How about learning to speak, read and write English as superbly as our founding father's did, or even as weel as the men and women of the 1800's. My husband had a woman at work, who was a Phi Beta Capa grad, write a resignation letter to him and there were something like 20 gramattical errors in it; at this time, in any class, you only have to write so that someone can make sense of it; and you don't have to know how to spell correctly. When I went to school we could not even use a pen until we wrote well with a pencil and every teacher expected corrected gramatical errors.. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Maul" <rowdyrebel@optonline.net> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 7:24 AM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch > Why not a German immersion program? > Ed > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "quillpen1" <quillpen1@optonline.net> > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 12:55 AM > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch > > >> Korean???? >> >> We don't have more than a handful of Koeans up here....mostly doctors. >> >> Maureen >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Barbara de Mare" <barbarademare@yahoo.com> >> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 10:09 PM >> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >> >> >> > Spanish is actually taking a back seat to Korean around here. >> > >> > Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. >> > Historian, genealogist and attorney >> > 155 Polifly Road >> > Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 >> > (201) 567-9440 office >> > BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) >> > http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ >> > >> > ----- Original Message ---- >> > From: quillpen1 <quillpen1@optonline.net> >> > To: nywestch@rootsweb.com >> > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:53:07 PM >> > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >> > >> > Funny you should mention it today, Bill. >> > >> > I got an email this AM from a friend down near Dallas who said the same >> > thing......that his whole town is turning into a giant barrio. >> > >> > Maureen >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Bill Forshay" <billforshay@yahoo.com> >> > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:46 PM >> > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >> > >> > >> >> Maureen: >> >> >> >> You should be down here in Texas, they are taking over > everything. >> >> >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> quillpen1 <quillpen1@optonline.net> wrote: My youngest grandchild will > be >> >> 12 next week and as far as I know has had no >> >> "Spanish immersion" in Arlington School District here in Dutchess > County. >> >> My >> >> older grandson had none either in Hyde Park or Arlington. My >> >> granddaughter >> >> on the other hand speaks fluent Spanish because she took Spanish as a >> >> major. >> >> >> >> I too would resent having Spanish or any other subject shoved down my >> >> kindergartener's throat .....but then again I would have been at the >> >> school >> >> raising Hell......as a taxpayer I have the right to open my mouth. So >> >> many >> >> of today's parents are such sheep...except for my son who does not > allow >> >> my >> >> grandson to be pushed around by adults.....in school or out. >> >> >> >> Maureen >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Barbara de Mare" >> >> To: >> >> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 6:38 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >> >> >> >> >> >>> My youngest grandchildren--Pre-K and 1st grade (going into G and 2nd) >> >>> are >> >>> in a full Spanish immersion program. They have to take the third > grade >> >>> state-wide tests in both English and Spanish and pass both to stay >> >>> in. >> >>> Although there are some native speakers, there are more English > speakera >> >>> in the program. Supposedly by 3rd grade you can't tell which is > which. >> >>> It is certainly good for teaching our kids Spanish which, as much as >> >>> I >> >>> resent it, is a necessity in today's business world. >> >>> >> >>> Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. >> >>> Historian, genealogist and attorney >> >>> 155 Polifly Road >> >>> Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 >> >>> (201) 567-9440 office >> >>> BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) >> >>> http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ >> >>> >> >>> ----- Original Message ---- >> >>> From: Jan Miller >> >>> To: nywestch@rootsweb.com >> >>> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 6:03:46 PM >> >>> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >> >>> >> >>> Out here in Burlingame, last month school officials were delighted to >> >>> discover $100,000. "extra" in the school budget to be able to > continue >> >>> "Immersion" classes in Spanish for KINDERGARTN AND 1ST GRADES! >> >>> Two pages later there was an article about needing a Bond issue for >> >>> needed >> >>> items in the 2007-2008 year. >> >>> Figure THAT one out! >> >>> >> >>> "Both sides of mouth talking" >> >>> >> >>> There were a lot of Italian immigrants whose kids came to my school. >> >>> They >> >>> learned rapidly, we gave them help and they could practice by >> >>> translating >> >>> at >> >>> home to mama and papa. Worked really well and pretty fast, too!. >> >>> Jan >> >>> jgrellim@sbcglobal.net >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> From: "Marilynn Masten" >> >>> To: >> >>> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 12:26 PM >> >>> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> When I started school, in 1926, (yes, they had schools then) many of > my >> >>>> schoolmates could barely speak English in Kindergarten, but by first >> >>>> grade >> >>>> they spoke English as well as we did. How? By playing with us. > Yes, >> >>>> why >> >>>> don't they do that these days. >> >>>> Cha d'dhuin doras nach dfhosgail doras >> >>>> When one door closes another door opens >> >>>> Marilynn >> >>>> IBSSG >> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>>> From: >> >>>> To: >> >>>> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 1:49 PM >> >>>> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. >> >>>> It has removed 3945 spam emails to date. >> >>>> Paying users do not have this message in their emails. >> >>>> Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> *************************************** >> >>>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >> >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >> >>>> *************************************** >> >>>> ------------------------------- >> >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >>>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> >>>> the >> >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >>> >> >>> *************************************** >> >>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >> >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >> >>> *************************************** >> >>> ------------------------------- >> >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> *************************************** >> >>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >> >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >> >>> *************************************** >> >>> ------------------------------- >> >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> *************************************** >> >> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >> >> *************************************** >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Searching: FORSHAY (Forshee, Foshay) (NY,NJ,OH,WI,MI,France,Canada)- >> >> WILD, >> >> DREXLER,FLEISCHMAN(N) (WI,Austria) - BIERSCHENK, NELSON (Nilsson) >> >> (MN,NY,Sweden,Varberg). >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> >> Fussy? 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Agreed. You know how you lose your freedoms? One bite at a time...... Jan jgrellim@sbcglobal.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Maxwell" <suemaxwell@comcast.net> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 7:37 AM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch > How about learning to speak, read and write English as superbly as our > founding father's did, or even as weel as the men and women of the 1800's. > My husband had a woman at work, who was a Phi Beta Capa grad, write a > resignation letter to him and there were something like 20 gramattical > errors in it; at this time, in any class, you only have to write so that > someone can make sense of it; and you don't have to know how to spell > correctly. When I went to school we could not even use a pen until we > wrote > well with a pencil and every teacher expected corrected gramatical > errors.. > Sue > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ed Maul" <rowdyrebel@optonline.net> > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 7:24 AM > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch > > >> Why not a German immersion program? >> Ed >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "quillpen1" <quillpen1@optonline.net> >> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 12:55 AM >> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >> >> >>> Korean???? >>> >>> We don't have more than a handful of Koeans up here....mostly doctors. >>> >>> Maureen >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Barbara de Mare" <barbarademare@yahoo.com> >>> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 10:09 PM >>> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >>> >>> >>> > Spanish is actually taking a back seat to Korean around here. >>> > >>> > Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. >>> > Historian, genealogist and attorney >>> > 155 Polifly Road >>> > Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 >>> > (201) 567-9440 office >>> > BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) >>> > http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ >>> > >>> > ----- Original Message ---- >>> > From: quillpen1 <quillpen1@optonline.net> >>> > To: nywestch@rootsweb.com >>> > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:53:07 PM >>> > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >>> > >>> > Funny you should mention it today, Bill. >>> > >>> > I got an email this AM from a friend down near Dallas who said the >>> > same >>> > thing......that his whole town is turning into a giant barrio. >>> > >>> > Maureen >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: "Bill Forshay" <billforshay@yahoo.com> >>> > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >>> > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:46 PM >>> > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >>> > >>> > >>> >> Maureen: >>> >> >>> >> You should be down here in Texas, they are taking over >> everything. >>> >> >>> >> Bill >>> >> >>> >> quillpen1 <quillpen1@optonline.net> wrote: My youngest grandchild >>> >> will >> be >>> >> 12 next week and as far as I know has had no >>> >> "Spanish immersion" in Arlington School District here in Dutchess >> County. >>> >> My >>> >> older grandson had none either in Hyde Park or Arlington. My >>> >> granddaughter >>> >> on the other hand speaks fluent Spanish because she took Spanish as >>> >> a >>> >> major. >>> >> >>> >> I too would resent having Spanish or any other subject shoved down my >>> >> kindergartener's throat .....but then again I would have been at the >>> >> school >>> >> raising Hell......as a taxpayer I have the right to open my mouth. So >>> >> many >>> >> of today's parents are such sheep...except for my son who does not >> allow >>> >> my >>> >> grandson to be pushed around by adults.....in school or out. >>> >> >>> >> Maureen >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >> From: "Barbara de Mare" >>> >> To: >>> >> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 6:38 PM >>> >> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>> My youngest grandchildren--Pre-K and 1st grade (going into G and >>> >>> 2nd) >>> >>> are >>> >>> in a full Spanish immersion program. They have to take the third >> grade >>> >>> state-wide tests in both English and Spanish and pass both to stay >>> >>> in. >>> >>> Although there are some native speakers, there are more English >> speakera >>> >>> in the program. Supposedly by 3rd grade you can't tell which is >> which. >>> >>> It is certainly good for teaching our kids Spanish which, as much as >>> >>> I >>> >>> resent it, is a necessity in today's business world. >>> >>> >>> >>> Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. >>> >>> Historian, genealogist and attorney >>> >>> 155 Polifly Road >>> >>> Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 >>> >>> (201) 567-9440 office >>> >>> BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) >>> >>> http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ---- >>> >>> From: Jan Miller >>> >>> To: nywestch@rootsweb.com >>> >>> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 6:03:46 PM >>> >>> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >>> >>> >>> >>> Out here in Burlingame, last month school officials were delighted >>> >>> to >>> >>> discover $100,000. "extra" in the school budget to be able to >> continue >>> >>> "Immersion" classes in Spanish for KINDERGARTN AND 1ST GRADES! >>> >>> Two pages later there was an article about needing a Bond issue for >>> >>> needed >>> >>> items in the 2007-2008 year. >>> >>> Figure THAT one out! >>> >>> >>> >>> "Both sides of mouth talking" >>> >>> >>> >>> There were a lot of Italian immigrants whose kids came to my school. >>> >>> They >>> >>> learned rapidly, we gave them help and they could practice by >>> >>> translating >>> >>> at >>> >>> home to mama and papa. Worked really well and pretty fast, too!. >>> >>> Jan >>> >>> jgrellim@sbcglobal.net >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>> From: "Marilynn Masten" >>> >>> To: >>> >>> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 12:26 PM >>> >>> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> When I started school, in 1926, (yes, they had schools then) many >>> >>>> of >> my >>> >>>> schoolmates could barely speak English in Kindergarten, but by >>> >>>> first >>> >>>> grade >>> >>>> they spoke English as well as we did. How? By playing with us. >> Yes, >>> >>>> why >>> >>>> don't they do that these days. >>> >>>> Cha d'dhuin doras nach dfhosgail doras >>> >>>> When one door closes another door opens >>> >>>> Marilynn >>> >>>> IBSSG >>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>>> From: >>> >>>> To: >>> >>>> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 1:49 PM >>> >>>> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> -- >>> >>>> I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. >>> >>>> It has removed 3945 spam emails to date. >>> >>>> Paying users do not have this message in their emails. >>> >>>> Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> *************************************** >>> >>>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>> >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>> >>>> *************************************** >>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>> >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> >>>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> >>>> the >>> >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> *************************************** >>> >>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>> >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>> >>> *************************************** >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> >>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> >>> the >>> >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *************************************** >>> >>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>> >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>> >>> *************************************** >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> >>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> >>> the >>> >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >>> >> *************************************** >>> >> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>> >> *************************************** >>> >> ------------------------------- >>> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> >> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Searching: FORSHAY (Forshee, Foshay) (NY,NJ,OH,WI,MI,France,Canada)- >>> >> WILD, >>> >> DREXLER,FLEISCHMAN(N) (WI,Austria) - BIERSCHENK, NELSON (Nilsson) >>> >> (MN,NY,Sweden,Varberg). >>> >> >>> >> --------------------------------- >>> >> Fussy? 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Sue, you read my mind. Cha d'dhuin doras nach dfhosgail doras When one door closes another door opens Marilynn IBSSG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Maxwell" <suemaxwell@comcast.net> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch > How about learning to speak, read and write English as superbly as our > founding father's did, or even as weel as the men and women of the 1800's. > My husband had a woman at work, who was a Phi Beta Capa grad, write a > resignation letter to him and there were something like 20 gramattical > errors in it; at this time, in any class, you only have to write so that > someone can make sense of it; and you don't have to know how to spell > correctly. When I went to school we could not even use a pen until we > wrote > well with a pencil and every teacher expected corrected gramatical > errors.. > Sue > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ed Maul" <rowdyrebel@optonline.net> > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 7:24 AM > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch > > >> Why not a German immersion program? >> Ed >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "quillpen1" <quillpen1@optonline.net> >> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 12:55 AM >> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >> >> >>> Korean???? >>> >>> We don't have more than a handful of Koeans up here....mostly doctors. >>> >>> Maureen >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Barbara de Mare" <barbarademare@yahoo.com> >>> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 10:09 PM >>> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >>> >>> >>> > Spanish is actually taking a back seat to Korean around here. >>> > >>> > Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. >>> > Historian, genealogist and attorney >>> > 155 Polifly Road >>> > Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 >>> > (201) 567-9440 office >>> > BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) >>> > http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ >>> > >>> > ----- Original Message ---- >>> > From: quillpen1 <quillpen1@optonline.net> >>> > To: nywestch@rootsweb.com >>> > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:53:07 PM >>> > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >>> > >>> > Funny you should mention it today, Bill. >>> > >>> > I got an email this AM from a friend down near Dallas who said the >>> > same >>> > thing......that his whole town is turning into a giant barrio. >>> > >>> > Maureen >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: "Bill Forshay" <billforshay@yahoo.com> >>> > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >>> > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:46 PM >>> > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >>> > >>> > >>> >> Maureen: >>> >> >>> >> You should be down here in Texas, they are taking over >> everything. >>> >> >>> >> Bill >>> >> >>> >> quillpen1 <quillpen1@optonline.net> wrote: My youngest grandchild >>> >> will >> be >>> >> 12 next week and as far as I know has had no >>> >> "Spanish immersion" in Arlington School District here in Dutchess >> County. >>> >> My >>> >> older grandson had none either in Hyde Park or Arlington. My >>> >> granddaughter >>> >> on the other hand speaks fluent Spanish because she took Spanish as >>> >> a >>> >> major. >>> >> >>> >> I too would resent having Spanish or any other subject shoved down my >>> >> kindergartener's throat .....but then again I would have been at the >>> >> school >>> >> raising Hell......as a taxpayer I have the right to open my mouth. So >>> >> many >>> >> of today's parents are such sheep...except for my son who does not >> allow >>> >> my >>> >> grandson to be pushed around by adults.....in school or out. >>> >> >>> >> Maureen >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >> From: "Barbara de Mare" >>> >> To: >>> >> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 6:38 PM >>> >> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>> My youngest grandchildren--Pre-K and 1st grade (going into G and >>> >>> 2nd) >>> >>> are >>> >>> in a full Spanish immersion program. They have to take the third >> grade >>> >>> state-wide tests in both English and Spanish and pass both to stay >>> >>> in. >>> >>> Although there are some native speakers, there are more English >> speakera >>> >>> in the program. Supposedly by 3rd grade you can't tell which is >> which. >>> >>> It is certainly good for teaching our kids Spanish which, as much as >>> >>> I >>> >>> resent it, is a necessity in today's business world. >>> >>> >>> >>> Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. >>> >>> Historian, genealogist and attorney >>> >>> 155 Polifly Road >>> >>> Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 >>> >>> (201) 567-9440 office >>> >>> BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) >>> >>> http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ---- >>> >>> From: Jan Miller >>> >>> To: nywestch@rootsweb.com >>> >>> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 6:03:46 PM >>> >>> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >>> >>> >>> >>> Out here in Burlingame, last month school officials were delighted >>> >>> to >>> >>> discover $100,000. "extra" in the school budget to be able to >> continue >>> >>> "Immersion" classes in Spanish for KINDERGARTN AND 1ST GRADES! >>> >>> Two pages later there was an article about needing a Bond issue for >>> >>> needed >>> >>> items in the 2007-2008 year. >>> >>> Figure THAT one out! >>> >>> >>> >>> "Both sides of mouth talking" >>> >>> >>> >>> There were a lot of Italian immigrants whose kids came to my school. >>> >>> They >>> >>> learned rapidly, we gave them help and they could practice by >>> >>> translating >>> >>> at >>> >>> home to mama and papa. Worked really well and pretty fast, too!. >>> >>> Jan >>> >>> jgrellim@sbcglobal.net >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>> From: "Marilynn Masten" >>> >>> To: >>> >>> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 12:26 PM >>> >>> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> When I started school, in 1926, (yes, they had schools then) many >>> >>>> of >> my >>> >>>> schoolmates could barely speak English in Kindergarten, but by >>> >>>> first >>> >>>> grade >>> >>>> they spoke English as well as we did. How? By playing with us. >> Yes, >>> >>>> why >>> >>>> don't they do that these days. >>> >>>> Cha d'dhuin doras nach dfhosgail doras >>> >>>> When one door closes another door opens >>> >>>> Marilynn >>> >>>> IBSSG >>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>>> From: >>> >>>> To: >>> >>>> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 1:49 PM >>> >>>> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> -- >>> >>>> I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. >>> >>>> It has removed 3945 spam emails to date. >>> >>>> Paying users do not have this message in their emails. >>> >>>> Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> *************************************** >>> >>>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>> >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>> >>>> *************************************** >>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>> >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> >>>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> >>>> the >>> >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> *************************************** >>> >>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>> >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>> >>> *************************************** >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> >>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> >>> the >>> >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *************************************** >>> >>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>> >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>> >>> *************************************** >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> >>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> >>> the >>> >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >>> >> *************************************** >>> >> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>> >> *************************************** >>> >> ------------------------------- >>> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> >> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Searching: FORSHAY (Forshee, Foshay) (NY,NJ,OH,WI,MI,France,Canada)- >>> >> WILD, >>> >> DREXLER,FLEISCHMAN(N) (WI,Austria) - BIERSCHENK, NELSON (Nilsson) >>> >> (MN,NY,Sweden,Varberg). >>> >> >>> >> --------------------------------- >>> >> Fussy? 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Marilyn- I didn't write such a clear email, myself. I reread it and laughed. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilynn Masten" <GardnerRus@carolina.rr.com> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch > Sue, you read my mind. > Cha d'dhuin doras nach dfhosgail doras > When one door closes another door opens > Marilynn > IBSSG > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sue Maxwell" <suemaxwell@comcast.net> > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 10:37 AM > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch > > >> How about learning to speak, read and write English as superbly as our >> founding father's did, or even as weel as the men and women of the >> 1800's. >> My husband had a woman at work, who was a Phi Beta Capa grad, write a >> resignation letter to him and there were something like 20 gramattical >> errors in it; at this time, in any class, you only have to write so that >> someone can make sense of it; and you don't have to know how to spell >> correctly. When I went to school we could not even use a pen until we >> wrote >> well with a pencil and every teacher expected corrected gramatical >> errors.. >> Sue >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ed Maul" <rowdyrebel@optonline.net> >> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 7:24 AM >> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >> >> >>> Why not a German immersion program? >>> Ed >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "quillpen1" <quillpen1@optonline.net> >>> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 12:55 AM >>> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >>> >>> >>>> Korean???? >>>> >>>> We don't have more than a handful of Koeans up here....mostly doctors. >>>> >>>> Maureen >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Barbara de Mare" <barbarademare@yahoo.com> >>>> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 10:09 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >>>> >>>> >>>> > Spanish is actually taking a back seat to Korean around here. >>>> > >>>> > Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. >>>> > Historian, genealogist and attorney >>>> > 155 Polifly Road >>>> > Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 >>>> > (201) 567-9440 office >>>> > BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) >>>> > http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ >>>> > >>>> > ----- Original Message ---- >>>> > From: quillpen1 <quillpen1@optonline.net> >>>> > To: nywestch@rootsweb.com >>>> > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:53:07 PM >>>> > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >>>> > >>>> > Funny you should mention it today, Bill. >>>> > >>>> > I got an email this AM from a friend down near Dallas who said the >>>> > same >>>> > thing......that his whole town is turning into a giant barrio. >>>> > >>>> > Maureen >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>>> > From: "Bill Forshay" <billforshay@yahoo.com> >>>> > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >>>> > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:46 PM >>>> > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >> Maureen: >>>> >> >>>> >> You should be down here in Texas, they are taking over >>> everything. >>>> >> >>>> >> Bill >>>> >> >>>> >> quillpen1 <quillpen1@optonline.net> wrote: My youngest grandchild >>>> >> will >>> be >>>> >> 12 next week and as far as I know has had no >>>> >> "Spanish immersion" in Arlington School District here in Dutchess >>> County. >>>> >> My >>>> >> older grandson had none either in Hyde Park or Arlington. My >>>> >> granddaughter >>>> >> on the other hand speaks fluent Spanish because she took Spanish as >>>> >> a >>>> >> major. >>>> >> >>>> >> I too would resent having Spanish or any other subject shoved down >>>> >> my >>>> >> kindergartener's throat .....but then again I would have been at the >>>> >> school >>>> >> raising Hell......as a taxpayer I have the right to open my mouth. >>>> >> So >>>> >> many >>>> >> of today's parents are such sheep...except for my son who does not >>> allow >>>> >> my >>>> >> grandson to be pushed around by adults.....in school or out. >>>> >> >>>> >> Maureen >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> >> From: "Barbara de Mare" >>>> >> To: >>>> >> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 6:38 PM >>>> >> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> My youngest grandchildren--Pre-K and 1st grade (going into G and >>>> >>> 2nd) >>>> >>> are >>>> >>> in a full Spanish immersion program. They have to take the third >>> grade >>>> >>> state-wide tests in both English and Spanish and pass both to stay >>>> >>> in. >>>> >>> Although there are some native speakers, there are more English >>> speakera >>>> >>> in the program. Supposedly by 3rd grade you can't tell which is >>> which. >>>> >>> It is certainly good for teaching our kids Spanish which, as much >>>> >>> as >>>> >>> I >>>> >>> resent it, is a necessity in today's business world. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. >>>> >>> Historian, genealogist and attorney >>>> >>> 155 Polifly Road >>>> >>> Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 >>>> >>> (201) 567-9440 office >>>> >>> BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) >>>> >>> http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ >>>> >>> >>>> >>> ----- Original Message ---- >>>> >>> From: Jan Miller >>>> >>> To: nywestch@rootsweb.com >>>> >>> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 6:03:46 PM >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Out here in Burlingame, last month school officials were delighted >>>> >>> to >>>> >>> discover $100,000. "extra" in the school budget to be able to >>> continue >>>> >>> "Immersion" classes in Spanish for KINDERGARTN AND 1ST GRADES! >>>> >>> Two pages later there was an article about needing a Bond issue for >>>> >>> needed >>>> >>> items in the 2007-2008 year. >>>> >>> Figure THAT one out! >>>> >>> >>>> >>> "Both sides of mouth talking" >>>> >>> >>>> >>> There were a lot of Italian immigrants whose kids came to my >>>> >>> school. >>>> >>> They >>>> >>> learned rapidly, we gave them help and they could practice by >>>> >>> translating >>>> >>> at >>>> >>> home to mama and papa. Worked really well and pretty fast, too!. >>>> >>> Jan >>>> >>> jgrellim@sbcglobal.net >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> >>> From: "Marilynn Masten" >>>> >>> To: >>>> >>> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 12:26 PM >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> When I started school, in 1926, (yes, they had schools then) many >>>> >>>> of >>> my >>>> >>>> schoolmates could barely speak English in Kindergarten, but by >>>> >>>> first >>>> >>>> grade >>>> >>>> they spoke English as well as we did. How? By playing with us. >>> Yes, >>>> >>>> why >>>> >>>> don't they do that these days. >>>> >>>> Cha d'dhuin doras nach dfhosgail doras >>>> >>>> When one door closes another door opens >>>> >>>> Marilynn >>>> >>>> IBSSG >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> >>>> From: >>>> >>>> To: >>>> >>>> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 1:49 PM >>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. >>>> >>>> It has removed 3945 spam emails to date. >>>> >>>> Paying users do not have this message in their emails. >>>> >>>> Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *************************************** >>>> >>>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>>> >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>>> >>>> *************************************** >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> >>>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> >>>> the >>>> >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>>> >>> *************************************** >>>> >>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>>> >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>>> >>> *************************************** >>>> >>> ------------------------------- >>>> >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> >>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> >>> the >>>> >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> *************************************** >>>> >>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>>> >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>>> >>> *************************************** >>>> >>> ------------------------------- >>>> >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> >>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> >>> the >>>> >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >> >>>> >> *************************************** >>>> >> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>>> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>>> >> *************************************** >>>> >> ------------------------------- >>>> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> >> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> >> the >>>> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Searching: FORSHAY (Forshee, Foshay) (NY,NJ,OH,WI,MI,France,Canada)- >>>> >> WILD, >>>> >> DREXLER,FLEISCHMAN(N) (WI,Austria) - BIERSCHENK, NELSON (Nilsson) >>>> >> (MN,NY,Sweden,Varberg). >>>> >> >>>> >> --------------------------------- >>>> >> Fussy? 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