I would like to thank everyone on our forum who has helped me gather these family names below, plus these web sites, done by volunteers, giving me Marriage & Death certificate numbers. http://www.italiangen.org/databaselist.stm http://www.germangenealogygroup.com/otherdb.stm With all that help above, plus being able to order the certificates from... http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp For $2.00 each - got me here today with a lot of family members I never knew I had. Please check to see if we are cousins. John (b.1849-d.1910) MADUSKE Ottilie (b.1862-d. 1927) DREGGER Both born in Germany Children - August MADUSKE married Theresa SIEGEL Their children. Augusta (married MIRABELLA & had 2 children - Helen & Carmela) Helen b.1909 Philip b.1911 married Anne WALKER Charles b. 1913 (married, Cecelia MEYER) & John b.1918 Theresa Siegel Maduske - married again when August died to George W.S. WHALEN ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Other half of my family are.... John WHALEN, born in 1849 in MA married Ida S. SLOAT from NY Their children - John & Thomas were born in R.I. Their next 5 children were born in S.F., CA Louisa b. 1882 James b. 1885 (married Christina- kids Thomas & James) Charles b.1890 (married Olga MADUSKE - kids Charles, Mabel, Edward, Norma (married MUCCI & had 8 kids) & Leonard Arthur) George W.S. b.1891 (married Theresa (nee SIEGEL) MADUSKE - kids above) Mary b. 1894 (married Edward HICKEY - 1 child Edward Jr.) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thank you dear group for getting me to this place in looking up my family. Without your help I would still be looking. Junie :-)