A definate possibility. I was uncertain if it would be recorded but then thought 'If it was not filrd or recorded how would it be enforced ? If one party's copy was lost or destroyed ? Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "quillpen1" <quillpen1@optonline.net> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Indenture > Perhaps they were married in the bride's home county but planned to live > in > the groom's home county. > > Were indentured servant agreements recorded?? Perhaps private Indenture > agreements were not recorded in those days. Land records are public and > naturally would be publicly recorded. > > Maureen > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "WS-GENEAL" <WS-GENEAL@comcast.net> > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 7:03 AM > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Indenture > > >> Hi Pat, >> >> Will was written by John Staples, Amy's husband in 1803. >> I was just trying to get a feel for what the Indenture might relate to. I >> know Indenture is used in land sales but this seemed like it might be >> something else, as no land was mentioned. Nothing shows up (so far) in >> the >> Westchester Archives. It would seem strange that they were married on the >> same day but recorded the Indenture in another County. >> >> The Kniffin is another question. He certainly could be a relative >> >> Bill >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Pat Wardell" <the.wardells@gte.net> >> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 1:13 PM >> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Indenture >> >> >>> Bill -- you didn't give the name of the person who wrote the will and >>> you didn't give the date of writing the will and of its probate. This >>> information might help others to help you identify these folks. >>> >>> I believe an indenture is a deed, so it would most probably be filed >>> with county land records, probably at the county courthouse. >>> >>> Here's another will that might possibly help -- >>> >>> In his will, dated 15 Feb 1792, probated 13 May 1805, John >>> Kniffin, Senior, of Rye, devised to wife ----- the use of one third >>> of lands [etc,] to revert to sons Elisha, John, Isaac, William, >>> Hackaliah, and Nathan; mentioned son Caleb; all lands to be divided >>> among the first mentioned six sons when Nathan, youngest son, arrived >>> at age of 21; "When my daughters get married, I order the family if >>> they are able to assist them to some things." Executors, son Elisha >>> and friend Gilbert Brown of Rye. Wit., John Theale, Disbury Park, >>> Thomas Mc Collum. (source: Bristol, Theresa Hall, "Abstracts of Wills >>> Recorded at White Plains, Westchester County, New York, Subsequent to >>> May 1, 1787, in New York Genealogical & Biographical Record, Oct 1926 >>> (Vol. 57, No. 4), p. 320 (Will of John Kniffin, Senior) >>> >>> Pat >>> >>>>Need help. >>>>I have a will that contains the following statement: 'I give, devise >>>>and bequeath unto my beloved wife Amy one thousand dollars to be >>>>paid to her by my Executors within one year after my decease, with >>>>lawful interest from the time of my decease until paid in full >>>>satisfaction & compliance with a certain Indenture Tripartite >>>>bearing date the twenty second day of October one thousane seven >>>>hundred ninety eight between the said wife Amy (then Amy Purdy)of >>>>one part, myself of another part and Timothy Pardy and Isaac Kniffen >>>>of the third part which legacy together with those herein bequeathed >>>>and given to my said wife are the full Barr and lieu of all Dower >>>>which she could or might claim to my estate'. >>>>John and Amy were married in New Rochelle on the same date that the >>>>Indenture was executed. Timothy Purdy was Amy's father. Isaac >>>>Kniffin is a mystery. The Will goes on to leave control but not >>>>title to a son John,Jr. I am trying to determine what this Indenture >>>>contained . Does anyone know where a document like this would be >>>>filed, assuming that such a document would be filed somewhere ? >>>> >>>>BILL STAPLES >>>> >>>>Researching STAPLES, HOLMES, ELMS, DEHART, SHERWOOD, NICHOLS, COSMAN. >>>>Website: www.wstaples.net >>>>*************************************** >>>>Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>>>http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>>>*************************************** >>>>------------------------------- >>>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Pat & Walter Wardell >>> Englewood, FL >>> the.wardells@gte.net >>> *************************************** >>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>> *************************************** >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> *************************************** >> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >> *************************************** >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Those were the days when "a man's word was his bond" so maybe that helped. On the other hand there were scoundrels back then too. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "WS-GENEAL" <WS-GENEAL@comcast.net> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Indenture >A definate possibility. > > I was uncertain if it would be recorded but then thought 'If it was not > filrd or recorded how would it be enforced ? If one party's copy was lost > or > destroyed ? > > Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "quillpen1" <quillpen1@optonline.net> > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 12:04 PM > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Indenture > > >> Perhaps they were married in the bride's home county but planned to live >> in >> the groom's home county. >> >> Were indentured servant agreements recorded?? Perhaps private Indenture >> agreements were not recorded in those days. Land records are public and >> naturally would be publicly recorded. >> >> Maureen >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "WS-GENEAL" <WS-GENEAL@comcast.net> >> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 7:03 AM >> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Indenture >> >> >>> Hi Pat, >>> >>> Will was written by John Staples, Amy's husband in 1803. >>> I was just trying to get a feel for what the Indenture might relate to. >>> I >>> know Indenture is used in land sales but this seemed like it might be >>> something else, as no land was mentioned. Nothing shows up (so far) in >>> the >>> Westchester Archives. It would seem strange that they were married on >>> the >>> same day but recorded the Indenture in another County. >>> >>> The Kniffin is another question. He certainly could be a relative >>> >>> Bill >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Pat Wardell" <the.wardells@gte.net> >>> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 1:13 PM >>> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Indenture >>> >>> >>>> Bill -- you didn't give the name of the person who wrote the will and >>>> you didn't give the date of writing the will and of its probate. This >>>> information might help others to help you identify these folks. >>>> >>>> I believe an indenture is a deed, so it would most probably be filed >>>> with county land records, probably at the county courthouse. >>>> >>>> Here's another will that might possibly help -- >>>> >>>> In his will, dated 15 Feb 1792, probated 13 May 1805, John >>>> Kniffin, Senior, of Rye, devised to wife ----- the use of one third >>>> of lands [etc,] to revert to sons Elisha, John, Isaac, William, >>>> Hackaliah, and Nathan; mentioned son Caleb; all lands to be divided >>>> among the first mentioned six sons when Nathan, youngest son, arrived >>>> at age of 21; "When my daughters get married, I order the family if >>>> they are able to assist them to some things." Executors, son Elisha >>>> and friend Gilbert Brown of Rye. Wit., John Theale, Disbury Park, >>>> Thomas Mc Collum. (source: Bristol, Theresa Hall, "Abstracts of Wills >>>> Recorded at White Plains, Westchester County, New York, Subsequent to >>>> May 1, 1787, in New York Genealogical & Biographical Record, Oct 1926 >>>> (Vol. 57, No. 4), p. 320 (Will of John Kniffin, Senior) >>>> >>>> Pat >>>> >>>>>Need help. >>>>>I have a will that contains the following statement: 'I give, devise >>>>>and bequeath unto my beloved wife Amy one thousand dollars to be >>>>>paid to her by my Executors within one year after my decease, with >>>>>lawful interest from the time of my decease until paid in full >>>>>satisfaction & compliance with a certain Indenture Tripartite >>>>>bearing date the twenty second day of October one thousane seven >>>>>hundred ninety eight between the said wife Amy (then Amy Purdy)of >>>>>one part, myself of another part and Timothy Pardy and Isaac Kniffen >>>>>of the third part which legacy together with those herein bequeathed >>>>>and given to my said wife are the full Barr and lieu of all Dower >>>>>which she could or might claim to my estate'. >>>>>John and Amy were married in New Rochelle on the same date that the >>>>>Indenture was executed. Timothy Purdy was Amy's father. Isaac >>>>>Kniffin is a mystery. The Will goes on to leave control but not >>>>>title to a son John,Jr. I am trying to determine what this Indenture >>>>>contained . Does anyone know where a document like this would be >>>>>filed, assuming that such a document would be filed somewhere ? >>>>> >>>>>BILL STAPLES >>>>> >>>>>Researching STAPLES, HOLMES, ELMS, DEHART, SHERWOOD, NICHOLS, COSMAN. >>>>>Website: www.wstaples.net >>>>>*************************************** >>>>>Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>>>>http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>>>>*************************************** >>>>>------------------------------- >>>>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>>the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Pat & Walter Wardell >>>> Englewood, FL >>>> the.wardells@gte.net >>>> *************************************** >>>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>>> *************************************** >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> *************************************** >>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>> *************************************** >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> *************************************** >> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >> *************************************** >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message