The Spanish immersion program in which my grandchildren participate is not "shoved down anyone's throat." There is great competition to get into the prgram. All my grandchildren (4 of them) are accelerated, and a poor school system is made tolerable by the fact that at least they are learning fluent Spanish. The one who just finished first grade alternated weeks of instruction--one week all in English, the next all in Spanish. He entered the program at the last possible grade, as they moved in with me last summer. After 1st grade it is closed to new students, so the the 4th and 5th graders couldn't take it. However, I must repeat, participation is highly competitive and no one is in the program whose parents don't want them there. PS. My niece teaches Earth Science in Arlington Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. Historian, genealogist and attorney 155 Polifly Road Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 (201) 567-9440 office BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ ----- Original Message ---- From: quillpen1 <quillpen1@optonline.net> To: nywestch@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:36:09 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch My youngest grandchild will be 12 next week and as far as I know has had no "Spanish immersion" in Arlington School District here in Dutchess County. My older grandson had none either in Hyde Park or Arlington. My granddaughter on the other hand speaks fluent Spanish because she took Spanish as a major. I too would resent having Spanish or any other subject shoved down my kindergartener's throat .....but then again I would have been at the school raising Hell......as a taxpayer I have the right to open my mouth. So many of today's parents are such sheep...except for my son who does not allow my grandson to be pushed around by adults.....in school or out. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara de Mare" <barbarademare@yahoo.com> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch > My youngest grandchildren--Pre-K and 1st grade (going into G and 2nd) are > in a full Spanish immersion program. They have to take the third grade > state-wide tests in both English and Spanish and pass both to stay in. > Although there are some native speakers, there are more English speakera > in the program. Supposedly by 3rd grade you can't tell which is which. > It is certainly good for teaching our kids Spanish which, as much as I > resent it, is a necessity in today's business world. > > Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. > Historian, genealogist and attorney > 155 Polifly Road > Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 > (201) 567-9440 office > BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) > http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Jan Miller <jgrellim@sbcglobal.net> > To: nywestch@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 6:03:46 PM > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch > > Out here in Burlingame, last month school officials were delighted to > discover $100,000. "extra" in the school budget to be able to continue > "Immersion" classes in Spanish for KINDERGARTN AND 1ST GRADES! > Two pages later there was an article about needing a Bond issue for needed > items in the 2007-2008 year. > Figure THAT one out! > > "Both sides of mouth talking" > > There were a lot of Italian immigrants whose kids came to my school. They > learned rapidly, we gave them help and they could practice by translating > at > home to mama and papa. Worked really well and pretty fast, too!. > Jan > jgrellim@sbcglobal.net > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marilynn Masten" <GardnerRus@carolina.rr.com> > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 12:26 PM > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch > > >> When I started school, in 1926, (yes, they had schools then) many of my >> schoolmates could barely speak English in Kindergarten, but by first >> grade >> they spoke English as well as we did. How? By playing with us. Yes, >> why >> don't they do that these days. >> Cha d'dhuin doras nach dfhosgail doras >> When one door closes another door opens >> Marilynn >> IBSSG >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <GWGEHoyt@aol.com> >> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 1:49 PM >> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >> >> >>> >> >> >> -- >> I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. >> It has removed 3945 spam emails to date. >> Paying users do not have this message in their emails. >> Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len >> >> >> *************************************** >> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >> *************************************** >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ *************************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My niece teaches 5th grade in Arlington School District....at the Beekman Elementary School. I wonder why little kids are so interested in learning Spanish. When Iwas in high school practically everyone groaned and complained because they had to have 2 yrs of Latin if continuing on to college or going into Nursing. I personally loved Latin and majored in it in college. Our school systems up here are mostly very good by today's standards but all would fall short of what I learned when I was in school way back when. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara de Mare" <barbarademare@yahoo.com> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch > The Spanish immersion program in which my grandchildren participate is not > "shoved down anyone's throat." There is great competition to get into the > prgram. All my grandchildren (4 of them) are accelerated, and a poor > school system is made tolerable by the fact that at least they are > learning fluent Spanish. The one who just finished first grade alternated > weeks of instruction--one week all in English, the next all in Spanish. > He entered the program at the last possible grade, as they moved in with > me last summer. After 1st grade it is closed to new students, so the the > 4th and 5th graders couldn't take it. However, I must repeat, > participation is highly competitive and no one is in the program whose > parents don't want them there. > > PS. My niece teaches Earth Science in Arlington > > Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. > Historian, genealogist and attorney > 155 Polifly Road > Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 > (201) 567-9440 office > BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) > http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: quillpen1 <quillpen1@optonline.net> > To: nywestch@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:36:09 PM > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch > > My youngest grandchild will be 12 next week and as far as I know has had > no > "Spanish immersion" in Arlington School District here in Dutchess County. > My > older grandson had none either in Hyde Park or Arlington. My granddaughter > on the other hand speaks fluent Spanish because she took Spanish as a > major. > > I too would resent having Spanish or any other subject shoved down my > kindergartener's throat .....but then again I would have been at the > school > raising Hell......as a taxpayer I have the right to open my mouth. So many > of today's parents are such sheep...except for my son who does not allow > my > grandson to be pushed around by adults.....in school or out. > > Maureen > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara de Mare" <barbarademare@yahoo.com> > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 6:38 PM > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch > > >> My youngest grandchildren--Pre-K and 1st grade (going into G and 2nd) are >> in a full Spanish immersion program. They have to take the third grade >> state-wide tests in both English and Spanish and pass both to stay in. >> Although there are some native speakers, there are more English speakera >> in the program. Supposedly by 3rd grade you can't tell which is which. >> It is certainly good for teaching our kids Spanish which, as much as I >> resent it, is a necessity in today's business world. >> >> Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. >> Historian, genealogist and attorney >> 155 Polifly Road >> Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 >> (201) 567-9440 office >> BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) >> http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Jan Miller <jgrellim@sbcglobal.net> >> To: nywestch@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 6:03:46 PM >> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >> >> Out here in Burlingame, last month school officials were delighted to >> discover $100,000. "extra" in the school budget to be able to continue >> "Immersion" classes in Spanish for KINDERGARTN AND 1ST GRADES! >> Two pages later there was an article about needing a Bond issue for >> needed >> items in the 2007-2008 year. >> Figure THAT one out! >> >> "Both sides of mouth talking" >> >> There were a lot of Italian immigrants whose kids came to my school. They >> learned rapidly, we gave them help and they could practice by translating >> at >> home to mama and papa. Worked really well and pretty fast, too!. >> Jan >> jgrellim@sbcglobal.net >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Marilynn Masten" <GardnerRus@carolina.rr.com> >> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 12:26 PM >> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >> >> >>> When I started school, in 1926, (yes, they had schools then) many of my >>> schoolmates could barely speak English in Kindergarten, but by first >>> grade >>> they spoke English as well as we did. How? By playing with us. Yes, >>> why >>> don't they do that these days. >>> Cha d'dhuin doras nach dfhosgail doras >>> When one door closes another door opens >>> Marilynn >>> IBSSG >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: <GWGEHoyt@aol.com> >>> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 1:49 PM >>> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >>> >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. >>> It has removed 3945 spam emails to date. >>> Paying users do not have this message in their emails. >>> Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len >>> >>> >>> *************************************** >>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>> *************************************** >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> *************************************** >> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >> *************************************** >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> *************************************** >> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >> *************************************** >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

They'll be ready when Spanish is the "official" language ot ther USA! Were lost. By the way "rowdyrebel was aB-17 Flying Fortress in WW2. My uncle flew 2 missions in that plane before he shot down on 13 April 1944. Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara de Mare" <barbarademare@yahoo.com> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch > The Spanish immersion program in which my grandchildren participate is not "shoved down anyone's throat." There is great competition to get into the prgram. All my grandchildren (4 of them) are accelerated, and a poor school system is made tolerable by the fact that at least they are learning fluent Spanish. The one who just finished first grade alternated weeks of instruction--one week all in English, the next all in Spanish. He entered the program at the last possible grade, as they moved in with me last summer. After 1st grade it is closed to new students, so the the 4th and 5th graders couldn't take it. However, I must repeat, participation is highly competitive and no one is in the program whose parents don't want them there. > > PS. My niece teaches Earth Science in Arlington > > Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. > Historian, genealogist and attorney > 155 Polifly Road > Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 > (201) 567-9440 office > BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) > http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: quillpen1 <quillpen1@optonline.net> > To: nywestch@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:36:09 PM > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch > > My youngest grandchild will be 12 next week and as far as I know has had no > "Spanish immersion" in Arlington School District here in Dutchess County. My > older grandson had none either in Hyde Park or Arlington. My granddaughter > on the other hand speaks fluent Spanish because she took Spanish as a > major. > > I too would resent having Spanish or any other subject shoved down my > kindergartener's throat .....but then again I would have been at the school > raising Hell......as a taxpayer I have the right to open my mouth. So many > of today's parents are such sheep...except for my son who does not allow my > grandson to be pushed around by adults.....in school or out. > > Maureen > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara de Mare" <barbarademare@yahoo.com> > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 6:38 PM > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch > > > > My youngest grandchildren--Pre-K and 1st grade (going into G and 2nd) are > > in a full Spanish immersion program. They have to take the third grade > > state-wide tests in both English and Spanish and pass both to stay in. > > Although there are some native speakers, there are more English speakera > > in the program. Supposedly by 3rd grade you can't tell which is which. > > It is certainly good for teaching our kids Spanish which, as much as I > > resent it, is a necessity in today's business world. > > > > Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. > > Historian, genealogist and attorney > > 155 Polifly Road > > Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 > > (201) 567-9440 office > > BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) > > http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Jan Miller <jgrellim@sbcglobal.net> > > To: nywestch@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 6:03:46 PM > > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch > > > > Out here in Burlingame, last month school officials were delighted to > > discover $100,000. "extra" in the school budget to be able to continue > > "Immersion" classes in Spanish for KINDERGARTN AND 1ST GRADES! > > Two pages later there was an article about needing a Bond issue for needed > > items in the 2007-2008 year. > > Figure THAT one out! > > > > "Both sides of mouth talking" > > > > There were a lot of Italian immigrants whose kids came to my school. They > > learned rapidly, we gave them help and they could practice by translating > > at > > home to mama and papa. Worked really well and pretty fast, too!. > > Jan > > jgrellim@sbcglobal.net > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Marilynn Masten" <GardnerRus@carolina.rr.com> > > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 12:26 PM > > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch > > > > > >> When I started school, in 1926, (yes, they had schools then) many of my > >> schoolmates could barely speak English in Kindergarten, but by first > >> grade > >> they spoke English as well as we did. How? By playing with us. Yes, > >> why > >> don't they do that these days. > >> Cha d'dhuin doras nach dfhosgail doras > >> When one door closes another door opens > >> Marilynn > >> IBSSG > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: <GWGEHoyt@aol.com> > >> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 1:49 PM > >> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch > >> > >> > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > >> It has removed 3945 spam emails to date. > >> Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > >> Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > >> > >> > >> *************************************** > >> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > >> *************************************** > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > *************************************** > > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > > *************************************** > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > *************************************** > > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > > *************************************** > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >