a requirement to show a birth certificate > when > >> you applied for a marriage license in the early 1900's? I am trying to > >> figure out if the parents names provided was guess work or came > directly > >> from their birth certificate. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Joy > >> > >> Joy McMillan <joygrl_203@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> It would be great to get this issue settled. My mother and I have had > >> nothing but returned checks and the run around from Yonkers. Thanks for > >> taking an interest. > >> > >> Joy > >> > >> Cliff Lamere wrote: > >> I phoned Yonkers twice yesterday to see what they said about the need > to > >> prove your identity by providing a driver's license. The information > >> that I was given was conflicting, so I spoke with the Registrar today. > >> She agreed with the need to provide a drivers license or photo ID in > >> order to get either a genealogy or certified certificate. I believe she > >> is wrong. I told her that I have bought hundreds of them from the state > >> and was never asked to provide any such proof. The Registrar told me > >> that another genealogist had raised the same question in the past and > >> that she had phoned Albany to confirmed that what Yonkers was doing was > >> correct, as well as required by the state. > >> > >> She said that she had a general information form from the state, on the > >> back of which it stated the requirements. She told me that even a paid > >> researcher who wanted to get a certificate for a client would need to > >> get a release from their client in order to get it. I will receive the > >> general form in the mail soon, so that I can read the requirements for > >> myself. Something is wrong, but I can't tell what by the information > >> that I received over the phone. More later. > >> > >> Cliff Lamere > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> *************************************** > >> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > >> *************************************** > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------- > >> Don't pick lemons. > >> See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! 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Anyone have any theories > > why? > > > > > >>From: Joy McMillan <joygrl_203@yahoo.com> > >>Reply-To: nywestch@rootsweb.com > >>To: nywestch@rootsweb.com > >>Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Vital Records & drivers license > >>Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 11:27:02 -0700 (PDT) > >> > >>It would be great to get this issue settled. My mother and I have had > >>nothing but returned checks and the run around from Yonkers. Thanks for > >>taking an interest. > >> > >> Joy > >> > >>Cliff Lamere <clifflamere@nycap.rr.com> wrote: > >> I phoned Yonkers twice yesterday to see what they said about the need > >> to > >>prove your identity by providing a driver's license. The information > >>that I was given was conflicting, so I spoke with the Registrar today. > >>She agreed with the need to provide a drivers license or photo ID in > >>order to get either a genealogy or certified certificate. I believe she > >>is wrong. I told her that I have bought hundreds of them from the state > >>and was never asked to provide any such proof. The Registrar told me > >>that another genealogist had raised the same question in the past and > >>that she had phoned Albany to confirmed that what Yonkers was doing was > >>correct, as well as required by the state. > >> > >>She said that she had a general information form from the state, on the > >>back of which it stated the requirements. She told me that even a paid > >>researcher who wanted to get a certificate for a client would need to > >>get a release from their client in order to get it. I will receive the > >>general form in the mail soon, so that I can read the requirements for > >>myself. Something is wrong, but I can't tell what by the information > >>that I received over the phone. More later. > >> > >>Cliff Lamere > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>*************************************** > >>Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > >>*************************************** > >>------------------------------- > >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> > >>--------------------------------- > >>Don't pick lemons. > >>See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. > >>*************************************** > >>Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > >>*************************************** > >>------------------------------- > >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get a FREE Web site, company branded e-mail and more from Microsoft Office > > Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ > > > > *************************************** > > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > > *************************************** > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 23:43:56 -0400 > From: quillpen1 <quillpen1@optonline.net> > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Vital Records & drivers license > To: nywestch@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <008001c7727d$a4cec040$0b7dc644@YOUR3EBBEA98F1> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; > reply-type=original > > I read somewhere a few years ago that New York State was the "black hole of > genealogy". New Jersey must be second in line.LOL. > > Maureen > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <WOLF6PACK@aol.com> > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 10:04 PM > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Vital Records & drivers license > > > > It was only maybe 6 or 7 years ago and we were on a vacation/genealogy > > research trip in West Virginia. We walked into the office in Charleston > > and got > > copies of my husband's LIVING aunts and uncles BIRTH certs without any > > ID and > > they were something ridiculous like $3.00 each! They did not have one of > > his > > aun'ts birth record so we looked on the microfilms at the Archives, my > > husband found it and we drove to the town where she was born and got a > > certified > > copy for her WITHOUT showing any ID! > > > > NY & NJ are just very difficult states to deal with. > > > > Judy Wolf > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > > http://www.aol.com. > > *************************************** > > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > > *************************************** > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 23:57:20 -0400 > From: quillpen1 <quillpen1@optonline.net> > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] marriage license > To: nywestch@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <00a701c7727f$847658b0$0b7dc644@YOUR3EBBEA98F1> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; > reply-type=original > > So sorry for your loss, Joan. ....but at least you have the comfort of > knowing that the two of you lived a good long happy life together.. > > In NYS at the time we only had to be 18 to get married without consent. I > was 19 but looked much younger. He was 21 and just out of the service. > > Maureen > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joan Martin" <jbmart51@earthlink.net> > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 11:35 PM > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] marriage license > > > > Hi, Maureen! Just the opporite happened to me. I was 6 months older than > > my husband and the Clerk of the town told him she was real sorry, but he > > would have to go home and get his mother to sign that he was old enough to > > marry me. I was 21 and he was only 20. > > Oh well, it lasted for 55 years anyway, I THINK he was happy that we made > > it that far! He's only been gone 6 months yesterday. I miss him so much. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "quillpen1" <quillpen1@optonline.net> > > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:25 PM > > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] marriage license > > > > > > > Hi Joy, > > > > > > I don't know about "early 1900s" but when I got married in the fifties > > I > > was > > > required to prove my age when obtaining the license because I looked so > > > young. > > > > > > My husband- to- be did not have to show proof of age and when asked his > > > parents names gave the wrong maiden for his mother. She had died when > > he > > was > > > 2 yrs old so it was an honest mistake. When I joined DAR, I had to sign > > a > > > form because of that error even though it wasn't MY family. > > > > > > My best girlfriend who was underage was NOT required to submit proof of > > age > > > because she didn't look underage. > > > > > > Maureen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Joy McMillan" <joygrl_203@yahoo.com> > > > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 2:31 PM > > > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] marriage license > > > > > > > > >> Does anyone know if it was a requirement to show a birth certificate > > when > > >> you applied for a marriage license in the early 1900's? I am trying to > > >> figure out if the parents names provided was guess work or came > > directly > > >> from their birth certificate. > > >> > > >> Thanks, > > >> Joy > > >> > > >> Joy McMillan <joygrl_203@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >> It would be great to get this issue settled. My mother and I have had > > >> nothing but returned checks and the run around from Yonkers. Thanks > > for > > >> taking an interest. > > >> > > >> Joy > > >> > > >> Cliff Lamere wrote: > > >> I phoned Yonkers twice yesterday to see what they said about the need > > to > > >> prove your identity by providing a driver's license. The information > > >> that I was given was conflicting, so I spoke with the Registrar today. > > >> She agreed with the need to provide a drivers license or photo ID in > > >> order to get either a genealogy or certified certificate. I believe > > she > > >> is wrong. I told her that I have bought hundreds of them from the > > state > > >> and was never asked to provide any such proof. The Registrar told me > > >> that another genealogist had raised the same question in the past and > > >> that she had phoned Albany to confirmed that what Yonkers was doing > > was > > >> correct, as well as required by the state. > > >> > > >> She said that she had a general information form from the state, on > > the > > >> back of which it stated the requirements. She told me that even a paid > > >> researcher who wanted to get a certificate for a client would need to > > >> get a release from their client in order to get it. I will receive the > > >> general form in the mail soon, so that I can read the requirements for > > >> myself. Something is wrong, but I can't tell what by the information > > >> that I received over the phone. More later. > > >> > > >> Cliff Lamere > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> *************************************** > > >> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > > >> *************************************** > > >> ------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> --------------------------------- > > >> Don't pick lemons. > > >> See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! 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